Newbie here ttc boy in September

[dollbear]

Hi everyone, I recently discovered this website/forum.

I am ttc a boy in September after positive opk. I'm expected to ovulate at the beginning of September. I want to give myself the best chance at conceiving a boy. I already have an 8 year old little girl. I am 33 years old and husband is 35.

Here are some things I've been doing to prepare:
I've been taking a prenatal multi vitamin

Prenatal dha fish oil

Exercising 4-5 times a week, I do hiit / treadmill running/jogging

I've also been trying to lose some weight because I am overweight. I've lost about 8 lbs but can't seem to lose more. I don't want to have gestational diabetes during pregnancy. This is why I've been trying to lose weight.

I am on thyroid medication for hypothyroidism. 50mcg a everyday. My thyroid is under control.

I drink occasionally, just about 1 glass of wine here and there. Not every week either.

For my diet, I've been doing intermittent fasting, but no results really. But before I try to conceive baby boy, I will start eating breakfast, most likely cereal or eggs, toast, fruits, things of that sort. Also will be eating bananas everyday.

Lunch is typically left overs of the previous nights dinner. Usually some type of protein, vegetable and carb.

Dinner would be about the same.

Now about husband:
He drinks often, almost everyday. We are quarantining, so nothing much else to do. But it's usually one drink or two. Nothing major.

He doesn't smoke. He's very healthy. Works out almost everyday, some days are more strenuous, we do hiit exercises together.

He takes a cinnamon vitamin sometimes, but not always.

We try to dtd once a week or more but our daughter doesn't allow us to.

Based on what I've mentioned, what do I need to change for us to conceive a boy in September? How often should we dtd? Does husband need to release more often? How often? How to increase our chances of conceiving a boy?

Thank you in advance!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome!! Glad you found us!

What multivitamin are you taking and what is the dose on the fish oil?

Losing large mounts of weight is probably not going to be best for your sway anyway (and can be tough with thyroid issues). Keep going with the exercise and try to hold steady on weight - you will end up growing muscle and being fitter and healthier (less likely to have gestational diabetes) even at the same weight.

Bananas do NOTHING for blue sways. They're just empty carbs and they don't even have much potassium in them. Please do not "spend" your calories on bananas. find other fruit and veg that has lots of potassium in addition to other healthy nutrients that will help your blue sway.

Toast is ok at times but is quite carby. I would try, whenever possible, to always be choosing the options that are the most nutrient dense. That way you won't be gaining weight on things like bananas and bread which really don't help your sway that much!

A drink or two from hubby daily is ok.

I would have him avoid cinnamon as we don't know how it sways for hubbies (and it sways pink when women take it!)

We need to have your husband start releasing on his own or with you, with some type of non-spermicide protection, every 2-4 days. This will ensure he has a lot of healthy sperm. and that helps your blue sway.

Do you want to include timing or are you ok skipping that (it doesn't work!)

[dollbear]

Thank you for replying!! I'm taking Nordic naturals prenatal dha, which has 830mg total of dha and Emerald labs prenatal it has 864 mcg of folic acid or 216% of daily dose of Folate. It's a great all natural prenatal vitamin that agrees with me and gentle on my stomach unlike others I've tried.

I do whole wheat toast, not white toast.

Husband and I have been trying to dtd more often lately for him to release more often.

So timing doesn't work? That's what I was planning to go on. What do you suggest? I've been tracking ovulation as well using opk. So should we dtd 12 hrs after peak, next morning and that same night? Do I have the big O?

Again, thanks for helping!

[atomic sagebrush]

that is too much DHA, I'd have you take that every other day. Too much DHA has caused side effects and may even be swaying pink by lowering cholesterol.

it is your call to make of course but I cannot recommend the Emerald Labs prenatal. It has sky high doses of nutrients which simply is not safe and may even sway pink by messing up your hormones, not to mention lots of additional ingredients some of which we believe sway pink, others we are not sure how they sway or if they're even safe.

Even if it's wheat toast it can be quite carby. it's ok to have it, my concern is more that you already do have some extra weight it's going to be calories that really aren't super nutritionally dense and may contribute to weight gain (since it's easy to gain weight on a blue diet anyway)

Timing doesn't work, but as long as you have at least 3 attempts in the fertile window I'm ok with you guys using it. Night of positive OPK, the next morning and following night (2x on that second day), then one more day after, then every other day for a couple go rounds. That way you're protected against delayed ovulation.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes and Big O if you can, but I know a lot of us can't have that many Big O's in a row. It's ok if you can only do one or two, not one every time

[dollbear]

Oh no! The prenatal isn't good?! I am so sad to hear that cause I've been through about 3 or 4 different prenatals (some expensive and really well known brands too) before finding this one that agrees with me. I started taking 2 dha fish oils a day but I will scale it back to just 1.

I'm just torn about the prenatal now. I don't want to go back to searching for one. Also, I prefer the all natural vitamins as opposed to the synthetic ingredients in some vitamins, its easier for my body to process. It's also just 1 a day instead of 3 or 4 vitamins per day like some brands require.

Would it be ok if I continued it or should I discontinue taking it? What if I took it every other day instead?

[atomic sagebrush]

All I can tell you is that I do not recommend those ones. I can't tell you if it's good for your sway or for your health, just that I have seen lots of negative consequences when people took high doses and herbal components such as really messing up their menstrual cycle and having opposites.

I would LOVE it if people made a natural supplement (and Nature Made is ok, though I'm not sure it's really that "natural") that only had 100% of nutrients and did not have the herbs crammed in there. But most of the natural supplements have tons of crap in them unfortunately.

your call to make, I'm just letting you know my concerns.

Every other day doesn't work because some of that stuff is water soluble. so you'd get lots the one day (and your body would pee most of it out) and then the next day you'd get a massive dose. Daily or not at all with that one.

[dollbear]

Thank you for the advice and reply, I will keep them in mind. Will keep you posted on my sway 🙂

[atomic sagebrush]

Great! Good luck and tons of blue dust headed your way!! Let me know if I can help!

[dollbear]

Hi atomic, I am 14dpo, no af yet. During my 2ww, I've had back ache, sore boobs, headache and cramping almost everyday. On Friday night after using the bathroom, I wiped and there was light pink blood on the toilet paper. It looked like watered down blood. After wiping a couple times, it went away. Today after using the bathroom again, in the toilet was 2 pieces of brown specs of blood, very small pieces. I've taken multiple pregnancy tests, hcg strips and first response tests, all have come back negative. Today I have that feeling as if my period is suppose to come, lots of cramping and just that "feeling" of my period coming soon. I'm not sure why I haven't gotten a BFP yet. Was that implantation bleeding I had or was it the beginning of my period? I really feel as if I am pregnant because of the way I've been feeling everyday. I could really use your help. Thanks!

Edited: so I am experiencing some type of bleeding today with cramps, backache, kinda like how I would feel when I get my period. It's light pink again and not alot, only when I wipe. I'm not sure if it's AF or implantation. ��

[atomic sagebrush]

It sounds like AF to me as 14 DPO would be too late for implantation.

could you have ovulated later than you think?

[dollbear]

I'm thinking af too because it's no longer light. So I'm out for this month. I tracked ovulation using opks. Got my peak on cd14 and we BD the next day at 24, 36 and 48 hrs. I also tracked CM.

I was wondering why I felt that way during the 2ww. I was so sure I was pregnant. I had cramps every day, backaches, and headaches on and off. Breasts were also sore and tender. I don't know how I could've created those symptoms in my head. Any ideas?

I guess I'll try again at ovulation. I'm just super bummed it didn't happen though.

[Walkerbabies]

Hello @dollbear hope you don't mind me following this thread. Just wish to let you know I'll be rooting for you. I hope you get your boy!:bluesperm:

[dollbear]

You're so kind. Thank you! I'll take all thr blue dust I can get! Lol

Will attempt again this month.

[atomic sagebrush]

So you didn't start having attempts till 24 hours after your first peak??

Timing doesn't work. It has been completely debunked and by waiting so long to have an attempt you cut your odds of conception to nothing, and may end up inadvertently swaying pink if you only get one attempt in before the egg shows up.

Progesterone rises in the 2WW and so sometimes you will have very realistic pregnancy-type symptoms that don't amount to anything. i know it's hard to believe but enough of us have experienced that in months we can't possibly be pregnant to indicate that some months, we just have that big rise in progesterone causing the symptoms.

[dollbear]

Yes, 24, 36 and 48 hrs after peak. Now that I think about it, I always have ewcm like 2-3 days before I even get my peak.

I'm already planning for my next attempt. What do you suggest I should do? How many BD and what days? I'm already on a HE diet. I'm eating cereal and increasing my sodium intake. Please and thank you for your help.

[atomic sagebrush]

YES!! most babies ever conceived, boy and girl alike, are conceived from sex 1-2 days before ovulation. That's why you GET that EWCM so soon.

If you want to keep sticking with timing we have a method to do that - have one attempt the night of the first positive OPK, then again the next morning (this should be O Day) and then again that same night (so two in one day on O Day). Then have one more attempt if you can the day after, and every other day for a couple rounds after that. this is in keeping with Shettles timing, but avoids the perils of having your attempts so late and possibly only one attempt.

[dollbear]

Thank you! I think I will try to BD the day before peak day, peak day and O day and possibly again next day. Does this sound good? What should I keep in mind when trying to sway for boy?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's great as long as you're not hung up on timing. The day before peak day would be supposed "pink timing" according to the old school sway tactics (which don't work anyway). That is exactly the type of thing many of us with boys do.

One thing people often forget but is easy to add is trying to get enough sleep. If there's any way to do that, it can really help.

[dollbear]

How likely is it to get a BFP at 10dpo? For my last sway attempt, I kept testing and of course I wasn't pregnant. I kept seeing everyone getting a BFP at 8-10dpo, sometimes even sooner. I wasted many tests for no reason at all. I don't wanna do that again and put myself through the agony again.

[atomic sagebrush]

I prefer you guys wait till 12 DPO. Not only because people don't always get positive pregnancy tests reliably at that stage, but also because sometimes people ovulate a couple days later than they realize, and it just cuts down on heartbreak to not test too soon.

[dollbear]

I will wait for 12dpo. It will be hard but I'll do it. Also, do you think we would increase our chances if we BD 2x in one day? Maybe peak or O day? I don't wanna miss the window again. Would the sperm count be good enough for 2x in one day? Do I need to have O everytime?

[atomic sagebrush]

yes if you can BD 2x in one day, that's great. Either O-1 or O Day or both!

The sperm count doesn't matter if you're on O-1 or O Day because all those sperm can survive to make it to the egg. So you're adding more and more even if the sperm numbers in the individual batches are lower overall.

[atomic sagebrush]

You don't need to have the Big O every time. That is a myth.

[treens]

Good morning! Wishing you all the blue dust! I am 5 dpi. Just waiting also. Love to be your blue buddy if you like, this is my 2nd month trying.

[dollbear]

Good morning! Wishing you all the blue dust! I am 5 dpi. Just waiting also. Love to be your blue buddy if you like, this is my 2nd month trying.

HI blue dust to you! This will also be my 2nd month trying. Are you experiencing any symptoms so far? What are your sway details? I'm just waiting for next weekend, I'm expected to ovulate on the 28th. Patiently waiting and hoping for a BFP. But I must admit, I'm also afraid of not succeeding again.

[dollbear]

yes if you can BD 2x in one day, that's great. Either O-1 or O Day or both!

The sperm count doesn't matter if you're on O-1 or O Day because all those sperm can survive to make it to the egg. So you're adding more and more even if the sperm numbers in the individual batches are lower overall.

Thank you for all your help! Waiting for next expected ovulation day to start trying again.

[treens]

there were a few of us, 1 pregnant already on this group if you want to read it :) My info is there too!

https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/announcements/80849-anyone-trying-boy-next-month.html

Come over and join us!

[dollbear]

Hi atomic, I have a question. When bding before ovulation, should we use protection? Or is it OK without protection and having a release for husband? I'm on cd6 of my cycle, was wondering what to do if we BD tonight. Ovulation is expected next weekend.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi atomic, I have a question. When bding before ovulation, should we use protection? Or is it OK without protection and having a release for husband? I'm on cd6 of my cycle, was wondering what to do if we BD tonight. Ovulation is expected next weekend.

If you want timing, you'd use non-spermicide protection. if you don't care about timing, there is likely some benefit to NOT using protection and being exposed to the hormones in the semen. But you can't do that if you're super worried about timing.

[dollbear]

Did I ruin my sway by bding?? I really hope I didn't!! I use the premom app and it says "low chance of getting pregnant." Is the week before ovulation "pink" territory? really hope I didn't ruin my sway!!

[atomic sagebrush]

No. Timing doesn't sway. It doesn't work at all, and most of us with all boys got our boys BD a LOT during that week. It's just that many people do still want Shettles timing, even though it's been completely debunked.

[dollbear]

Thanks, I thought I messed up by letting hubby release inside. What are the chances of a getting pregnant from that one BD? My period ended 3-4 days ago. I think we'll BD today and tomorrow (for fun) and do pull out then abstain until Friday, cause that's when I'm expected to be most fertile and ovulation will be either the 28th or 29th (sometime around then) and we will BD everyday until October 1st. Does this sound good for a boy sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

If you're a week before ovulation your chances are none.

That having been said, sometimes it is possible to ovulate early, and so you can't use when your period stopped as a guideline (that is what I did with DS 1 and got a boy even though it seemed impossible since I'd just been on my period!) i still think it's a pretty long shot for you though.

What you describe sounds great for blue!!! FXFXFX and blue dust headed your way!

[dollbear]

Thank you for all your wisdom! I will keep you updated.

[dollbear]

Hi again atomic, so bding did not go as planned. I never got a chance to have the big O so far. I ran out of lh tests and the premom app didn't predict my peak yet. I thought it did but it keeps changing up on me. Right now I'm getting high lh results so I know peak is close by. Ovulation day might be today or tomorrow.

I know that sperm can last up to 5 days in the body, and X sperm is slower to reach the egg, so does this mean the X sperm has a better chance of reaching the egg than the Y sperm because they don't die off as quick? We've BD the last 3 days so far 1x a day. I'm concerned that I messed up my sway by not having O's and starting to bding too soon in the fertile window.

[atomic sagebrush]

Just because scientists have retrieved sperm that was alive 5 days after sex, it doesn't mean that sperm could fertilize an egg. Scientists have shown pretty definitively that most babies are actually conceived within a 3 day window of O-2 through O Day, with a smaller minority being conceived on O-3. The chances of sex O-4 is one in 1000, O-5 is one in 10,000, and O-6 is 1 in 100,000.

X sperm is NOT slower. That idea is completely debunked. Over 30 years ago a scientist named Dr. Shettles looked through a microscope and decided that because he saw big and small sperm, they must be X and Y. But he was completely wrong. What he saw were capacitated sperm that were ready to fertilize an egg (these are small and fast and don't live very long), and uncapacitated sperm (they are slow, big, and live a while). It had nothing to do with X and Y sperm, which are about the same size, swim the same speed, and live the same amount of time. All this idea of timing was based on this mistake. It has all been debunked.

Keep having sex. You haven't messed up your sway. Most of us with all boys did exactly as you describe.

[dollbear]

Hi atomic, so I did get a BFP since 8dpo. I've been testing every morning with fmu. Lines have been getting darker and increasing. Today after using the bathroom, I had some light bleeding. I believe today will be 12dpo for me. Test is still positive, breasts are still sore too, could it be implantation bleeding or miscarriage? I don't know what to think. Thanks.

[Successn3]

Just because scientists have retrieved sperm that was alive 5 days after sex, it doesn't mean that sperm could fertilize an egg. Scientists have shown pretty definitively that most babies are actually conceived within a 3 day window of O-2 through O Day, with a smaller minority being conceived on O-3. The chances of sex O-4 is one in 1000, O-5 is one in 10,000, and O-6 is 1 in 100,000.

X sperm is NOT slower. That idea is completely debunked. Over 30 years ago a scientist named Dr. Shettles looked through a microscope and decided that because he saw big and small sperm, they must be X and Y. But he was completely wrong. What he saw were capacitated sperm that were ready to fertilize an egg (these are small and fast and don't live very long), and uncapacitated sperm (they are slow, big, and live a while). It had nothing to do with X and Y sperm, which are about the same size, swim the same speed, and live the same amount of time. All this idea of timing was based on this mistake. It has all been debunked.

Keep having sex. You haven't messed up your sway. Most of us with all boys did exactly as you describe.


Atomic you are a great teacher and guide!!!
May things go very well for you.

I read this thread and more, and the patience with which you give replies is awesome. May God bless you!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh no I only just now saw this, any update?

Bleeding in early pregnancy is super common. Implantation bleeding would generally be earlier on so this may be just some unrelated bleeding. This doesn't mean your pregnancy is ending, though. In many cases of early bleeding, it resolves and you go on to have a healthy pregnancy.

[dollbear]

Hi Atomic, my boy sway worked!! Confirmed today with NIPT! Just thought I would keep you updated. We are still in shock! I am 11weeks and 4 days pregnant.

Thank you so much for all your help throughout the process!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

AAAAA I am SOOO excited for you! Hugest congrats!! Enjoy every moment they go by so quickly!

[Jazmin]

Wow congratulations [emoji7]..


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[dollbear]

Thank you everyone! We are overjoyed 🤗

[Hiral]

Congratulationsss....


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[rahaye_raha]

Congratulations.

How was your bedding? did you start bedding 3 days before you got your peak? so did you end up bedding 6 days in raw?

[dollbear]

Thank you!

[dollbear]

We BD everyday during my fertile week, 2 times on peak day and 2 times on ovulation day.

[rahaye_raha]

Sorry to bother again. But what do you count as fertile week? O-4? or O-5 to O+1?
Did you start bedding before you got peak on OPK?

[dollbear]

We started BDing 5 days before ovulation day.