Pcos diet

[hopeforpinkbaby]

In July I start with the pcos diet and had a question. Is it right that I have to eat meat (chicken) twice a week and fish twice a week? Or am I wrong?

[atomic sagebrush]

No, you can if you want to but you don't have to. Some people prefer to stay fully vegetarian, others find that being a vegetarian ends up with them getting too many carbs and they have small amounts of meat every day. Totally about what works best for you as long as you're getting 50-60 g protein and fat every day.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Thank u atomic for your answer
There are some things I don't fully understand in the piece below. You say pick 1 thing twice a day. Does this mean that I can eat for example whole wheat bread in the afternoon and in the evening as well? Or may this also be bread in the afternoon and whole-wheat pasta in the evening?
5 times a day pick one. 2 chicken nuggets size piece of chicken. But if I can eat this 5 times a day, isn't this too much? How much grams of meat can we have?

Am I correct in saying that with the pcos diet you should not eat carbohydrates together with proteins? So no bread, pasta, potatoes along with meat?
--Eat every day:

1 full fat Brown Cow yogurt (or any full fat yogurt) OR 3/4 c whole milk
1 Taste Nirvana Coconut water (or any coconut water, that one is good tasting while some other brands are ucky)
(this will ensure you get a decent amount of potassium and will help with fat and protein)

--2-3 times a day, pick one :

(You can split them into smaller servings and have more often if you would prefer this. These products are not going to be available in all areas and in that case you just would substitute an equivalent product. The salt limits are only for those who are limiting sodium.)

½ c brown rice
½ c cooked whole wheat pasta
1 slice whole grain bread (NOT wheat bread, must be 100% whole grain)
4 Ry Krisp crackers (unsalted)
8 Hint of Salt Triscuits
16 Hint of Salt Wheat Thins
One graham cracker (this is a treat to be had when you’re craving something sweet and you MUST top with the peanut butter option below.)

2 times a day, pick one:

1-2 cup fruit (if the fruit is chunky and not too sweet like watermelon, you can have more; if it’s kind of dense like blueberries, stick with the smaller amount.
1 baked potato (pick a smallish one)
1 baked yam (smallish one)
Carrot Sticks (you can have quite a few, like 2 carrots’ worth)
1 banana
1 apple or pear (I actually want you to leave the skins on these for extra fiber that will keep your blood sugar in check.)
1 corn on the cob
½ c storebought pasta sauce

5 times a day pick one:

2 egg whites
1 whole egg (best to keep these to a few times per week to prevent getting too much saturated fat)
2 T hummus
½ c beans, lentils, or peas
1 1x1 inch **** of cheese
2 chick. nugget size pieces of chicken (use on top of salad or on taco)
1 oz. turkey (ground or sliced deli meat)
Piece of tofu about the size of a deck of cards
1/8 of a cup of nuts or seed (use to top a salad)
3 large shrimp or scallops (this is an occasional treat – no more than 2x a week)
2 T peanut butter (eat on top of the graham crackers if you are craving something sweet)

(eating that amount of the above foods, plus the protein in the yogurt/whole milk and grains, will ensure you get enough protein)

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Another question, how much folic acid do you recommend? The one I have is folavit 0.4 mg. Is this good?

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Is it ok to use chickpeas to make veggieballs? Or is this swaying blue?

[atomic sagebrush]

You can do any combination you would like. Wheat bread in the afternoon and evening, OR bread and then pasta. Both are fine.

No, it is not too much meat. It translates into about 50-60 g. Sometimes you may be a little higher (if you had all meat that day) but other times you would have chicken only once and then other stuff the rest of the time (which is typically lower protein.) It all evens out over time. That diet is for people who just can't manage to count stuff, and so if you would prefer to be counting at the same time to ensure you don't exceed the LE Diet limits of 50-60 g protein and fat, 1500-1800 cals a day, please do so. You can both use that diet as a guideline AND count still, it's just that I wrote it very generally to also help the people who refuse to count.

50-60 g protein and fat. I can't translate that into "how much meat" for you because different meat has different amounts of protein and fat per serving.

You can have protein and carbs together. That is fine to mix them at meals. It is only blue swayers who need to worry about mixing protein and carbs (they always have to!) Pink swayers can eat protein alone or carbs alone or protein and carbs together.

I recommend 1200-1600 mcg daily so take that kind of FA 3 or 4 times, spread out over the day.

You can absolutely have chickpeas within limits to make veggie balls.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Thank u so much for your answer! Your so helpfull
What is the reason that you
recommend a dose that is 3 times higher than recommended for taking folic acid? Is this because this sways pink? Isn't it dangerous to take more than recommended?

And about the carbs, how much a day is allowed on the PCOS diet?

You can do any combination you would like. Wheat bread in the afternoon and evening, OR bread and then pasta. Both are fine.

No, it is not too much meat. It translates into about 50-60 g. Sometimes you may be a little higher (if you had all meat that day) but other times you would have chicken only once and then other stuff the rest of the time (which is typically lower protein.) It all evens out over time. That diet is for people who just can't manage to count stuff, and so if you would prefer to be counting at the same time to ensure you don't exceed the LE Diet limits of 50-60 g protein and fat, 1500-1800 cals a day, please do so. You can both use that diet as a guideline AND count still, it's just that I wrote it very generally to also help the people who refuse to count.

50-60 g protein and fat. I can't translate that into "how much meat" for you because different meat has different amounts of protein and fat per serving.

You can have protein and carbs together. That is fine to mix them at meals. It is only blue swayers who need to worry about mixing protein and carbs (they always have to!) Pink swayers can eat protein alone or carbs alone or protein and carbs together.

I recommend 1200-1600 mcg daily so take that kind of FA 3 or 4 times, spread out over the day.

You can absolutely have chickpeas within limits to make veggie balls.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, it is not because it sways pink. It is because many sources (and many prenatals) recommend more like 800-1000 mcg (I myself conceived a baby with mild spina bifida even though I was taking 800 mcg folic acid and eating a very healthy diet at the time) and we are eating a less nutritious diet, plus some people take supplements that may deplete folic acid while swaying, so I like you guys to take a bit extra than the norm. That level of intake is safe, any excess comes out in the urine. Many of us have to take 4000-5000 mcg if we have had a history of a baby with neural tube defects (I did this with my 4th and 5th pregnancy) so really 1200-1600 is actually quite a lot less than that. Take it all thru the entire first trimester of pregnancy and then wean back to the amount in the prenatal, don't take it all through pregnancy and that is fine.

Don't count carbs. Count calories, protein, and fat, and the carbs will take care of themselves. Carbs are much more complicated to count and it's not necessary at all to count them if youre counting the other stuff.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Is soy sauce allowed in the PCOS diet?
Sorry for al those questions, its just that i want to now everything before i start the diet. I don't want to be busy with what is allowed or not during the diet. I'm also not going to count everything because otherwise I'm going to be a control freak. I think that's why I had a failed sway. I hope this time I will have my desired daughter that I have been dreaming about for so long

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes you can have soy sauce unless you're trying to limit sodium. We have basically given up limiting sodium and our results are higher than ever, but some people still want to limit it. Your call to make.

No worries about the questions! That's what I'm here for!

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Thanks a lot Atomic your very kind.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Is it ok to use things like tomato paste, passata ect? Tomato paste has a lot of sugar and a don’t now if its allowed te the Pcos diet.

And another question, what about alcohol in the 2ww? Do we still continue that?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's fine. I am talking about sugary foods like candy and cookies, not sugar that is added to savory foods.

It's up to you. Most people give up alcohol at ovulation and I'm fine with that. A few people continue till BFP. The safest way is to stop at O.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Is garlic ok to eat regulary? I throught it was something to avoid but i am not shure

[atomic sagebrush]

Technically garlic is said by some to raise testosterone so the old school sway diets had people avoid it, and I figured since it's possible to avoid, hey, why not. But I do not think it actually sways at all. You would have to eat a LOT of garlic or take supplements plus eat a very blue friendly diet for garlic to raise testosterone, and higher testosterone has never been proven to sway anyway (this is much much less proven than people claim) and garlic is eaten by so many people around the world that there is little chance it could actually sway blue at all since otherwise we'd be swimming in boys!

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Coconutmilk, the ones in a can used for cooking is it allowed when swaying pink on the PCOS diet?

[atomic sagebrush]

Within the limits, yes

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Within the limits, yes

Thank u!

[JennaG]

Can I ask, on the topic of PCOS.Is it possible to still do the PCOS version even if you don’t have it?

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Can I ask, on the topic of PCOS.Is it possible to still do the PCOS version even if you don’t have it?

Yes u can! I follow the pcos diet and don’t have PCOS.

[atomic sagebrush]

Can I ask, on the topic of PCOS.Is it possible to still do the PCOS version even if you don’t have it?

Yes, absolutely. I would honestly be recommending it for eveyrone since it's gotten such good results, but a lot of people will lose too much weight on the alternate diet, and others find it impossible to stick to and give up. But anyone can do the PCOS/alternate style of diet and it's great if you can manage

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Atomic what is your thought about meat replacers when swaying pink on pcos diet?

[atomic sagebrush]

They're fine within limits, just watch the carbiness of them. If you have moderate to severe PCOS you may need to be careful not to over do it.

[JennaG]

Thanks atomic :) I will track my carbs again and try and reduce where I can s I feel that my carbs could be a little high. Should I start back on vitex again to see if it helps my cycle

[hopeforpinkbaby]

They're fine within limits, just watch the carbiness of them. If you have moderate to severe PCOS you may need to be careful not to over do it.

Ok, thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks atomic :) I will track my carbs again and try and reduce where I can s I feel that my carbs could be a little high. Should I start back on vitex again to see if it helps my cycle

I do not recommend vitex except in rare instances. I prefer to see your cycles regulated with diet and exercise, as vitex often makes cycle irregularities much worse.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Yesterday I had my appointment with my fertility doctor and lied about my cycle and said they are quite long and irregular to get clomid. She thinks I'm not going to need it and I have to wait for the blood test and hysteroscopy first. she did a vaginal ultrasound and saw a cyst in the scar from my cesarean section. I don't know what this could mean? Could it be endometriosis because I was diagnosed with this a few years ago? I was a little disappointed that I probably won't get clomid. I had hoped to increase my chances of a girl with this. What should I do now? Is there anything that can replace clomid without the need for a doctor's prescription?

[atomic sagebrush]

You should def. go ahead with the hysteroscopy. This most likely is nothing to worry over but they do need to check to make sure its not a fibroid or anything that could cause trouble.

You can sway in other ways and still get a girl. The Clomid adds only 3-5%, it's no magic bullet. They do sell the soy isoflavones but I don't they work very well nor do i think anyone with endo should take them.

Another option some have pursued is ordering online.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

I really hope it’s going to be ok! I will give an update when it’s done.
Do you know which sites are reliable to get clomid? I just don’t now if I order it online that it’s actually going to be clomid and not something else.

[atomic sagebrush]

I can't recommend sites. I don't have time to investigate things like that nor would I want to take on the legal liability. But as far as I know there are tons of legit sites and people have gotten Clomid and only Clomid and not anything else.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

I can't recommend sites. I don't have time to investigate things like that nor would I want to take on the legal liability. But as far as I know there are tons of legit sites and people have gotten Clomid and only Clomid and not anything else.
Oh ok you’re right, I understand. I’m going to search on the internet and order it online. Thank u Atomic

[hopeforpinkbaby]

Within 4 weeks I can make the first attempt via iui with donor sperm. I just really started pcos diet 5 to 6 weeks ago. So at the time of the attempt I did the diet for 9 to 10 weeks. Although I have made adjustments in the diet for longer, such as less sugar, occasionally chicken, whole grain products, healthy food. I still regularly had a cheat such as chips or fries, .. 1 or 2 times a week. the last 4 weeks I have only cheated 3 times. Now I would like to rode my bike for an hour a day. Would this still have enough effect if I have my first attempt within 4 weeks? I also started Myoinositol again. I Will also have a glass of wine with dinner several times a week. Do you think this is a good girl sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

It's really up to you - if you'll live 1000 lifetimes if you try and get an opposite, obviously it's better to wait, but try to keep in mind that for all we know, this is a good month for you to conceive a girl, and future months would be worse. We just don't know, and swaying is like an iceberg, the stuff we see is much smaller than the stuff we don't.

You are doing tons of great stuff for TTC a girl! Good luck and pink dust!

[hopeforpinkbaby]

I also wanted to let you know that my fertility doctor did not want to prescribe me clomid. I was a bit disappointed because this also swayed pink.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sorry to hear that, but don't be too disappointed, we still get good results even without the Clomid. I got my girl without Clomid!

[hopeforpinkbaby]

I'm sorry to hear that, but don't be too disappointed, we still get good results even without the Clomid. I got my girl without Clomid!

That gives me hope that even whitout clomid i can have a girl. But i just keep in mind that its going to be a boy so i won’t be dissapointed.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

It's really up to you - if you'll live 1000 lifetimes if you try and get an opposite, obviously it's better to wait, but try to keep in mind that for all we know, this is a good month for you to conceive a girl, and future months would be worse. We just don't know, and swaying is like an iceberg, the stuff we see is much smaller than the stuff we don't.

You are doing tons of great stuff for TTC a girl! Good luck and pink dust!

Thank u for sending pink dust! I’m just going for it, i did the best i could. Stressing about it won’t help my sway.

[hopeforpinkbaby]

I really messed up my diet. Since the holidays, I eat sweets way too regularly. during the day I stick to the diet, but in the eventing I can't resist snacking. If everything goes as it is, I will have my 3rd attempt on Sunday. I am sure it will be a boy again and actually I am at peace with that. I can still try so hard and end up with a boy. Now I just let nature take its course and if it is a boy again it just had to be.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok. It's not too late to regroup on diet though if you don't end up pregnant this month. Good luck!