TTC Girl - question about skipping breakfast

[~Lotus Blossom~]

How many hours are all you lovely ladies managing between your evening meal and your meal the next day (probably lunch)?

I'm having trouble skipping breakfast, so am messing around with skipping the evening meal instead (or eating very early) and having a late breakfast. BUT I'm not sure if that is spacing the two meals enough (15 hours currently).

Also - any Mum's out there pregnant with girls - would love to hear how many hours you stayed empty between dinner and lunch :)

[clarabell]

I understand the girl diet is very hard, I tried to do it but obviously not well enough as I had boy number three five months ago. What I don't get is all my friends have girls without swaying, all of them ate breakfast and caffine. Its so not fair I too am desperate to ttcDD one day - please God. Good luck with the diet anyway, as I have seen from other posts at least the ponds fall off. (not sure if they need to on you but I could do with shreading a few)

[dramabird]

I'm still in the process of TTC a girl. I probably finish dinner sometime between 7:30-9 p.m. at night and then don't eat again until AT LEAST noon ... although if I can push it later than that, I do. When I'm at work, I'm most likely to eat lunch between noon and 1 p.m., but the days when I'm home I tried to hold off until at least 1:30 p.m. So I would say that my very shortest interval between dinner and then lunch the next day is 15 hours ... but sometimes I may go 18 hours or more.

Atomic has mentioned that it's easier for some people to wake up, skip breakfast and keep pushing through without feeling too terribly hungry ... but once you have that first meal on board, it's like your body wakes up and says, "Yes! More food! More meals!" And I find that to be true for me. I can hold off without eating until noon, 1 p.m., 2 p.m., sometimes even past 3 p.m. ... but once I've eaten lunch, I became ravenous in just a few hours.

In general, my rule of thumb for myself is: Absolutely no lunch before noon, absolutely no dinner before 6 p.m. and no snacking in between. That may mean I eat "lunch" at 3 p.m. and dinner just three hours later ... but those limits really help me stick it out.

GL!

[amari]

That's plenty of hours without eating, why are you worried about going any longer than that? Just skip breakfast and you are fine! Don't worry about it!

[~Lotus Blossom~]

Thanks guys for the info - great to hear what others are doing.

Amari - that 15 hours I'm doing is by skipping dinner / eating dinner early and breakfast later than usual. If I wait till lunch to eat my blood sugar seems to crash and I get anxiety attacks and shaky and just feel TERRIBLE.
So I'm trying different things to see if I can still achieve a stretch of hours without eating that works better for me. But I wasn't sure how long was long enough - if you know what I mean. :happy:

[~Lotus Blossom~]

I'm still in the process of TTC a girl. I probably finish dinner sometime between 7:30-9 p.m. at night and then don't eat again until AT LEAST noon ... although if I can push it later than that, I do. When I'm at work, I'm most likely to eat lunch between noon and 1 p.m., but the days when I'm home I tried to hold off until at least 1:30 p.m. So I would say that my very shortest interval between dinner and then lunch the next day is 15 hours ... but sometimes I may go 18 hours or more.

Atomic has mentioned that it's easier for some people to wake up, skip breakfast and keep pushing through without feeling too terribly hungry ... but once you have that first meal on board, it's like your body wakes up and says, "Yes! More food! More meals!" And I find that to be true for me. I can hold off without eating until noon, 1 p.m., 2 p.m., sometimes even past 3 p.m. ... but once I've eaten lunch, I became ravenous in just a few hours.

In general, my rule of thumb for myself is: Absolutely no lunch before noon, absolutely no dinner before 6 p.m. and no snacking in between. That may mean I eat "lunch" at 3 p.m. and dinner just three hours later ... but those limits really help me stick it out.

GL!

Wow you are doing an amazing job! Well done!
What do you drink during those hours till lunch? I get so bored with water.

[atomic sagebrush]

How many hours are all you lovely ladies managing between your evening meal and your meal the next day (probably lunch)?

I'm having trouble skipping breakfast, so am messing around with skipping the evening meal instead (or eating very early) and having a late breakfast. BUT I'm not sure if that is spacing the two meals enough (15 hours currently).

Also - any Mum's out there pregnant with girls - would love to hear how many hours you stayed empty between dinner and lunch :)

Eating an early dinner and a late breakfast is perfectly fine for TTC pink! There's no magic to it, just trying to keep blood sugar on the low side for as many hours out of the day as we can. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

I understand the girl diet is very hard, I tried to do it but obviously not well enough as I had boy number three five months ago. What I don't get is all my friends have girls without swaying, all of them ate breakfast and caffine. Its so not fair I too am desperate to ttcDD one day - please God. Good luck with the diet anyway, as I have seen from other posts at least the ponds fall off. (not sure if they need to on you but I could do with shreading a few)

Hi Clara and welcome! Congrats on your third son! My third son is a beautiful and amazing guy and I can't imagine not having him! :heart:

If you swayed on the French Gender Diet or InGender Diet last time, we have a different diet on here called the LE Diet which may work better for you. It's in the Dream Members section along with recipes, meal plans, and stuff, but I can message you a simple version of it so you can have a look before deciding if you want to go in for the Dream Membership. :)

The breakfast does really seem to help but it's not a magic bullet - plenty of exceptions on both sides of the aisle. It's not that there is anything magic about skipping breakfast, it's that people whose blood sugar is on the lower side tend to have more girls and the skipping brekkie is just a trick we use to keep our blood sugar down for awhile. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/1877-how-we-made-girls-girl-moms-pink-dust.html

We have found that there is no need to give up caffeine for TTC pink - you would have to drink a near-fatal amount of caff for months to affect your calcium absorption anyway, and we don't even know if calcium sways in the way that the FGD/IGD claim. We are having equally good results NOT taking cal-mag! here is a link to a three part essay with probably more info than you ever wanted to know about calcium and how it may not sway pink after all (links in first essay to the other two.) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/610-calcium-conundrum-controversial.html

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm still in the process of TTC a girl. I probably finish dinner sometime between 7:30-9 p.m. at night and then don't eat again until AT LEAST noon ... although if I can push it later than that, I do. When I'm at work, I'm most likely to eat lunch between noon and 1 p.m., but the days when I'm home I tried to hold off until at least 1:30 p.m. So I would say that my very shortest interval between dinner and then lunch the next day is 15 hours ... but sometimes I may go 18 hours or more.

Atomic has mentioned that it's easier for some people to wake up, skip breakfast and keep pushing through without feeling too terribly hungry ... but once you have that first meal on board, it's like your body wakes up and says, "Yes! More food! More meals!" And I find that to be true for me. I can hold off without eating until noon, 1 p.m., 2 p.m., sometimes even past 3 p.m. ... but once I've eaten lunch, I became ravenous in just a few hours.

In general, my rule of thumb for myself is: Absolutely no lunch before noon, absolutely no dinner before 6 p.m. and no snacking in between. That may mean I eat "lunch" at 3 p.m. and dinner just three hours later ... but those limits really help me stick it out.

GL!

That is exactly how I am as well, once I start eating then I eat all day or I'm miserable, but if I never really get started, then I'm honestly not hungry, not shaky, no blood sugar crashes, etc.

That having been said I am sure that 12-15 hours is fine, drama, you are a superhero to go that long. Don't overdo it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks guys for the info - great to hear what others are doing.

Amari - that 15 hours I'm doing is by skipping dinner / eating dinner early and breakfast later than usual. If I wait till lunch to eat my blood sugar seems to crash and I get anxiety attacks and shaky and just feel TERRIBLE.
So I'm trying different things to see if I can still achieve a stretch of hours without eating that works better for me. But I wasn't sure how long was long enough - if you know what I mean. :happy:

and for you, it seems that waiting too long to eat breakfast isn't a viable option. We're looking for the strategy that will keep our blood sugar down for as much of the day as we can, without being miserable! no one has to skip breakfast if that doesn't work for them, it's just soemthing that has helped for many of us. :) Good luck.

[clarabell]

Thanks Atomic Sagebrush for the reply, yes I would be interested in reading about the diet and the effects or not of cal/mag. No I didn't follow the french or IG diet (I hadn't heard of either till I was already preg with DS3 suffering with GD, then I beat myself up for not doing it strict enough) I had read that an increase in calcium and dairy helped so when I was TTC I ate more dairy and drank loads of milk (which I hated) I also took cal and mag supps, but again not sure if to the recommended amount. I seriously didn't know there was so much help out there on line, then I feel guilty for regreating not trying harder as my number three son is my life and so cute, but still I would dearly have loved a girl and hope to be blessed one day? I don't know much about the French Diet but have read the IG so would be interested to see the similarities and differences. thank you. What about irons, do they really make a difference?

[~Lotus Blossom~]

Thanks AS - as always, very reassuring!

Clarabell - welcome! I'm new here on the forum myself, and have found all the info Atomic has provided so amazing, and the people here so very welcoming. I hope you find the right combination of things to assist you in getting your girl.

I totally get where you are coming from about your feelings of longing for a DD and the guilt accompanied with that longing.

I wish you the best of luck in your journey!

[dramabird]

Wow you are doing an amazing job! Well done!
What do you drink during those hours till lunch? I get so bored with water.

Caffeine-free Diet Coke. I have a close friend who has been known to guzzle half a dozen diet sodas a day and she has two daughters, no sons, so I've seen this at work. (I also have a friend who, along with her DH, is a vegetarian and once again, two daughters, no sons.) So I'm a believer in diet sodas and no meat as being good tools in a pink sway.

I was also drinking peppermint tea with Equal until I started taking Saw Palmetto (Atomic thinks they might somewhat cancel each other.) I do some Crystal Light, too ... especially on the days when my sodium levels are creeping up to 1000 (40 mg in a Coke isn't too bad, but when you're drinking three or four or five, it adds up to your total totals).

In the evenings, with dinner, if I'm not in the 2ww, I also sometimes treat myself to vodka or white wine (I'm enjoying the latter right now, so forgive any typos! :)).

[dee]

are you not supposed to have breakfast at all or can you have something like yogurt

[hbcd123]

Hi littlebairn when i concived dd i had breakfast every morning within an hour of waking always hungry and then lunch at 1pm and then i didnt eat again untill breakfast next day ate this way for years silly i know!! and i have a sweet tooth and rarley eat fruit and veg!and we dtd in pm so low blood sugar was HUNGRY!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks Atomic Sagebrush for the reply, yes I would be interested in reading about the diet and the effects or not of cal/mag. No I didn't follow the french or IG diet (I hadn't heard of either till I was already preg with DS3 suffering with GD, then I beat myself up for not doing it strict enough) I had read that an increase in calcium and dairy helped so when I was TTC I ate more dairy and drank loads of milk (which I hated) I also took cal and mag supps, but again not sure if to the recommended amount. I seriously didn't know there was so much help out there on line, then I feel guilty for regreating not trying harder as my number three son is my life and so cute, but still I would dearly have loved a girl and hope to be blessed one day? I don't know much about the French Diet but have read the IG so would be interested to see the similarities and differences. thank you. What about irons, do they really make a difference?

Weird I know I answered this question but now it's gone?? never be afraid to give a post a bump or even message me to tell me to answer it...I have 4 kids and answer dozens of Q's some days so if I get interrupted before I post my reply, sometimes I think I answered a q that then I never saved to the forum.

The IG diet is actually based on the French Gender Diet - they both have a heavy emphasis on calcium and magnesium as these magic bullets for pink. You can read the case against cal-mag and swaying here:http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/610-calcium-conundrum-controversial.html (3 part essay, read all three, links to the second two are in the first one. The discussion afterwards is also interesting.) We have the full FGD in the Dream Members section (along with IGD) and also my LE Diet (which I think I sent you the simple version of?? I better doublecheck that.)

I do not think ions make any difference at all because X and Y sperm do not have different electrical charges http://genderdreaming.com/forum/science-behind-gender-swaying/1562-what-real-differences-between-x-sperm-y-sperm.html and so they simply cannot be attracted or repelled by any "ions".

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi littlebairn when i concived dd i had breakfast every morning within an hour of waking always hungry and then lunch at 1pm and then i didnt eat again untill breakfast next day ate this way for years silly i know!! and i have a sweet tooth and rarley eat fruit and veg!and we dtd in pm so low blood sugar was HUNGRY!!

This is a great example of how breakfast is not magic! It's low blood sugar that matters, breakfast is just one way to keep your blood sugar down that many people find it easier to stick to.

[atomic sagebrush]

are you not supposed to have breakfast at all or can you have something like yogurt

No breakfast at all is best. Some people have some coffee or tea or diet soda, which is fine. It's best to avoid anything that has carbs and protein in it, like yogurt.

[pink carol]

I read in many girl sways that they drank some coffee with sweetener for breakfast only. Would a latte be okay if we count the milk within the allowance of the day? I don't like plain coffee. I'm more the latte type.
And what about chai latte? I love chai tea!! Is it pink or not?

[janie]

i think the milk would help the blood sugar:(

[atomic sagebrush]

I read in many girl sways that they drank some coffee with sweetener for breakfast only. Would a latte be okay if we count the milk within the allowance of the day? I don't like plain coffee. I'm more the latte type.
And what about chai latte? I love chai tea!! Is it pink or not?

That much milk in one sitting may raise blood sugar and also tea seems to be somewhat boy friendly for reasons we don't totally know. You're better off with coffee and just a splash of milk or cream.