Boy supplements check

[Nora Aaron]

Hi Atomic,

I want to ttc (a boy) in November 2020.

Currently I am taking daily:
Vitamin D 1000
Folic Acid 2000 (prenatal included)
Prenatal vitamin
Probiotics

As for the prenatal multivitamin, here is its contents:
Vitamin A 400ug
D3 Vitamin 10ug
E Vitamin 10mg
K1 Vitamin 65 ug
C Vitamin 85 mg
B1 Vitamin 1.5 mg
B2 Vitamin 1.6 mg
B3 vitamin 17 mg
B6 vitamin 1.4 mg
B9 vitamin 500 ug
B12 vitamin 2ug
B7 vitamin 30 ug
B5 vitamin 5 mg
calcium 160 mg
magnesium 75 mg
iron 14 mg
Zinc 9 mg
Copper 1000 ug
Manganese 1.8 mg
selenium 60 ug
chromium 25 ug
molybdenum 45 ug
iodine 175 ug


P.S. I am breastfeeding a 6 months old as well.


Is there anything I should add to that list (supplements wise)?
And do I have to take Omega 3 500 daily as well?

Thank you so much in advance!

[Nora Aaron]

My husband is taking:

Magnesium 200 mg
Calcium 100 mg

Multivitamin with the following contents:

Vitamin A 500 ug
thiamine (B1) 1 1mg
Riboflavin (B2) 1.4mg
Vitamin B6 1.4 mg
Niacin (B3) 16 mg
pantothenic acid (B5) 6 mg
Vitamin C 80 mg
Vitamin D 25 ug
Vitamin E 12 mg
Vitamin B 12 10 ug
Calcium 240 mg
Zinc 10 mg
selenium 55 ug
Iron 14 mg
Iodine 150 ug

Is there anything he should add?


P.S. we live in Sweden, so I translated the above from Swedish to English. Feel free to ask me if there is something that doesn't make sense!

[atomic sagebrush]

Those look great to me! I do generally recommend a DHA or Omega 3 supplement but if you're eating fish 2x a week and a fair amount of red meat if you don't want to take it you can get by without it, as long as you're not eating a lot of vegetable oil.

I would add in probiotics for your husband and 500 mg arginine, 1000 mg carnitine if he will take it. He can also take the Omega 3 supplements if you get them.

[Nora Aaron]

Thank you so much Atomic!

Do I add 500 mg arginine, 1000 mg carnitine for me too? Or just for my husband?

[atomic sagebrush]

No just for your husband on those two. Women should avoid them

[Nora Aaron]

Ok, thank you!

Another question please if you don't mind, the only Omega 3 I found here where I live is a vegetarian brand which I would like to run through you to make sure it is safe for me to take while ttc a boy.

It says:
About the product:
Heart Omega 3 Vegan contains natural omega-3 fatty acids from algae, including EPA and DHA. EPA and DHA contribute to the normal functioning of the heart, DHA also contributes to maintaining normal brain function and vision. The beneficial effect is achieved with a daily intake of at least 250 mg of EPA and DHA. Vegan does not contain iodine and can also be taken by breastfeeding and for pregnant women.

Table of Contents:
Algae oil (Schizochytrium sp.), Modified corn starch,
glycerol, sunflower oil, gelling agent (carrageenan),
extract rich in vitamin E, ascorbyl palmitate, rosemary extract,
sodium carbonate.

Content per 1 capsule
Algae oil: 500mg
Of which
Omega-3: 250mg
Of which:
EPA: 83.3mg
DHA: 166.6mg


Recommended Dosage:
1-2 capsules daily in connection with a meal, swallowed whole with liquid

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's just fine!!!!

[Nora Aaron]

Hello Atomic

I know it has been a long time, but here I am again ready to pick up where we left :D I have couple questions if you would kindly help me with them...

1. What is the dosage that my husband and I should be taking daily of Omega 3? The one we use contains 1000 mg in one capsule, of which omega 3 640 mg, EPA 320 mg, DHA 230 mg . Do we take one or two per day? And should it be every other day or every day?

P.S. he wouldn't take the probiotics or arginine or carnitine

2. Does my husband need to take Vitamin D? If yes, what is the dosage for him? What he is taking now all in all is

Magnesium 400 mg
Calcium 200 mg
Multivitamin for men
Omega 3 1000 mg

What I am taking is
Prenatal vitamin
Folic acid 2000 (prenatal included)
vitamin D 1000
Omega 3 1000 mg

Thank you so much for all the help and support

[atomic sagebrush]

I prefer you stick to 500 mg. So if you have one that is 1000 you can take that every other day.

Is there vitamin D in his multi?

You can take probiotics too if you're willing. just not arginine and carnitine for ladies.

[Nora Aaron]

1. Yes, his multivitamin has 10 µg of Vitamin D. Is that enough for him?

2. The probiotics for me, also every other day like the Omega 3, or daily?

3. He will take probiotics too, so does he take that daily or every other day?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's a good amount (and he can continue with the additional he's taking)

Probiotics daily for both of you.

[Nora Aaron]

Hi Atomic,

I live in Sweden, couldn't get my hand on one of the Probiotics brands that I have seen here on the forum, but I got this one https://www.apoteksgruppen.se/produkter/apoteksgruppen-mjolksyrabakterier-kapslar-80-st?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqKuKBhCxARIsACf4XuFuF1gcEgj1gSUbb UAyCaQPj_VTyiCeivF6aPLVAx-MgR4ERP4IeXsaArDbEALw_wcB which translates to "Lactic Acid Bacteria". Is this the same thing?

We have started our 6 weeks yesterday. We are planning TTC a boy in November.

DH takes

Multivitamin for men
Magnesium 250 mg
Omega 3 1000 mg (so he takes one every other day)
The Lactic Acid Bacteria I mentioned above

My question is should he add Calcium too? His multivitamin already includes 200 mg Calcium. Is this enough?

I am taking
Prenatal vitamin
Vitamin D 1000
Folic Acid 2000 (including the 500 in the prenatal vitamin)
Omega 3 1000mg (I take one every other day)
Lactic Acid Bacteria mentioned above

Should I add CoQ10? or the above is enough?

Thank you so much for all the help.

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't recommend brands anyway, for this very reason. Too many different kinds all around the world. Yes, that one is great! Perfect.

What multivitamins are you guys on? The reason I ask is that some vitamins have megadoses and herbs added that are not good for blue, so I could double check that if you'd like.

The coq10 is up to you. I think it's by far the least important supplement for blue swayers to take, and I don't think anyone ~really~ needs it, but it doesn't hurt as long as you're eating a good HE Diet (if you are skipping a lot of meals, skip the coq10 as well) and may help egg quality. Your call to make.

[Nora Aaron]

Thank you so much!

I take this prenatal multivitamin
https://www.apoteksgruppen.se/produkter/apoteksgruppen-multivitamin-gravid-100-st?gclid=CjwKCAjwy7CKBhBMEiwA0Eb7auhi7Kx5nhrvyypNG IzYkBkqNjpDvHKqtYHz3FyQTTh6yWhx1GZmzRoCkTsQAvD_BwE


My husband takes this one
https://www.apoteksgruppen.se/produkter/apoteksgruppen-multi-man-100-st?gclid=CjwKCAjwy7CKBhBMEiwA0Eb7anXGtKfvIVwWUP3Bh EnIjRqro30vp_9BgumdHs-UKPUFXt0DuNfhFBoC0oYQAvD_BwE


It wouldn't let me copy the table of contents properly, you can find the table of contents on the right side in the above links, if you click the dark pink "Läs mer" which means "read more".

1. Does my husband have enough calcium in his multivitamin? Or does he need more?

2. My vitamin D has 20µg per tablet so I take 5 tablets per day as follows: I take 2 tablets with breakfast, 1 with lunch, and 2 with dinner (to add up to 100µg - Is that equal to 1000 IU? Or am I calculating it wrong? And is it better to take all the Vitamin D pills at once or scatter them across the day like im doing?

3. i want to have breakfast cereal for breakfast as you have advised that it is sways blue, but I am not sure I understand which cereal exactly since the variety they have is soooo much! Is it the regular corn flakes cereal? Or Granola cereal? Or those fruit loops cereal? Could you please tell me examples so I can find an equivalent for it here in Sweden?

Thank you so so much

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh those are great! Perfect on the vitamins.

25 mcg (that is the same as the ug symbol) is 1000 IU. It shouldn't hurt that you've taken extra (particularly because you're from Sweden and may be low in D) but I would cut back to no more than one a day, because your multi also has vitamin D in it. You don't need to wean back on Vitamin D, because it's stored in the fat and it will stay in your system longer. Also you don't need to time Vitamin D across the day for the same reason - it's well stored by the body.

ANY cereal as long as it is vitamin fortified. Or even if it's not, as long as it's a healthy choice with full fat dairy milk on top. (so please no corn flakes or fruit loops!) Granola, muesli, that type of healthier cereal is great. I'm not sure if you have vitamin fortified cereals there but if you don't, it's still a good option for blue as there is protein + fat and healthy whole grains, often some nuts and dried fruit as well in muesli.

[Nora Aaron]

Noted, thank you so much Atomic you have been such a great support and help

[Nora Aaron]

Dear Atomic,

What is your opinion about Progessence Plus Serum to help in ovulation and getting pregnant? I received a bottle as a gift from a friend who swears it helped her get pregnant after watching a couple on YouTube (Lauren and Arie from The Bachelor) explain how this might have helped them get pregnant with their twins. You basically just rub it twice a day on your belly and it is made with natural, bioidentical progesterone from wild yam (https://www.youngliving.com/us/en/product/progessence-plus-serum). I am inclined to use it as I am dreaming of having twins, and if there is any chance that this Serum might help me produce two eggs, I will use it if it wouldn't harm my blue sway.

The priority to me is to add at least one more BOY to our family (so B/B twins or B/G twins, or only one boy, would be great).

But if using it will risk me having a boy then I won't use it.

Could using Progessence Plus Serum harm my blue sway in any way?

[atomic sagebrush]

I do not recommend it at all. Using progesterone at the wrong time of the cycle can actually delay or even stop ovulation for some people, progesterone is said by many people to sway pink (in fact many women use progesterone cream as a pink sway tactic, though I don't like people doing this either) and that particular product also had essential oils in it that we are pretty sure sway pink. Plus, taking things like that and then stopping them at conception (which you absolutely MUST DO because some of the oils in there have been linked to miscarriage may even upset the delicate hormonal balance that sustains pregnancy. It's a no from me, sorry.

[Nora Aaron]

Hi Atomic,

I hope you are your loved ones are safe and well. I am about to enter into my two weeks wait, and I was wondering what supplements I should keep taking till BFP? For a recap, the supplements I’m taking are

Multivitamin for pregnant women
Probiotics
Omega 3 1000 mg (every other day)
Folic acid 2000 mcg (including the dose in the prenatal)
Vitamin D 1000 IU (which is 25 UG)

If you say that I continue with all of them after our DTD attempts are done, do I continue till BFP or throughout the whole first trimester?

My second question is, I’ve been getting some headaches and sore throat every now and then, is it ok if I take paracetamol 500 mg just once if the headache gets too strong? or it’s gonna mess my sway up? I don’t usually take paracetamol and if I do end up taking it it would be once in a very long time, but I can also avoid it if it will mess things up

Thank you so much

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so very much! Fortunately we are all safe and well. Though my two adult sons who live in the city did have Covid, they both came through it ok. I hope you and yours are healthy and safe too!

I want you to take all those supplements continuously. No need to come off of any of them at ovulation OR at BFP. They are healthy in pregnancy. At the end of the first trimester, you should wean off the extra folic acid down to just the amount of the prenatal. Everything else is safe and beneficial to continue all thru pregnancy. If you do decide to come off them - say, you don't want to continue the Omega 3 or whatever (though it's good for babies!) just be sure to wean off.

Yes you can take paracetemol just once now and then. I don't think it truly messes up anyone's sway taken once in a while like that.

[Nora Aaron]

Hi dear Atomic,

I decided to add CoQ 10 to my supplements which are (multivitamin, probiotics, omega3, folic acid, and vitamin D - all with your recommended doses). I found this CoQ10 it also has vitamin C (25 mg) and vitamin B2 (riboflavin 1.4 mg) as well as 100 mg of coenzyme Q10. Here is the link for it if you would like to take a look
https://www.apotea.se/elexir-coenzyme-q10-100-mg-60-kapslar

Is that one ok? And should my husband add it to his supplements too?
(DH currently takes magnesium, multivitamin for men, omega 3, probiotics, l’arginine, and sometimes Carnitine but not regularly like the other supplements)

He also takes hair supplements that contain:
420 mg silica (196 mg silica), zinc 5 mg (50% DRI), manganese 2 mg (100% DRI), selenium 55 (g (100% DRI), biotin 37.5 (g (75% DRI).


Does he add CoQ10?

And if he is has to choose between Larginine and Carnitine which would you recommend he sticks to?

Thank you in advance for all your help

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, that coq10 is ok.

If hubby wants coq10 can be good for him as well.

Arginine and carnitine work together. I don't have the data to say which is better on their own.

[Nora Aaron]

Still no luck, AF showed up. But also yesterday I stopped breastfeeding my 2 year old son completely. I don’t know if it will up my chances now that I stopped breastfeeding (I was ovulating normally as far as I know because I’d always get the smiley face on clear blue opk).

I really hope for twins. Twin boys or Boy/Girl Twins. I heard this supplement helps with ovulation and it is over the counter one not like Clomid that needs prescription. Here it is
https://www.graviditetskollen.nu/produkter/kosttillskott-for-dig-som-vill-bli-gravid/halsokost/kvinnors-support-for-agglossning-sasmar-conceive-plus?twsCurrency=SEK&gclid=CjwKCAiAgbiQBhAHEiwAuQ6Bkq5Whsv4X6O4UH5e6r2W ETH-DHyVKRP5aQcokcSSPWw7uZA6uDaMWxoCWn8QAvD_BwE

Do you think it is ok that I take this one?

And if you don’t like it, is there any supplement you recommend over the counter one that can help with producing more than one egg?

[atomic sagebrush]

That supplement sways strongly pink and doesn't make twins anyway. Anyone who says it does is saying that only because the people who take it have PCOS, and PCOS leads to more twins being conceived. Plus, if you take that when you don't need to, it can delay or even stop ovulation.

In fact, NONE of the over the counter supplements work for "swaying twin" in any reliable way and most of them have risks and side effects that make them worse than nothing. Sometimes people have twins, but I have seen probably a thousand people taking things to have twins and they don't work.

Many people have asked me to make a "sway twin" plan but when I went and did research into all these various things, none of them worked reliably. I don't want to take money for something I don't believe in so I didn't make that plan.

The only thing that works for making more twins is Clomid or Femara (or stronger drugs than that, which are injectible). Otherwise, these things just don't work in any appreciable way.