Please help for blue sway[emoji170]

[Missv]

Hi Atomic and everyone!
I haven't written for a few months but I have followed religiously and read a lot of valuable information on this forum.
As agreed last time, I would like to try swaving blue this summer, at the latest for August- September. My daughter will be 3 in October and I'm going for 37.

I hope summer could be a good time, as I would have more time to work out with weights, focus on diet and maybe get more sun (which for the vitamin D should help my sway).

In these months I have tried as much as possible to change my eating habits: for almost a year I have always eaten full fat milk and corn flakes for breakfast, I try to eat more red meat and eggs during the week, I have introduced more dairy products (cheese after dinner and yogurt as a snack) and in the evening often 1-2 pieces of dark chocolate or icecream.
Last year from the first lockdown, I gained 3-5 kilos.

Lately I have also stopped smoking.
As for physical activity, however, I haven't done much during this winter, taken from home and family work but I hope to start at the end of the month, adding to walking with my daughter some weight training.

As for the nutritional supplements I would like to start as soon as possible but I am a bit confused as here where I live there aren't the ones that you usually recommend on the forum.
For me I am undecided between multicentrum mum (with DHA) and multicentrum pre mum.
For my husband, on the other hand, multicentrum man or multicentrum man 50+ (he is 40 years old).
If I am attaching the nutritional tables, could you tell me please which one in your opinion is better as a choice?

In addition to these, do I have to add more folic acid, vitamin D or probiotics?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Can you bump this for me?? It's getting late here and I want to give you my best answer! Thank you!

[Missv]

Thanks Atomic!
P.S. How can I bump it?? Lol

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[atomic sagebrush]

You just did! All you need to do is simply post again in the same thread, and it comes back up to the top of my rotation and I'll see it anew. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Summer can indeed be a good time to TTC a boy according to statistics, just be sure your husband takes care to avoid getting his "family jewels" too overheated if the weather is very warm!

Diet is looking good, I do recommend adding in some exercise and stopping the weight gain now because too much weight gain is not good for your sway or your healthy pregnancy either. Weight training can really help!

Any of those supplements are all good! I prefer the one that has 250% of Vitamin D, then you don't need to add any more.

I like you guys to take up to 2000 mcg folic acid or folate, continue this all through the entire first trimester of pregnancy, and then gradually wean off by spacing doses further and further out till down to the amount in the prenatal.

[atomic sagebrush]

Also, keep any DHA supplement to no more than 500 mg for both you and DH. More seems to lower cholesterol and possibly sway pink, not blue.

[Missv]

Ok Atomic! Then I will start taking pre- mum multicentrum while my husband will start with 50+ male multicentrum.
The amount of 2000 mcg of folic acid means total, right? So do I have to add more folic acid to the amount of prenatal vitamins?

As for the diet, I read from the forum that it would be good to drink lemon water (for blue sway). I can't drink it because it causes heartburn but I really like lemon juice for salad dressing or meat.
Do you think lemon or vinegar (like eating pickles) is more effective for a blue sway?

I also read about the use of lubricants, can they promote blue sway?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's right, 2000 mcg total including the amount in the prenatal. Most people do need to add more in (depending on their prenatal).

I honestly don't think the lemon water does anything at all. Just drinking regular water hydrates you which is the important thing. Lemon water is just the safest way to "alkalinize" which is actually a nonsensical, unscientific theory that doesn't work for swaying. Lemon as an ingredient is fine, skipping it is also fine. I would go easy on vinegar though as apple cider vinegar has been shown to lower blood sugar pretty effectively and may undermine a blue sway.

Preseed may help a blue sway somewhat, if you don't make much EWCM (egg white cervical mucus) around ovulation. But EWCM is better than Preseed. IF you already make a lot of EWCM you don't need the Preseed. Some people with all/many girls have very little EWCM. Another option is to use guaifenesin to increase the amount of EWCM you make.

[Missv]

Hi Atomic I'm back here.
I had to postpone my blue sway because in June I had the first dose of the covid vaccine and next week I will have the second one after which the doctor told me that it is better to wait at least a month after the last dose before trying to conceive. So I'm trying to get ready for late August or September. However, I continue with diet, exercise and prenatals.

I wanted to ask you about the attempts: several times I have read that for the blue sway you recommend at least 3 attempts in the fertile window, right?
Do you think it would be better BD once a day for every day of the window or concentrate the attempts in a few days (after positive OPK), trying to bd morning and evening?
I hope my question is clear and makes sense. Thank you in advance!

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[atomic sagebrush]

The true fertile window only really lasts 3 days reliably - day before positive OPK, day of first positive OPK, day after first positive OPK. It may open the day before and the day after that but not reliably. So I would aim at those three days, in whatever pattern you're able to come up with. You don't have to have sex more than once a day if you have sex each of those three days. But if you miss the day before first OPK (which happens because none of us can predict that reliably) then it's fine to hit it wiht more than one attempt in a day to get the three attempts in.

Basically in the fertile window, the more attempts the better!

[Missv]

Hi Atomic and hello everyone!

Last month finally we tried for our blue sway.
The week of ovulation we were on holiday by the sea, no stress, plenty of sun (vit. D), lots of good food (especially pasta and fish) and some wine (white).
I religiously continued with breakfast (milk and cereals) and with folic acid and prenatals.
Also lots of walking and lots of swimming.
I started tracking ovulation with clear blue digital (only once in the morning). Negative until CD 13 (directly peak) then negative again. I have a very regular cycle of 27-28 days so (also according to OPK) I should have ovulated on CD13/CD14.
Anyway, we have unprotected sex (always release inside) on CD 6, 8, 11, 13 (OPK's peak), 14, 15 and 17. I was not very happy with the attempts because the OPK resulted peak without high fertility and we couldn't BD on CD12 but seemed like good attempts to me.
In the previous pregnancy I got pregnant on the first try (once on CD 13 and CD 15) after only one month off pill.
I didn't think I was so lucky again (even because almost 3 years have passed since then) but I was hoping for it.
Today, however, AF has arrived as precise as a Swiss watch.
Of course we will try again this month, but do you think there is something I should change? Maybe in terms of number of attempts and timing?
I'm 36, DH 40.
Thanks as always xxx.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Honestly, I think those were great attempts and it just wasn't the month. I do agree a CD 12 attempt would have been the bee's knees but likely it just wasn't meant to be this time.

If your cycle is very regular I'd likely just count on it coming CD 13/14 and hit it with attempt CD 12 even if your OPK is not cooperating.

[Missv]

Thanks Atomic.
AF finished yesterday. So do you think it's a good idea to follow last month's frequency (adding CD12)?
Or would be better have an intercourse now (to regenerate sperm) and then BD with multiple consecutive attempts directly in the most fertile window (0-2, 0-1, 0, 0+1)? I'm afraid that releases too close and "far" from the O day can lower the number of sperm and therefore the chances of conception.
Does what I said make sense?
Thanks xxx.

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[atomic sagebrush]

As long as he is releasing every 2-4 days early on, it will NOT deplete him. So having sex CD 6, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14 is all good, and then 15 guarded against delayed O. The early attempts will simply "encourage" more fresh sperm to be made and then the attempts in the fertile window (11, 12, 13, 14, possibly 15) will all have a chance to survive and make it to the egg.

The only people who have attempts that are too many and too far are people who have sex literally every day starting CD 1 and going thru ovulation. Many people try to do this and that is very depleting. But skipping a couple days means he has time to regenerate, and by having regular sex it tells his body "keep making more sperm!" Whereas, abstaining for too long tells his body to make fewer sperm.

You guys did just right last month, it just wasnt the month. If you're worried about it, though, you could try stretching it a day so like CD 6, 9, 12 13 14 15. (though I do like to see a CD 11 attempt in case O happens CD 12 or 13!)

[Missv]

Hi atomic,
after 26 days it wasn't the month even this time...
Preparing for a new attempt I had a doubt: when you talk about the first positive OPK do you mean the PEAK one?
To be clear, I'm using digital clear blue (estrogen and LH) with the flashing smile (high fertility) and the steady smile (peak). So as Ovulation day I could consider the peak day or the day after the peak day?
Thanks xx

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[atomic sagebrush]

The peak, first solid smiley is usually the day before ovulation. So ovulation usually happens the day of the SECOND peak, second time you get the solid smiley.

[Missv]

Hi Atomic, I am preparing for a new attempt this month and I need your advice ... This time I was thinking of dtd only once (outside the fertile window) and then concentrate 4 attempts in the fertile window (one attempt a day). I will use digital clear blue to monitor ovulation (which detects the 4 most fertile days). Do you think I should start when the flashing smiley appears (high fertility) or when the solid smiley appears (the peak)? Thanks xxx

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[atomic sagebrush]

What is the advantage of DTD only once out of the fertile window?

What will your hubby's release pattern be??

[Missv]

I don't know if there is an advantage, probably not. But from the experience of the last few months it seems to me that doing bd 2/3 times outside the fertile window decreases the "desire" in the fertile window (last time we bd just CD 12,13). I don't know why but it seems we can't bd for more than 2 consecutive days, maybe focusing on the fertile window can help libido and increase the number of attempts in the fertile window?

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[atomic sagebrush]

When are you having these 2-3 times out of the fertile window?

While hubby does need to keep releasing at the longest every 4-5 days apart, it's totally fine to skip having attempts just before the fertile window opens in favor of just the fertile window attempts. But I don't want to see you guys not having sex/release AT ALL out of the fertile window in an effort to "save up sperm" because that's not how it works.

To sum up - Have sex at least 2x every week regardless of whether you're in fertile window. In the week of fertile window, u can totally use the fertile window ONLY as the best time to have those attempts. I just don't want you guys trying to "save sperm" for more than 4-5 days at a time max because that will kill more sperm than it saves.

[Missv]

Last month, for example, we bd CD 5 and CD 8 (outside the window). Ok I got what you suggest.

This month I would like to be able to be more consistent and succeed at least 4 consecutive times (which has failed in recent months). Do you think we should hit on the smiley face or the steady one (of clearblue digital)? Thanks xxx

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[atomic sagebrush]

CD 5 and 8 would have been very much in the range of what I would have recommended.

If you can hit it to fall on the SECOND flashy and FIRST solid those two days are best chance of conception. (late on the First Flashy and early on the Second solid are also ok) If you can't manage that then do First solid and early on the day of second solid.

[Missv]

Thanks atomic.

I have another, perhaps stupid, question. Over the months I have often noticed only one flashy smiley before the solid one or even no flashy face and directly solid smiley. I know that clearblue works with FMU but what do you think if I use it just after lunch (around 1.30pm or 2 pm) instead of morning? Could it be the same? Thanks in advance.
p.s. I'm a little more nervous for this month... [emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696]

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[atomic sagebrush]

That's not unusual, many people have only one, or NO flashies before smileys. But it is absolutely fine to try testing at lunchtime to see if that works better for you. That's the point at which the hormone concentration in your urine should be the highest (since Clearblue measures other things too that's why it's ok to test in the morning) and some people do see more reliable results testing midday.

FXFXFX and blue dust headed your way!

[Missv]

The best Christmas gift

Dear Atomic, after 5 months of attempting (almost perfect) and a few more kilos gained (thanks to diet and continuous snacking) this morning finally I had my BFP !!!
I wrapped my digital clearblue in a package and put it under the Christmas tree to have it unwrapped by my DH...
I can't tell you the emotion and the immense happiness!
What can I say except THANK YOU for all your support of these months, for always answering me without having anything in return.
You and this site were very important because at 37 years old it can be difficult and anxiety sometimes plays tricks...I'd really like to somehow contribute to the site and add my sway on the forum.
At the end this month the attempts were on day O-3; O-1 (pos OPK) and O. I hope with all my heart that they are enough (with diet, supplements, vitamins) to give me my baby boy.
Otherwise I will have a beautiful little girl who, despite everything, was destined to reach me.
However it goes I'm in seventh heaven! Thanks thanks thanks Atomic.
Merry Christmas to you and everyone!

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[atomic sagebrush]

Wonderful news, huge congrats!!!

The link to add your sway is here! https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway-/

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Sending tons of blue dust!

[Missv]

Thanks Atomic!
I'm still over the moon, but I have a little doubt about my attempts.
This month the frequency was: CD 6, 9, 11 (pos OPK), 12, 15. Unlike the past months, this month we haven't been able to bd on day O-2 and O+1.
So I was thinking, if the day O-3 was too early (the batch of sperm maybe didn't survive until day O) I would only have 2 attempts in the fertile window (CD 11 and 12). But I read somewhere that the day after the positive OPK (O day) may be too late because the batch of semen on that day didn't have time to capacited in time for ovulation, it is possible? So this would mean that did I only make one attempt? Did I ruin my sway?

One interesting thing is that the last AF came in the early morning instead of the afternoon or evening. Is this a good thing for a blue sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

No, you didn't ruin your sway. Both CD 11 and 12 count, and CD 9 may have. (many of us, myself included, got boys with 3 day cutoffs so I promise the sperm is not necessarily dead!)

The vast majority of the time, people who are testing regularly with OPK as you were the day after the first positive is 100% still viable for attempts. We find that it's mainly in people who are just testing now and then, like whenever, I'll do a test this day and not that day, those people are the ones who end up Oing very soon after a positive. Anyone testing regularly will get in with their positive with much more advance warning. We have seen again and again that people testing regularly are much more likely to O more like 48 hours or even 60-72 hours after the first positive. Your timing was great.

We do believe that seeing changes in the time of day your period arrives may indicate something about your hormones is changing. Moms of all girls report later starts to their periods (afternoon to evening) and moms of boys notice that it comes first thing in the morning. Then when we are swaying we are seeing changes in this pattern. So absolutely I do think that's a great sign for a sway (but please no one postpone trying for this reason as it is not at all set in stone, just an intriguing thing we have noticed.)