Uk SMOG Wannabes ~ February

[zanacal]

Oh no deaks, I really hope it doesn't last too long, it's the worst feeling!

Sunset - I've seen a midwife and two doctors in the past 2 weeks and I'm pretty sure they're starting to think I'm a crazy pregnant woman with a vivid imagination - apparently I'm perfectly healthy! I might just go and see the nurse about my cough if it's still here after half-term. I really can't wait for a whole week off work!

[Inglewood]

Must of missed Nini's bfp! CONGRATULATIONS!!

[pinga]

maybebaby3 - hope your BP behaves and settles down... not fun... Oh and I understand what you were saying about wanting to guarantee a girl if you went for another one.

Had a terrible day yesterday - burst into tears so many times. I discovered that this really needs to be my last pregnancy. I think I was holding on to possibly trying again one day. But it turns out that women who have more than 3 pregnancies with my kidney condition are at risk of early kidney failure :( I want to be there for my children and DH so I need to start coming to terms with the fact that my little bump is my last addition to our family. Feel so very sad that I'll never have a girl. I always thought we'd have a girl and its so gutting to realise that it'll never be....

[Inglewood]

Pinga, Sorry to hear ur feeling so low. This pg was always definetly my last, dh told me from the start as he only/we really only ever wanted 2 kids. This little guy ur having will be amazing, he's coming to u for a reason! After ds2 I was devastated to have another boy, but he's been BRILLIANT! Ds1 is a fab wee guy too, quite a serious wee boy, thinks alot, but ds2 has brought so much to our family, fun and utter daftness at times, he is just what my family needs. He's made Dh alot more 'relaxed' (I think) and I'm sure ur little guy when he comes, will be like he too was just made to be in ur lovely family. I can't fully appreciate the finality of things for you, but had these babies been boys, I would of known (because of my ds2) these babies were meant to be here for a reason. Sending u big hugs. xx

[Inglewood]

Crazy woman here!!! :) But has anyone ever experienced a 'clicking' or 'popping' sound from their bumps??? I must hear it about 6 times a day, thought at first it was my poor old back, but googled it and read women being told it's the babies moving! Sometimes I hear it when they move, sometimes when I am at rest (that's why I thought it was my spine creaking). Not concerened, just confused! x

[charlieispy]

Never had it myself but heard a lot of people mention it x not sure what it is though x

pinga x huge hugs i wish i could give you one in real life i hope you have a better day tomorrow x i promise it does get easier x

got my car :) love it :)

Deaks hope you are ok x

good luck kell for tomorrow x babymad hope you have a lovely scan

[indigoviolet]

Hi all, been away for past few days, so much to catch up on!!

Got to be quick, just want to send Maybe lots of positive vibes, hope you feel ok, that your bp behaves and you can keep out of hosp. Great to hear you are signed off, you certainly gave it your best. Take it easy :HH:

kell, good luck with the scan FX

[littlemisswilko]

hiya girls.

nini - big congrats for the bfp heres to a H&H 9 months

inglewood - not sure about the clicking, sure its normal :S

Kell - good luck for the scan tomorrow! what time is it? hope you hear girl! but even so hope everything is good with baby

[Kell]

Thanks girls! Means alot, and if it's not pink I know where I'll be
Coming for support!
I'm getting pretty nervous now, scan is at 13.10, I'm not sure I'll be sleeping much tonight :S

Inglewood I'm not sure myself but I have heard it happens. No idea what the popping is tho lol.

[Petal]

Ah maybe, glad ur ok and at home!! make sure you rest and forget about the out-laws lol.

Good luck for tomorrow kell, hoping you hear pink!!! thinking of you :-)

x

[Wishing4Pink]

Good luck at your scan today Kell, fx for pink.

Congratulations on your bfp nini

Can't wait to hear about your scan Babymad

x

[charlieispy]

Nini - YAY for your BFP

Kell - FX for you and PINK!!

Babymad - Hope the scan goes well and you get some lovely pics, I remember really bonding with ds3 through that scan I hope you find the same thinking of you x x

Hugs to pinga, maybepink too you ladies are on my mind as well x x

wednesday is my scan.......so nervous that something is wrong then nervous about everything else!!

[Inglewood]

Kell, hope u have a lovely scan!!!! FX u hear PINK, have my Pink socks on today for u!! xx

Charlie, will u find out the gender on wed??

Babymad, hope u can post some pic's of ur gorgeous boy! You will love ur scan they are amazing and I'm sure it will help u bond. Is Dh ok about u finding out now? x

Morning to everyone else! Dh has had 'man flu' for 4 days now, he doesn't look well, so I do feel sorry for him and tried to help and be nice....but he's a grumpy sod, taking it out of everyone!! grrrr Betcha I get it next and he has NO sympathy! It's my b'day fri, bet u I get it for then! :( Ds1 has it and he's a still wee Star! MEN! lol DH always boasts how he's never ill!!

[Lavenderlime]

Just wanted to say a massive good luck for today Kell have butterflies for you!! So hoping you hear pink and Stats are in your favour. Even with-out swaying techinacally just under half of us should have girls on this thread.

:)

[Babymad]

Hi girls....

Sorry not been on for awhile, so busy here!!
Missed you all and will be back tonight to catch up on everyone's posts.

Hope everyone is well xx

GL to Kell :)

[maybebabythree]

Hi just got back from our valentines at a local hotel. We stayed over too while my mum had the boys - heaven!!

When I was at hospital on sat there was a ladie there 16 weeks in a very bad state. Dont want to say what was wrong as it doesn't seem right - you have little privacy in hospital. Anyway I have seen a few women this week in a bad way. We are so lucky we get the choice to have kids. I don't thinking will have another baby either ping. Thing is I feel fine but my body just can't cope with being pg. It's all looking very promising right now but your right it's a massive strain on your health. Still I have seen another lady this week with a worse history than me and on her fourth, said she would do it again so never say never. I always say never again then get pg again! I think dh wont agree though. I can always his arm but really that's not fair on him. I was to die he would the one bringing four kids up.

[Lavenderlime]

Glad you had a lovely night away! Maybe.

Charlie your car is amazing love it!

Inglewood sorry to hear the boys in your house are unwell. Good old ds for being a liitle trooper though :) Hope all these Viruses vanish as they are rife everywhere it seems.

[Kell]

Just got back from the scan, it's a little Girl!!! :)
Have a pretty clear picture of the 'burger' I'll try and post it if I can a bit later on

[Waiting4Daisy]

Congrats Kell! Time to change that siggy ;-)

[Lavenderlime]

KELL THAT IS JUST THE BEST NEWS!! MASSIVE CONGRATULATIONS YOU AND DP AND THE BOYS MUST BE OVER THE MOON!!!

Can you tell that i'm a little bit excited!! ;D

[GeCon]

That's great news, Kell. Congrats! What did you buy for your little girl? Did you post your sway in the Sway section?

[deaks66]

Wow kell, congrats!!!! you must be thrilled! did you sway?, i cant remember?!

Hi all, will be one later but about to have serious chat with dh about farmhouse we thinking of buying:) No pg symptoms yet, getting a bit worried :(

[charlieispy]

WOW WOW WOW congratulations Kell - that is awesome x so happy for you bet you cant stop smiling!!

Inglewood - hugs for a) dealing with DH and manflu and poor DS being ill too x men always seem to 'get it worse'

[Sunset]

Kell CONGRATULATIONS!!!! :cheer: that's great news!!! I've only just managed to get online but i have been thinking about you today :) congrats on hearing pink! can't wait to see the u/s pictures :)

[Sunset]

Babymad ~ how did the scan go? did you get some lovely 4d pics? :)

Maybebaby ~ i too met quite a few people in hospital that were in a bad way.. it really made me realise just how lucky i was/am/have been. Wow i can't believe you're 36 weeks already :D really can't wait for your baby news :D

Deaks ~ don't worry hun, it's still early days! soon i'm sure you'll be complaining to us about m/s :p

[Lavenderlime]

I don't think Kell did sway. She got her BFP before swaying but If I remember correctly it was an O+12 ish attempt just once so maybe timing has a little more to do with it than we all think.

Or maybe were all just crazy for believing in swaying in the first place hahaha!

[charlieispy]

Deaks i was 7wks when i really felt pregnant x hope the conversation goes well x

kell defo post your pics please :)

Am getting nervous about weds i think i am going to get the gender written down....not sure if i will read it but feel that if i am i would rather it just be me and dh at home x i can't imagine not seeing a Willy.....i have imagined the feeling of being told girl but that's just a dream i don't think i will be so lucky x getting bad bh already and heartburn must find my support stockings too my legs ache after 2 days at work as there is NO sitting down bar a short break to eat :(

[charlieispy]

Yes i am doubting swaying at the mo our stats are anything to go by its 50/50 still!!

[zanacal]

Aww Kell, that's wonderful news, congratulations!

[maybebabythree]

Congratulations kell!!!! Fantastic news so pleased for you x

ATM my mum is up and shouldn't moan as she had the boys but she hasn't got off the sofa once. She knows I am I'll but still I have hoovered up with no offer of help. What I wouldn't give for some one to come round and look after me. Dh is doing lots but he is exhausted now and the house is a tip. Might say when baby is hear no visitors for a week as we can't keep the house tidy. Everyone will be more than happy to rush round and say the house is a tip, and how lazy I am.

[maybebabythree]

High blood pressure hasn't dampened my love if moaning! I don't think anything makes me complain more about everything than being pg!! Don't get me started on my swollen feet and hands!

[Inglewood]

CONGRATULATIONS KELL!!!!!!!! :cheer: Just home but have thought about u all day!! What's ur dh saying?? Hope u can post a pic!

Lavender, these babies were around 0+16, so u never know!

Maybe, just u take it easy...nevermind anyone but u and ur boys. Somedays my house is a mess, luckily my mum comes along to help, but even when she doesn't I'm past caring!

Charlie, that was our plan with the paper in an envelope. But she couldn't say for sure :( I handed her an envelope with boy/girl and a box next to each. She was really happy to do it, shame she couldn't be sure. Then I would of opened it with dh later that night, or when we felt we wanted to know. I have lovely white stockings too for my varicose veins and phlebitis this pg has brought! Hate them!

[Kell]

Thanks girls, I am still in shock I think! I cried and have continued to cry everytime some one has called to congratulate us lol! Went and brought a few little bits from next, but from the reactions of everyone I don't think I'll be buying much myself! She's going to be spoilt

Here's the pic of the 'bits' http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss103/kell_riley/44019cd7.jpg
And one of her http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss103/kell_riley/31833613.jpg
The pictures aren't great but they are just perfect to me!

Maybe I'm right there with you on the moaning front! I'm Doing my own head in so can't imagine how annoying I am to dp!

I didn't get to sway but lavender is right it was 0+12 and no sex for around 10 days. I had started the le diet to some degree, much less protein far more carbs etc and lost a couple of lbs before so maybe that was a factor as my diet was very very protein rich before. Or it's could have just been luck, who knows.

[Kell]

Inglewood dp is over the moon! He wanted a girl as much if not more than me! God help her when she's older, her daddy knows literally the whole of our town and finds out anything and everything! Between him and three older brothers she won't have a chance! Bet she won't be let out the house till around 30 lol

[Wishing4Pink]

Only just got in and rushed straight on here to find out how your scan went kell. Huge congratulations on your little girl, what fab news!

x

[Babymad]

hiya girls! just to let you know the3 scan went well. baby is fine and was moving around loads!

took the lady ages to be able to measure the fluid behind the neck as it wouldnt stay still. she then stopped and told me to thrust my bum up and down as this can move the baby upwards. so embarressing. didnt see nub at all as bubs wouldnt stay still so didnt get a good look. will post a pic when i can!



Told ds1 yesturday and he's so excited. first thing he said this morning was has the baby grown more and is it kicking bless him and how many sleeps till baby is here.

Really pleased your scan went well Hun xx

[littlemisswilko]

Congratualtions kell you must be over the moon!!!!! :)

[deaks66]

Kell/lavender, i have always believed in timing.... the main idea of the diet is to reduce ewcm and lower ph and that is what happens naturally at o+12. And thats why im convinced i've got a boy in here....absolutely crap timing!!! Congrats again hun!!
Sorry for the lack of personals, will catch up properly tomorrow!
When did you ladies start feeling sicky?

[Babymad]

HI all!

Been AWOL for a few days, felt rotten and lightheaded yest and today and just rubbish! Dh and ds1 have the cold/man flu...so guessing that's what's coming my way!! :(

My scan was great, no pics sadly as the sonographer that havs done the past 3 scans says the hosp policy is no pics after 20wks!! Crap! I got a pic at 22wks, she just obviously doesn't want to waste money. Dh managed to come and it was nice, she is a nice sonographer despite the pic issue and always spends alot of time showing us stuff and explaining what things are etc.... she always asks us if we want know what their gender is? or if we know? she checks as she must forget she tells us each week...NO complaints here! Got good sized babies too.... Twin 1 is 2lbs 10oz and twin 2 is 2lbs 11oz!!! ds2 calls then cheeky (kicks me constantly) and chunky (bigger twin) Still 8wks to go! to get my section date on 21st feb!!

Charlie, I got SYTRON!! saw the registrar after my scan at the clinic and told her how painful my oesphageal spasms are on iron tabs and she gave me a script for sytron. 'touch wood' so far better!! not 100% better, but better! Was going to ask her about it when she mentioned it to me! Try not worry about the urine test, I don't think they are all that accurate, my urinary Ph barely changes pg or not! Will u find out the gender at ut 20wk scan?

Deaks, still so chuffed for u!!

Z, sorry to hear ur poorly!! Is it a cold? or pg related?

Maybe, hope that's u off work now? take it easy mama, not long!!

Lavender, hope ur Gp gets to the bottom of why ur often unwell! Know it's winter, but to be ill as often!! and gets to the bottom of ur long cycle, prob due to being ill so often!

Babymad, hope ur ok and had a nice b'day? Loved the pic of u and the boys at F&B! gorg boys, ur 2 youngest are so alike!!

Past 2 days other than feeling tired have been filled with a broken washing machine....fixed today!! Yipee and a filling at the dentist :( Not much else. MY SIL gave dh a boot full of baby toys, clothes etc... and my SIL's bf gave me tons of nappies and bits and bobs she didn't use up, so feel so lucky once again that people are being so kind! Have alot of things now.

Sunset, she's ur double! She's doing so well and so cute.

LWM, glad u had a good scan! x

Kell, are u getting excited?

Off to tidy my bedroom, bit of a mess!! pop in later.... sorry if I missed anyone had about 7 pages to catch up on!!! xx

Great to hear your girls are growing well :) I can't imagine having two on my belly ;)
I had a lovely bday thanks :) Most people think DS2 and DS3 are twins as they are close in age :)

[Babymad]

Thanks Inglewood. I do have a nasty cough and have had it for around 4 weeks now but it's the pregnancy stuff making me feel crap really. This week I've started to feel really breathless and have had some episodes where my heart has gone funny - mainly while driving which is scary! Doctor says it's all normal pregnancy related stuff but after 3 easy pregnancies it's come as a bit of a shock. I'm wishing away the next 15 weeks I'm afraid! I'm glad everything was ok at your scan, 8 weeks will come around in no time - so exciting!

Hugs Hun, I get breathlessness in my pg's too - its really not nice. I feel like I'm being suffocated! Hope you feel better soon x

[littlemisswilko]

Deaks - i started feeling icky at around 6 weeks

[Babymad]

Just got back from the scan, it's a little Girl!!! :)
Have a pretty clear picture of the 'burger' I'll try and post it if I can a bit later on

Many congrats Hun - great news :)

[Inglewood]

Babymad, glad ur scan went well! Wasn't sure what time u were going. He is soooo cute, looks so content in there 'hugging' ur placenta!! lol how do u feel after the scan? did the boys go? xx

[Babymad]

Maybe ~ Weekend away sounds fab :)

Nini ~ many congrats :)

Deaks ~ I'm sure the sickness will kick soon Hun. How did your talk go?

Charlie ~ I'm really excited for your scan on Weds, I'm thinking and praying pink :)

Kell ~ Great pics :)

Sunset ~ lovely pics of DD :)

Pinga ~ lots of hugs Hun x

To to everyone else xx

[Inglewood]

Deaks my MS was from 7-ish wks to 14wks-ish. x

[Babymad]

Babymad, glad ur scan went well! Wasn't sure what time u were going. He is soooo cute, looks so content in there 'hugging' ur placenta!! lol how do u feel after the scan? did the boys go? xx

Thanks Inglewood. I have just tried to upload a pic on here but can't seem to do it from my iPad.
It was lovely to see 'him' and the boys enjoyed it too, well my eldest did, my DS2 just carried on playing on his DS!! My youngest enjoyed it too.
If I'm honest I don't feel any 'better' after having the scan. It was nice whilst we were there but as soon as we left all the old feelings came back. We popped into Laura Ashley afterwards and they had a girls room set out on display and I nearly burst into tears there and then, just had to leave.
I'm trying my best, I've started to buy some boy things but all I can think of still is what I will never have :(

[littlemisswilko]

awww babymad i really do feel for you and would give you a really big hug if i could! fx the pain starts to ease soon and you can start to think what life will be like when you have 4 adorable boys who then will turn into strapping young men who will worship the ground you walk on! I know i could never be without my boys and feel quite lucky i do actually have boys. big huggs to u babymad xxxx

[Inglewood]

Babymad, I agree totally with LMW and couldn't of said anything better myself. I too adore having boys and can't wait to see them as teenagers and men and although I can't fully appreciate how you feel right now, I do think of you lots and hope it eases soon. I wish we all could get our dream, esp when we have all tried so hard and been through atlot emotionally and physically. I still haven't got my head round things and have the constant worry something will go wrong, that 1 or both of the twins are born with problems, too early... can't feel content till they are here and well. Suppose we all do with our pg's. Sending u a big HUG! xx

[deaks66]

Oh babymad, your fb pics are soooo cute! i just love his little hand! Do you know today i was at this house we are interested in and all i could think is how lovely it would be to have 3 or 4 boys running around the place!! My emotions are all over the place, sometimes i want a girl so bad and sometimes i think how lovely and special it is to have all one gender. I hope that you have more and more of these moments as each day goes by.

Thanks for the reassurance on the icky feelings ladies! Im just desperate for any sign that things are ok! Though i will be regretting saying that if the suffocating breathlessness kicks in later on!

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Congratulations Kell !

[deaks66]

oh and babymad, talk went ok. Gonna instruct agents tomorrow on our house and speak to builder and structural engineer tomorrow about visiting the house with me this week.... eeek so excited! Oh and my inlaws and considering moving an hour south and buying the plot of land next to the house to build a house for them on... on tap babysitting...providing some ground rules are laid down!!!

[Inglewood]

Deaks, how exciting!!!! Does both ur families know ur pg! x

[HopeandDreamG]

Kell~ Congrats thats great news!!

Deaks~ did you post your sway? And BTW: I don't believe one bit in timing.

Inglewood~ How ya feeling??

Hi everyone!

[Petal]

Congrats Kell!!! you must be over the moon :-)

Babymad, your little boy looks adorable!!! fab pics, glad the boys enjoyed seeing him too :-)
I know what you mean about the girl stuff, i went shopping today with my 2 closest friends, one has an 11 year old girl and the other has a 3 year old boy and 16 month girl, every shop we went in they just went straight to the girl things saying awww look at this and how cute things were, i just walked off in the end and picked up some even better things for my baby boy :-)) It is hard though x

[zanacal]

Babymad - I'm so sorry you're so down, {hugs}. I loved your photos on FB too, he's such a cutie!

[deaks66]

Hope and dream, no I'm too scared to post my sway. Not sure why really, just don't want to see it down in writing! Id love to know why you don't believe in timing because I want to feel like that too! I see you are 8 days away from your attempt...FX for you!!!

Inglewood, I wasn't going to tell anyone except my best friend but then I ended up telling my mum because I hate keeping secrets from her, then my brother cos me, him and my mum and dad don't keep secrets from each other (it's a family rule) and then my inlaws because I felt like they need to know we have an oct deadline for work to this house if we get it seeing as they are going to support us through all this and potentially live next door! Anyway perhaps I'm just crap at keeping a secret. Noone else though!!!

[deaks66]

Babymad, Was thinking in my ds1's bedroom as I tucked him in just now, have you used the Cath Kidston cowboy wallpaper? It's so amazing, it's enough to totally make you forget about any girls bedroom! I seriously don't think I could find something to decorate a girls bedroom in as much as i love that!

[pebmcpd7]

I am starting the diet tomorrow, and I have wrote in all that I intend to eat on fitness pal, I can't get my calories or protein up any suggestions???

Lunch: 244cals
31g carbs
16g fat
17g protein

Dinner: 599 cals
90g carbs
19g fat
18g protein

That is a total of 870 cals (700cals below my daily target) and 26g fat and 36g protein, how can I make it up, it is harder than you think... I am 4g under on protein.

Also can I drink decaff coffee with sweetners as much as I like all day???

[Inglewood]

Deaks, I told my parents first and BF at 4/5wks. I'm crap with secrets too! xx

How exciting ur conversion will be, I told my Dh and he's so jealous!

H&G, I'm ok....plodding along. Hope ur well? x

[GeCon]

I am starting the diet tomorrow, and I have wrote in all that I intend to eat on fitness pal, I can't get my calories or protein up any suggestions???

Free Calorie Counter, Diet & Exercise Journal | MyFitnessPal.com (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/pebmcp6)

Can't see your diary. Says it is private. ;)

[pebmcpd7]

Can't see your diary. Says it is private. ;)

Don't know how to make it public, so I just wrote in my meal totals, here they are again though.


Lunch: 244cals
31g carbs
16g fat
17g protein

Dinner: 599 cals
90g carbs
19g fat
18g protein

That is a total of 870 cals (700cals below my daily target) and 26g fat and 36g protein, how can I make it up, it is harder than you think... I am 4g under on protein.

Also can I drink decaff coffee with sweetners as much as I like all day???

[pebmcpd7]

Can't see your diary. Says it is private. ;)

Don't know how to make it public but here is what I intend eating,

Lunch: 244cals
31g carbs
16g fat
17g protein

Dinner: 599 cals
90g carbs
19g fat
18g protein

That is a total of 870 cals (700cals below my daily target) and 26g fat and 36g protein, how can I make it up, it is harder than you think... I am 4g under on protein.

Also can I drink decaff coffee with sweetners as much as I like all day???

Any suggestions on how to increase where I need to...

[HopeandDreamG]

Hope and dream, no I'm too scared to post my sway. Not sure why really, just don't want to see it down in writing! Id love to know why you don't believe in timing because I want to feel like that too! I see you are 8 days away from your attempt...FX for you!!!

Inglewood, I wasn't going to tell anyone except my best friend but then I ended up telling my mum because I hate keeping secrets from her, then my brother cos me, him and my mum and dad don't keep secrets from each other (it's a family rule) and then my inlaws because I felt like they need to know we have an oct deadline for work to this house if we get it seeing as they are going to support us through all this and potentially live next door! Anyway perhaps I'm just crap at keeping a secret. Noone else though!!!

Because I have read and read and read on the topic. One of the most recent studies shows more girls conceived on O day, the opposite of what has been believed. The only basis for timing as a factor was based on Shettles research which has been TOTALLY debunked! He was looking at capaciated vs. incapacitated sperm and thought they were female vs. male which they were NOT! Everything about timing has been based on something entirely untrue. Makes much more sense that we would conceive the gender that had the most chance of surviving which is why diet sways. Girls from conception through the entire life span need less calories to survive. Just totally makes evolutionary sense. Thats why I think the only timing we need to worry about is what will get us preggo!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Don't know how to make it public but here is what I intend eating,

Lunch: 244cals
31g carbs
16g fat
17g protein

Dinner: 599 cals
90g carbs
19g fat
18g protein

That is a total of 870 cals (700cals below my daily target) and 26g fat and 36g protein, how can I make it up, it is harder than you think... I am 4g under on protein.

Also can I drink decaff coffee with sweetners as much as I like all day???

Any suggestions on how to increase where I need to...

Adding sugar free candy like red licorice, swedish fish, jelly beans gives you calories with no nutrients!

[GeCon]

How are you doing on your sodium, pebmcp6? It is difficult to suggest things without seeing your full numbers, but sweets and cakes are always a good way to put up your calories. Although if you need an extra 700 calories, I would probably see if you can fit something more substantial in.

On the subject of sodium, I found with sodium that a lot of entries on myfitnesspal are incorrect due to other members submitting the details and making mistakes when inputting the sodium. I had to change quite a few items due to this. Basically the packs list sodium in grams, i.e. 0.1g. Myfitnesspal, however, lists sodium in mg. So a lot of times people input the sodium content as 0.1, but don't realise that it is asking for mg not g, in which case it should be 100mg. Therefore in this example the item would show no sodium content when it has in fact 100mg, which is 1/10 of your daily allowance. Hope this makes sense.

As for making your diary public: My Home tab --> Settings --> Diary Settings --> Diary Sharing (at the bottom). ;)

[pinga]

Congratulations Kell - you must be so happy!!! Has it sunk in yet?

[Kell]

Thanks Pinga! I think it's starting to now! Altho I'm being upstaged at the moment by our dog as I think she's in labour! Poor things acting very strange! I'm sleeping in the livingroom with her so she's not alone!

[charlieispy]

oh kell you did make me laugh with that x i hope she is ok and i in labour all goes well x CONGRATS again

[charlieispy]

Babymad - off quickly to look at your pics before work x huge hugs my love I hope as time passes things will get easier I know they will x Like LMW you are going to be so looked after but i also totally understand your longing and upset - I hope that you can bond with him through the pics and by the time the birth comes there is no disappointment x HUGE HUGE Hugs x x

and thanks for the well wishes for weds and pooping my pants.....thinking boy which i am not sure who will take worse me or ds1 - i am came home from work and he had told my mum all about his baby sister :(

[Kell]

3 down 3 to go!!
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss103/kell_riley/45527ed7.jpg

[deaks66]

What a difference 12 hours make. Been awake most of the night with back pain and been thinking back to those awful stabbing pains that had me doubled up around implantation. Wandering of this could end up eptopic? Also just had a phone call from pharmacy telling me my progesterone has been discontinued so heading down to docs to get some answers. Hopefully I'm just being paranoid!

[Kell]

Fingers crossed everything's ok Deaks!

Well lexi did it bless her, 6 beautiful puppies, 3 black boys, 1 black girl and 2 fox red girls!
Here they all are http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss103/kell_riley/91e25093.jpg
We are all shattered but what an experience! I'm of to work now zzzzzzzz

[Lavenderlime]

Deaks when you go to your Dr.s explain how you are feeling and push for a 6 week scan maybe? Hope your not worrying yourself too much.

Kell so sweet! Are your boys excited?

[deaks66]

Just back from docs. He made a phone call to the hospital while i was there and they said at the moment the best thing to do is get bloods done today and again on thursday to check levels are rising properly. Then i can go for a scan next week if there is still concern or straight to a&e if pain gets worse. They dont seem to think being on progesterone will delay a miscarriage by much so that has set my mind at rest and they definately want me to stay on the crinone which i have managed to track down at another pharmacy. At least i have a plan now...

Did anyone else have lower back ache in early pg? i only had it with my oct chemical, dont remember having it with the boys.

Kell, gorgeous pups there!

[zanacal]

Deaks - I had lower back pain with 3 of my pregnancies, in fact it was my only symptom! I really, really hope that everything is fine. The life time of worrying really does start the moment you see those two lines doesn't it?! Have you read the 'trouble with timing' thread on here? Perhaps reading that will put your mind at ease and help you to realise that you have as good a chance of a girl as everybody else out there (and you already know I conceived mine on O day!).

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

[chocolate]

Hiya, Deaks I had awful back ache with DS1 it was agony! I had a progesterone shot which effects the muscles so hope its that.

Ive been ill with an awful cough and going hot and cold, had to sleep with the window open and in just a vest, went to drs and she said chest is clear but was so painful, then I got out and sobbed like a baby in the car park, very embarrassing! Worried my fever has caused damage to the baby too so will ask at the scan tomorrow

[Petal]

Aww Kell, those little doggies are just adorable, well done Lexi :-))

Deaks, hope you're ok and get some answers soon, try not to worry yourself too much x

[littlemisswilko]

aww kell your pups are adorable.. are they labs?

chocolate - hope you start to feel well soon. and GL with the scan tomorrow x

[charlieispy]

Kell - are the labradors?? My mum is looking for a black female lab puppy!!!

Deaks - FX for your betas hope they come back nice and high and double fantastically x

Getting nervous now :S luckily my BF is coming down tomorrow so we are meeting up she is giving me a scan pep talk lol then just got to get through till weds 1pm......eeeeeeeeeee

[charlieispy]

Chocolate - hope you feel better soon x FX for the scan dont worry a fever shouldnt harm your baby x

[deaks66]

Zanacal, thanks for that, makes a very interesting read and does put my mind at rest!

Charlie, will be keeping my fx for you on wed, i so hope you get your pink dream! Glad you have a friend here tomorrow to help pass the time!

Chocolate, enjoy your scan tomorrow too hun. Sorry you are feeling rough, but bubs is lovely and protected in there so im sure all fine. I remember getting a horrific sickness bug with fever for a few days and was petrified about the baby but the doctor was very relaxed about it.

Kell, have you got any takers for the pups? will you keep one for yourself?

Potential house move starting to feel very real now! Agent coming to photograph our house tomorrow. Am i mad thinking of moving to the countryside? Ive always wanted to but am aware the grass is always greener!

[littlemisswilko]

charlie are you going to find out or thinking of doing the paper and envelope? xxx

[charlieispy]

OMG deaks sooooo totally jealous if all goes ahead can i live with you ;) FX for you hun sounds amazing

I will definitely be getting the sex written down not sure if i will read it lol x I keep thinking back to my potty shot at 13wks i dont think i have a chance at pink i cant imagine a scan with no obvious willy! God why cant you choose lol

[deaks66]

OMG deaks sooooo totally jealous if all goes ahead can i live with you ;) FX for you hun sounds amazing

I will definitely be getting the sex written down not sure if i will read it lol x I keep thinking back to my potty shot at 13wks i dont think i have a chance at pink i cant imagine a scan with no obvious willy! God why cant you choose lol

Just keep remembering my friend who had a 15 week scan and there was a massive sticky outey nub that she was convinced was a willy.... 6 weeks later though and it was all girl!

[charlieispy]

thanks hun hope i can be so lucky x x am so excited for you and this house i really hope it all goes through - how amazing and how brill for the boys....you will be able to fling open your doors and let them run :D

[deaks66]

thanks hun hope i can be so lucky x x am so excited for you and this house i really hope it all goes through - how amazing and how brill for the boys....you will be able to fling open your doors and let them run :D

How amazing will that be! Mind you i have no doubt we will end up in a bidding war and even if we do get it, it means living in a caravan for 3-6 months pregnant with 2 boisterous boys and a massive dog!!!! OH GOD!

[Kell]

Hey ladies, sorry to be short and sweet I'm shattered as you can imagine! Charlie yep they are labs, we have one black female if she's still looking! Altho I'm not sure how far away you are lol!

Lexi is doing great and the pups are too, noisy little things, they sound like newborn babies grunting lol not sure how much sleep we will get worrying about them and getting them to feed but it'll all be worth it!

Deaks yeh I think we are going to keep one of the fox red girls. Wish we had the space for more tho :S

I'm off to bed I think, 3 hours kip in 48 hours isn't enough!

[Lavenderlime]

How amazing will that be! Mind you i have no doubt we will end up in a bidding war and even if we do get it, it means living in a caravan for 3-6 months pregnant with 2 boisterous boys and a massive dog!!!! OH GOD!

I do think the people on grand designs who live out of Caravans with kids during their builds are saints. It would drive me beyond stir crazy then you see the fabulous homes they create but those months or years living in caravan are clearly a great trade off for the final product!
Such an exciting project to have in the pipeline.

[Babymad]

Thanks for all the hugs girls xxx Annoyed me that a couple of people put girl on my FB pics as I have said in the most direct way that's it's a boy....just can't bring myself to say I have had it confirmed...silly I know!!

Charlie ~ Are you asking them to write the sex down? Have a nice day with your friend :) Do most of your friends know you would like a girl? Does your DH want to find out?

Deaks ~ I get back ache in early pg so I'm sure things are fine but having had 3 m/c's I totally understand your concern. Be great if you can get an early scan. Great to hear plans with the house are going well :) Where abouts is the house?
That's really strange that you mentioned the CK cowboys theme as I have been watching the changing bag on eBay :) I love it too :) Much prefer the Yummy Mummy change bag with cupcakes but don't think that would look right with a boy ;)

This baby will be sharing with DS3 ( my other two boys share and love it) that was one of the reasons why I really wanted four so DS3 had someone to share with, I shared with my brother and have fab memories and didn't want him to miss out. Not sure they'll all appreciate it when they are teeny boppers bringing their girlfriends home but they're not getting their hands on my office! (fourth bedroom) ;)
We are going to decorate DS3's room before baby arrives. So I will be look out for the wallpaper :)

Chocolate ~ hope you feel better soon

Kell ~ lovely pics of the pups

[Babymad]

Petal ~ Those sad moments never get any easier do they :( my friend was round today with her DD who is 3, the same age as DS3 and they played lovely....She had brought her pushchair with her and they played mummy and daddies :) melted my heart.....but I also felt heartbroken that my boys will never experience having a sister, that upsets me just as much as me never having a daughter...the things they will miss out on too :(
When my friend left I heard her saying 'come on or we'll be late for ballet'.....what I would have done to say those words.

How's your little man doing? How many weeks is he now? X

[Babymad]

Inglewood ~ How are you doing?

[pebmcpd7]

How are you doing on your sodium, pebmcp6? It is difficult to suggest things without seeing your full numbers, but sweets and cakes are always a good way to put up your calories. Although if you need an extra 700 calories, I would probably see if you can fit something more substantial in.

On the subject of sodium, I found with sodium that a lot of entries on myfitnesspal are incorrect due to other members submitting the details and making mistakes when inputting the sodium. I had to change quite a few items due to this. Basically the packs list sodium in grams, i.e. 0.1g. Myfitnesspal, however, lists sodium in mg. So a lot of times people input the sodium content as 0.1, but don't realise that it is asking for mg not g, in which case it should be 100mg. Therefore in this example the item would show no sodium content when it has in fact 100mg, which is 1/10 of your daily allowance. Hope this makes sense.

As for making your diary public: My Home tab --> Settings --> Diary Settings --> Diary Sharing (at the bottom). ;)

Yeah I noticed that about the sodium when I had a few of my foods put in, I managed to make my page public, check it out. Don't worry about the misspelled words, every time I put in a food it said it was already there and I don't think the nutrients were right on them...

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/pebmcp6?date=2012-02-12

[Babymad]

Who would like to meet at Wells over the summer???

[GeCon]

pebmcp6, I would add some sweets like Skittles or Weight Watchers desserts or cookies.

Another good one might be: Lurpak Spreadable Lighter Butter Unsalted. Just calories and fat, no sodium or protein.

As for myfitnesspal: You can also change your goals to reflect your true goals a bit more. Go into My Home --> Goals. If you click on Change Goals and then Custom. There you can change your calories, sodium and also change the carbs, fat, protein ratio if desired. Just thought it might be helpful as the fat and protein allowance looks a bit high.

[Sunset]

I dont know where Wells is but count me in! there's no way i'm missing out on a smog meet :D

Babymad ~ saw the u/s pictures on fb and he truly is a littel cutie!! got little chubby cheeks already :) I truly hope it starts to get a bit easier soon for you.. you have such a beautiful family and no doubt he will be just as cute as your other boys! ((hugs))

Kell ~ congrats on the puppies, how sweet!!! hows the mama doing?

Chocolate ~ hope you feel better soon! don't worry hun your baby will be fine!

Charlieispy ~ good luck on sunday i will be wearing pink for you!!! i remember how nerve wrecking it was when i went for my scan, so you're very lucky to have such a good friend to come and give you a pre scan pep talk, hope you 2 have a lovely day today :)

Pinga ~ hope you're doing ok! what kidney condition is it that you've got if you don't mind me asking?

Maybepink3 ~ How are you doing hun? we're all here if you need to vent!

Inglewood ~ Hows the twin bump today? :p have you got some recent bump pictures? :)

Indigoviolet ~ how are you hun?

Maybebaby ~ hows that blood pressure?

Deaks ~ how exciting with the house! good luck :D

Threelittlemen ~ how are you doing? are you all feeling better now?

hello to everyone else!! :) my pink plastic (driving license) came in the post yesterday :D i can't stop staring at it lol i also drove to newcastle this weekend which was a very interesting experience :p

[Lavenderlime]

Morning!

There's a Well's fairly near me Bristol way but i'm thinking it's not that one?

Babymad I have the CK Cowboy nappy bag and got a lady on ebay to make me matching buggy liners. When I had ds2.
DS1 also has a lovely handmade CK cowboys quilt on his bed and I have vintage Rodeo posters from US framed on his wall!

Chocolate how are you feeling? Hope a lot better.

Sunset sounds like your enjoying driving!

Kell did you get much sleep looking after those puppies?

[pinga]

I would love to come to a meet up! Just the problem of a few 1000 miles in the way :D Ah well... maybe when we're back in the UK.

That CK cowboy print is really nice. Oh and Babymad - if you like the cupcake bag... you buy the cupcake bag! :D When I had DS2 I had this lovely waterproof fabric with flowers over it and I made a change mat which I use!!! I made my own nappy bag and I guess its quite boyish colours.... but I figure - the nappy bag is yours... not theirs... so it can be as girly as you want!

Kell - very cute puppies - almost makes me want a dog... but I'm afraid I'm a cat person 100%. :)

Sunset - I've got Polycystic Kidney Disease (basically cysts on my kidneys and liver) - they increase as I get older and may cause kidney failure. My Dad passed away from kidney failure but he was 80 so he had a good long life. There are different severities of PKD and I believe my family has the milder version. Just got to look after my BP and my kidney function. Nobody has ever heard of it but its apparently more common than cystic fibrosis or downs syndrome.

Got a sick little man today so been exhausting. He won't be put down and just wants cuddles while DS1 keeps getting really jealous of all the attention the other one is getting. I hate it when they're sick!!!!

[deaks66]

Hi all,

Babymad, i saw that on your fb and thought it seemed a bit insensitive since you have hinted at bubs being a boy several times. People just dont think...thats why you have us :)
I love love love anything in the cowboy print. Here is my ds1's bedroom in it though i couldnt get a very detailed pic as cant zoom out enough. But it makes me smile every time i go in there. Cath kidston has crap wallpaper for girls... ha ha! But i agree with pinga, the bag is yours not the bubs, so buy what you like! I always go for a cath kidston spotty bag and then fill it with the stuff baby needs instead of an actual changing bag. 1435

Oh and i am definately up for a meet! Not sure how i would explain it to my dh that im meeting my 'online friends' but i can convince him to do anything! When shall we do it?

Chocolate, am thinking of you and your scan today...exciting!

Sunset, loved your blonde moment on fb...i've so done that and im not blonde!

Charlie, how are the nerves today...hope you're having a great time with you friend!

Maybe, hows the blood pressure?

Hi to everyone else!

Just had pics done of my house so it should be online by the end of the week! Have to keep reminding me that i will love my new house even more once its done but i do love this one too! Babymad, the house we want is near Hertford and Welwyn, not far from here so if we get it, i can keep my circle of friends going.

Not getting backache anymore :)

[chocolate]

Hey everyone, scan went well bubs was very cute! Here are my pics but probably too early for good nub guesses as 11+3 :-)
Feel on the mend, chest pains have gone just a heavy cold now but feel so much better thankfully.

Will catch up with all the posts after my nub and skull obsessing lol

[zanacal]

Deaks, that is one gorgeous bedroom! Love it :D

I agree with the changing bag - it's your bag so buy whatever you like. It's not like the baby will be carrying it!

[zanacal]

chocolate - I don't have a strong boy or girl opinion either way but those pictures do look a lot like my sister's baby girl photos and the nub looks very girly - just a bit too early!

[chocolate]

Thanks Zanacal, I dont really know what to look for and is indecisive anyway so have no idea, will prob. get a 14 week scan though.


I also agree about you buy a change bag in a style you like for you, not for a boy or girl design to match the baby lol

[chocolate]

I would love to come to a meet up! Just the problem of a few 1000 miles in the way :D Ah well... maybe when we're back in the UK.

That CK cowboy print is really nice. Oh and Babymad - if you like the cupcake bag... you buy the cupcake bag! :D When I had DS2 I had this lovely waterproof fabric with flowers over it and I made a change mat which I use!!! I made my own nappy bag and I guess its quite boyish colours.... but I figure - the nappy bag is yours... not theirs... so it can be as girly as you want!

Kell - very cute puppies - almost makes me want a dog... but I'm afraid I'm a cat person 100%. :)

Sunset - I've got Polycystic Kidney Disease (basically cysts on my kidneys and liver) - they increase as I get older and may cause kidney failure. My Dad passed away from kidney failure but he was 80 so he had a good long life. There are different severities of PKD and I believe my family has the milder version. Just got to look after my BP and my kidney function. Nobody has ever heard of it but its apparently more common than cystic fibrosis or downs syndrome.

Got a sick little man today so been exhausting. He won't be put down and just wants cuddles while DS1 keeps getting really jealous of all the attention the other one is getting. I hate it when they're sick!!!!

Hope DS1 perks up, weve all been ill and its hard when they all want your attention

[maybebabythree]

Happy valentines everyone! Just a quick one as feeling a bit strange. Bp is fine thanks - can't belive the meds are really working! Been itching to get more baby clothes but must resist! Having a growth scan and consultant appointment tomorrow. Feel like I live at hospital now! Every midwife and doctor I have seen is 100% lovely. Still half in denail and half wanting it over to have dave now

[Kell]

Chocolate what a little cutie you have growing there, I agree the nub looks girly but I don't know what stage is best to tell so I'm no good lol!

Sunset lexi is doing great! She's a natural mummy bless her!
Lavender nope not much sleek at all lol, me and oh took shifts of sleeping down stairs, the pups and mum seem much more settled today tho so we may get a little more sleep!

Deaks you really must live close to me! Hertford and Welwyn are very nice, which village are you looking at? I bet it's starting to get exciting now! How are you feeling today? Is your back ok?

[Kell]

Hey maybe! Hope you feel better and get to meet dave soon, happy valentines day :)

[deaks66]

Maybe, glad bp doing well. You must be desperate to meet little dave now!

Kell, looking at a village called tewin. Where are you? we are in St. A at the moment. Love it here but its not the country :)

[deaks66]

Kell, backache has all gone now so im left feeling even more un-pregnant than before!

[Kell]

Tewin is lovely!!
I'm in Stevenage so not far from st A! I am desperate to get over there for a wagamamas lol
Glad the back ache has eased, I had it terribly with Charlie on and off, don't worry your symptoms will smack you in the face soon enough! Then you'll be moaning with the rest of us lol!

[charlieispy]

Count me in for wells!!!!
Can't wait to meet up

Welwyn is close in my heart I spent a lot of my childhood there m great aunt lived there miss going now she is gone....am pretty close it's only 45mins for me

My scan is tomorrow at 1 am pooping it god I know I will see willy

Chocolate that is so a girls nub fx for you x x

Be on tomoz freaking out no doubt wish scan was in the morning!

Happy valentines x x x x x

[Kell]

Fingers crossed Charlie! I know your team green but I hope you don't see willy!

[deaks66]

oh im glad you like Tewin Kell as i dont really know the area that well. Its easy to get cocooned in St A as it has everything there! If i get the house im after i expect we will give birth in the same hospital! If i dont move i will have to give birth in Watford...urgh had a crap experience with ds1 there.... as welwyn has shut its mat ward where i had ds2. Shame as it was great!

Charlie, i would feel exactly the same! You got a great chance of hearing girl with all that lime you used hun...keep remembering that!

Its funny, when i had backache i was complaining and now im symptomless, im still complaining!

[Inglewood]

Hi all!

had another day of plumbers and people trying to sort this house out!!! Swim lessons and now I'm shattered!

Charlie, thinking of u for tom! xx so exciting xx

Babymad, hope ur well? I'm ok tired and achy, had to get dh to push me out of bed for the loo at 3am!! lol

Sunset, ds2 took more pics yest, will upload them tom.

Deaks, so excited for u, FX u have the winning bid!!

Lavender, how u doing? Seen ur Gp again?

Pinga, how are u feeling now?

Hi to Kell, Gecon, H&G, indigo, Petal and so sorry if I have missed anyone! Hope ur all well??

I have the midwife tom, will mention this 'clicking noise' read it could be the babies hips????????????? hope not! Feeling ok, everyone I meet tells me how well I look etc... that carrying twins suits me... ?? not so sure, think I have just got on with it better this time than with ds2, I was ALOT worse when pg with him and this time (super sick and horrific PD early on) I have finished earlier at work which has helped! But still have 8wks to go...plenty of time to get worse...hope not!

Off to watch the big fat gypsy weddings..... nite ladies!! FX charlie and enjoy seeing bubs! xx

[Kell]

Deaks Welwyns mat unit was moved to the one here in Stevenage, it's been extended and upgraded and is now a midwife led unit at the lister hospital! I can't wait to give birth there, and when I'm done studying its where I hope I'll be based!
You don't have to go to Watford, you could go to Stevenage if you chose to but I imagine you'd have to let your midwife know its what you wanted. It's literally another 10 mind from Welwyn on the A1 so not too much bother.

[Babymad]

Happy Valentines Girls xx

I have never thought about buying a girly changing bag.... Funny isn't it! I just couldn't be doing with all the comments when I had girly bag hanging on the pushchair and out came a baby boy.....!! But as this is my last baby and I am a real baby person I know I have got to make the most of it as it is the last time I will be doing it! So I may opt for girly or defo the cowboys from CK.

Lavender ~ are you ttc this month?

Deaks ~ gorgeous bedroom...love it!

Maybe ~ I hope your little man makes an appearance soon :) A footballing mum has gone into labour today with her third boy, I was very envious......I am counting down the weeks!!

Chocolate ~ great scan pics, I love the third one:)

Inglewood ~ I hope you manage to have a rest tonight x

Pinga ~ How are you doing?

It's 'Wells Next The Sea' - We will probably go for the week-end as its too far to travel for the day. When is good for everyone....July or August? We can meet with partners and kids or just us girls or kids too....what would people prefer??

Kell ~ pleased the pups and mum are doing well. We have got DH's brothers two dogs for half term - the boys love it!

Charlie ~ I am so excited for you tomorrow xx I have very good vibes that you'll be seeing pink! Everything crossed for you xx

[deaks66]

Deaks Welwyns mat unit was moved to the one here in Stevenage, it's been extended and upgraded and is now a midwife led unit at the lister hospital! I can't wait to give birth there, and when I'm done studying its where I hope I'll be based!
You don't have to go to Watford, you could go to Stevenage if you chose to but I imagine you'd have to let your midwife know its what you wanted. It's literally another 10 mind from Welwyn on the A1 so not too much bother.

Ar i didnt realise they had relocated welwyn! I will definately go to stevenage if we move to Tewin. But if we stay in STA i think its likely i will go for watford as its a quite a bit closer. Saying that i had to wait for my parents to get down from cambs to babysit last time, so this time i could just meet them at stevenage which would actually save time!

[deaks66]

Babymad, you know what, im actually quite up for a girly meet up...that might actually be more relaxing! what does anyone else think?

[pebmcpd7]

Second day on the diet and I have managed to eat up my calories, I did have to eat empty calories to make it up, but I read on the August thread that it is so important to eat your calories quota to stay healthy.

Here is what I ate today, let me know what you think, I am going to eat this menu for a few days til I get more suggestions.

Pebmcp6's Food Diary | MyFitnessPal.com (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/pebmcp6)

:DD::D::D::D::D::D::D::D::D::D:

[Lavenderlime]

Happy Valentines day, DP had flowers delivered to the house which really threw me! Nice though :)

Kell glad the puppies are settling hope you get more rest tonight.

Inglewood The next step with Dr's is more bloods, (day 21) We came to the conclusion that my day 16 spotting was the start of a new cycle so I had a 16 day cycle that I didn't ovulate in followed by a 30 day cycle, which I may have ovulated in. I really hope my cycle stays normal. Normal type AF besides on off lower back pain in my ovaries trying to try not to look too much into it though.

Babymad I am TTC in a big way this month I just want to be pregnant really badly now. Especially with my dodgey cycles. Also today a friend of mine who knows I'm swaying has decided that she and her husband want to TTC no2.
Our cycles are in sync and it would be amazing if we could have EDD a few days or even months appart.

So my new plan for this month is no gels which is risky but am on the same acidophilus as Deaks and Inglewood that makes your pH super low. I've been on a strict girl diet for over 4 months now even stuck to it when we went away. I also weigh the same as I did when I was about 13/14!! So hoping that is my strongest sway. I'm throwing timing out of the window and just going to DTD loads between CD 10 to O day probably even over O. But going to use an anthistamine- which one i'm not sure, any help would be great? I'm not on Cranberry Tabs anymore.

Deaks do you mean Just us mum's no Children? Where is Wells if it's not the one in Somerset?

[charlieispy]

babymad - i have the cath cowboy bag and love it felt the same as you - didnt want a girly bag if it was a boy x i got mine on ebay for £30 secondhand barely used!!! I love love love the cowboy fabric, gorg room deaks x x

Maybe we could do girly meet up then get the kids together come the summer???

Good luck for this month lavender hope its your BFP month and to everyone else trying x x

Deaks - please try not to worry although i think we were all the same i def didnt feel pregnant at first then OMG!!!!

Ok todays the day ladies am shitting myself to say the least.......damn it being 1....why couldt it be 9!!! ARRRGGGGGGGGHHH

halfway today though melon baby :D

[chocolate]

Charlie, enjoy your scan! Are you asking about gender? If not, I hope you get a flash of girly bits lol xx

[Wishing4Pink]

Good luck with your scan today Charlie, got my fx for you x

[charlieispy]

thanks all chocolate that is what i dream of lol x not planning on getting the sonographer to tell us just write it down - hoping not to read it but its there if i need it x

[Lavenderlime]

Massive good luck Charlie!!! She will write down girl, girl, girl!!! x

[Sunset]

good luck today charlieispy!! i know you're staying team green but i'm still wearing my pink socks for you and cheering you on from afar! :cheer: i'll be stalking here later for an update! xx

[Lavenderlime]

OMG Charlie I think you have a girl in there for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just had a reading wit Cara and it was very accurate will post more about that later.
But In her reading to you didn't she say something about a red car in your future then you got your red car!!! And she said girl for you please look at what they write down please, please!

[Kell]

Eeeeeeee I'm excited Charlie you can't write it down and not look! That's torture of all of us lol!
I hope your in there now, baby's legs a kimbo showing you girly bits!!!!

[maybebabythree]

Good luck Charlie fx for you xxxx

[Lavenderlime]

P.S Kell you Need to change your Siggy to Due a :DD:!!!

[Inglewood]

Charlie, hope ur scan has gone well!

Lavender, I never got to use an anti-histamine, used sudafed 1st mth ttc (gave me palpitations), 2nd mth had planned to use Zyrtec (certirizine) as I use that for my hayfever, but missed cut off, so didn't bother taking it ttc in mth 2 and fell pg that mth. Glad ur getting bloods done.

I saw the Midwife today, Twin 1 still head down Heart beat 152bpm, Twin 2 still Breech and HR- 148. My Bp and urine behaving, so far... so all was well. My midwife is lovely and very supportive that this time with the twins I will bottle feed, so that helps! She also said that she had heard the 'clicking' noise I hear is hiccups... not so sure??? Went to sanisbury's got 256 huggies for just over £13!!!!!! BARGAIN!!! and my eyebrows waxed. Been wondering if the school will call as ds2 bless him has a "sore brain" think he's getting a head cold :( gave him calpol b4 school as he didn't want to miss Tennis today! Managed to eat a wispa then 2 apple turnovers...now I feel sicky! Not exactly a nutritious lunch at all, usually have a nice sandwich....but ate 1 then couldn't resist the other...oops! Hid the box from dh!! straight in the bin!! lol

Speak later... xx

[zanacal]

Inglewood - glad everything's well, you surely have a room in your house filled with nothing but nappies at this rate :D

Lavender - I used Zyrtec, easy to pick up in Tesco!

Charlie - I hope your scan went well, can't wait to hear from you!

[zanacal]

Second day on the diet and I have managed to eat up my calories, I did have to eat empty calories to make it up, but I read on the August thread that it is so important to eat your calories quota to stay healthy.

Here is what I ate today, let me know what you think, I am going to eat this menu for a few days til I get more suggestions.

Pebmcp6's Food Diary | MyFitnessPal.com (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/pebmcp6)

:DD::D::D::D::D::D::D::D::D::D:

Well done! I meant to say about the sweets, try to get the ones suitable for vegetarians so you're avoiding geletin. I'm not sure wine gums would come in to that category!

[auroara78]

Charlie, I can't wait to hear the news of your scan...and I know you want to stay team green, but I really, really feel that this is your girl and I think it would be a relief for you to find out! FX you take a peek and it says PINK!

[charlieispy]

AM BACK OMG i couldnt see lol!! The lady wouldnt write it down for me point blank refused!!!
So with all my abilities to look for sex I did but couldnt see for sure - thought i saw 3 lines a couple of times, but pos one flash of maybe willy.....when you could see the whole baby - no scrotum to be seen but basically i have no idea!!!

will post a pic but there is no gender clues in it!!

[littlemisswilko]

awww so glad everything went well charlie!!!! such a shame she wouldnt write it down for you! good you didnt see too much

[Babymad]

What a meanie not writing it down Charlie! But everything sounds good for pink to me :) Especially as you thought you saw white lines, that is great news! And the fact that you couldn't see a willy says it all as its very obvious by 20 weeks if there is one ;) How are you feeling? Are you happy that you stayed team green or do you wish that you had asked? Get thinking of pink names Hun xx

[charlieispy]

oh i wish she would have written it down - i was so bad when i went in i was physically shaking and shivering, my legs shook the whole scan!! I did see some i worry was a willy but would say i saw more of the 3 lines.....but then googling - lots of scans which were boys and they saw 3 lines SIGH i should have bloody found out lol

AND you begin to think about everything - she said do you wantto find out i said i didnt know - she said maybe it would be nice to have a surprise.....then after trying to fix the printer said well if you would be disappointed maybe you shouldnt......DH took this as its a boy! Bollox maybe i will book a private scan lol

[zanacal]

Aww, what a shame she wouldn't write it down for you! Stop Googling woman :D Still, the fact that you didn't see a really obvious willy is a good sign! I definitely think you should book a private scan if it's going to drive you nuts for the next 20 weeks!

[maybebabythree]

Glad your scan went well Charlie! I really am useless at my 20 week scans. They need to have a sign saying it's a boy or literally I am looking at the wrong end of the baby.

My hospital appointment today was a shambles. I wasn't booked in so didn't get my growth scan. Waited three hours to see consultant. Asked asked the scan but she as I wasn't overdue there was no point (dispite the fact my placenta was 50% dead by now with ds1). Got a date for induction so I am fed up and upset now. Beginning to wish I wasn't pg. Do not want to be induced. Hope Dave comes in his own time before then but little chance as it's before my due date. I can't say no as it's risking both our lifes but I don't want to be induced again. Sniff...

[zanacal]

{hugs} maybe, sorry you're having a rough time x

[Babymad]

You analysis everything don't you Charlie!! I still think girl... :) very promising!!

Maybe ~ I hope Dave makes an appearance soon - lots of hugs xx

I have had a very draining day so hoping for an early night. My friend had her baby boy today - her third boy. Saw pics on FB, he is sweetie - I didn't feel excited though - horrible I know!

[auroara78]

Charlie, can't you just call your doctor and say you want to know the gender now? Even if you didn't want to know, your doctor should have that info.

Or you could just have more fun and book a private scan! If it's driving you crazy hun I would find out..but obviously your decision...I still stand by my feeling of pink for you! Plus if you didnt' see a real obvious willy, I think it's looking good for a girl....DS1 and 2 were obvious boys once I knew what I was looking for hah!

[Sunset]

charlieispy ~ aww so happy your scan went well and that baby is happy & healthy! i cant believe she wouldnt write it down.. i guess they dont dare to though in case they get it wrong. Dont worry about what you thought was a willy.. i thought i saw a winky on all my scans but she's definitely a girl. and stay away from google woman! :P

maybebaby ~ when are you getting induced? how was your last induction? i cant believe you werent booked in for your scan.. your hospital doesnt seem very organised :S

Inglewood ~ aww not long left to go now :) are you excited? :D

Babymad ~ congratulations to your friend! how much did he weigh?

hello to everyone else! *big waves*

[indigoviolet]

sorry ladies been away for a few days and now going away for rest of halfterm, been so busy but missed you all :HH:

feeling sicky still so got to go and lie down now that dh is home.

kell- wonderful news!!

Babymad- hugs to you, still thinking of you

maybebaby- hope they manage to sort themselves out and start to look after you properly, what a joke. So frustrating for you. Praying that dave arrives soon, well and healthy. Hang in there hon.

Charlie- great news about scan, lovely to have healthy baby but soooo annoying she wouldn't write it down for you, what a weirdo, such a simple request....I'm feeling girl for you if that helps!!

love to everyone else, catch up when I get back!

[Inglewood]

Charlie, sure u will do what u think is best, scan or no scan! :) Sounds promising tho! xx

Sunset, can't wait till tues to get my section date!! eek! my babies birthday!

Indigo, :( sorry to hear ur sicky....

Maybe, when is ur induction date? Try to keep +ve, ur baby will be here just after that! I don't really know much about induction as I was only induced with ds1 and the syntocin was at MAX and I still wouldn't labour/dilate. I only got to 2cm then sectioned as 19hrs had passed and ds1 was distressed with the myconium.

Babymad, hope u get a good nights rest!

Off to get boys ready for bed then watch OBEM, it's about TWINS!!!! xx

[maybebabythree]

My last induction was pretty intense. Had the tampon thing, then the gel. Not much seemed to be happening so I went for a walk around the unit. Got about 20 metres and was doubled over with drilling back ache. Managed to get back to my bed. Beeped the midwife as thought my waters had gone. She went to get the test and then I was sick. She examined me and I was 3cm dilated. Got put in the wheelchair to delivery room bynow I wanted to push. Got to delivery room and I was fully dilated! One hour from my first pain. Spent thresholds pushing him back to back in agony. Then they called in a doctor as I wasn't progressing. Had the drip, episeotomy, vontose and he was born withe cord round his neck. He was resusatated outside the room as soon as he was born. So 4.5 labour in total but blardy painful and scary but to be honest I mentally left the room as after a point I couldn't take it. Much precferred the 48 labour with ds2

[Babymad]

Sunset ~ he was 7lb 13oz, I feel massive and ready to pop already and ive got another 15 wks to go...scared this baby is going to be a biffa ;)

Indigo ~ hope you feel better soon (()). Have a lovely time away xx

Inglewood ~ im watching obem too :)

Maybe ~ ive been induced twice and both times were very different experiences so stay focused for a positive experience, he may surprise you and come early :)

[Babymad]

Zanacal ~ forgot to say our timing was the same as yours, did u dtd more than once?

[charlieispy]

everyone is offering to pay for me to have a gender scan lol x i am a wreck x i feel so stupid and so stressed all at once

[zanacal]

Zanacal ~ forgot to say our timing was the same as yours, did u dtd more than once?

No, just the once. I don't believe timing sways at all but I wanted to make sure we DTD on the third of DH's 'releases' in a 24 hour period and he released twice a day for 10 days prior to that.

I feel massive too, hate to wish away the rest of my last pregnancy but I really am!

[Lavenderlime]

Thank you for the Antihistamine names ladies.

just watching OBEM

I will cut and paste the bits of reading to do with gender and pregnancy. I've also booked another reading for next Wednesday this is with a lady in person really looking forward to it.

Like this weeks couples on OBEM the twin mum is teeny tiny!

[Lavenderlime]

The first card is right in the middle of the spread and this is the card which represents you, the ‘self’ so is obviously right in the centre- most important! The card to come up for you was the ace of wands. Now this is really strange because it doesn’t fit in with my immediate feelings around you at all! So I drew another card here and it was a card with pretty similar meanings! So even if this makes no sense to you either at the minute, bear with me as it is obviously very important! Aces of any suit show new beginnings, it reminds me of a seed being planted… something new started which through time will develop and grow into something bigger. Now I was shown learning with this... the idea of career- is this something you have been thinking about? As I feel you have intelligence, a great deal of it which you rarely use and you are being told off! Lol so perhaps something to think about going forward? As I do feel this will fulfil you.

Actually now that I think about it- this theme of a seed being planted and growing- although quite graphic could also represent a baby in the womb couldn’t it? I will look into this a bit more soon, as more cards relating to this have come up in the reading but I do feel this is an early indication that you are either pregnant just now or will be very soon!

The final card in the spread is an overall card but also focuses on the future- the knave of chalices. Now often this will show a pregnancy around you J and I was being shown a little girl here. I do feel this will be very soon as I said before so I asked my cards when and I was shown the winter months… for conception and birth- are you sure you are not pregnant at the minute?! Maybe you should test!

[Lavenderlime]

Those were just the first and last cards and there were other bits inbetween that talked about other bits.

Got me excited that this IS my month as this is the last winter month to conceive in as March is much more of a spring month and it will be my little girl :)

[Inglewood]

OBEM was quite good. The twin mum was teeny and she had teeny babies! I'll have 2 bruisers, even 4wks early! Had my phone going like mad, people saying "ohh, that's u soon" lol
I knew one of the Midwives on it!! small world, but I trained with her many years ago.

Lavender, how exciting! I had a reading b4 pg, told me Emeralds and May would be significant this year alongside creation and new life. These babies are due May (birth stone emerald)... she showed me cards with little girls on them and said...maybe a girl?

Dh has decided he'd like to convert the loft for the boys and NOT move!! arghhhhhh MEN!!!!! We would loose about £20-30,000 if we moved now and Dh could convert the loft mostly himself. Ds1 not happy at his school and although he only has 2yrs left to go, I was hoping we could move so he could go to the school where 2 of his friend moved to. Seems silly to loose all that £ when we could do a cheap conversion and bide out time till the market picks up. What to do???

Nite ladies.... xx

[pebmcpd7]

My food intake for tomorrow 16th, let me know what you think, is the broccoli OK. I find it handy to write out all I am going to eat the day before, it saves me wondering what to eat. I read somewhere on here that it is good to vary your calories to trick your body into thinking it is being deprived...

Pebmcp6's Food Diary | MyFitnessPal.com (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/pebmcp6?date=2012-02-16)

[pinga]

Charlie - sounds promising if you saw lines. Fingers crossed... Try not to go too insane analysing what you think you saw :D

Maybe - I was induced with DS2 and it was a fantastic birth!! Better than DS1. I just had the drip (no gel or anything) and from my first contraction to birth was 55 minutes and it was great. It was very intense very quickly but that was the only downside. So you can never tell how induction will go - hope you get one like mine.

babymad - doing ok here. I find it easier when I don't think about things too much. I'm trying to think through all the best bits about boys and not focusing on the things we'll be missing out on. Its hard when my BFs all have little girls and when we catch up its such an ache watching their little girls playing... How are you getting on? Is it getting any easier?

Had an appointment with the docs today and got to see bub at my cervical length scan (very briefly!)... always nice to see them wiggling away.

[chocolate]

Morning, charlie, I posted over on a forum called a-gender and there is a lady tanyan who has a fab reputation on nub guessing, if u have a nub pic she may be able to guess, good luck! Unfortunatly she guessed boy on mine I'm afraid lol so am convinced boy now!

[Kell]

Inglewood we are doing a loft conversion because of the expense of moving, it'll be a short term fix for the time being but gives us the extra bedroom we need do all good. Just need to save up the money for it now!

[charlieispy]

Inglewood - I know you really wanted to move but if DH can do the conversion cheaply and give you a bit more room - then maybe when you sell you wont lose anything?? Maybe plan to move before DS1 moves up school or for that move?? Unfortunately my DH is useless at anything like that or we would be converting the loft too - instead it will be either triple bunks or 2 bunkbeds!!

maybe - huge hugs for the thoughts of another induction - is there time to talk to anyone before you go into labour to try and help you through?? Like the others have said induction can be very different - maybe writing your experience on your birth plan would highlight your fears - the MW and doctors might be wary then??? Hugs hun

Lavender - she is awesome isnt she FX she gets our genders right!!!!

didnt sleep much last night oh i am silly - i have been on a forum which is now a private FB group since my infertility before ds2 and they have offered to club together for a gender scan but the thought makes me want to be sick...but then i know its eating me up....ladies what would you do. Also i think i would need to go alone.....but that feels like i am cheating on DH i wouldnt tell him or anyone if i did go??

[Kell]

Charlie I'd go for the scan this is driving you crazy already!
I think I'd want dp there regardless but understand why you'd want to be alone.
What if you hear girl? I wouldn't be able to stop myself telling people! You'd have to pay for your own gender scan just do oh could know lol!

[chocolate]

Charlie, I will be finding out even though I said Id stay team green but thats because I really have lost hope of this one being a girl now so need to know so I can tell people to stop them going on about how nice it would be to get a girl blah blah blah. I will be going on my own as I will need that time after myself to deal with it and also want OH to look after the boys. Must be hard not knowing what to do!

Inglewood, we have a converted loft, done before we moved in, but getting proper stairs up there without going in through the room underneath and taking up loads of room may be an issue. We also have a small office downstairs we could use as a room but that will be our eldest's choice once he gets to 13. In theory if we have 4 they could all have there own room, maybe then I could squeeze in having 5 or 6............ or not lol!!

[deaks66]

Hi ladies, need to catch up on posts. Drove up to my parents yesterday to drop the kids off for two days...back home alone now :) got masses to do but gonna write a better post later :)

Charlie, pleeeease find out before you drive yourself insane or make yourself ill!

[Wishing4Pink]

Charlie and Lavender, where did your get your readings done?

I'd personally find out Charlie, i know i will for the next one as i'd drive myself insane. Big hugs, it is hard.

Hello to everyone else

x

[Inglewood]

Chocolate, ideally we would put space saving stairs in the hallway (which is teeny) as them we wouldn't have to cut off some of the 2nd bedroom to make a staircase, esp if it's not a permenant plan to stay. But they are quite pricey, around £500! Looking to find cheaper as although Dh can do most of the conversion, he would want someone to put them in properly and move the access hatch,he could close up the old hatch. And we were quoted around £1500 for 4 velux windows fitted (1 being a fire exit) Dh can do all the plasterboarding, flooring (all the joinery work). He then just needs a plasterer as my dad can do the Electrics (already lights up there and a few sockets) and my FIL is a plumber, he can fit radiators. So we'd need to get a small loan to cover costs. But prob better than losing so much £!!

Charlie, I needed to know to prepare myself this time either way and I'm sure u will know deep down what's best for u! I couldn't help myself!! Taking the boys made it so much more fun, why not make it a family day? Sure ur Dh will support u whatever u want to do.

Wishing, ur time to start TTC is fairly coming round!!!! April!

Deaks, what I would give for 2 days of peace!! ENJOY!!

After weeks of Aubergines....I now have small pumpkins!!

It's my 33rd Birthday tom and just got a gorgeous bunch of flowers from my SIL (dh's twin) as I won't be home tom. Will post a pic later on Fb to let his SIL see them. Lucky me!!! Dh slipped up 2 days ago and I knew they were coming! MEN!!!!!!!! But still lovely!

[deaks66]

Hi ladies, sorry still havent caught up on posts but i really really need some reassurance!

Went to the docs today after having my first lot of bloods done on tues afternoon. My hcg levels came back as 790. The doc seemed to think this was low and certainly in the range he showed me it does look it. However does the fact that i ov a bit late sometime between cd 18 and 20 change things? im hoping it technically makes baby younger than average cd14 ov so levels perhaps dont look so bad? On tuesday it would have been approx 17 days since conception and if i look at this website Normal hCG Levels in Pregnancy | BabyMed.com (http://www.babymed.com/normal-hcg-levels-pregnancy) .... my levels look fine. What do you reckon? feeling a but teary and not getting my next bloods done til this afternoon so have to wait til monday to talk to doc again and see how much they have risen. X

[deaks66]

Actually i think i must have been 18 or even 19 days since conception on tues so my levels do look crap :(

[Lavenderlime]

Wishing for pink a lady called Cara did our readings. She's really sweet. They're a good thread on here about readings. I've had two so far and both said girl having a third in person next week just hoping it's three out of three :)

Charlie you NEED to find out book a private scan! And i'm not just saying that because I want to know too lol!

Deaks I'm that sure about BETA's but saying that yours does look normal when looking at the chart and if implantation happened later then readings would be on the lower side. Here's hoping todays bloods have gone sky high. Will you get the results before Monday? Did the Dr. appear to be concerned or did he just state they were on the lower end, but this isn't an issue?

Inglewood Happy Birthday for tomorrow! Loft conversion does sound like the best idea financially and less disruptive than moving. Does your DH have the time to do it? Would he take time off work or would he fit it into evenings and weekends?

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ how frustrating for you hun... ((hugs)).. i don't know anything about hcg levels unfortunately so i won't be off much help. Have you got any other signs it's not a normal progressing pregnancy such as bleeding, cramps, sharp pains? please try not to worry too much, although i know that's near impossible.. sending you big hugs and keeping my fx this is your sticky bean!

charlieispy ~ i would find out personally but it's your decision at the end of the day. Do you think it will be easier to find out at birth if it's a boy? What your sonographer said to you about "if you will be dissappointed then perhaps you shouldnt find out" doesn't make any sense... imo you will dissappointed regardless but it's probably better to work through your emotions before birth if you have a very strong preference. I didnt have a very strong preference with ds2 (just wanted a healthy baby because of ds1's heart condition), but even so i still found myself dealing with emotions of GD after his birth and those are feelings i'm not proud of and they did shadow ds2's birth a bit... and i do sometimes wish i would have found out gender while pregnant with him so i could have dealt with those emotions before he was placed in my arms.

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ happy birthday for tomorrow! :) and how exciting that you'll soon know your babies birthday :D

[Sunset]

My food intake for tomorrow 16th, let me know what you think, is the broccoli OK. I find it handy to write out all I am going to eat the day before, it saves me wondering what to eat. I read somewhere on here that it is good to vary your calories to trick your body into thinking it is being deprived...

Pebmcp6's Food Diary | MyFitnessPal.com (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/pebmcp6?date=2012-02-16)

looks good although i don't know anything about the LE diet as i did the IG diet for my sway.. i think Zanacal is the person to ask ;)

[Sunset]

Sunset ~ he was 7lb 13oz, I feel massive and ready to pop already and ive got another 15 wks to go...scared this baby is going to be a biffa ;)


How big were your boys? :) 15 weeks will fly by ;)

[Sunset]

Sunset - I've got Polycystic Kidney Disease (basically cysts on my kidneys and liver) - they increase as I get older and may cause kidney failure. My Dad passed away from kidney failure but he was 80 so he had a good long life. There are different severities of PKD and I believe my family has the milder version. Just got to look after my BP and my kidney function. Nobody has ever heard of it but its apparently more common than cystic fibrosis or downs syndrome.


oh im so sorry to hear about your dad! I can honestly say i've never heard of it before :S does it affect your pregnancy?

[zanacal]

looks good although i don't know anything about the LE diet as i did the IG diet for my sway.. i think Zanacal is the person to ask ;)

It looks fine to me too - although I'm thinking there's a reason to limit cauliflower and broccoli, I'll see if I can remember why or where I read that! I'm sure you didn't eat much of it though and there are no magic foods! Have you joined the latest food thread where other ladies are sharing their daily food diaries?

[Petal]

Hi girls!!

Feel for you babymad, i know what its like to have friends with little girls, one of the friends i was shopping with sunday picked up a little frilly skirt in next and said 'aww you should dress ds3 in this'!!!! err no thanks!! and she knew i always wanted a girl too!

OMG Charlie, cant believe the sonographer wouldnt write down the sex, i think its a lovely idea!! I agree with babymad, i feel its your girl, you would have seen boys bits in a 20 week scan, especially as you were looking!!! go get a private scan :-) im dying to know!!!!!! haha.

My ds3 is poorly, he's had diarrhea for over a week now :-( took him to the docs yest and have sent off a poo sample to see what virus he has, poor boy. Hes fine in himself thou, just doing all i can to stop him getting nappy rash.

Loved OBEM last night, those little twins!!! the mum did so well, poor thing having that old man shove his hands in to pull baby out!! think id rather have a c-section :-)

How are you maybe, any signs of little Dave yet?
x

[zanacal]

Deaks - {hugs}. I've read that the important part is how quickly your levels are rising and that the level itself isn't so important, some babies just implant later/slower.

[GeCon]

It looks fine to me too - although I'm thinking there's a reason to limit cauliflower and broccoli, I'll see if I can remember why or where I read that!

I thought cauliflower you could have as much as you want (as long as it fits in with your limits), but broccoli only in limits with it being a supergreen and having too many nutrients?

[zanacal]

I thought cauliflower you could have as much as you want (as long as it fits in with your limits), but broccoli only in limits with it being a supergreen and having too many nutrients?

Yes, you're right! I think the thing I'm thinking of (which is still stuck at the back of my mind!) is relevant for boy swayers - bare with me, I'll remember it soon!

[zanacal]

Here it is - and this was on a thread aimed at boy swayers, so bare that in mind when reading!

Broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage (also called cruciferous vegetables) contain a chemical that has been shown to raise testosterone but may do so at the expense of estrogen. We want things that will boost BOTH our testosterone and our estrogen. Eating a cruciferous veggie here and there will not affect you negatively, but there is a supplement based on this chemical called DIM which we may want to stay away from.

[chocolate]

Hi ladies, sorry still havent caught up on posts but i really really need some reassurance!

Went to the docs today after having my first lot of bloods done on tues afternoon. My hcg levels came back as 790. The doc seemed to think this was low and certainly in the range he showed me it does look it. However does the fact that i ov a bit late sometime between cd 18 and 20 change things? im hoping it technically makes baby younger than average cd14 ov so levels perhaps dont look so bad? On tuesday it would have been approx 17 days since conception and if i look at this website Normal hCG Levels in Pregnancy | BabyMed.com (http://www.babymed.com/normal-hcg-levels-pregnancy) .... my levels look fine. What do you reckon? feeling a but teary and not getting my next bloods done til this afternoon so have to wait til monday to talk to doc again and see how much they have risen. X

My levels at 10 dpo were 14 and I was told probably chemical but I said implantation had prob. only just happenned.

Are they repeating tests? Hope it just takes a few more days for them to double xx

[chocolate]

Chocolate, ideally we would put space saving stairs in the hallway (which is teeny) as them we wouldn't have to cut off some of the 2nd bedroom to make a staircase, esp if it's not a permenant plan to stay. But they are quite pricey, around £500! Looking to find cheaper as although Dh can do most of the conversion, he would want someone to put them in properly and move the access hatch,he could close up the old hatch. And we were quoted around £1500 for 4 velux windows fitted (1 being a fire exit) Dh can do all the plasterboarding, flooring (all the joinery work). He then just needs a plasterer as my dad can do the Electrics (already lights up there and a few sockets) and my FIL is a plumber, he can fit radiators. So we'd need to get a small loan to cover costs. But prob better than losing so much £!!

Charlie, I needed to know to prepare myself this time either way and I'm sure u will know deep down what's best for u! I couldn't help myself!! Taking the boys made it so much more fun, why not make it a family day? Sure ur Dh will support u whatever u want to do.

Wishing, ur time to start TTC is fairly coming round!!!! April!

Deaks, what I would give for 2 days of peace!! ENJOY!!

After weeks of Aubergines....I now have small pumpkins!!

It's my 33rd Birthday tom and just got a gorgeous bunch of flowers from my SIL (dh's twin) as I won't be home tom. Will post a pic later on Fb to let his SIL see them. Lucky me!!! Dh slipped up 2 days ago and I knew they were coming! MEN!!!!!!!! But still lovely!

I think we had space saving stairs but took them down as they were in the 2nd room and needed to plaster. We could possibly create a stair way in the dressing area of our bedroom with a door to the hall to access it but means loosing our wardrobe space. Ideally though it has to be in hall area as no point having seperate rooms if they have to enter through one room. Sounds like you know handy people so should keep costs down

[maybebabythree]

Thanks for reminding me to stay positive and the induction could go well. I know they are quick and I should be grateful of a quick birth, just worried mainly about the intense pain and fear or tearing. My bf hac a super fast labour last time after a sweep and ended up with a third degree tear and had to had a blood transfusion. Ph well however it goes it will be indignifide and painful!

[Inglewood]

Deaks, try not worry. Not easy after the end of last year for you. But try stay +ve, my levels were thru the roof being twins, they didn't even tell me, so I'm no help, sorry!

Petal, sorry to hear ds3 isn't so good, the wee man. Hope the stool sample comes back clear of any bugs/viruses. I was laughing at u saying "the old man" in OBEM as dh and I both said, shouldn't he be retired!! lol How awful she had to go thru that! Another mum locally said the same thing happened to her with twins, at least she had an epidural, but said it was still very sore.

Maybe, glad ur thinking a bit more +ve, all births are different and the end outcome is good :) with babe in arms.

[Babymad]

Happy Valentines day, DP had flowers delivered to the house which really threw me! Nice though :)

Kell glad the puppies are settling hope you get more rest tonight.

Inglewood The next step with Dr's is more bloods, (day 21) We came to the conclusion that my day 16 spotting was the start of a new cycle so I had a 16 day cycle that I didn't ovulate in followed by a 30 day cycle, which I may have ovulated in. I really hope my cycle stays normal. Normal type AF besides on off lower back pain in my ovaries trying to try not to look too much into it though.

Babymad I am TTC in a big way this month I just want to be pregnant really badly now. Especially with my dodgey cycles. Also today a friend of mine who knows I'm swaying has decided that she and her husband want to TTC no2.
Our cycles are in sync and it would be amazing if we could have EDD a few days or even months appart.

So my new plan for this month is no gels which is risky but am on the same acidophilus as Deaks and Inglewood that makes your pH super low. I've been on a strict girl diet for over 4 months now even stuck to it when we went away. I also weigh the same as I did when I was about 13/14!! So hoping that is my strongest sway. I'm throwing timing out of the window and just going to DTD loads between CD 10 to O day probably even over O. But going to use an anthistamine- which one i'm not sure, any help would be great? I'm not on Cranberry Tabs anymore.

Deaks do you mean Just us mum's no Children? Where is Wells if it's not the one in Somerset?

Good luck - sounds like a great plan :)

[Babymad]

No, just the once. I don't believe timing sways at all but I wanted to make sure we DTD on the third of DH's 'releases' in a 24 hour period and he released twice a day for 10 days prior to that.

I feel massive too, hate to wish away the rest of my last pregnancy but I really am!

What did you do to get your boys? Did you do the opp this time?
Do you think lowering sperm count is important hence your freq release?

We tried freq with DS3 that's why I tried abstaining this time and bd after ov.....along with diet, amazing how it works for most but not all.

I feel massive too - really struggling with my breathing which is really getting me down. I long for the next 15-17 weeks to go quickly!!

[Babymad]

How big were your boys? :) 15 weeks will fly by ;)

I bloody hope so :)
First two boys were 8lb 1oz and my third was 9lb 5oz!! Hoping this one isnt too big!

[Babymad]

Charlie ~ I'm not sure what to suggest....I'm not the best one to advise really as I've really struggled since finding out but I know I definitely saw a willy and that's not the case for you so you have no reason to think its a boy like I did. I wanted to go to the scan on my own as needed to be on my own after....I hope you manange to decide what is right for you, don't rush yourself xx

Pinga ~ I'm having bad days and ok days so just trying to do my best to be honest. I feel very drained at the moment...when do the tears stop!!

Petal ~ hope your little man is better soon hugs xx

Inglewood ~ I thought the woman with twins did really well and how fab to give birth naturally. So they were so sweet!
Happy Birthday for tomorrow, have a lovely day x

Deaks ~ I hope your numbers have doubled Hun, try not to panic too much yet, even though I know that's really hard xx

Off for a drink tonight with girlfriends, need a glass of wine, DS3 has been hard work this week!

[Inglewood]

Z and Babymad, I did freq release too this time (for just over a week), as ds2 was def from abstaining, well we hadn't bd for almost 2wks.

Babymad, my boys were 9lbs 1oz and 8lbs 5oz (early section, or he would of been big too) so thinking even tho I am having 2, I reckon over 7lbs each!!! hate feeling breathless, I have about 6lbs of babies already!!

[charlieispy]

thanks ladies for putting up with me and my stressing and yes babymad i am an overworrier BIG TIME lol

Well i booked a scan................its not till 13th march though I ended up going for a 4dscan after school so the boys can come too. I will ask for the gender to be writtten down and then read it at home - if i want to LOL

Babymad - i have the breathlessness thing already x hugs its horrid - i think once you notice it though you then are aware so its harder to breathe and you almost have a mini panic attack. Somedays seem better than others x x

inglewood - happy birthday for tomorrow hope you have a lovely day x



Deaks - HUG HUG HUGs for your blood results firstly YES o-ing late will make a big difference to what your levels should be and the important part is that they double in 48hrs, many people with low hcg go on to have healthy babies not that you will stop worrying i know that x try and stay positive FX FX FX for that next result to come back doulbed or tripled!

[Babymad]

Has the MW said how big your babies are Inglewood? I think it will be better to have 'bigger' babies as theres two so at least you havent got the worry of them being too small.
What are your plans for tomorrow?

Charlie ~ sounds like you are happy with your decision, is DH going to? What does he think to finding out? I hate the breathing problems, I had really bad asthma with ds3 and ended up bring rushed to hosp with an asthma attack - it was horrible :( I feel like im being suffocated!
I climb the stairs and feel like im going to pass out!
Hope yours doesnt get too bad x

[chocolate]

Charlie - Yay for scan!

Inglewood- enjoy your birthday, hope you get spoilt!


Im seriously considering going high tech for number 4, if I know I can go down that route then I can just get on with enjoying this pregnancy and my boys without keep thinking about not having a daughter. Think OH is a bit shocked about the amount of money, but if we carry on working and saving as we are then we can afford it, and still have time after to build up extra savings that is ours to splurge on or save as we will have enough for the house diy and general savings.
I didnt think Id seriously consider going HT but I dont think I can do this swaying again for number 4 knowing 4 is my last chance and for the sake of spending some money on IVF instead of clothes and cafe trips over a few years then we could do it.

Do I sound mad lol? One minute Im fine with all boys but the next Im thinking, no Im not letting go of this daughter dream until Ive tried all routes, sigh!!

On another note, Im only just over 11 weeks and sure Im feeling little tickles where baby is! Talk about slack muscles lol

[zanacal]

What did you do to get your boys? Did you do the opp this time?
Do you think lowering sperm count is important hence your freq release?

We tried freq with DS3 that's why I tried abstaining this time and bd after ov.....along with diet, amazing how it works for most but not all.

I feel massive too - really struggling with my breathing which is really getting me down. I long for the next 15-17 weeks to go quickly!!

I think lowering sperm count was as important as diet/maternal condition for us. With the boys we DTD every couple of days around the middle of my cycle but when I asked DH for the low-down it appears he was probably releasing on the days we weren't DTD too! Abstaining wasn't an option for us because he couldn't/wouldn't do it and I wouldn't do it with him being over 35 and the slightly higher risk of birth defects anyway. It was actually his idea to release twice every day (yeah, what a sacrifice!). We got pregnant really easily with boys even though DH was releasing very regularly so I suspect he has a very high sperm count - even this time I got pregnant with one shot after all that releasing and an immediate jump and dump! I didn't try to do the opposite to what we did before, just read as much as I could and decided what made most sense to me and what felt right.

I rather enjoyed my other pregnancies but I'm so wishing this one away. I know I shouldn't but if I was 10 weeks further down the line I'd be happy! That's so scary that you had an asthma attack when you were pregnant. For me I'm sure alot of it is psychological. Like Deaks said, the more I think about it the more I can't breathe!

[maybebabythree]

Chocolate if I was to have another I would do high tech. Really happy with three boys and defiantly only have a fourth purely to get a dd. However not sure I want four kids as we only ever talked about three. I think you need to set aside enough money for three goes and be prepared for it to fail and be happy to lose 20k. For me it's not so much that money but the change in my life style. I would have to move, give birth around 40 and less time for the things I want. I think I'm not that in love with idea of a girl for that - but never say never :-)

[maybebabythree]

Good luck deeks. My fertility tests said we would never another baby but here I am all the same x

[Kell]

Happy birthday for tomorrow inglewood!

Chocolate a girl on another forum I use has found HT for around 5
£5000 euros in north Greece. She lives over there and when I said I was swaying she said she'd consider swaying but then found gender selection for that price and think she's saving for that now, tbh I'd definatly have considered it myself!

Babymad enjoy your night with the girls! I've not done it in do long! Altho me my mum and sister are all going out for dinner and drinks this weekend as my mum is visiting for a few days, she lives 350 miles away so wanna see her properly to chat without kids!!

[Kell]

Deaks hope everything's ok! Low levels is fine, the important thing is that the figure doubles over 2 days :)

[pebmcpd7]

It looks fine to me too - although I'm thinking there's a reason to limit cauliflower and broccoli, I'll see if I can remember why or where I read that! I'm sure you didn't eat much of it though and there are no magic foods! Have you joined the latest food thread where other ladies are sharing their daily food diaries?

Hi Zanacal where is the lastest thread I can't find it!!!!

[GeCon]

Hi Zanacal where is the lastest thread I can't find it!!!!

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/8084-february-pink-food-thread-8.html :)

[pebmcpd7]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/8084-february-pink-food-thread-8.html :)

Found it thanks, I have already wrote on it, I get lost where I wrote, it would be so handy if you got a notification when someone replied to your post...

[Sunset]

Morning ladies! it's 4am and i'm up with a little baby who thinks this is the perfect time to play *zZz*

Inglewood ~ Happy Birthday!!! hope you have a lovey day!! x

Petal ~ oh no, i'm sorry to hear your little boy is poorly. Hope he feels better soon! My ds2 is very poorly with a tummy bug at the moment too and he's been throwing up and suffering from bad diarrhea :( trying to get him to keep fluids down at the moment but even that is proving a struggle :(

Babymad ~ wow 9lbs! was he late or on time(ish)?

Zanacal ~ oh no, don't wish it away! i did because i was so scared of something going wrong during my pregnancy and now i wish i wouldn't have. try and enjoy it as much as possible :)

Charlieispy ~ you are very brave for booking the scan! i cant wait to hear your pink news (if you decide to read the envelope) did you find out gender in your previous pregnancies?

Maybebaby ~ woop woop 37 weeks! full term!! :bluecheer: are you excited? is it starting to feel real that you will soon meet Dave? ;) have you got the hospital bag packed?

[chocolate]

Happy birthday for tomorrow inglewood!

Chocolate a girl on another forum I use has found HT for around 5
£5000 euros in north Greece. She lives over there and when I said I was swaying she said she'd consider swaying but then found gender selection for that price and think she's saving for that now, tbh I'd definatly have considered it myself!

Babymad enjoy your night with the girls! I've not done it in do long! Altho me my mum and sister are all going out for dinner and drinks this weekend as my mum is visiting for a few days, she lives 350 miles away so wanna see her properly to chat without kids!!

Hiya kell, could you message me the forum details and her user name so I can try to find out some more? From this site its anticipated about 10 grand including the holiday, then reduced for the next cycle. I'd save up enough for 3 or 4 cycles I think.

[Kell]

Chocolate this is the clinic Gender Selection (Family Balancing) in Cyprus (http://www.dogusivfcentre.com/en/15/gender-selection-in-cyprus) I've read some very good feed back on ivf there, I can still send you the details of the forum anyway if you interested Its not a gd site.

[Kell]

Happy birthday inglewood!! :cheerteam: have a great day! :)

[charlieispy]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY inglewood x x

Hugs to all those poorly LO's :( hope they are better soon hate it when kiddies are ill x x

Pregnancy brain moment - messed up scan booking i booked 13th DH is off 20th so trying to rearrange at mo silly mare! Have also asked for the gender to be written down - we are all going FX I can rebook i think having the boys there will take my mind off it all just got to wait another 4wks now!

Maybe - FULL TERM yay not long now hun x i know you can do this make sure you tell people you are nervous or what you are worried about sometimes we keep it inside and if they know they might be able to make it easier and a better experience x x

[Inglewood]

Babymad, I estimated that if they continue to put on around 8oz-up to 1lb a week till my section they will be anything between 6.5-7.5lbs each! At 36wks! Which is good!! but heavy......Will get a weight estimate every 2wks, when I go on tues, betcha they are well over 3lbs each!! Hope ur asthma doesn't return like that!! what a scare.... Do u have asthma usually?

Deaks, hope ur ok? when do get repeat bloods?

Z, not long...ur almost 3rd trimester!! It's awful tho, I wished my pg with ds2 away as it was awful, so far this pg is ok in comparison.....so far.............

Thanks for all the birthday wishes!! 33 today! Waiting for a friend to quickly pop in then my mum and I having lunch in town. Ds1 has a dress rehersal for his cub show and ds2 starts tennis tonight, so tom we will go out for tea and maybe see The Muppets?? Got some lovely Boots Sanctuary Mum to be smelly stuff from Dh and boys, with chocs and more of my fab eye cream for all my bags and dark circles I've got for 9ys of nightshift!! lol

Off to dry my hair! Catch up later. xx

[charlieispy]

sounds lovely inglewood - kept meaning to say how amazing you look in the photos of your 4dscan day!! Cant believe you are preggy with twins and look that lovely!! You are definitely blooming x

Boys - plus DH are off to see muppets later ds3 and I get to go into town post parcels then off for some charity shop shopping FX for some lovely finds want some fabric - got a belated xmas present of a cath kidston patch book its awesome going to make a wee quilt for the baby :D

[Wishing4Pink]

Happy Birthday Inglewood!! Sounds like your being spoilt, best way, lol.

Can't believe our quick the months have past. Need to start thinking when i start my diet, won't be the next couple of weeks as we're eventually moving next friday at last. Going to get a ph tester this time, so need to get that ordered. Then decided my which way to sway.

I hope all these poorly boys get better soon.

x

[maybebabythree]

Happy birthday inglewood x

Sunset my bag was packed about 30 weeks but it's totally sorted now after my stay in hospital! Been getting some twinges but keeping that to myself. Seeing the midwife at 1.30 for a bp check but will have both boys so expect it to be high!

Looking forward to holding dave but not pushing him out!

Trying to distract myself with a mad plan to buy another house as we need to to get a mortage that finishes before we retire so if we are going to up the mortage it needs to be in the next two years and a twenty year one. Plus then there is no money for ivf and no temptation to keep having kids lol!

[deaks66]

Hi all, sorry i feel like im being very selfish to the group at the moment. Wrapped up in my own little fretting bubble and only seem to come on here for a whinge..im so sorry! Fretting that the blood results that come back today will either come back so low that there is no hope or just quite low which seems to heavily suggest boy from the trillion forums i have researched! Thought i had delt with my gd quite a bit, but perhaps i havent. Its awful to be thinking about number 4 when i dont even know what this one is let alone give it a chance to be loved and wanted! Anyway fx for lovely high hcg level results!

Inglewood, happy birthday! We must have been born in the same year...i am 33 in oct! Hope you have a lovely time tonight!

Maybe, i cant believe you are nearly there! lets hope those twinges are the start of something good!

Chocolate, i so know how you feel about all this. Perhaps we will do pgd together for our number 4's!

Charlie, excited for your scan. I wander how long you will hold out opening that envelope!

Hi everyone else. oooh and lavender yes its wells next the sea and yes i reckon mums on there own could be a great idea! saying that if no kids come we could go somewhere more convienent as we wouldnt necessrily need the beach to occupy the kids! Just a thought!

X

[chocolate]

Thanks for the link Kell

Deaks, know where you are coming from. Thinking about pgd has made me happier and will celebrate this little baby and pregnancy more, its taken away that shadow and allowed me to just enjoy this one. I do wish I could just learn to deal with the issue of no girl, but if there are other ways of getting that girl then I want to try that for our last child first.

Hi everyone else, I do read all the replies and reply in my head but I have the memory of a goldfish lol

[GeCon]

Happy Birthday, Inglewood. Hope you are having a fab day!

[charlieispy]

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n151/charlieispy/utf-8BSU1HODY4LmpwZw.jpg

Baby Button exactly 20wks

Boy Girl who bloody knows LOL

[zanacal]

I read a thread on here saying that the North Cyprus clinic has had no success with gender selection IVF. Here it is if anybody's interested:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/high-tech-family-balancing-public-forum/7638-dogus-north-cyprus-anygood.html

Happy Birthday Inglewood!

Cute photo Charlie :D

[zanacal]

I'm not sure if that post is in the private forums but I also just saw this thread offering a free trial to the private HT forums!

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/high-tech-family-balancing-public-forum/8496-free-trial-ht-member-forum-access.html

[maybebabythree]

Genesis in Cyprus sounds like the place to go. They had some results back when I looked on ig

Deaks please moan away! I hope your results are good!

I am in killer mood. Took boys for a lovely lunch, had a great time but I am just so arsey (keeping it inside so boys are ok) I don't know why. Nothing has upset me. I just want to crawl into a hole. Blardy hormones

[chocolate]

cute baby charlie!!

Zanacal, I read that, think for us it will be Genesis, will look at that link as thought it was just the normal membership I already have but may not be

Maybebabythree, hormones suck, Im always easily irritated in pregnancy lol

[zanacal]

I think you're ok if you're a dream member chocolate :D

[deaks66]

How does it work for genesis then? On the website i couldnt find any details about how long the process takes or any accomodation details like i could for the north cypus one.

Thanks for letting me have a moan. Feeling better about my levels as even though i havent had my result from yesterday back i found this website http://www.babymed.com/tools/hcg-calculator and basically my 18 or 19dpo (not sure which it was) level of 780 looks higher than the max for 18dpo (758) and between the max and average for 19dpo if you hover over the blue line on the graph. Just shows how incompetant my doctors surgery is when he let me leave thinking my pg was looking bad just because he didnt think to ask me if i possibly ov late instead of the 14 days average. Instead he worked out my dates from my LMP. Annoying!

Viewed the old farmhouse with a builder and structural engineer this afternoon and neither could see any major nasties so the renovation costs are looking not too bad. Got a very interested couple viewing our house tomorrow even though its not officially on the market yet so hoping we may be able to make an offer next week. Need to be extra nice to dh as he is in charge of the figures!

Hope you all have a nice fri eve...i've got a takeaway heading my way :)

Charlie, bubs is gorg!

Chocolate, sounds like a plan to give yourself something to take the pressure off this pregnancy. And you never know there could easily be a girl in there or if it is a boy, you might feel your family is complete anyway :)

Maybe, i expect you are in a killer mood cos you a carrying a great big bump around. The last stages are so tiring. Try and have a relaxing weekend...i hope dp is there to take the load.

X

[chocolate]

How does it work for genesis then? On the website i couldnt find any details about how long the process takes or any accomodation details like i could for the north cypus one.

Thanks for letting me have a moan. Feeling better about my levels as even though i havent had my result from yesterday back i found this website HCG Calculator and hCG Level Tool | BabyMed.com (http://www.babymed.com/tools/hcg-calculator) and basically my 18 or 19dpo (not sure which it was) level of 780 looks higher than the max for 18dpo (758) and between the max and average for 19dpo if you hover over the blue line on the graph. Just shows how incompetant my doctors surgery is when he let me leave thinking my pg was looking bad just because he didnt think to ask me if i possibly ov late instead of the 14 days average. Instead he worked out my dates from my LMP. Annoying!

Viewed the old farmhouse with a builder and structural engineer this afternoon and neither could see any major nasties so the renovation costs are looking not too bad. Got a very interested couple viewing our house tomorrow even though its not officially on the market yet so hoping we may be able to make an offer next week. Need to be extra nice to dh as he is in charge of the figures!

Hope you all have a nice fri eve...i've got a takeaway heading my way :)

Charlie, bubs is gorg!

Chocolate, sounds like a plan to give yourself something to take the pressure off this pregnancy. And you never know there could easily be a girl in there or if it is a boy, you might feel your family is complete anyway :)

Maybe, i expect you are in a killer mood cos you a carrying a great big bump around. The last stages are so tiring. Try and have a relaxing weekend...i hope dp is there to take the load.

X

Deaks that's it, it takes the pressure off, we could have a girl although doubt it, and yes I may decide after all that I feel we are complete, just allows me to enjoy this little one more, like I should be.

I have found most of the info about genesis on the ht boards, think you can get pre-testing in the UK then fly out and stay somewhere locally, villa or hotel, near by and stay for 10 days. Think you book flights and accommodation separately.

Enjoy take away, we had chinese, although cant seem to eat that much in one go anymore.

Good luck with the house business xx

[chocolate]

ps - yeah some drs seem so dumb when they dont ask if you ovulated late or anything, I have to explain at each scan that I ovulated day 21 so am 7 days behind, and said to the nurse on the phone about my 14 hcg reading that I ovulated late so am not far along, she still said sounds like a chemical to which I said Im sure it has only just implanted.
I used a hcg doubling timer calculator when I had my results back so may be worth googling that and having it ready to put results into to see how often they double. Showed mine doubled every 21 hours so was catching back up fast :-)

[deaks66]

ps - yeah some drs seem so dumb when they dont ask if you ovulated late or anything, I have to explain at each scan that I ovulated day 21 so am 7 days behind, and said to the nurse on the phone about my 14 hcg reading that I ovulated late so am not far along, she still said sounds like a chemical to which I said Im sure it has only just implanted.
I used a hcg doubling timer calculator when I had my results back so may be worth googling that and having it ready to put results into to see how often they double. Showed mine doubled every 21 hours so was catching back up fast :-)

Yeah i think that could be the calculator i stumbled on too! did you get a second hcg level to use the calculator with after your 14 level then? Great news that they doubled every 21 hours!

Thanks for info on genesis! Definately something to bear in mind and although it seems a massive thing, i expect that once the money is saved up (how much is it at that one roughly?), the process is quite straight forward.

[chocolate]

Yes I had 2 tests and was relieved they doubled every 21 hours and suspected twins but only 1 lol.

I think I was told between £7k and £10k for treatment and holiday accommodation/flights, and a reduced 2nd cycle if the 1st fails. Alot of money if I want to save enough for 4 cycles but worth it

[Babymad]

Happy Birthday Inglewood! X

Deaks ~ Don't be too hard on yourself re the GD stuff, I posted when ttc that I wasnt sure whether to carry on as I couldn't do the diet 100% after being on it for 6 mths and I wasn't sure if I would be ok with another boy....as time went on I really wanted a baby not just a girl but look at me now struggling with it all....not for the first time either! We are only human so don't beat yourself up about it x Hope your bloods are all good xx

Chocolate and Deaks ~ I went to Dogus in Cyprus for PDG. Genesis has better results. I would consider the USA if you are going for hi-tech as their results are excellent. I have three hi-tech friends all due from now to when I'm due, obviously thrilled for them but still really hurts that we lost our little girl. I keep daydreaming that we will win the lottery so we can do PDG in the US and live happily ever after!

Kell ~ Enjoyed my night out, needed it to be honest! Hope you have a fab time too x

Sunset ~ my boys have all been late and I have been induced at 42 weeks with two so expecting the same this time round too!

Inglewood ~ I reckon they will be fab sizes :) I think I will stalk you when they are born so I can have cuddles! :)

Charlie ~ Hope you get your date sorted!


Hi to anyone I have missed x

Had one of those days today where you feel like a shit mum!! DH is in hospital as he's had an operation on his nose so I been worried about him. Had no time to play with boys....had loads of jobs to do and felt like all I've done all day is shout and moan, feel awful :( I've got no patience at the moment and DS3 is testing the boundaries!!
Hoping tomorrow is a better day for everyone!

Should be alseep - night all xxx

[GeCon]

Inglewood, please tell us more about this magic eye cream. ;)

[Inglewood]

Morning all, Thanks for all the lovely birthday wishes! Had a nice day, lunch with my mum was nice and then after Cubs and Tennis, I got a HUGE choc b'day cake and then Dh and I had a chinese take-away (which wasn't actually nice :( usually is from there, was cold) but quiet night in front of Tv. Ds1 has a friend over soon, so maybe tomorrow b4 we get to the cinema.

GeCon, the eyecream has been the best (for me) and believe me I have tried lots over the past 9yrs!!!!! From £5-50!! This is from the Bodyshop it's £9.50 and called Vit E eyecream. It's a teeny wee pink tube, but last ages!! I went for a half price facial months ago at my hairdresser's and the woman there recommended it. So far it's helped alot!

Deaks, how exciting things are for u! New home (designed by u) and a new baby! busy times, a bit like me!! Well, a few of us are renovating and pg!! lol

Babymad, hope ur DH recovers well. As a teenager I had alot of sinus op's and wasn't nice but well worth it, hope he's doing well? Sure the boys were none the wiser that u were a bit stressed, today is another day for them and they soon forget what happened 2hrs ago nevermind yest!! (bit like me at the mo). You are a fab mum and sometimes I think we are too hard on ourselves for nothing. Glad u had a great night out! Stalk away too! Wish we could all have a wee cuddle of each of these new babies due over the next few mths (and our 2 new babies here)!!

I wish I could meet u all in Wells, but it's so so far for me, about 7 hours (about 360 miles?) Dh prob wouldn't come with me and it's a long way with 2 babies :( will be so envious of u all!! My oldest friend gets married beg june and I'm heart broken not to be able to go and I was possibly going to be bridesmaid (she wasn't sure if she could afford it after her 3 sisters). I've never been one before, tbh mainly as many of my friends are gay and the rest aren't married. It's about 4hrs away in an amazing Highland resort in the West coast and her 'Dh to be' has banned kids going (which I can understand) as he has tons of babies/kids in his family and he doesn't want them spoiling things, so she can't invite kids either! I couldn't ask my mum to look after 6wk old twins and I couldn't leave them anyway at that age, so can't go! Dh's neice puked on the carpet right next to my wedding cake after sneaking tablet from the dessert trolley (she was 18mths), so that was fun! I didn't mind having the kids there! Well, my ds1 was there and he was 2. So missing out on alot this summer, but SO SO worth it!!!

That's ds1's friend here, so they want to go out on skateboards and ds2 wants to make choc crispy cakes, so will pop on later...enjoy ur sat ladies...xx

[Lavenderlime]

Just popping in to say hello, Catch up later.

[Sunset]

Evening ladies just popping on real quick to say hello! :) hope you're all busy enjoying your weekend :)

Deaks ~ when will you get your blood results back?

Inglewood ~ where in scotland do you live?

where exactly is this Wells place we're meeting at? :)

[charlieispy]

Norfolk x between hunstanton and great yarmouth however if no kids could choose somewhere easier!

[Inglewood]

Sunset, I'm on the West coast about 35miles from Glasgow. x

Wells by the sea looks lovely! Only ever been to Yarmouth, many many yrs ago with an old BF!

[Kell]

Hey!

Hope everyone's well!

Inglewood my mums on the east coast, not far from Edinburgh, she's actually here visiting us at the moment, haven't seen her since October :( I went out for a lovely meal last night and a few drink, I was nearly falling asleep at the table at 10:30 lol
My stupid eyes have flared up AGAIN!

I'm all finishes work now, quite glad actually as I can now relax and concerntrate on college work.

The puppies are good, they are a week old nearly and have more than doubled in weight and size! They are noisy little things, I was up 3 times last night sorting them out, between that and the constant peeing of a night I'm shattered! All good practise a guess.

A meet would be lovely but I'm thinking I may be a little too pregnant at that time.

Ds1 has gone snowboarding with his dad for a week, it was horrible saying good bye, I wanted to cry but managed to compose myself as I was at the ex's front door with his girlfriends family peering thought the door at me!

[Kell]

Aww I got a sweetpotato now! At first glance with my dodgy eyes I thought it was a slice of pizza lmao!

[deaks66]

Hi all,

Kell, im not surprised those pups keeping you awake... my dog was several weeks older when we first bought her home and she was still a noisy little tike! Mind you that was more her crying as she missed her mum :( bless.

Sunset, i get my results tomorrow. Docs supposed to be calling me at 10.30 but think i may call first thing as desperate to know how much and how quickly my levels have increased! On a good note, definately feeling queasy today and had small boughts of it yesterday and the other day so think hormones definately kicking in :)

Babymad, how are you hun? is dh home yet? dont be hard on yourself, you are DEFINATELY NOT a bad mum! You are having to deal with alot and like someone else said (inglewood i think), the boys wont remember if you have a off day...or loads of off days even! You arent superhuman and you will be able to make it up to them at another time. Sending you a massive hug X

Pinga and maybe pink...how are you two doing? I hope things are starting to get a little easier!

Hi everyone else! Lavender, hope and dreams...when are you next attempts?

[maybebabythree]

Kell - lol at your pizza baby! Hmm Ben and jerrys baby would be nice here.

My oldest chum came up yesterday with her dd who is 18 months. She kept on saying I am having a girl. Had a bit of sulk when she left but luckily these moments pass fast for me.

Chocolate I am the same with the ivf as it means never say never. But really think I will complete after dave. Plus dh won't talk about it till he is here. Plus with my bp playing up he really is less keen than ever to try again. I would be 38 39 as well and my eggs are more than past there best before!

Honestly this sounds mad but if I was to start the menopause I would be so so happy as it's forces that door shut. I hate that 'but what if I was too ...' feeling. Because there is also a 'what if I blew 30k on ivf and didnt get pg? Surely that would hurt even more than not trying?

Basically as we all know these feelings just suck. Just even thinking about it makes me guilty

[chocolate]

Kell, ha ha see what you mean about pizza, Im hungry now though lol

Deaks, def. ring first thing, great for sickness, but sucks!

Maybebabythree, I know what you mean about loosing 30k, its only worth it if you get a girl out of it, Id want to keep trying to make the money worth it but havent got that sort of money to keep trying. Sometimes when I look at just the holiday of going to cyprus I think wow, never thought to go abroad, how cool would that be to take the 3 boys every year. We could use that money to go on a hot holiday each year instead of IVF, very hard! I dont know, for now we will save for it but I think nearer the time I would probably feel content with what I have and would rather put the money to other uses like deposits for the kids first homes, but then if IVF worked in 2 cycles then we would have time to save up for that too after wards. If the IVF we would sway 1 last time for number 4. I dont know if we would consider swaying first for number 4 then consider IVF for number 5, but if twins could mean 6 kids and we only ever said 3 or 4.
Im driving myself mad, need my scan next Saturday to hurry up!

[chocolate]

ha ha check out my horoscope: Home is highlighted in a week that finds you surrounded by happy domestic bustle. There's a lot of help around you, while a creative project is rewarding and wellbeing fills your heart!

So funny, this probably means: you will find out bubs is a boy and you will have support around you and your high teck project will bring wellbeing ha ha ha

[Sunset]

Norfolk x between hunstanton and great yarmouth however if no kids could choose somewhere easier!

Wells looks lovely but it's a good few hours car journey from where i live. depending on when the meet is i might have to bring serena since i'm breastfeeding.

[Sunset]

Sunset, i get my results tomorrow. Docs supposed to be calling me at 10.30 but think i may call first thing as desperate to know how much and how quickly my levels have increased! On a good note, definately feeling queasy today and had small boughts of it yesterday and the other day so think hormones definately kicking in :)


sounds very promising! good luck tomorrow, i'll be keeping my fx you get some good news! :)

[Sunset]

Sunset, I'm on the West coast about 35miles from Glasgow. x


shame it's so far away! would have love to come visit you otherwise :)

[charlieispy]

Hi all

Hope you have had a lovely weekend x x DH went back to work today after a week off :( lovely having him home the boys adore him and as they rarely see him in just a week their relationship has got even stronger. Indy is loving him so so much!! Now i have a hardcore week LOL so busy x our beast is in the garage tomorrow too so FX its the low estimate we end up paying not the top!!!

How are you all though?

Deaks FX for tomorrow am working but will check as soon as i finish x

Scan is DEFINITELY booked for the 20th god I will be wishing those 4 weeks away until the day then pooping my pants. I think as i didnt see obvious willy I am more hopeful for a girl which scares me as I will then be crushed!! Bloody GD is pants lol x

Must got do baths hairwashes then pizza then bed :D

Kell -my mum got her puppy today she is beautiful - pedigree black lab they have called her millicent (millie) and her pedigree is love is in paris! did make me puppy broody but i remember how hard it was when lucyliu was a pup - worse than a newborn hope you manage to get some rest!!!

[Inglewood]

Hi everyone was dreading missing 2 days worth of posts and trying to remember what was said by the time I come to post!! lol but it's been quiet....

Kell, my DH is an east coaster, nice over there. Lovely to have ur mum around!

Deaks, hope u got ur results ok??? Will keep checking. xx

Sunset, that would of been nice, but I'm so far from any of you! :(

I got a horrible letter from Child Tax credit office today saying I earn too much to continue to get the whole £38 tax credit I get each month and as from April I will get nowt! With the 2 babies coming I still won't get 1 extra penny!!!!!! They have removed the 'baby' element of the child tax credit after telling me I would get it (was £100-ish per mth for both of them, not each, till they were 1yr old) I don't even earn that much (2 nights per wk) and dh is part-time too (30hrs). So pissed off, this Government are a joke!! I was hoping that it would help while I was on half pay... STRESS!!

On a plus, should find out my babies birthday tomorrow! Can't believe I am 30wks on thurs!!! so excited.

[Lavenderlime]

Inglewood I feel for you child Tax credit is a massive load of crap such a stupid system. I only work 10-15 Hours a week and I get £10 a week child tax credit when I wasn't working I think I got about £50. It's only really worth working when I end up staying late and the tips are good. I can't believe you are getting nothing! Can't you appeal?

We've had a busy weekend leveling the back garden and breaking up concrete ready to lay slabs, also exposing pipework as were having a new bathroom fitted in few weeks and some of the plumbing needs re-jigging. I've also decided to re-do ds2's room even though it was only done about a year ago. I've got him a lovely little cast iron victorian dormetory bed. Just need to sell his boat bed! I've also been painting some new chest of drawers for his room and scouting around for material to make get a quilt made So been busy, busy.

Deaks how did it go at the dr.s?

[chocolate]

Charlie hope today hasnt been too manic, always feels it when the OH's go back to work after having time off, my boys also hardly see there dad in the week, maybe for 2 hours so weekends count although he has been a miserable sod this weekend and moans about having to do anything so needs a kick up the bum lol.

Inglewood that sucks, so annoying when you budget for what you have been told. We get about £38 a month too but OH has been doing so much over time that we will loose that from April time.

Lavenderlime, we are slowly re-doing our house, Im leaving the downstairs room till last as I know I will change my mind over the decor in 3 years time if we do it now!

Deaks, really hope you got some good hcg level results today xx

[Lavenderlime]

Deaks hope everything is ok? x

[Kell]

Thinking of you Deaks x

[deaks66]

Hi all, just a quicky as got a friend here all day! Doc still hasnt got my results but when he called i mentioned to him about my late ov and he agreed that that would definately after my hcg level. FX reult in tomorrow! Will catch up later with you all but thanks for the thoughts :) X

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ this government is crap to put it lightly! one of my best friends who also is swedish made the mistake to apply for income support last year (she's lived in the uk for 5 years) and because of this she has now lost her right to reside in the uk and they've took her child benefit off her and is now demanding her to repay all the child benefits she's received since april last year.. i just don't get it, her boy was born here so to deny her child benefits simply because she applied for income support is ridiculous in my eyes! and all this just because she's not in a relationship with a uk man (her fiance is from brazil)...

Deaks ~ have you got the results back?

AFM i've been a worried mama today as Serena is poorly and has a chest infection :( she's been given antibiotics to take for a week, so hopefully she'll feel better soon

[zanacal]

Aww, poor little Serena. It's awful but inevitable that they get ill so little when there are big brothers or sisters in the house. Caleb had chicken pox when he was 2 months old! I'll bet your mummy milk will get her better quickly :D

FX for good results tomorrow Deaks!

We will stop getting child benefit from April because DH earns (just!) over the higher tax bracket. I have nothing against means tested benefits but this one makes absolutely no sense to me at all - we would get nothing even if I wasn't working but if he earnt a little bit less and I also worked full time we'd earn far more AND get our child benefit. They need to look at joint household income but I guess they know they'd mess up the administration of that!

[chocolate]

Ah poor serena, hope they kick in quickly! Deaks hope they are in first thing, hate waiting for results. Inglewood, are u sure the benefit for child benefit isn't from april 2013? My oh has earnt over the 44k or whatever it is bracket this year but only because he has done months of over-time, but like you say, 2 couples could earn 39k each and bring in a lot more than one who earns 44k and the wife earning 6k or not working, madness!

[zanacal]

I thought it was 2012 but I hope I'm wrong! It's my DH's benefits (car etc.) which take him over the threshold.

[zanacal]

You're right, it's 2013 - yay!

[chocolate]

Glad we have an extra year, OH is due a small payrise and if he does over-time like he is now Ill loose the benefit so OH will owe me lol.