Need help trying to conceive Boy

[9jamama01]

Hello atomic,

So I have tried to conceive for two cycles now and so far nothing. I don't understand what's happening, I conceived on the first try with my other pregnancies.

I have a 27 day cycle and last month we bd cd 7, 9, 12, 13 (2 times). I couldn't continue the bd because I developed a UTI. But my period arrived right on time on cd 27.

The only thing I noticed were cramps on 10dpo which I haven't experienced before, I thought it was implantation but it wasn't.

I had a positive opk on cd13. My diet is good and I haven't missed taking the supplements too.

What can I do differently this month. I am on cd 7.


Thanks atomic.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Two cycles is in normal range though! Don't worry yet!

The cramps before ovulation are normal. Some of us get those regularly. I think you ovulated later than CD 10 because of when your period came.

I would be inclined to do exactly what you did the last time! That was a good attempt, I suspect if you'd been able to have attempts CD 14 as well you would have conceived (provided it was a good egg and all, some of them aren't).

[9jamama01]

Thanks atomic

The cramps came on cd 23, 10 days past of ovulation. I would try to get in more attempts this cycle thanks

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh gosh I'm sorry I misread that. Thanks for clarifying!

[9jamama01]

Hello atomic,

So far we've been able to have attempts on cd 6, 7, 9, 12 (2times), 13, 14 (today). I had a positive opk on cd12 and by cd 13 it had turned negative.

Do we need to add another attempt tomorrow cd15, or should we go every other day, that is cd 16, 18 and 20?

Thanks for your help.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I would probably have suggested a CD 15 attempt but no biggie if it didn't happen. Every other day from now on at least till CD 20 like you say.

[9jamama01]

Hello atomic, so I'm out again. Cd 2 for me. I really think something is wrong. I don't even know if I am actually ovulating. I want to do an ultrasound this month to find out.

I had bd cd12, 13, 14, 15 17. Positive opk on cd 13. AF arrived on cd26.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Your period coming when it "should" (CD 26) means you are all but certainly ovulating.

I think you need to start attempts sooner (as per what we already discussed). I think you just had a bad break in not being able to have sex CD 10/11. If possible this upcoming month I'd have attempts sooner, in case you ovulate CD 12/13 or early on 14.

[9jamama01]

Thank you Atomic, I would try to start earlier this month. The only problem is dh. I think the stress of ttc is getting to him. I am not sure he will be able to have a lot of attempts. When so you suggest we start having sex? I'm on cd3 now. Thanks for your help.

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[9jamama01]

Atomic, I also wonder if stress is affecting my ability to conceive. I started a new job the month I started ttc. It wasn't expected and since then the job has been very stressful for me. I am considering taking a week off work after ovulation this month. Do you think that would help?

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[9jamama01]

I mean a week off work so that I can rest after ovulation. Thanks atomic

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[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you Atomic, I would try to start earlier this month. The only problem is dh. I think the stress of ttc is getting to him. I am not sure he will be able to have a lot of attempts. When so you suggest we start having sex? I'm on cd3 now. Thanks for your help.

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The key is to have the three attempts in the fertile window if at all possible. So just try to time it for that to happen, and if some of the earlier attempts have to go, that's ok.

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic, I also wonder if stress is affecting my ability to conceive. I started a new job the month I started ttc. It wasn't expected and since then the job has been very stressful for me. I am considering taking a week off work after ovulation this month. Do you think that would help?

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I don't think this is necessary. We don't know that it would help you at all and it may be that it causes stress coming INTO ovulation OR 7 DPO when you have to return to work right when you're newly pregnant. (it's not just after O that stress can affect your ability to conceive negatively). I mean, if you have to do extra work to make up for it, if your boss is a jerk about it, etc. There's just no proof that this would help at all and I can see it being very likely to only create more stress.

[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

I'm on cd12 today. I have already bd cd 11(pm) and cd 12 (am). Please take a look at my test. Is that positive? How should I continue my bd pattern?

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[atomic sagebrush]

It's close. I'd have attempt starting tonight, unless you're super invested in timing. I suspect positive will come later today, but may not be till tomorrow. So if you're very concerned with timing you can start attempts tomorrow, but I would start today!

[9jamama01]

Hello atomic,

So these are the tests from this afternoon. It doesn't look positive, but I forgot i had to and I had a drink of water about an hour before testing.

I've already bd cd 11, 12 and 13. I have a 27 day cycle. What do you suggest I do?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/17512fe98f8157d9c56c56d8df84e23f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/4e93fbca8b4318d0a4a162ef98e593a2.jpg

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[9jamama01]

Today is cd13 for me

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[atomic sagebrush]

Keep going thru CD 15.

[9jamama01]

Thank you Atomic,

But I'm in so much pain right now, I guess it's ovulation pain, I don't know if I can bear sex right now. Will acetaminophen be ok to take?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes just take an acetomenophen. If that doesn't work, take ONE ibuprofen 200 mg but no more than that.

Sometimes orgasm relieves O pain.

[9jamama01]

Thanks alot Atomic


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[9jamama01]

So AF has arrived again, right on time cd 28. I had bd cd 11,12,13,14,15 17. I really thought I had it this time around.

Atomic what do I do?

The worst part is getting dh to dtd 3-5 times in the fertile window is getting quite difficult and this is our 4th month trying.

I really felt like I had it this month, with experiencing cramps and low back pain on cd7. I thought it was implantation. The low back pain had been on and off since cd7.


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[atomic sagebrush]

If you had those low back cramps it may be that you had a chemical. Sometimes it just isn't the right sperm or the right egg, or something goes wrong very early on (so many things have to go just right for pregnancy to happen, the miracle is in how often it DOES go right!)

I think you guys had a great attempt, it is just that this wasn't THE month. I know it's SO hard getting in the attempts, just do your best and that way if you do fall a bit short still you're in with more attempts than you would have had otherwise.

[9jamama01]

Thanks atomic

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[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic, I have run out of fish oil supplements and I've not been able to find 500mg or even 1000mg fish oil. At the local pharmacy they only have the 1200mg fish oil.

Can I use the 1200mg every other day?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes but I'd keep trying to find a different kind when you can.

[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

So DH took me for a follicular ultrasound to see if I was actually ovulating. Today is cd9 and the results showed :

Left dominant follicle- 23.3mm x 20.6mm, 17.0mm x 11.8mm.

Please what do you think?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Hmm I think you may ovulate the 23 mm and the 20 mm any time now! Did they suggest a trigger shot?? I would be ready to have attempts starting right away.

[9jamama01]

No they didn't say anything about a trigger shot. Do you think I'll need one? I was only asked to come back daily till ovulation.

We already bd yesterday before the ultrasound so I guess that counts for one attempt, hopefully I'll be able to get in 2 or 3 more. But dh is insistent that we wait till a day before of ovulation to continue. I'll just have to convince him to get in more attempts.

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[atomic sagebrush]

You guys need to be attempting now now now!! There is EVERY chance with a 23 mm follicle that WAS O Day! At 23 mm you can go at any time. I hope you have gotten in at least one more!

[9jamama01]

We have had 2 attempts for now but the technician told me that he was not sure the follicle would rupture, he also said that the shape of the follicle wasn't regular.

I was asked to keep coming daily till ovulation is detected.

If it doesn't rupture what could I do to aid ovulation and if it ruptures but the egg is bad what can I do to boost egg quality for future cycles?

Thank you Atomic.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Well, even if it doesn't, the 20 mm is right there too!

Have you had any update so far?

The best way to ensure you ovulate is a trigger shot your doctor gives you. Otherwise it's just best to wait till you do because nothing people claim "makes you ovulate" actually works, and most of it can even cause harm.

Having a follicle that isn't quite right doesn't indicate anything negative about your egg quality. Let me go back and see what you're doing for your sway to see if there's anything we can change for the better.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok sorry I'm not seeing it in this thread, tell me all supplements you're taking and your BMI.

I think you may just need to revise your expectations. Most people do not get pregnant the first time out, and 3-6 months to conception is completely normal. So I hate to see you despair when it probably just hasn't happened yet.

[9jamama01]

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[9jamama01]

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[9jamama01]

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[9jamama01]

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[9jamama01]

Ok sorry I'm not seeing it in this thread, tell me all supplements you're taking and your BMI.

I think you may just need to revise your expectations. Most people do not get pregnant the first time out, and 3-6 months to conception is completely normal. So I hate to see you despair when it probably just hasn't happened yet.I'm taking just woman one a day and 1000mg fish oil every other day

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[9jamama01]

Atomic I was told I ovulated today, I'm so upset because I only managed to be cd9 ,10,12. I had planned to be cd 11 but the news that the egg wasn't ok just made me feel sad and we couldn't bd as planned and besides I felt like I wouldn't even get pregnant.

I guess the sonologist was very wrong because I did ovulate, probably yesterday cd11 because I felt the sharp ovulation pain yesterday night.

Do you think I still have a good chance to have a boy?

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[9jamama01]

My BMI is 28

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yeah, they should not have told you that. They can't tell on an ultrasound if your egg is ok. They have no idea if that is the case and you should have just gone for it.

But you're still in with a good chance of conception, though the egg was quite large and they really should have given you a trigger shot when it became apparent you were not ovulating in a timely fashion.

You can't tell when you ovulate on O Pain. I understand it's weird when you've felt a stabbing pain but I've heard from hundreds of people who feel those feelings and then don't ovulate or did some time in the past long before they felt that.

[atomic sagebrush]

My BMI is 28

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Have you gained from swaying or is this your everyday weight? Did you conceive your other kids at this BMI?

[9jamama01]

I have gained about 5kg from swaying and I conceived my other children at a lesser BMI. But what do you think is causing me to ovulate so early?

I have a 26 - 27 day cycle and my previous attempts have been on cd 11 - 15 but I haven't been able to conceive. I guess I've been ovulating early all this while.

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[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

From my ultrasound I suspect that I ovulated on day 11 because the follicle size was smaller than cd 10. Is ovulating on cd11 too early? Does it have anything to do with egg quality?

I read somewhere that ovulating from the left ovary is a sign of low fertility while ovulating from the right ovary is a sign of high fertility. I ovulated from the left ovary this month.

I was wondering if you would recommend supplements that I can take to boost my egg quality.

Currently I take women one a day, folic acid and 1000mg fish oil every other day.

Thanks for kindness Atomic.

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[atomic sagebrush]

I have gained about 5kg from swaying and I conceived my other children at a lesser BMI. But what do you think is causing me to ovulate so early?

I have a 26 - 27 day cycle and my previous attempts have been on cd 11 - 15 but I haven't been able to conceive. I guess I've been ovulating early all this while.

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It may be simply that this was a weird cycle. We honestly cannot know for sure what was happening in the past. CD 11 ovulation is not terribly early, you can conceive with that.

Let's try to hold steady on weight gain in case it's messing up your cycle.

[atomic sagebrush]

The egg quality may have been off this month because something was goofy with the follicle. It got WAY too big before ovulation occurred, now this doesn't mean that you couldn't get pregnant, but it is something we think "hmm, perhaps that had a negative effect". But this doesn't mean anything for previous or for future cycles.

You can absolutely ovulate CD 11 and conceive from it.

Don't overthink the right ovary vs. left ovary. All that is just totlaly unproven speculation.
The right ovary often gets more blood flow so it ovulates more often. All it means is that something about that particular egg made it respond better (indeed, maybe too well) to the hormones and it won the race. Next month, it may be one on the right. Whatever egg is the most responsive will be the one ovulated.

Can you get coq10 where you're at?? You may want to add in 200 mg coq10 to improve egg quality.

[9jamama01]

Thank you Atomic, I will start Coq10 as soon as possible. Should I start the Coq10 now, or wait for AF to arrive? I'm on cd18 now.

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[Simibhullar]

Hello Atomic,
Is it possible to sway blue with hypothyroidism and Insemination with femara?
Thanks atomic


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you Atomic, I will start Coq10 as soon as possible. Should I start the Coq10 now, or wait for AF to arrive? I'm on cd18 now.

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Yes, you can start it now!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hello Atomic,
Is it possible to sway blue with hypothyroidism and Insemination with femara?
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Yes absolutely! The insemination will sway blue, and the Femara is only adding a small percent towards pink (the reason we like Femara for pink is not because it's super powerful, it's because it's consistent and easy)

Many people believe hypothyroidism sways blue anyway. I am not convinced of that, but many people do think it's blue friendly.

[Simibhullar]

Thanks for replying Atomic!
Can I support my sway with diet or something? DH and me both take Conceive Plus Tablets.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I strongly recommend diet for swaying! Our diet is here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/16806-high-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

I cannot recommend the Conceive Plus tablets for you as they have inositol which has swayed strongly pink for us. Also, they have L-arginine in it, which sways blue for hubby but has been seeming to sway PINK when taken by DW. Your husband can continue with those if he wants though.

[Simibhullar]

Atomic, which supplements would you prefer than for swaying blue for me as well as for dh? Femara does decrease estrogen what actually sways towards pink. What do you think about drinking grapefruit juice to increase estrogen?

[Simibhullar]

Perhaps you can suggest a brand? Thanks for your help [emoji4]

[atomic sagebrush]

I just want you to take the supplements we've probably already talked about:

Prenatal with 100% recommended value of most nutrients, up to 250% of Vit. D

Up to 2000 mcg folic acid or folate including the amount in prenatal all thru the entire first trimester, and then gradually wean back to the amount in prenatal

250-500 mg fish oil or DHA/EPA supplements

Probiotic

Coq10 100 mg daily till BFP then gradually wean off.

Do not drink grapefruit juice as it can make too much medication be absorbed and it really doesn't help your sway anyway. You can have any fruit juice instead, or just water to stay hydrated and keep making EWCM.

Guaifenesin if you want to use it, around ovulation.

The Femara only sways pink by 3-5% max and if you're doing other blue friendly things you can still get boys on it. LOTS of people get boys on the fertility meds, their effects are minor provided you're swaying blue in other ways.

For DH, men's multi with 100% recommended value, but up to 250% Vit. D

He doesnot need extra folic acid and should not take it

250-500 mg fish oil

Probiotic

Coq10 100 mg

Carnitine 1000 mg and arginine 500 mg (this is for DH ONLY. DO NOT take these yourself!)

That's it. That is all you need. Other herbs and high doses of vitamins generally have a negative effect and may even sway pink.

[atomic sagebrush]

Perhaps you can suggest a brand? Thanks for your help [emoji4]

I don't suggest brands (other than the One a Day for multivitamins). There are too many brands all around the world and they all change their doses constantly, it's impossible to keep up with them all and I would be afraid I wasn't giving you good advice if I told you particular brands. Any name brand you recognize is fine. If you want to post a link I can check before you buy.

[Simibhullar]

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Hey atomic, these are the 4 prenatal supplements I found in the internet. Maybe You can have a look over them? (The language is German, Eisen means Iron)
Which probiotics do you mean? Thanks a lot [emoji4]
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[atomic sagebrush]

Let's go with the Fembion 2 and then you won't need additional fish oil.

Yes those probiotics are just dandy! That will work!

[Simibhullar]

Ok, can I summarize the supplements:
For me: femibion 2, probiotics, cq10 100mg
For DH: conceive plus for men and cq 10 100mg
Right?

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't like Conceive Plus for men because it has Maca (don't use maca) and not enough carnitine and arginine. I would have him take Men's One a Day plus the arginine and carnitine separately.

[Simibhullar]

Ok, thanks once again Atomic [emoji4]

[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

So my doctor wants me to try a timed intercourse this month with clomid, fsh injections and trigger shot. How do you think it will sway?

What bd attempts should I be having with this plan?

I normally have a 26-27 day cycle, is there a chance I could ovulate earlier than cd 12 when I'm meant to have the ultrasound?

Thanks atomic

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[atomic sagebrush]

Clomid sways a small amount but this is easily overcomable with other blue sway supps.

Once you have had the trigger shot, BD as much as possible!

You absolutely can ovulate a different day than normal on Coomid (and most do.) But you generally won't ovulate sooner than 5 days after your last shot. So if you take it through CD 7, you would not ovulate before CD 12 anyway. I would suggest possibly seeing if you can move it up by a day to CD 11 to be sure you're in before O Day if you do go naturally.

[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

Happy New year!

I hope you have been well and your family too. Trying for a year took a toll on me and i lost faith along the way. So I took a long break from swaying last year, I just wanted to get pregnant, besides it was quite expensive to keep buying supplements.

But seeing that Kerry45 got her bfp my hope is renewed and i'm ready to start swaying again.

I have started taking
-women's one a day
-fish oil 1000mg every other day
-folic acid

Please can you take a look at the probiotics, so i can start taking them too.

Thanks for all your help Atomic.

Is it ok to start having attempts this month even though I'm just starting with the supplements? My diet has been regular, I don't skip meals and my weight is stable. I have been off and on with exercise. But I will begin in earnest this week but just simple cardio maybe 15mins or 20. I'm not sure I have the energy to do anything more now.

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[9jamama01]

I have a 26/27 day cycle. My attempts all the time have been cd 11,12 13. But I believe I ovulate on cd12, because during the last follicular scan I went for, the egg had already ruptured before I got there on cd 12 afternoon.

DH now has performance anxiety when its time to ttc.

What BD pattern would you advise?

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[Jazmin]

hey Jamama ,

wish you all the best. i am also back with attempts this month, after last year Feb.
i am kinda done with fertile window this month i guess, and will wait for AF to do a test.


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[9jamama01]

Thank you Jazmin,

It's good to be back. I hope we both get our bfps soon. Goodluck dear

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[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic, I know I have a lot of questions [emoji2356] please bear with me.

I would like to add cough syrup to my sway. Please when should I start taking them and what dosage. This is the brand I found in our pharmacy https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220111/06d2a1437d87be94985ecde4730ee763.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220111/cf97a5d28cbd1303c0bb84fcb9f35c02.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

HI again 9jamama!

I would feel free to have attempt this month if you've been eating well. I think 15-20 min a day of cardio is just fine!!

The New Rhythm and Garden of Life are fine. The others have cranberry or dietary enzymes in them. Cranberry may sway pink and there is not enough info on dietary enzymes and how they might sway to know if they're good to take or not.

Can you fill in for me about your attempts and when you're having them?? Sometimes if you guys aren't conceiving, there is an easy fix I can help with.

[9jamama01]

Thanks for your response Atomic.

Our attempts mostly have been cd 8/9, 11, 12, 13. By cd14 DH has usually had enough and is tired.

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[atomic sagebrush]

And how long is your cycle relative to those attempts?

Oh and I didn't see this question the last time, but if the only active ingredient in that cough syrup is guaifenesin that's fine.

[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

I have a 26/27 day cycle and I think I ovulate on cd 12.


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[9jamama01]

Bump


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[atomic sagebrush]

Ok, in that case you're having well timed attempts, I'd probably skip CD 8 and maybe even 9 to ensure hubby's not getting depleted. I'd go with 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and the odds are good you've Oed by then.

How are you determining ovulation?

[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

I just judge ovulation based on the pain I have during sex, the pain usually starts on cd 10 and ends by cd 13. I don't want to obsess over ovulation sticks this year instead I might try checking my temps (if I can) for later cycles.

The BD pattern you suggested didn't go according to plan for me. DH came back from his trip and we ended up dtd on Cd8,9,10. Hopefully we'll be able to have one more attempt tonight cd 11. But I'm not sure if he can continue after that.

I'll just hope for the best.

Thanks Atomic.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh ok well as long as your cycle stays regular that does fit in with when your period is coming, I'd probably try to get through at least CD 14 if at all possible.

Even if he were to take a day off and do CD 12, 13, 14 that might work too.

[9jamama01]

So today is cd 11 PM and my cm is creamy like lotion, I also have mild ovulation pains. Does that mean that ovulation is over?9) I didn't get any Ecwm this week (though I hardly ever see it) but I had watery cm on cd 10 ]]
and 11 AM.

Do you think I've ovulated?

This is probably not my month anyways maybe next month I'd try checking my BBT.

But is there any way I can increase my ecwm?

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[atomic sagebrush]

No it doesn't mean that O is over and you should keep having attempts till you're SURE you have ovulated.

Watery CM IS fertile CM and it still counts. It is fine, you don't need to do anything to change that.

Keep me posted!!

[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

So far we have BD cd 8, 9, 11, 12. We were both exhausted yesterday but I hope to have an attempt today cd 14 and tomorrow cd 15. If possible.

The ovulation pain came back today and my cm changed to watery yesterday. I'm still taking my supplements though.

I'm under a lot of stress this month, due to starting a new job so I'm not even sure I'll ovulate this month.

Thanks for your help Atomic.

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[Jazmin]

prayers for your bfp [emoji4][emoji170]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Stress is not a dealbreaker, it really doesn't stop ovulation in its tracks generally but just pushes it back by a day or two. So even if it's later, you would probably still ovulate later than normal by just a bit. And even that really doesn't happen too terribly often.

[9jamama01]

Thank you Atomic,

I'll see how it turns out by cd 26. Hopefully I'll get my bfp, if not I'll try to BD cd 10, 11, 12, 13 14 next month.

Fingers crossed .[emoji1696]

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[9jamama01]

I'm out again, AF showed up this morning. So on to the next cycle [emoji23].

This month we dtd cd 8,9,11,12,14. Next time I'll aim for 10-14. This month would also be a busy month for me. Hopefully it doesn't affect my chances negatively.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Awww, bummer! Some months just aren't THE month but I know that's little consolation when you had a great attempt and it just didn't happen.

:agree: with plans for next month, good luck and all the blue dust headed your way!

[Jazmin]

Jamama.. maybe this isn’t the right month for your healthy baby boy.. that’s what I believe when I see negative… It is hard but am sure we both will get there soon [emoji4]
wishing you the best attempt for your next cycle.
I am about to enter to 2ww waiting and remembered that I didn’t take cough syrup at all.. [emoji21] .. 2ww is hard [emoji46]


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[9jamama01]

Thank you Atomic,

I can't wait for AF to be over so I can start my attempts.

But for some months now, I've noticed a bit of vibration or buzzing feeling in my womb when I get my periods. I wonder if it has anything to do with my inability to conceive for more than a year now?

Is there anything I can do differently this month?

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[9jamama01]

Thank you Jazmin,

All the best this month. [emoji1696] [emoji1696]

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[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you Atomic,

I can't wait for AF to be over so I can start my attempts.

But for some months now, I've noticed a bit of vibration or buzzing feeling in my womb when I get my periods. I wonder if it has anything to do with my inability to conceive for more than a year now?

Is there anything I can do differently this month?

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I have never had this reported to me, so it's not something I can express an opinion on really, I'm sorry. I Googled it and some people have had it happen, but there did not seem to be a consensus on what, if anything it means. I did think this was a relatively good article (although I HATE IT when medical researchers chalk things that they don't have an explanation for, up to "anxiety", so just disregard that section) https://www.enkimd.com/fluttering-in-lower-abdomen.html

There's always the possibility of having something going on, but unless we have an invasive test (that probably isn't even necessary) we can't know. If you are very concerned, you can pursue a transvaginal ultrasound or even an hysterosalpingography to be sure nothing is happening up inside.

Has your husband had a sperm analysis recently?? In several cases, when we had unexplained ability to conceive, it turned out that the husband had developed some male factor infertility. What supplements is he taking, if any?

[9jamama01]

Hello Atomic,

Is this probiotic okay for my blue sway?
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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes it's great!

[9jamama01]

Thank you Atomic

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[9jamama01]

Hi Atomic, so I've been Ttcing for over a year now. I'm 33 and DH is 40. Last week I insisted he went for a sperm analysis and the result that came back showed gross oligospermia.

Since then he's refused to go to the hospital. I'm tired really and in no mood to argue anymore.

Is there any supplement he can take that could help?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh gosh I'm sorry to hear that, but relieved that you guys got some answers.

Is he taking any supplements now? I have some I can suggest but first I want to be sure he's not taking anything that may be harmful - some herbs are really harsh on sperm count.

[9jamama01]

Thanks Atomic, currently he takes Immunace multivitamin and he's also on some blood pressure medication. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220717/4d5ecc4114a3b6160a65346c99afb6f2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220717/451b84209adffdf7737fca4891b0e924.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

Well, some blood pressure meds can lower sperm quality, but then again so can high blood pressure, so he should definitely stay on that.

While normally I would suggest weaning off that vitamin onto something that has lower levels of most vitamins, I think since he's already on it we'll just have him continue. Let's add in more carnitine and arginine, though - 1000 mg carnitine, and 500 mg arginine. These have been very helpful to sperm quality.

[9jamama01]

Hi Atomic,

Please what's the difference between L-Carnithine and Acetyl L-Carnithine, and which of them should I get for hubby?

He would start taking the supplements next week. In your experience how long do you think it will take before we can expect results?

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[9jamama01]

Bump

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[atomic sagebrush]

They're just slightly different versions of the same thing. Both have benefits for sperm health, the acetyl-l is supposedly slightly better for the brain, and some people find it interferes with their sleep and the just plain L-carnitine doesn't. It's one of those things where either one of them is fine, both help sperm, which is what we're using it for.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sperm take 72 days or so to form, but the carnitine will start helping all the sperm right away, even the stuff that's been forming for quite a while.

[9jamama01]

Hi Atomic, so hubby has been taking arginine and L-Carnithine for some time now, and I've been trying my best to keep to the HE diet.
I want to give TTC a shot this month. When do you suggest I have attempts?

I used to have a 26-27 day cycle for a long time now but For the past 3 months I've had a 28 day cycle. I don't want to buy opks this month, so what days do you think I should have attempts.

I may only be able to get in 2 attempts during the fertile window because hubby is under some stress now. What do you think?

Thanks for all you do for us Atomic [emoji3590]

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[9jamama01]

Bump

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[atomic sagebrush]

So if we're sure you're ovulating on CD 14, and you're ok with skipping timing, I'd have attempts CD 12, 13, 14 if possible, and 12 and 13 if you can't do all three days.

If you're worried you may ovulate more like CD 26 or 27, then you'd start the attempts a little sooner.

Another thing you could try to cover both bases, is to have an attempt CD 11, then take CD 12 off, then attempt CD 13 and 14.

[9jamama01]

Thanks Atomic, I'd try cd 11,13&14. May this be my month of answered prayers [emoji120].

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[atomic sagebrush]

:pray: :pray: :pray:

[9jamama01]

Hi Atomic,

I trust you are well.

We managed to Bd cd 11, 13&14. I tried to get dh to bd on cd 14 morning but it didn't happen so we ended up bding cd 14 night. Does the time of day matter? Do I still have a chance of conception, bding so late at night on cd14.

I've also had cramps since cd12, ovulation cramps I guess. The pain seems to be easing off this night. And now the wait begins, Again lol.

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[atomic sagebrush]

It depends on when the egg shows up, and how long it stays alive after being released. We just can't know that, unfortunately. But I think it was GREAT for you to BD CD 14 at night anyway, because you just can't know for sure and should always have an attempt just to keep your bases covered as long as you can.

FXFXFX and blue dust headed your way!