Can someone please explain SUN and MOON affecting girl sway!? HELP!

[Genevive]

Hello, fellow pink swayers!

I posted on here a couple months back and was taking clomid to help me ovulate. I went off of the clomid because it gave me pretty frightening side effects. I had also only recently been getting treatment for Hashimoto's. Well, after quitting the clomid, and FINALLY spending some time on the right balance of thyroid meds, I'm happy to say that I ovulate on my own!

DH and I have had some financial struggles and we had to move for his job and we've not been able to focus on TTC, so we're planning on really putting in the effort this June. This also gives me plenty of time to focus on my own health/creating a healthy space for Baby because I have actually not been in good health for many years due to the untreated Hashi (bad mental health, poor sleep, choosing quick and easy meals because of fatigue, letting the winter blues keep me from exercising for 50% of the year, the list goes on).

ANYWAY, the meat of the post here is that I have (what I believe is) a strong girl sway planned for June. Then I started hearing about moon phases/ions and got all freaked out. I found a study (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16295726/) from India in which 40/42 women who conceived within 24 hours of a full moon had a boy. Now that my cycles have finally gotten regular and predictable (at least they've been this way for two months now, hoping it stays this way), it looks like I'll only ovulate around the time of a full moon for the next several months. :/

Also, another factor is that I currently live in Alaska, where we have almost 24 hours of sunlight in June and maybe close to 20 hours in July. Is all that sunshine going to sway boy? Or, if the moon is swaying boy, can the sunshine somehow cancel that out and sway girl? But can all those health benefits of sunshine sway boy? I plan on spending A LOT of time outdoors in the coming months and my 1 hour of cardio will be jogging/walking outdoors.

I would not be so worried here if it weren't for that study. I know 42 is not a lot of people, but 40/42 is shockingly high. It's also a study posted on PubMed, which makes me think it's kind of legit.

Thanks in advance!

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh wow so happy to hear that you have had success ovulating on your own, that's fabulous news.

There are so many issues with this "study" I hardly know where to start. To start with, PubMed actually just puts up all sorts of really sketchy things, it's just a clearinghouse of published studies in anything but absolutely overtly fraudulent journals (and still a lot of terrible studies sneak thru). There are studies on PubMed dating back decades that have been fully debunked that are still on there. There are studies that are just from absolute garbage sources on Pub Med.

Secondly, these researchers are from a dental college. Why are they studying these things? I looked up the college itself and none of the programs they offered have anything to do with anything other than dentistry. Are they even affiliated with this school and if so why are they researching this subject?

Additionally how do they know what the women's pH was, when they ovulated, when they had sex in relation to ovulation, etc? Are the women reporting this information to the researchers themselves? How do they themselves know when they ovulated (even highly trained people using cutting edge tech could not get their O day right any better than one out of three days?) When was this "pH" tested and by whom? pH varies wildly even just over the course of a few hours. It is all but impossible to ever have vaginal pH occurring naturally that is as high as the pH reported in the study and pH in the 6s is NORMAL pH, not "acidic" as it's claimed there.

And finally, studies done in India must always be taken with great skepticism as gender-based abortion is endemic there and it really skews the results (particularly if a person joined this study out of a desire for a particular gender). We have no way of knowing if the participants of the study used this method to control their outcome.

This is a "study" done by someone trying to sell some method of gender swaying OR who has been hired to produce such a thing by someone else (these researchers have several completely unrelated studies, leading me to think they're simply up for hire to run studies for whoever hires them). A scientist would not ever test such a thing as this randomly, they have an end goal in mind that they're trying to prove. When charlatan "scientists" are trying to prove something, they can arrange the study however they want to pick and choose who they use as their test subjects. They can do 100 samples that don't work, and then pick out the one group that seemed to find a correlation. It's one of the biggest scandals in the field of science right now, is how often this happens. They basically test till they find a group that seems to fit the bill (or manipulate the data till it does) and then find some journal to publish it.

When something seems too good to be true, it usually is. We would not be getting the type of results we're getting if magic particles are coming from the moon on a mission to invade people's vaginas, LOL. We would not see trends in people's diets, exercise patterns, careers, etc (which have been published repeatedly and confirmed by other researchers, instead of a fly by night medical journal in a 3rd world country) if this all boiled down to having sex on Tuesday instead of Thursday. It just makes no sense.

As for the moon phase people, which I'm assuming is how you got to this "study", think of it this way - if anyone on Planet Earth was sitting on the secret to getting a baby of a particular gender 40 out of 42 times, or 98% or whatever it is they're claiming this week, does it make any sense whatsoever they'd be selling calendars or "readings" or whatever on the Internet? This information would make people a billion dollars if they had it. It would revolutionize the entire world, likely cure overpopulation, and even more amazing, would prove that magic was true!!! Yet somehow they're always skulking around on Facebook selling calendars for $10, it makes no sense at all.

We have really found that pH is useless for swaying: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

I have a massive debunking of ions here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/63173-ion-insanity.html?highlight=ion+insanity

Lunar Phases here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/82045-lunar-method-dr-jonas-experiences.html?highlight=jonas+method
and also here https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/82032-trying-perfect-my-girl-sway-3.html?highlight=jonas

As for the sunlight, we have some vague data that indicates things like disrupted sleep with weird daylight patterns may sway slightly PINK overall because your body just gets totally mixed up by that. It cannot sway by much, because if it did, with so many people living in the North in Alaska, Canada, Scandinavia, Russia, etc we'd see wild disruptions in the gender ratio. Someone would have noticed that by now if it made any appreciable difference.

You're on the right track! Stay the course and don't get sidetracked by things that fly in the face of what you know in your gut to be true - magic isn't real and the moon does NOT care what the gender of your baby is!

[Genevive]

THANK YOU, Atomic! It's funny because I've learned about the sex-selective abortion thing/major son preference in India, but hadn't put it together. I guess I didn't know much about PubMed either--I thought they were a little more reliable LOL! But everything you say makes a lot of sense and puts me at ease quite a bit.

One more question though, that has a lot more science to it than just ions...can all the vitamin D from the sun affect my sway? In the summer, my family is visiting and we're planning on having bonfires and things that go late into the bright sunny night. I'm not suggesting that I go sit in a windowless room all day (lol), but is it a bad idea to spend, let's say, 18 hours per day in the sun?

I also had borderline low Vitamin D levels just a couple months back because, well, it's very cold and dark here in the winter months, so I barely leave home at those times. I started a Vitamin D supplement in February (which is pretty much the end of the very dark days I'd been experiencing for a few months in a row), and I feel like that supplement caused some immediate anti-fatigue benefits. But now that the days are much, much longer than they were just a month or two ago, I have stopped taking the supplement because I've been spending time outdoors. (I see my endo next week, and we can run a Vitamin D test again--I feel like my levels have stabilized, but if not, I'm not going to do anything dangerous just for a sway!)

What do we think? Can the natural vitamin D from sunshine sway ever so slightly?

I started a LE PCOS diet at the "12 week ahead of time" mark (I don't have PCOS, but you'd recommended this route earlier because of my Hashi :) ), I'm doing 1 hour of cardio at least 6 days per week (mostly walking and running), I drink black coffee, take psyllium husk (fiber) in a smoothie of girl-friendly foods like berries/almond milk/frozen spinach/cinnamon, and we're planning on one attempt at +OPK. I'm being careful not to lose too much weight, as my BMI is a 19 at the moment (I'll do more walking, less running, if it becomes a problem).

But despite all that, I think I'm pretty blue friendly. I'm very type A, outspoken, easily stressed, and VERY competitive (oh how I wish I weren't though :rofl: ). I also have an obsessive personality, and that's right, I'm "swaycessed," which I know is bad. I'm doing my best to work on it, but I've had this pattern of obsessing over things for 30 years and it's hard to break it now lol!

I also notice most people I know with Hashi have boys! Not saying that's a trend backed by science, just an observation that makes me nervous. It also makes me want "to win," which is also bad haha. My husband also lifts weights (though he is 37 which helps us?), which I think is a pretty blue activity.

The reason I bring all those blue friendly things up is because I'm worried that sunshine *might* sway blue just ever so *slightly*, and I'm afraid it will be enough to tip the odds the opposite way.

Thanks again for your response, Atomic! I'm such a fan of yours! :cheerteam:

[atomic sagebrush]

It's not so much that Pub Med isn't reliable per se, it's more like there is SO MUCH on there and they really rely on the journals themselves to do the heavy lifting. Bad studies are supposed to be weeded out beforehand, but there are so many journals out there and the researchers are pretty savvy at figuring out ways to game the system.

The human body really only absorbs Vitamin D for short time periods every day (they used to say 10 minutes but that's just a rough estimate) Then it shuts off production, I suppose because it's possible to OD on Vit. D. Your body just stops making it after not that long to prevent overdoing it. Even people who live at the equator often are Vit. D deficient! So I honestly think you shouldn't worry about that. Additionally the angle of the sunlight won't be quite as intense anyway so I think that normal sun exposure that you would normally be getting at that time of year is just fine. It will always be less than what you get in a supplement!

I do get that question a lot and I have never felt like anyone's sway was harmed by getting sunshine. What I HAVE felt harms people's sways is staying cooped up in the house staring at the computer obsessing over swaying 24-7! I vastly, vastly prefer to see people getting out and about, not thinking about swaying at all, than to be hiding from the sun while indulging their swaycession to the fullest extent!

Long story short, get outside and enjoy that midnight sun! Trust me, it will break the swaycession habit and it's THAT above all else that will mess with a sway.

Drop the cinnamon. You do not need it at that BMI and it's bizarrely effective at making weight fly off.

The excellent news is that we have seen a lot of people with Hashimotos who still get girls on the alt. diet! Keep up the good work, you got this!

My pleasure, glad to help!