March Chit Chat

[begonia]

FX Lobella AND DM are holding baby girls on or before Weds!

DM I *hated* late pg sex!!! I didn't do it this time around; with the other 2 I did, always hoping it would make them come out! Never worked. So this time I just didn't even bother ... I felt miserable and the LAST thing I wanted to do was sex. Poor DH is in the longest dry spell of his life!

Zan I think hypnobirthing is fascinating. I had planned to try it with this one but really, once I found out it was a girl I was just so depressed I really didn't care anymore. So I didn't bother. I had a great birth anyway but IF we have #4 I think I might look into it again.

Mocha I hope there is some breakthrough for boy swayers! If I had done an IG sway I'd try atomic's next time, but having read just about every study I can find myself, I'm convinced Atomic's is a better approach, esp for a boy sway. The thing I hesitate most about it like I said, I've read a lot of the studies, and some research points to things that really would be impossible to impact intentionally ... some of it is just down to luck and whether the month you get pg happens to be a month that your own personal body chemistry is favorable to the gender you want. IMO at least. Tricky business this swaying stuff!

[Glittergirl]

DM no baby yet? Keep coming on to check! Ewww I really hated DTD in late pregnancy...never worked for us and this time I was so miserable I didn't even attempt it and she came a week early--others were always a little post due so I hear ya on post due dates--they suck :) LOL I always liked the old dudes too--dh is 9 years older and I was in love with Clint Eastwood when I was a teenager :). HaHa Dh is also going through a dry spell. My 6 week checkup is coming up and I may be sneaky and tell him my OB wants me to wait a little bit. Im so maternal and dry from breastfeeding I can't even pretend to want sex! He's used to it though, he jokes there will be no action for another 2 years since I breastfeed forever...
Ok ladies sending you all labor vibes! I'm getting lonely here waiting for someone else to have sleepless nights, sore boobs, and spit-up on them :)

[Glittergirl]

sorry for the run-on sentences that dont make sense....im always holding Eva and its hard to type one handed!

[Mochagirl]

Yeah, my poor dh is in a dry spell too. We haven't dtd since I conceived this little bean in December! :oops: He keeps asking why I'm not horny since I'm in my 2nd trimester now, but honestly I don't have the slightest desire....

Z - I'd be interested in hypnobirthing, but I'd definitely have to attend classes solo since we don't have a babysitter we can call. Is there any way I can learn about it through DVDs or a book?

That reminds me of another issue that you ladies might understand. Do any of you feel the odd one out to still be having babies when all your friends are done? All of my friends stopped at 1 or 2 kids, which means their kids are all in the 'sweet zone' now of being school age and low maintenance, and here I am starting all over again! I don't know anyone my age still having babies, and certainly no one having their 4th kid! They all think I'm insane. They're also all back at work now which means I don't know any other SAHMs I can hang out with. I don't exactly have much in common with the 20-something first time moms I see at the library, and I worry I'm going to get lonely this time around since in the past I kept my sanity by planning lots of playdates and socialising with other moms then....

[lobella2]

Mocha all of my friends think I am crazy to have 3 kids. They all stopped at 2. I do have one friend that just had her first, but all my other friends have school age kids also. I never would have felt complete with just 2. I always wanted 3. I would even consider a 4th down the road, but my husband would never even consider that. He would have been fine with 2, but let me have my 3rd.

GG I can't wait for sleepless nights, sore boobs, and spit up:) I am so tired of being pregnant!

My dr. told me to have sex like 3 times a week now to bring on labor. I did not do that with the other 2 and they were early. I am so not in the mood this time either. Late pregnancy sex is way too awkward.

[Mochagirl]

I think if I'd gotten a pigeon pair, I would have been content with two. Since my first were twin boys, though, I knew I'd end up with 3 or more since I still wanted a girl. Looking back now, though, I'm glad it happened this way. I grew up with 3 big brothers and so will my daughter. I think it was meant to be :HH:

[DoulaMama]

Well that was awful!!!! LOL! Now I'm crampy as hell, the baby has dropped even lower and my SPD pain is radiating down to my knees! Lovely:( I laid in bed trying to keep the "deposit" as close to my cervix as possible...and my hubby kept cracking jokes about the piranha sperm eating away at the mucus plug... lol! Nice.

M- I think it is so awesome that the family makeup of your family will be the same as your own, growing up:) How perfect :HH: oh and if you're interested in Hypnobirthing- You can order a used but in great condition Hypnobabies study course. It's a great course, comes with 6 DVD's, and all the paperwork. If you want, I can ship mine over to you. It would cost less in shipping than it would for the study pack. Just let me know :D

B- I soooo totally hope that a swaying breakthrough happens in the next couple years and you can more confidently try for your boy:) I hear you on the third tri. sex...gawd I hate it. I tend to heal really fast after birth so I'm usually 99% ready by 2w PP. I think he's hoping that will be the case again...lol

GG- I can't wait to join the sleepless nights!!! I've never been this excited about getting this show on the road, before. I just can't wait to see what my daughter looks like!!! Eeeekkkk!!!

Z- I hope the classes continue to be great! You're going to have a lovely birth:) Thanks for the labour vibes!


I hope these annoying cx's actually do something...maybe "baby day" is sooner than I think! I'll update if anything changes!! :)

[Mochagirl]

DM - what a sweet offer! Do you really think the course could help? I didn't handle my natural posterior birth all that well last time...

You are a brave woman to dtd when you're already so uncomfortable. I hope all that yuckiness is worth it and you go into labour really soon!

[dannikins]

we are all waiting for your updates DM....:)

good luck!

[zanacal]

Mocha - I was going to suggest you ask DM about DVDs as she's mentioned them before but she got there first :D I certainly think it can help. I've used CDs in the past and with DS3 I found it really helpful in early labour but I lost it when it got really intense because I hadn't involved DH and he couldn't help me to 'bring it back'. If there's any way you can get DH on board, even with DVDs/CDs, then do - it'll give him something useful to do anyway :D I don't have any friends close by who have babies (or any close girl friends at all actually!) but I don't know if I'll try to meet any new ones either. Most of the mums who go to baby groups are first time mums and our lives would be poles apart - and when those groups are on, the boys are out at school/pre-school and baby is asleep, I don't think I'll want to go out anywhere!

My hypnotherapist told us that she had an anaesthetist client who had surgery on his lungs with only hypnotherapy (her in the room) and no other pain relief - he had his chest wall cut open, his ribs broken and his lungs operated on. Yikes - no thank you!

I have no problem whatsoever with third trimester sex :D

[Mochagirl]

Thanks, Z. I'll try to get dh involved but he's really crappy at supporting me while I'm in labour so I doubt he'd be very helpful.

You have my thought exactly about trying to meet new moms - we have nothing in common with them. My only problem is since i haven't worked out of the home in 6 years and my playdates have become rare because all my friends work again now, days often go by where i don't talk to anyone over 6! I'm already feeling a little lonely and am worried it'll get worse.

Oh, and what do you mean you don't have any close girlfriends - you have us!!!! :HH:

[Flava]

Hey girl ! I never read or post here (I think it's not my place?) anyway just saw DM is almost 40 weeks?? wow!
And don't do sex to bring up labour it's never works and hurts.
I got DD4 at 42 weeks so who knows when they come huh? LOL Hopefully soon!

Im also all alone here no friend at all so others with no friend welcome to chat with me!:o

[Mochagirl]

Flava - once a part of a due date group, always a part of that due date group IMO. Even though you and I both lost our babies, these ladies are all still so welcoming - and I want to keep up to date on their babies being born!

Sorry you're lonely. You're a SAHM too? I'm lucky that I do have some girlfriends who I go out with in the evenings once in a while - it's just during the day that I don't have anyone to talk to.

[begonia]

So are we all going to have virtual play dates here? :) It's an interesting topic Mocha! I made 2 new friends in the last 2 weeks because of DD3; there were 2 other moms I noticed at kindergarten pick-up who also had new babies, and they were their 3rd kids too. Both of their new babes are boys of course :rofl: because EVERYONE here is having boys except me. They both had PP to start anyway. But anyhow, we all got together for coffee last week and I liked them, and esp since they have olders too we'll all be on similar schedules in terms of when we can get together. DD1 and DD2 had lots of playdates when they were preschoolers and it was mostly for ME to be able to have moms to talk with! But lots of people in my area have 3. If I have a 4th though I'll be a little strange :) But many of my friends have 1 or 2 now, so would be having their 2nd or 3rd when I have #4, so I'd probably have some friends with kids around the same age.

Glitter I'll join you in the spit-up on sleepless one handed typing! DD3 is in her car seat right now though. It really cracks me up that the car seat is her happy place. When she's tired and can't get comfy and is wiggly I just buckle her in to her car seat and she totally falls asleep! Usually for only 30-45 minutes, but it's enough for me to shower or get a load of laundry done. Or spend time on here :) Oh and FWIW my 6 week appt is next week and I am FOR SURE telling DH we have a couple more weeks before we're doing business again!

DM kudos to you for getting the job done; if only it would make her come out! It really is so fun to see what they look like isn't it? Sweet little baby faces :HH:

[Mochagirl]

You're lucky there are so many moms with similar families to yours. I have one friend whose dd is only a little older than ds3, but everyone else i know has kids 5 and up. I don't know anyone having a baby, and certainly not their 4th! Actually, I lie. There's one woman who's a casual acquaintance from the local twin association who has 4 year old twin boys, 2.5 year old boy and is expecting another boy in June. She seems nice enough - I may try to strike up a friendship with her. I suspect she's experiencing some GD, though, from some comments she's made, so I don't know if it would be tough to hang out with me once I (hopefully) have my little girl. I know I found that rough when I had GD....

[begonia]

I've been lucky meeting lots of people with kids around the same age ... we moved to our city 6 years ago when DD was 6 months old and I knew NO ONE. But through our church and preschool I've gained a really great group of friends. We actually still have people bringing us dinner 3x a week right now; it's completely awesome :)

I bet you're right Mocha, about the other Mom having some GD, and it potentially being hard for her to be around you and your new DD. I still have a tough time with one friend who is pg now with a DS after 2DD. I'm happy for her because I know it is what she wanted, so it's not like I can't be happy for someone else ... it's just a reminder of how badly I wanted that for myself and how sad I was at that point in my own pregnancy. I really wanted that joy. I still do!

OK I have got to go get laundry done or DD will have no clean clothes for school this week :)

[Mochagirl]

Yeah - when I was pregnant with ds3 one of my best friends was pregnant at the same time - her ds1 is the same age as my twins. She didn't care about the gender and actually thought she's prefer a boy, but of course ended up with a girl (is it just me or is it only people who don't care about gender who get a pigeon pair?). I found it really tough to hang out with her for a long time. She tried hard to understand my feelings, but just didn't get it. She's say things like 'You can buy pretty things for her if you feel the need to buy girl clothes' - like that's helpful! After about 6 months or so, though, I found it a lot easier to be around them and even before I knew this babe was a girl really didn't feel any twinges of jealousy when I was with them.

We moved to our city about 6 years ago too (well, 5.5 years ago), when my twins were 6 months. I was lucky too and made some great friends through the library and dh's work (wives of some of the profs who were also on maternity leave). It's SINCE then I've had trouble meeting people. I don't really have time to go to library classes anymore - the schedule doesn't work well for school drop off/pick up times - and when I do encounter other moms at places like that they're about 10 years younger than me and usually having their first baby. There are a few moms I chat with at my twins' school, but most of them have 2 kids and only a couple have babies. I did meet one really cool Mom of 3 at my boys' swimming lessons a few months ago and got her email address. Maybe I should be proactive and email her to get together. I just hate seeming so desperate or forward. Jeesh! Why does making mom friends have to feel so much like dating??!!

[dannikins]

im gunna come right out and say it.
people with their pigeon pairs shit me!

i know so many people who have been lucky enough to have one of each, and then they just stop and dont have anymore.
and they go and on about the whole gender thing, and how you should be happy with what you got etc, but they have no bloody clue, they are lucky enough to have one of each, they dont have any idea what its like being the only female in a house full of males, or to not be able to buy any of the cute little girls things etc.
i have snapped at a few of them, when they start their 'holier than thou' crap,
people that have one of each could never possibly understand, and i think they need to keep their opinions to them selves.

sorry ive been a moody cow all week.....:)
pretty sure bub has dropped, i can breath again, got lots of pressure going on down there, and going to the loo 2-3 times a day, (im strictly a once a day person normaly) im constantly tired, emotional and irritable.....7 weeks to go....

[Flava]

You guys are lucky making friends. Maybe no one likes me? I don't make any friends no clue why...but I also don't see other become friends at pick up when I go for DD3. The other kids school we never go they come home with the bus.(or just a few times a year)
We also don't go anywhere because my girls don't play in any sport ect. DD1 had swimming lessons when she was 6 but no one made friend with me...also dancing still no friends.
And i was trying!
Oh well.
So where is DM?

[Inglewood]

Hi all, loved catching up with ur posts, had pages to read!!

Hope everyone is ok? The twins are doing well, 13 days old now! Still so teeny and it's strange after 2 big boys.
LOVING having dh at home, he's fab and helps without a whim and the house has never been tidier!! lol

Dannikins, beautiful pic!

I have weighed myself today and have 20lbs to loose! not better than last 2 pg's where I've had at least 28lbs to loose!

DM, hope ur ok?

Not long for many of u ladies!! can't wait to hear, sounds like ur all getting prepared. Dh and I not had sex since I was 30wks and what an experience that was with a HUGE belly!! lol He's not fussed and not possible at the mo anyway! THANKFULLY! last thing on my mind with a sore wound and 2 babies!! The girls sleep beside each other in a cotbed in our room and dd2 always wakens dd1 by hitting her on the face! so not sure it will last long?

Take care all,

Mocha, still smiling for u and ur PINK news! :) xx

[begonia]

Mocha you should be proactive and email that mama :) It is TOTALLY like dating though isn't it? I mean when the other 2 moms and I got together for coffee last week it was very much ... like a first date. Somewhat awkward, but I did really like them. Especially since neither said a darn thing about my having 3 of a kind when they both had BGB. In fact one of them was from a BBGG family growing up and said she always wished she could have had another sister :HH: So she's my new best friend :rofl:

Dannikins ITA re: PP. I was at the baby store this weekend with all 3 of my DD and there was a grandma there with her son and daughter in law, and their PP. She looked at mine and peeked in the carrier and said "3 girls. Oh my. My my my. Well we can't all be so lucky as to get one of each, can we?" as she smiled at her son and DIL. Seriously. My 6 year old is not an idiot lady. She JUST HEARD you call us unlucky. So I of course smiled and said we felt incredibly lucky to have 3 girls, it was our perfect family, and I wouldn't change a thing. I walked out of there hating people, LOL.

I wonder did y'all ever notice family make-up growing up? I was part of a PP but 2 of my very best friends were both GGG, with one of them having a B at the end, families. I never thought twice about it.

Flava making friends as an adult is hard I think! I think you do have to be proactive about it. Now that DD1 is in a school instead of preschool I'm meeting all of her new friends parents, and there are a couple that we have become friends with that way. But it isn't easy, that's for sure.

Here's hoping DM being absent is because she's having that baby :)

Ingle that's pretty funny/cute about one DD waking the other :) Can you tell them apart or do you think they look completely similar? My bestie is an identical twin ... she and her sis look very different to me but I think it's because I know them so well. FWIW she thinks being a twin is the best thing ever :) Glad to hear DH has been a help! Mine isn't, LOL! But I didn't expect him to be so it's no big deal; I knew what I was getting into :bigsmile:

[DoulaMama]

I'm here! 2 days til 40w...sigh. Tried to stay off the computer yesterday as I had some sewing projects to finish. I was really thinking I would have this baby on the weekend. My hubby was hoping for the same thing;) He gets 2 weeks off and is pretty excited about meeting this new little one:) I've actually never seen him this excited with any of the others. He's pretty sure he'll get a "come home now!" call this week...lol I hope so!!!

Ingle- So happy to hear that you and family are well!! :D We need some more pics!!!

M- I'm a dummy..I meant Hypnobabies CD's...sorry, preggo brain. They are great though. I can totally send them to you:) Hypnobabies seems to be the most popular hypno birthing course out there.

Flava- It is really hard to make friends here too. I got into being a doula and 2 of my closest friends are doulas too. Other than that I have a close friend through a mommy group and a neighbor who's a very close friend too. That's it though.

Z- You do have us!!! xoxoxo Wish we were closer!! I'd love to have a tea with you:)

I have to read through the last 2 pages again for personals...I'm on my phone which is annoying to post from:-/
Talk to you all a bit later:) Thank you for all the thoughts!!!:HH: You guys are awesome:)

[auroara78]

Begonia, as part of a GGBG family, I always thought it was raining girls, haha. Maybe this is where my assumption of having daughter(s) came from: My mom had 3 girls and I always thought I'd have at least 2 and *maybe* a boy would be OK.

It was when my childhood best friend had two girls and I had two boys did I realize that maybe there was something at hand like a ironic fate, since ever since we were playing Barbies as young girls, she always said she never wanted a daughters, girls suck, and she only wanted to have boys, and I defended girls and said she could take my boys and I'd take her girls :Rofl:

Funny how we ended up with exactly what we said we didn't want as kids.

I'm in a private Facebook group called "mom needs a drink" its a group organized by a distant friend (our husbands were best friends for a while so we got friendly cuz we were often stuck together, lol) and she posted an article about gender disappointment on our private facebook page and blantaly said the article was for me. I felt a little called out on it (our group comprises of like 10 other moms that she knows). All I ever said was I'd like a girl after two boys, and because of that, somehow I'm getting treated in the group like I don't love/appreciate my boys? I don't understand why GD is so taboo; I love my sons down to my core, but why is wishing aloud for something different so heinous?

Anyway, I asked her in the comment section is she really aganist maybe having a girl one day? She had a preemie son. Her answer was: No, not against having a girl, but hate all that princess, and girl glitter crap that goes with it. And watch, she'll end up with a pidgeon pair, because in my experience, people with pidgeon pairs are always the people who really seem to be indifferent to the whole gender thing!!

Sorry to vent, but I guess because my scan's exactly a week away, emotions are a bit high right now.

And DM I hope this means you're having your baby if you're not posting :) Can't wait to hear the birth story and hopefully see pictures! I think if this is a girl, I'll be going nuts day dreaming over who she'll look like, since my two sons look similiar, I have an *idea* of what another boy *may* look like.

Begonia, I have had this sense for a while that I'll eventually have a 3rd boy. I don't know if it's now or later, but I just have a gut feeling that children may be what my mom had in reverse: BBGB. I just feel that he's out there, destined to be born to me. Doesn't that seem silly? Still, I can't shake how I feel about this.

Mocha, I think it's so lovely that your daughter will have the same setup you did. I've said here very often, but I was/am much closer to my older brother than my sisters.

[DoulaMama]

Well, I typed a bunch out earlier but then my computer screwed the pics up...so here we go again...
Please don't quote this post! Thank you! I'll be deleting later.

[DoulaMama]

The henna is a tree(of our lives)~ All of our horoscopes for our family are hidden in the branches. The Aries symbol is in the middle(PLEASE let this baby come before the 21st!!!) for this babe. I love trees:)

[auroara78]

Beautiful pics DM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You look FAB for just being days away from having a baby! I am hoping you have an Aries too, I am an Aries, I think it's a great sign :rofl:

[zanacal]

Aww, what lovely photos DM. I love the carseat cover you just threw together in a day - I took all morning on Sunday to take up the boys' bedroom curtains (they've been waiting 3 years to be done!) and one is a good cm or two shorter than the other. I give up, I'm not crafty!!

I can't believe how rude some of the people you come across are - Begonia, that woman was a smug cow!

Glad to hear those darling girls are doing well Inglewood, they're so adorable :D

I went to hospital to have a heart monitor fitted today and I wear it for 24 hours so they can monitor my heart rate and pattern. I was really worried about my palpatations etc. a couple of months ago but now I finally have the appointment I'm not! I thought it would be good to go through with it for reassurance anyhow so I'm back in the morning to see a consultant and hopefully he'll tell me I'm fit and healthy :D

[ladybug]

You look awesome Doula!!!!! I have been stalking this thread for news of your delivery.....Good luck :)

[Flava]

DM - you are so pretty! I love the henna (now why I never had anything like this??)
The seat cover is very cute DD4 had that same white thing in the car seat it's so comfy I love it.

[Mochagirl]

I wonder did y'all ever notice family make-up growing up? I was part of a PP but 2 of my very best friends were both GGG, with one of them having a B at the end, families. I never thought twice about it.


Come to think of it, my two best friends from childhood came from a single gender household - one with all boys and one with all girls. Actually, it was that particular boy family that helped me decide to try again. I was talking to my Mom about the mom of those boys - who used to be her best friend - and she said she'd always regretted not trying one more time for a girl. I didn't want that to be me. That being said, she now has two beautiful granddaughters, so I'm sure she's found happiness.



Glad to hear DH has been a help! Mine isn't, LOL! But I didn't expect him to be so it's no big deal; I knew what I was getting into :bigsmile:

Yeah, mine has never been a help either - even when I had newborn twins! Whenever I hear about those types of Dads who wake up in the night to change diapers, etc. and help with the breastfeeding in those early days I get jealous. My dh barely woke up when I was in LABOUR with ds3 much less when I was breastfeeding, and I think he's only changed a handful of diapers on all 3 kids over the 6 years we've had them.

[lobella2]

You look great DM. I love the carseat cover. I have been debating about buying one of those. I did not have one with my other 2, but I am considering it for this one. Unfortunately I can't sew or I would make one myself:)

Z I hope all goes well with your heart monitor. A friend of mine had to use one of those a few years ago, but fortunately all turned out fine.

Mocha my husband has never gotten up to help with any baby stuff at night. I have a friend whose husband gets up and changes the baby's diaper and then brings the baby in to be nursed. I guess I should have trained mine better:)

[zanacal]

I'm sure my husband thinks the biggest benefit of me breastfeeding our children is that he doesn't have to wake up during the night! If he changed the baby's nappy he'd only come and ask me a dozen questions about how to do it anyhow so it's much easier just to do it myself! He does other stuff instead though so I really don't mind. He'll do most of the looking after of the older children when the baby arrives and take them out for lots of walks so I can rest and he's pretty good at doing the washing and ironing - he does the boys' school uniforms every morning :D

Thanks lobella x

[Mochagirl]

lobella - yeah, I always tell people you can't teach old dogs - or old husbands - new tricks. I should have gotten out the whip and made him help back when my twins were born, but I didn't. Now it's too late. It didn't help that with ds3 I used cloth diapers - he had a perfect excuse not to help with diapering since he had no idea how to use them! He'll be even worse with this little girl because not only will she be in cloth too, but she'll have confusing girly bits he'll be afraid to clean!

Z - my dh is like that too the odd time he changes a diaper. If (heaven forbid) there's a poop, it's like a major emergency. He starts calling from the nursery for me to bring plastic bags, etc. and often dumps ds into a bath to clean because he finds wiping the poop so daunting. Um...I clean 1-2 poops a day and can do it blindfolded with one hand tied behind my back!

[zanacal]

That cracked me up Mocha, my DH is exactly the same shouting for the bags etc!

[dannikins]

i have officially dropped, here is a pic from thismorning 33 weeks.
even done it bare belly so you can see it properly.
back fat and stretchmarks included.....:)

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/dannikins_photos/33weeksdroppedbb.jpg

[Inglewood]

Begonia, I can tell the difference, some people that visit struggle to.....inc my parents!! lol But DD2 has a rounder face and lighter hair (or less of it!).

Did post a pic for a while then removed it, will do it again sometime I see ur all online. x

Hope ur all well? xx

[DoulaMama]

We're on the April chat thread now:) Hope you are well too!! Good to "see" you on here!!
xo