TRYING TO CONCEIVE PINK THIS MONTH

[gdelsolra01]

Hello, my name is Gaby and I've been reading all these info since my baby boy was like 2-4 month old, now he is exactly 18 months.

I conceived him in a vegan diet, but I took multivitamins, B12, vitamin D. In that summer I got to my heaviest weight which was 142 being 5' 3'' because of anxiety for not being in a stable place with my husband, him and I were overeating. I decided to lose weight and lost around 10 pounds before I got pregnant. I also was having problems with my period and did the seed method to get my period back. I ate fortified cereal every morning with pea fortified rippled milk.

Now I am 128 pounds, gained around 5 pounds in the last month or so. I am not getting any supplement, even though I am again low in vitamin D, im at 26 and the minimum should be 30.
i am no longer vegan, and I am eating in portion sizes. I am still breastfeeding my 18 month old. I started to take Folate. I don't want to overcomplicate things. We are probably going to BD once this month to try... not sure what else to do to somewhat sway for a girl?

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome!

I would have you add in the lowest dose possible of Vitamin D 2x a week. The rules are different when you're actually low in something, and since you're also breastfeeding we want to be sure you've got enough nutrients coming in to conceive.

Starting off with one attempt is a great place to start. Are you willing to do diet changes and exercise???

[gdelsolra01]

Thank you for responding! I am willing to exercise more.
I actually had an ovary cyst explote last Friday that was hemorrhagic. I was late for 4 days and felt horrible, then my menstruation came.
I also had a traumatic event happen to me and I’ve been taking setraline 75mg. Also other thing I forgot, I have a condition in my blood slightly that is called Von Willebrand disease, I can’t do anything about it, it makes me more likely to bruise. I was induced with my first pregnancy and sometimes I think it may have been that because I was in IV and Pitocin for more than 12 hours .

I am thinking if I should wait for a little to make my body rest after going through the painful torsion I felt from my right ovary, and also be able to exercise everyday. Also is there more information on meal ideas for the LE diet? Or is just eating in portions?

As of now I have:
quinoa with eggs
Oikos 0 sugar, 0 fat 15 grams protein
Bread and cheese
Salads and tuna or salmon
Sweet potato

Sometimes I do eat more greasy and bad foods, should I just avoid them completely? And should I just eat twice a day?


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[gdelsolra01]

Hello atomic!
I tried the one attempt and didn’t get pregnant. I just bought OPK to start tracking exactly when I ovulate. Would exercising 3 times a week/ walking with my baby boy work? I am in a BMI of 22.7, should I focus on first losing more weight until I get to 21 BMI? When I was 19-20 I used to have a BMI of 18.2 (I weighted 103 being 5ft3) because I exercised everyday and never had a problem with my cycle… should I go back to that weight?

I can eat lots of salads and low fat oíkos yogurt, and is whole milk ok? I love coffee too and I am taking 1000 of folate and setraline 75mg.
Thank you so much for your help!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh gosh, you'll always hear back from me (it may take me a few days but you will hear back). This is especially true when you have undergone a medical emergency!! If you don't, please "bump" your post by posting in it again. Sometimes I will open a post and then something happens and I never send my reply. (though I never even read this post, so I'm not sure what happened??) Once the window gets closed, I no longer see the post. So please just go ahead and bump after a couple days. Thanks!

Wow, what an ordeal! I am always in favor of stopping exercise a bit in case of injury or illness. That is fine.

I can't comment on anyone's diet without knowing the total calories, fat, and protein that you're eating. This is about LIMITS overall, not the magic foods like other sites use, and so whatever you use to fit in those limits is fine. 1500-1800 cals a day for most people, and for you I think 50-60 g protein and fat (the sertraline can make it harder to lose weight unless we eat a bit more pro and fat). I would suggest whole grains only, NO white grains, and then full fat dairy only, no skim dairy or part skim. You can continue eating sugar, though, in the limits of the day. Do NOT count the protein and fat in fruit and veg you're eating, and then in low carb veg, those are free and unlimited, have as mucha s you want, no need to count them.

You do not need to eat only 2 times a day. Both 2 and 3 meals are equally allowed on LE Diet. Do whichever works better for you. Just push the first meal back a couple hours and that will be the same thing as "skipping breakfast".

It's ok to eat cheat foods and meals on occasion. In fact, it's MANDATORY becuase it helps you stick to the diet overall, if you can eat foods you're really craving and also have the ability to eat at other people's houses, etc. That's fine!

[atomic sagebrush]

We have best results with at least 4 days a week but walking is absolutely fine.

BMI 21 is my cutoff. I do not want you to lose more than that, once you hit 21, try to hold steady and that way if a pound or two more comes off, that's ok. 18.5 is my absolute firm "do not go below this" limit. You do not need to get that thin again.

Yes, whole milk is ok, and in fact anyone with PCOS or tendencies that way should drop skim dairy totally and have only the full fat.

[gdelsolra01]

Is Celsius energy drink too dense on vitamins?

I am looking for a fat burning energy drink but the Celsius one has a lot of vitamins plus green tea, should I not drink it? I’m ready to sway for my next ovulation which is in two weeks! Excited but nervous. I dont really care anymore if its a boy or girl, ill just try to sway but i wont mind. I think I have too much of a boy friendly lifestyle and I’m ok being a boy mom, but at the moment I am exercising only cardio for 4 to 5 times a week and walking 5k every weekend with my fam. No multivitamins, and still breastfeeding. I have very regular cycles but for some reason I weight a little more than before, which makes me think doing the stairs has made me earn some muscle, but as I said, It’s ok if I get another boy, I would love it.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I would not recommend that because not only does it have vitamins, we do not know how the herbs in it sway. Green tea almost certainly sways blue. You do not need a "fat burning" drink. We also don't know how safe those are. I'd just skip it.

I would try to get off some of the weight between now and your attempt (don't worry if it's only a small amount) Even just a pound or two may help send a message that times are harder and a girl has a better chance. But if you don't truly care about gender then just go for it!

Healthy baby dust headed your way!

[gdelsolra01]

I would not recommend that because not only does it have vitamins, we do not know how the herbs in it sway. Green tea almost certainly sways blue. You do not need a "fat burning" drink. We also don't know how safe those are. I'd just skip it.

I would try to get off some of the weight between now and your attempt (don't worry if it's only a small amount) Even just a pound or two may help send a message that times are harder and a girl has a better chance. But if you don't truly care about gender then just go for it!

Healthy baby dust headed your way!

Thank you for letting me know atomic, I stopped drinking it.
I had an attempt and I am just waiting to see the results and I read the thread of Yeast infection because my attempt was affected by it and I am very nervous waiting to see if it worked. What do you think about this attempt?
So we BD on April 11, however, I actually peaked on the 17th and BD right when I saw it. I counted it as being one attempt because after that we didn’t do anything else because I had what I think was the most horrible Yeast Infection. I felt weird since April 11 (our first unprotected BD) and when we BD on the 17th we had to use tons of lube because It felt like the beginning of a Yeast.

Would the Yeast ruin the possibility of conception this month? Have you meet women that get pregnant with yeast infection? I feel hopeful and I’ve had weird dreams and some cramps 3DPO 4DPO and on 6DPO. I am now 7DPO.

Also, I’ve been getting the past few months yeast infections IF and only if my husbands finishes inside of me, which makes me think that our PHs are really different? We eat different, he has more of a boy friendly diet, (he comes from a family of only boys, aunt has 3 boys and he has a brother)

Thanks in advance for your opinion <3


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, that would have been one attempt.

Yeast doesn't prevent conception, but the remedies can sometimes interfere. You said you used tons of lube as well, which may cut odds of conception too. Yes, I have met many, many women who have conceived while fighting a yeast infection (ps - we actually all have yeast inside us all the time, it's only when it grows too much that it causes symptoms. So technically, everyone conceives with yeast on board!)

It's super common to get yeast infections when hubby finishes inside. Semen is higher pH than the vagina. This has nothing to do with his diet or how many brothers he has, it is nature's design to help sperm stay alive. So sometimes it can cause yeast infections. It's also very common to get YI just after ovulation even without having had sex. This is true for both those of us with all girls and with all boys.

[gdelsolra01]

Yes, that would have been one attempt.

Yeast doesn't prevent conception, but the remedies can sometimes interfere. You said you used tons of lube as well, which may cut odds of conception too. Yes, I have met many, many women who have conceived while fighting a yeast infection (ps - we actually all have yeast inside us all the time, it's only when it grows too much that it causes symptoms. So technically, everyone conceives with yeast on board!)

It's super common to get yeast infections when hubby finishes inside. Semen is higher pH than the vagina. This has nothing to do with his diet or how many brothers he has, it is nature's design to help sperm stay alive. So sometimes it can cause yeast infections. It's also very common to get YI just after ovulation even without having had sex. This is true for both those of us with all girls and with all boys.

Thank you so much atomic! I will update you if It was a successful conception <3


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[Kazzzz]

How exciting good luck I'm swaying pink too and plan to do first attempt in 2-3 months if we don't slip up lol been naturally swaying girl diet wise since early feb so a slip up wouldn't be terrible but I'd like to get clomid into my sway before our attempt and I'm trying to avoid my kids sharing birth months lol

[treens]

Good luck to you also swaying girl :))))

[gdelsolra01]

Thank you so so much girls? I actually got my period on April 30th. I felt really sad but after getting all the negatives I expected it. I’m would love to conceive this month because my husband wants to share birthday months with our next baby since my baby boy and I are just one day apart and we think that would be fun. My boy was born May 13th, 2020 and I was born May 14. I would like to know if my odds of conception are high if we do FR instead of just one attempt? I know that the lubricant and the yeast infection may have caused the fact that we didn’t conceive this month since I’m pretty sure when I ovulated or at least when I had my LH surge. Also, will sylk lube or preseed live be good? I want to sway for a little princess but, at this point our main priority is to conceive so the baby can be born in February like my husband hopefully. What would be the best plan? One attempt or FR? And the best lube to conceive? Thank you so much in advance for your opinions! [emoji3448][emoji172]


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[atomic sagebrush]

What you have to ask yourself, though, is whether you want a better chance of conception even if it means a much lower chance of a girl.

FR doesn't necessarily mean you'd have more than one attempt. FR means that your husband would ejaculate on his own or with you, with a condom, 7-10 days in a row before having the one attempt. I think what you're thinking of is called "daily BD through O" where people have sex every day straight through ovulation.

I don't recommend that for swaying (since we know that 3 attempts may be too blue friendly) but additionally because surprisingly, it's not even that good a shot of conception. When people have daily sex, starting before the fertile window opens, that means that all the biggest and best batches of sperm are already gone before the fertile window opens, and depending on how long you guys BD before O, it can mean men are not releasing as many sperm as they'd otherwise be even with just one attempt. So you're really getting the worst of both worlds - undermining a sway for something that may not even boost your chances of conceiving very much.

If you want to get pregnant quicker, there are three things we can do:

every 4 day method in the 72 hour pattern, which is better chance of conception than one attempt, but is still pink friendly. You'd start this after your period ends and carry on till you're sure you've ovulated.

every 4 days plus one more attempt at positive OPK, even better chance of one attempt, but may be slightly more blue friendly. You'd start the e4d after your period ends and carry on till you're sure you've ovulated. Then add in an attempt at first positive OPK, whenever that falls, while continuing on with the e4d.

or SMEP, sperm meets egg plan and you can read about that here: https://thespermmeetseggplan.com/ This is the best chance of conception, and will be FAR better than BD daily thru O, but may be more blue friendly due to the number of attempts.

A small amount of Preseed would be best. Larger amounts may sway blue so stick to the minimum amount needed to conceive with.

[gdelsolra01]

Thank you so much atomic! I think we may go with e4d and add an attempt at first positive. The first positive is when the test line is darker? Or when the test just gets higher ? Maybe I lost ovulation last time because I tested with first urine, I just learned that way it’s not accurate. I am definitely doing more of a lazy sway, I’m still breastfeeding my 2year old and I am being investigated to see if I may have von wilderbrand after giving birth (my blood is thinner than normal) so maybe that may be in favor for a girl? But again I would love a baby more than anything. It doesn’t matter the gender. It would be nice to have the experience of having both genders but another boy would be a blessing too! [emoji3531] thank you for all the info atomic and I’ll let you know if it worked and what we ended up doing


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[atomic sagebrush]

First positive is when the test is as dark or darker than control. A faint test line is negative, only if it's the same color or darker is it a positive.

Yes it's best to test with OPK after lunch, that's the time of day the hormone reaches the highest concentration in the urine.

Awesome! I LOVE having 2 boys together, I often joke that boys should come in pairs like shoes. So no matter what, you can't lose - boy or girl, both are awesome!

[gdelsolra01]

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I think it may be another month that we didn’t conceive. We didn’t do any pattern to sway. We traveled with family in the day I believe I ovulated on the 18th. Even though I did see EWCM 13-15, I also took Claritin just to make sure I didn’t get any allergic reaction (yeast infection as a consequence). In one of the apps, that I believe it’s wrong says I’m 13 DPO, in the other one it says I’m 10 DPO. Today I tested but I think I am just imagining a line that it’s not really there. Is it possible to get pregnant 3 days before expected ovulation? I didn’t do OPK because I ran out, if I am not preg this cycle I am definitely restocking.

Omg I love that thought! Boys come in pairs!! Having another boy sounds so so much fun. I can’t wait to be blessed with another baby [emoji3531]



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[gdelsolra01]

Forgot to say that on the 21st we BD and I had tons of discharge similar to EWCM. I got super confused because my CM had already change to creamy but it was again in egg white consistency. Maybe my body stopped ovulation because of driving overnight? And I was finally ovulating 3 days later?


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[atomic sagebrush]

It is entirely possible you ovulated later! Yes, it's possible to get pregnant from an attempt 3 DBO but it's not as likely as 1-2 days before. The apps are wrong all the time, so if you were still seeing symptoms on the 21st then it's possible you Oed then.

[gdelsolra01]

Thank you atomic! Also wanted to show you my past OPK results. I waited for the “peak” now I think I got a positive way earlier at day 13 of my cycle and that may be also why I am missing ovulation https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220528/9422aa4bfaf80937b129ee72cc81b572.jpg


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[gdelsolra01]

Came to give an update! Yesterday I tested and got the faintest line ever at night and today I got my BFP[emoji322][emoji3531]


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[atomic sagebrush]

The apps are just junk - they get it wrong more often than they get it right and their whole "high and peak" use of the term is not in line with natural family planning methods.

There is no way to really know for sure when O occurred from these pics, but I agree it is just as likely that you surged CD 13-14 range and then the later positive tests were from the secondary estrogen surge. We see this happen quite a lot, where people either don't start testing soon enough to detect the first surge (like, people who usually ovulate later ovulate more like CD 14 sometimes and haven't been testing) or they get a false negative early on and then only detect the SES so assume they ovulated a week later than they really even did.

HUGE congrats!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[gdelsolra01]

Hey Atomic! Just wanted to give a little update! I did a peakaboo clinical test and came back that I am having a little boy [emoji170] not sure if to wait to share the gender with the family, we were planning on doing a gender reveal party but I have read that it could be wrong since I’ve carried a boy in the past? Probably we are going to go ahead and do the party anyways and hope that it was right hehehehe


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[treens]

Congratulations, wishing you a happy healthy pregnancy with a sweet healthy perfect little one :))

[gdelsolra01]

Thank you so so much [emoji3531][emoji3531][emoji3531]


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[atomic sagebrush]

I think you should wait till you have confirmation by either an ultrasound or a NIPT test. The clinical Peekaboo is ~probably~ accurate but I'd just wait to avoid a whole hullabaloo in case the result wasn't accurate.

They compensate for the small amounts of male DNA from past pregnancies so that's not the issue, I'd just err on the side of being certain. But then agian if it's not a biggie to you that's of course not a concern! Have a great time!

Huge congrats on your new son!!

[gdelsolra01]

Hello atomic! Just for fun I would like to know what you think about the nub theory in these pictures? Just took today the NIPT test and I should know for sure in a week. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220728/35d85df68f22b271a347715764c6c4d3.jpg


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[gdelsolra01]

More photos! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220728/3a9d13d284e177923738c54ead2fc29f.jpg


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[gdelsolra01]

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One more hehehe


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[gdelsolra01]

I forgot to say! I am 12 weeks and 5 days and baby was jumping a lot! So excited for the new member! Hehehehe


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[treens]

How exciting!!! Congratulations!!!

[Girlboyohboy]

So happy for you!!

[gdelsolra01]

Thank you so much!!


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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm not too sure we can tell from these. The nub area just really isn't that clear and I'd just wait for the NIPT.

[gdelsolra01]

Confirmed baby boy! [emoji3590] had a SH and currently on bed rest. Hope everyone is doing great!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Huge congrats on your new baby boy!!!

How much fish oil and DHA are you taking?? Any other strong blood thinners (even something that seems minor like eating a lot of walnuts??)

[gdelsolra01]

Omg! I was taking DHA and also cod liver oil for a while. Then I just couldn’t swallow so many pills and would take one or the other. I was also every now and then eating yogurt with walnuts. I did stop taking the cod liver when I myself realized by google search that I may be taking more vitamin A than recommended. I had told my doctors all the medications I was taking and didn’t say a word. I have not been taking as religiously my prenatals but I do take them probably, being realistic like 3 times per week. I’ve been feeling guilty about that too. Even tho in my previous pregnancy I felt the urge to take a lot of vitamins because my family was always telling me how I was harming the baby by being vegan, but since I started breastfeeding I craved red meat like crazy and that’s why I started to eat it again.


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[gdelsolra01]

And they didn’t say a word*


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[atomic sagebrush]

Most doctors don't know. I was just put in this position where I've been able to observe, first with sway supplements and then later to extrapolate it to other things like fish oil and other herbal supplements, where it has been glaringly obvious to me that blood thinners are causing or contributing to SCH.

Occasionally eating yogurt with walnuts is GREAT. Some people have read that walnuts "aid implantation" so they're eating an insane amount of them and that coupled with other blood thinning supplements like DHA and cod liver oil and a host of other things can be too much and trigger or worsen bleeding. Are you off the DHA totally now?

[atomic sagebrush]

And they didn’t say a word*


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Doctors' attitudes towards supplements is basically like "I can't be bothered to do any research and it's at your own risk, so whatevs" which is kind of unfortunate, since most of us expect they have some inkling regarding safety. :/

[gdelsolra01]

Most doctors don't know. I was just put in this position where I've been able to observe, first with sway supplements and then later to extrapolate it to other things like fish oil and other herbal supplements, where it has been glaringly obvious to me that blood thinners are causing or contributing to SCH.

Occasionally eating yogurt with walnuts is GREAT. Some people have read that walnuts "aid implantation" so they're eating an insane amount of them and that coupled with other blood thinning supplements like DHA and cod liver oil and a host of other things can be too much and trigger or worsen bleeding. Are you off the DHA totally now?

I’ve stopped taking it probably a couple days before reading your response. Then I was consciously not taking it. Finally after so many months still bleeding brownish (kind of spotting but a little more) it finally stopped. I am going tomorrow for my anatomy scan and hopeful for good news!


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[gdelsolra01]

Doctors' attitudes towards supplements is basically like "I can't be bothered to do any research and it's at your own risk, so whatevs" which is kind of unfortunate, since most of us expect they have some inkling regarding safety. :/

That’s so annoying!! Thank you so much for giving me so much info. I was looking for a reason, which they never were able to answer, I know it could have been that or multiple other things. But just having a more specific reason is so calming. I caused me a lot of anxiety and well… the bleeding and watery blood coming out was so so scary. The doctor in emergency even without doing much research told me I was miscarrying and that they couldn’t do anything about it. Even after he saw the ultrasound and I asked him why it may have happened he said that miscarriages happen, but my situation wasn’t even a miscarriage. I know it may have not been his expertise which I don’t blame him at all but it was so confusing and only by speaking to a friend who her dad is a doctor he was able to explain to me more about what a SH is, and probable causes. Again thank you so much Atomic for all your knowledge. I really appreciate really learning and understanding what’s happening and love to meet people that are willing to enlighten and bring knowledge to others. I really really appreciate you!!


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[gdelsolra01]

I’ve stopped taking it probably a couple days before reading your response. Then I was consciously not taking it. Finally after so many months still bleeding brownish (kind of spotting but a little more) it finally stopped. I am going tomorrow for my anatomy scan and hopeful for good news!


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Not months sorry, weeks. 6ish-8 to be exact


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[atomic sagebrush]

I get that it's not their area of expertise, but bleeding in pregnancy is SO common that it's really quite ridiculous that doctors are not aware that a woman can have bleeding, even heavy bleeding, and have it not be a loss! Even if they don't know about the blood thinner connection, it seems like they should at least know, as ubiquitous as it is, that it is possible to have bleeding and have it still end happily!

I hope you get good news today! Please keep us updated!!

[gdelsolra01]

I get that it's not their area of expertise, but bleeding in pregnancy is SO common that it's really quite ridiculous that doctors are not aware that a woman can have bleeding, even heavy bleeding, and have it not be a loss! Even if they don't know about the blood thinner connection, it seems like they should at least know, as ubiquitous as it is, that it is possible to have bleeding and have it still end happily!

I hope you get good news today! Please keep us updated!!

Yes! And more if it’s a doctor in emergency. I hope people don’t go through the same experience. If it wasn’t for the kindness of the nurses I probably would have cried the whole time.

The hematoma got resolved! They couldn’t see anything in the anatomy scan. They did found a cyst in the brain which the doctor said she was not concerned about because I already did the genetic testing. It was a Choroid Plexus: RT CPC. She said it was small and could be just tissue that was mistaken. I googled it and it said that babies with trisomy 18 have it. Praying that it’s nothing as the doctor said. He has also had the bladder full and both kidneys has fluids. The right with 4.5 mm and the left with 3.5 mm. She said it’s common with boys and I do remember my first having that as well and needing an ultrasound to see if it got resolved.

I know I shouldn’t but I also get worried about his percentile. And more than I feel huge for just being 20 weeks. Like I feel I’m 30 weeks already. But he is in the 43%. I also think I conceived him later because they are calculating my cycles to be 28 days when I’ve consistently am 32 days. So maybe that’s why?

Maybe I’m stressing more because I am not taking as regularly my prenatal than I did with my first. I feel somewhat I’m failing the baby. I know a well balanced diet should be enough, I think it’s just placebo or peace of mind somehow that the prenatal gives me?

Would you recommend I take again the dha or should I not at all? I did recall taking dha + cod liver oil + yogurt and walnuts for breakfast. I don’t know if that’s a combo that made everything happen, plus rocking my toddler for an hour to make him fall asleep. [emoji1787]

Sorry it’s so much info all over the place! Hope you are having a great start of the week Atomic!


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