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Flamingo911
October 25th, 2020, 01:16 PM
Hi everyone,
I have been researching for so long until I found this wensite and oh my god! Its been amazing!! but I was hesitant to post until now, the amount if information is great but overwhelming sometimes, I have two boys 3 and 1 and went through one ectopic pregnancy and two pregnancy losses. I have hypothyroid and PCOS so Im on synthroid and I work out regularly to keep my weight in check (I shouldn’t apparently to get a girl), my period are all over the place if I ever get a period (I conceived my two kids with femara and cycle monitoring at the clinic), my question is: I really would love to increase my sway for a girl and this will probably be our last baby, I have weaned my son about a month ago, I bought magnesium calcium supplements and was going to start that in addition to metformin for my pcos (doctor recommended 1000 a day), what else do you think I should do? Should I stop working out all together? And will femara ruin my chances of conceiving a girl? How long should I wait till we try since I just weaned my son (my lactation horomone was high) , is low everything diet the best thing in my case? Any supplements recommendations? Im willing to go above and beyond to try my best for a girl (I think it would be good for the boys too to have a sister 😊)
Thank you so much!
atomic sagebrush
October 25th, 2020, 03:19 PM
HI and welcome! I know it seems like a lot at first but we wanted to make a clearinghouse of all the different sway tactics in one spot. Any time you're confused, just ask, ask, ask, it's what I'm here for is to help you guys navigate it all.
I am a little confused why you think you shouldn't work out and keep your weight in check to get a girl?? Exercise and losing weight OR staying in low-normal BMI range are among our strongest sway tactics. Can you shed some light on what exactly you read that led you to that conclusion?
Anyone with PCOS needs to exercise even if it's only moderate. Please continue with that. The benefits to blood sugar control are so massive they outweigh any risks of possibly building muscle (which you won't if you don't gain weight while eating a lot of protein anyway).
Femara has been shown in a very good study to sway pink about 5%. Coupled with other sway tactics, Femara is among the best of the best sway tactics there is. Even though you got boys on it in the past, along with an overall pink sway it will only help.
I want you on our alternate sway diet (which has better results than the standard LE Diet anyway) and you can find that here: (just ignore the info at the top and scroll down a few posts to where we get into the diet stuff) https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html
Calcium/magnesium I personally don't believe in (the science overall does not support it, and I got boys on it myself) but I understand many people want to use them. As long as it doesn't have added Vitamin D, that's ok, but if they do have added Vit. D you need to find something that does not have the Vit. D. it seems to sway strongly blue when taken as a supplement.
The Metformin is GREAT for pink. I would not have you take anything other than folic acid if you're on the Metformin.
I would start trying as soon as you've had 12 weeks on diet.
Flamingo911
October 25th, 2020, 09:53 PM
Thank you so much for the quick reply! I will read it thoroughly, Im running 5 times a week for 30mins so I hope that doesnt affect my sway too much. Im also taking iron and vitamin D because they are very low and I was worried having both low might affect my fertility. But we will see. I will do the diet as strictly as possible for 3 months then begin the ttc journey. Wish me luck!
atomic sagebrush
October 27th, 2020, 12:13 PM
Please continue doing that as the benefit to blood sugar control is huge for you.
If you are low in something you should take it. It's only people who are already getting enough that need to skip the nutrients. You may want to take them daily for 6-8 weeks then go to 3x a week maintenance dose if your levels are back up.
Good luck and pink dust headed your way!
Flamingo911
January 9th, 2021, 12:43 AM
Hi Atomic!
Can you please check my work so far if its good enough so we start ttc this month hopefully. I have been doing 1500-1700 cals a day and skipping breakfast only thing I would have in morning is probably coffee and a small piece of dark chocolate keto approved. Then I wouldnt eat any meal till after my 20 mins high interval running on treadmill around 4PM. I will have big bowl of salad with olive oil and yogurt with berries on the side then dinner around 7:30pm. The problem only is I still eat red meat as I have low iron i tried to eat more red meat than chicken but I didnt know it swayed blue that much. Id say I HAVE RED MEAT 4-5 times a week (not huge amounts at all but 4-5 times so quite frequent). I was planning on starting femara next cycle couples with metformin at night, saw palmetto, calcium magnesium, folic acid and fibre. What do you advice me? Is what Im doing good enough or should I change something and try later?
Thanks
atomic sagebrush
January 9th, 2021, 07:13 PM
What about protein and fat?
I don't recommend saw palmetto any more, it made people's cycles get really weird and it didn't seem to help sways anyway.
Flamingo911
January 9th, 2021, 11:54 PM
Hi,
Thank you for the quick reply, Protein is mainly through the red meat im eating with dinner and the full fat yogurt. Fat is from the olive oil in the salad and the red meat too. I stopped eating avocadoes. Im mostly low carb as I have PCOS and I try to minimize carb as much as I can, but Im not sure if its more important now to keep carb down and low sugar or to not eat animal protein, I will stop the saw palmetto. I was going to start inositol, would you recommend that? Thank you!
atomic sagebrush
January 10th, 2021, 12:38 PM
OK, but how much in terms of grams?
Yes, I want you to keep carbs lower and avoid sugar. For you it's more important to avoid sugar and lower carbs to say 150 g or less than it is to avoid red meat totally but we need to be sure you're not getting too much red meat either.
Inositol is fine since you have PCOS.
Flamingo911
January 10th, 2021, 01:03 PM
About 200g of red meat, is that alot? I hope not, I was really hoping we start ttc this month but Im still okay with waiting and going vegetarian if it will make a bigger difference, its just hard to get protein through veggies and still remain low carb
atomic sagebrush
January 10th, 2021, 01:23 PM
200 g of meat or of protein?
There is about 53 g protein in 200 g meat. That would be in line with our recommendations, but you're probably getting protein from other things, right?
Flamingo911
January 10th, 2021, 01:53 PM
About 16g protein from yogurt, I eat alot of it.. and the rest of my day is just salad and keto dark chocolate here and there
atomic sagebrush
January 11th, 2021, 11:09 AM
Ok. So since we are trying for more like 50-60 g protein, you would probably be going over that a bit. You might want to cut serving size on those and make up for it with something without as much protein. :)
Flamingo911
January 11th, 2021, 07:32 PM
Okay thank you for the reply, so should I try again 3 months on this diet and they ttc?
atomic sagebrush
January 12th, 2021, 10:36 AM
That's your call to make - as long as you had cut back somewhat from your normal diet I'd likely still count those weeks in the total.
Flamingo911
February 15th, 2021, 09:45 AM
Hi Atomic thank you for your help, I took letrozole this cycle and we are trying again. I have cut red meat completely from my diet this past month. I have recently came across the e4d for a girl, I thought it was only one try in the fertile window didn’t realize we bad to stick to e4d the entire cycle. I ovulate very late cd18-20. I haven’t ovulated yet, Im monitoring with the ovulation strips. We have dtd cd 12&cd13 does that affect my sway in a bad way? Im going to stick to the e4d now that I know. Please let me know, Im so worried I might have messed everything up for us this cycle
atomic sagebrush
February 15th, 2021, 04:12 PM
You can do one attempt, or you can do e4d. It's your choice. Some people do one thing, some another. Some start off with one attempt and then do e4d later on.
you may end up ovulating sooner than you normally do with swaying. Just be aware of that.
But having attempts out of the fertile window does not matter IN the fertile window, if you're 5-6 days from when you normally O that is fine.
Flamingo911
February 15th, 2021, 04:22 PM
Perfect thank you! I really hope it works this month Fingers crossed
Flamingo911
February 22nd, 2021, 10:15 AM
Hi Atomic, I have an urgent question, we dtd on Saturday as we were following e4d and I got a dark line sunday night, I tested today morning and I got a smiley face using clear blue, So do we keep e4d and we try tomorrow Tuesday? Or we try today at the first smiley (positive opk)?
Thanks
treens
February 22nd, 2021, 01:08 PM
Im totally not sure! But wishing the best of luck to you :))
Flamingo911
February 22nd, 2021, 04:16 PM
😊 thanks
atomic sagebrush
February 22nd, 2021, 06:34 PM
I would have you keep going with the e4d pattern.
Flamingo911
February 22nd, 2021, 10:34 PM
Alright then thank you!
Flamingo911
February 23rd, 2021, 09:18 AM
Would you recommend waiting till Wednesday for a better chance of girl? So it would be Saturday then Wednesday to make sure its a one attempt
atomic sagebrush
February 23rd, 2021, 09:51 AM
It's your choice. Most people do e4d in the 72 hour pattern, which would be Tuesday. Some, especially when they're first starting off (some people start off with e4d from the beginning rather than one attempt) prefer to do the 96. You may end up missing ovulation though.
Flamingo911
March 7th, 2021, 03:15 PM
Hi Atomic,
I think we are out of luck this month, got my period today.. do you have any advice for next month? Thank you
atomic sagebrush
March 7th, 2021, 06:18 PM
Give me a brief rundown of everything you did this last month and I'll tell you what to change up!
Flamingo911
March 8th, 2021, 12:37 AM
Hi,
I stuck to 1700 cals a day diet no red meat. Took metformin 1500 everyday and letrozole 3-10, took folic acid. Husband normal
Diet no supps (he eats meat and chicken every other day) and drinks coffee. We did e4d and he took a bath before we attempted. I got up right away and used to washroom. We tried on a Saturday and I got dark line sunday night and smiley monday morning and Tuesday as well. We tried again Tuesday night. So it was a one attempt I believe in the fertile window.
atomic sagebrush
March 8th, 2021, 11:53 AM
You took letrozole for that long?
Drop the bath and have you wait 5 minutes before getting up.
Did you use any jellies or anything?
Flamingo911
March 8th, 2021, 05:54 PM
Hi, yes day 3 to day 10, no jellies, ok will drop the bath. I forgot to mention I took antihistamine on the day of the attempt and the day before.
Thanks
atomic sagebrush
March 9th, 2021, 12:15 PM
That was on the advice of your doctor?
Yes please also drop antihistamine.
Flamingo911
March 11th, 2021, 01:03 AM
Yes because I dont ovulate on my own regularly I have PCOS
atomic sagebrush
March 11th, 2021, 04:57 PM
most people only take it for 5 days, not seven. Just wanted to check that was the advice of your doctor. :)
Flamingo911
March 11th, 2021, 09:31 PM
Hi oh Im sorry I did take it for 5 days only! I dont know why I wrote 3-10 I started day 3 and ended day 8 🤗
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