Need advice Please...EXTREME PINK SWAY.....PLEASE LOOK AT POST AND COMMENT

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Help ladies....I think I made a mistake here..... Ok I have 5 boys already, my last boy was from a extreme gender sway with supps, EGS, Lime douche, Diva Cup ....etc. But I think where I messed it all up was doing too many attempts! Anyways, I was going to to High Tech this year, then suddenly changed my mind because of cost!! I know sucks to have that factor weigh so heavily to determine my future!! I want a daughter so bad and decided after talking with 2 ladies that did this method, to do it and pray it worked!! Now, that its done....I am freaking out!!!!! I am currently in the 2ww.....so here is my story!!!

After 6-9 months of taking supps.....Calcium 1200mg, Magnesium 500mg, Folic acid, Baby aspirin 81mg, Vit E. My hubby on Cranberry, Calcium 500mg, Magnesium 250.

I just had an IUI with CLOMID and Sperm Spinning (not Erickson) but Kaneko method But my DR said that she wanted to inseminate me when O was on the tail end (hence 0+12). My dr. a fertility Doctor, said that when O is at near, Girls tend to be attracted more to the egg. So I was monitored with ultra sounds on 3 separate days. I did an HCG trigger shot on a Sat early e6ve and then my IUI was at 11:15 am on Monday morning. I had 5-6 follies originally but at the time of the IUI there were 3 and 2 were already collapsing to release the egg, so that means two dropped. Which freaks me out!!! So basically I just did spinning with clomid, at 0+12 with Supps too!! I am praying to GOD this worked and praying that If I have TWINS in there that they are girls!!! I am freaking out, but there is nothing I can do now!! Just laugh with my hubby if I get twins out of this!! I am 38 and my hubby just turned 41 this month and his sperm after wash was 103 MILLION!!! Crazy!! I really feel that I am pregnant and I just pray that I have a girl in there!!! Anyone want to comment to make me feel better or make reality set in!!!

[Twins6boysinall]

I don't know anything about the method you used but really would love to find out. But I think your odds should be better since you used your suppliments for so long before.
I really hope you get your girl!
Wanted to add sounds like the timing was good too!

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thank you....I really hope too!!! Its like a Gradient density sperm spinning....It's called the Kaneko method. The embryologist I spoke to for an hour about the process. He actually said I could take calcium and mag to help create the environment for a X sperm. My Doctor also inseminated me right at the opening of the cervix verses just wherever so I really think its going to work. I am just terrified Now!!! My doctor also had a lot of knowledge about girls are conceived 12 hours after O. I was impressed because of all the knowledge I have learned over the years on In Gender site. So, my odds for a daughter are a little higher than conceiving naturally because of the supps, clomid, timing of IUI!!! BUT I just increased my odds of TWINS also!!!!! The Kaneko method they use only for girls for some reason. If I wanted a boy, then they wouldn't recommend it! So, PRAYING!!! If I am gonna get twins out of this please let it be GIRL TWINS!!!


FORGOT TO ADD: I also skipped breakfast for a year!! At time of IUI my tubby was growling and was hungry. All I did was drink CL a glass.....Nothing else so my Blood sugar was low!!!

[Twins6boysinall]

Sounds to me like you did a good job. I wish I could find it out here. But only two clinics I found do something other than pgd and it's the Ericsson. I don't get why most do just pgd. Not everyone can afford to go that method.
And twins are so much fun. I would love to have twin girls!

[nuthinbutpink]

Where did you have it done?

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

I went to California Fertility Partners. I only went there because Its one of the best and I met 2 ladies that went there and both got their girls!!!!


And yes.....I would take twins girls, although I am sooooooooooooooo GOOD with only one!!! I am not gonna be greedy!!!
HEALTHY COMES FIRST!!!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck! That's not the type of methods that most of us use but hope it works for you.

I just want to point out for the benefits of anyone reading this, this may be a perfectly legitimate post but at the same time has the feel to me of a sales pitch and may be phony. I find it very unlikely that any quality reproductive endocrinologist would ever advise IUI at 12 hours past ovulation because most do it immediately before or soon after ovulation. Take with a grain of salt.

Also 500 mg of magnesium is too much for health and I would prefer it if no one took that much. Has the potential to make you very ill.

[nuthinbutpink]

Luv?

[Twins6boysinall]

What did it cost? I looked them up they do have a good pregnancy rate for ivf. I wish they had to show rates on all the services they offer.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Yes....this is LUVR4BOYZ from INGENDER and I'm sorry Atomic but are you in the medical field??? Do you have a MD or specialty to make that assumption? Yes, my FERTILITY DOCTOR who is a board certified physician in Obstetrics and Gynecology and Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility, TOLD me that she wanted to inseminate me LATER in O because I wanted a girl and X sperm thrive in the environment at the END of Ovulation!! The conditions for some reason or another are more HOSTILE for Y bearing sperm. It's not 100% not even close but it does HELP with swaying more towards the X sperm. Then on top of that I had the spinning done, which is only about 70-75% effective for a GIRL......They wouldn't even recommend this method for a boy! California Fertility Partners are one of the Leading Fertility clinics so they are pretty reputable! For the record, my doctor has worked with Microsort and really DID NOT recommend that for gender selection! The long term effects are really unknown even though they have been doing it now for some years. We still do not know if there is any damage to the sperm during the process which is very very harsh! Also, correction on my Magnesium.....I only took 250mg 1 a day with my calcium which also had Vit D in it!!

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Its costs like 200 for insemination , 200 for spin, then the ultrasounds which are 210 each. I had 3 of them during my cycle, which i am so glad because at insemination I got to see the follicles collapsing....it was just where the doctor wanted them to be. I am also 38 and I took clomid 50mg and responded well...not too much just right. I also had to buy the clomid and trigger shot and I am on progesterone which is EXPENSIVE!! Hope it all works out for me.......no turning back now!!!

Atomic, what did you mean "that's not the methods most of us use"???????? I did diet....no red meat, low sodium, lots of yogurt, dairy.......I did 0+12 once (with insemination) . Supps too......I just altered with spinning and insemination.

[fivebabies]

Good luck to you! Sounds like you just might have done it! Don't forget to join the 2 week wait thread! How many dpo are you now? :)

[purple sky]

Just wanted to wish you luck!

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thank you Both!! I hope it worked!! Just feeling a bit nervous! I am 5 DPO or IUI which is the day I O'd. I will join the 2ww thread!!!
Fivebabies....your pic of your baby is beautiful!! That face is so adorable!

[wilma_five]

As I know how it is to have 5 boys I wish you all the luck!! Praying for a girl for you!
I respect the choice you've made, I would be to scared to do it ;)

[Lassie1982]

I'm sorry Atomic but are you in the medical field??? Do you have a MD or specialty to make that assumption? Yes, my FERTILITY DOCTOR who is a board certified physician in Obstetrics and Gynecology and Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility, TOLD me that she wanted to inseminate me LATER in O because I wanted a girl and X sperm thrive in the environment at the END of Ovulation!!

No, atomic doesn't have any MD's as far as i know, but what I do know is that she has amassed more knowledge in the subject of swaying then most of us on this forum put together, that she has studied and analysed more information then most of us will in a lifetime, and that any opinions she expresses are in the best interests of everyone.

Best of luck to you :luck: Hope you get your dream gender :)

[nuthinbutpink]

Hi there! Atomic is just protective of information and simply watching over everything. I assure you she wishes you well! I'm glad you found something to try and I understand your nerves!

Good luck and keep us posted!

[nuthinbutpink]

Who else tried this? Anyone we "know"? Do they have statistics they quote for pregnancy and gender result? I'd love to find info for other possibilities. There is an International doctor ladies use for IVF that offers spinning for IVF patients and it does seem to work so here's hoping for you too!

[ELP]

Best of luck with your BFP!! 2 x Pinkies would be a dream come true :kiss:

I think maybe it was the mention of the controversial Cal and Vit D which Atomic may have meant was how we're looking into things differently:) But just the mention of hunger and low blood sugar screams pink to me!! Best of luck!!!!!!:luck:

[rainbowflower]

not sure what advice you need if you're in the 2ww, but good luck!
with O+12 it's usually considered quite hard to catch the egg (due to the egg only lasting 24hrs in most younger fertile people) but I really hope you get lucky - you have two shots at it if nothing else so that's fantastic! :D

do let us know how you get on!

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thanks ladies!! I know Atomic is just trying to protect here but you cannot make assumptions about things that you really aren't an expert on. Yes, I know she has a wealth of info but my doctor does fertility on a daily basis and has been involved with some well known studies. You have to remember that my doctor has seen it first hand......also swaying has not really been proven to work. There are too many factors and everyones body is different. Yes, 0+12 is hard....I have no idea how women do it monthly and actually get a girl....luck I guess. I know I was in it because I had an ultrasound and my doctor explained in DETAIL the collapsing egg and all that. It was very interesting!! When I had an ultrasound before my trigger all my follicles were round, one bigger(17mm) than most, and then a few the same size (11mm). Then I triggered 2 days later then IUI 40 +hrs later. When my dr. did the ultrasound right before IUI I had 3 follicles only now showing......2 were collapsed and 1 was starting. So that meant they had been released already the 2 collapsed. This is all not a guarantee but it does help a bit!!!!
I don't know anyone on here that has done it and its really ironic that I met a lady at my sons school who told me about it and did it. She has a little girl after 3 boys. Then I was at the park and a lady and I were talking and she said quietly, that she did this and got her daughter! I thought then it must be an omen!!! I mean I want a daughter so badly, but in all honestly doing IVF was so stressful especially the money part......and I couldn't risk all that money and no baby or put my family in the hole!! So, I really reasoned with myself and said this is it.....if this doesn't work its not meant to be!! Every baby is a true blessing.......I know that if I come out without a daughter I will be upset but at least now I can FINALLY move on! I am done being pregnant.......this is it!!! I really am excited for a new baby but if I am pregnant and its a girl or 2 girls or whatever.....I will be OVER THE MOON!!!
Also, yes, the whole week of O......I didn't eat anything in the morning (i never do) and at the time of my insemination I was so hungry.....well, not starving but my tummy was starting to growl during it!!! I did drink CL and I am hoping the low blood sugar thing helped a little! Everything counts right!! I know she's in there......I know a little girl or 2 is in there.....I just feel it!! Every gender prediction chinese calendar said GIRL! Not one said BOY!! I usually see 50/50 when I do those! I swear they all said GIRL and I was in GIRL moon! I know I am being superstitious.......but it helps me stay SANE and confident!!!!

[rainbowflower]

there's a lot to be said for gut instinct! does seem like destiny had this in mind for you too with all those little hints :)

when is test day?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes....this is LUVR4BOYZ from INGENDER and I'm sorry Atomic but are you in the medical field??? Do you have a MD or specialty to make that assumption? Yes, my FERTILITY DOCTOR who is a board certified physician in Obstetrics and Gynecology and Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility, TOLD me that she wanted to inseminate me LATER in O because I wanted a girl and X sperm thrive in the environment at the END of Ovulation!! The conditions for some reason or another are more HOSTILE for Y bearing sperm. It's not 100% not even close but it does HELP with swaying more towards the X sperm. Then on top of that I had the spinning done, which is only about 70-75% effective for a GIRL......They wouldn't even recommend this method for a boy! California Fertility Partners are one of the Leading Fertility clinics so they are pretty reputable! For the record, my doctor has worked with Microsort and really DID NOT recommend that for gender selection! The long term effects are really unknown even though they have been doing it now for some years. We still do not know if there is any damage to the sperm during the process which is very very harsh! Also, correction on my Magnesium.....I only took 250mg 1 a day with my calcium which also had Vit D in it!!

WOW.

Everyone who knows me knows I am no fan of Microsort so not sure what your point is there.

Hey, you want to throw away thousands of dollars on badly timed IUI attempts, be my guest. I really do hope it works for you because you deserve a girl and my sole motivation in any of this is trying to help people get their DG in a safe and sane way. However I have a responsibility to the hundreds of people who will read this thread to inform them in no uncertain terms that every reputable RE of which I am aware, Dr. Potter, Dr. Sher, Dr Keefe, and so on, times IUI for maximizing odds of pg and 12 hours after ovulation is NOT gonna maximize odds of pg for anyone. Many women's eggs barely live 12 hours after ovulation and eggs may be deteriorating by that point. This is medical FACT whether it comes from me or a doctor.

When someone who I do not know, and has never posted on this site before, comes out of nowhere with a revolutionary new method for gender swaying that is available for a fee, sorry but my bullshit detector goes off. I saw it happen dozens of times on IG and it's kinda my job here to warn people about unscrupulous people who are only too happy to take $$ to promise gender when the fact of the matter is, nothing short of PGD/IVF can offer that guarantee.

[atomic sagebrush]

Its costs like 200 for insemination , 200 for spin, then the ultrasounds which are 210 each. I had 3 of them during my cycle, which i am so glad because at insemination I got to see the follicles collapsing....it was just where the doctor wanted them to be. I am also 38 and I took clomid 50mg and responded well...not too much just right. I also had to buy the clomid and trigger shot and I am on progesterone which is EXPENSIVE!! Hope it all works out for me.......no turning back now!!!

Atomic, what did you mean "that's not the methods most of us use"???????? I did diet....no red meat, low sodium, lots of yogurt, dairy.......I did 0+12 once (with insemination) . Supps too......I just altered with spinning and insemination.

We don't always (or even mostly) do things the way they do them on IG. I didn't elaborate because it's not my business when someone is already possibly pg to pick apart their sway and make them secondguess themselves, it serves no purpose other than to upset people.

Really do hope you get your DG.

[nuthinbutpink]

I don't want everyone worked up over this. I "know" luv from years back on the forums.

We all want to find something that helps our odds. I am pleased to know there is a fertility doctor out there that is at least trying to apply some swaying factors using medical intervention to assist the process. Basically, if you are an O+12 believer, it follows that and yes, pregnancy chances are lower but it was only 4 hours later than a typical IUI which is normally 36 hours after trigger.

I'm impressed you got 2-3 follicles on clomid!

To each their own and if everyone would just use their old usernames we wouldn't wonder who everybody is, LOL!!

Luv, do keep us posted. Someone was asking about an IUI option on the HT forum and I gave them this thread. I really hope it works and you get your girl!

FWIW, Gender Dreaming is not a mirror of IG. We did not believe or follow a lot of what was recommended on IG and we have our own methods, different in many ways, for swaying.

Ultimately, what we choose to follow is up to the individual and that is what we prefer. There is no one right way for swaying. That is what we believe.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thank you Nuthinbutpink....I like your approach!!! I really am bothered by this Atomic! I really do know you are only trying to watch out for others here but you are NOT A MEDICAL EXPERT!!!!! I know you devote a lot of time to this and really believe in swaying but was it successful for you??? I did NOT by any means come on here to try and sway people to try this at all! Its not by any means 100%!! I am not a fraud or whatever you said initially about my post that you thought it was a fake post or something to that effect! I am a woman in her later 30's who has FIVE BOYSm who has swayed done shettles etc and has NOT given up on a GIRL yet!!! I came on here first because IG is a mess lately and second because I did this and wanted other ladies to keep my spirits HIGH or tell me if they knew others that have done this method!! MY dr. is VERY VERY VERY reputable!!!! A lot of people "Known" people go to them!!!! It's just a theory about the timing and like most theories....there are flaws!!!!! I said a comment about the Microsort because I was just giving info on what my dr thought about it....in no way attacking you!! Although, you seem very confident with dr. potter and he does it!! BTW, I too have researched a lot in the last FIVE years and have spoken to DR. Potter on many occasions and Dr Nelson, extensively and was suppose to have been doing IVF this month but I decided at the last minute NOT to!! I wouldn't do anything unsafe for myself or my unborn child and this was another way of having my husbands sperm separated (somewhat) and inseminated with a better odds of getting as girl than just dtd!!!! Everyone has a choice.....and this was mine! It may work, it may not!! I just hope to God it does.......and I have prayed like no tomorrow!!!! But, for someone to attack me on here saying I am trying to sell something is ridiculous!! I came on here for support!!!! I am not here to preach a method, and I do have 2 people that it has worked for, which both have multiple boys!!! So, I was confident going in!!!

Nuthinbutpink......I actually had 3-4 follicles at time of IUI and I am 38!! My husbands post wash was 103 million! He's 41!! That is the only thing that scares me about the whole thing....his sperm count was HIGH and lots of girls are born with low sperm count BUT that is NOT always true!!!! There are boys born to men with low low low sperm count. So there is always an exception!!! I had my hubby on cranberry and cal/mag so I am hoping that played a little part with the X sperm!! I can only be positive......and I was until my thread was made a mockery!! I am just like all the women on here that want a DAUGHTER....I am no different! I just took a risk and chanced it and sometimes If that is the only resource you have YOU DO it!!! I don't really want to dish out 15-20,000 thousand for one cycle of IVF! I spent $1500 to try this method and that is something I can live with throwing away at this point! I have too many mouths to feed to do IVF and so that is why I decided that all the signs pointed to this for me to do!!

I thank all the ladies who encouraged me and I will keep you updated! I hope it works for me!! I really would love you all to keep me in your thoughts and think PINK PINK PINK!!! Nuthinbutpink.....especially you!!! I need some of that pink of your please!!!!

[Mochagirl]

Atomic's just watching out for all of us - she didn't mean to insult you or your doctor. Again, not knowing who you are she has to take all your claims with a grain of salt. Remember what happened on IG when all those trolls started appearing? She's just trying to avoid having this site become like that. (Note - I'm not in any way, shape or form calling you a troll - just saying that we do get the occasional sales pitch here from pretend swayers). Atomic is a fantastic researcher, a very knowledgeable swayer, a selfless supporter, and a good friend to many of us. I know lots of women here credit her and her swaying recommendations for getting them their DG.

We all welcome new opinions and debate - the last thing we want is to become a site where people who don't agree with the majority are vilified like what sometimes happens on IG. For that reason, welcome, and I know we all (including atomic) wish you the best. Many readers might be interested in your methods, so I think it's great to share - please continue to do so. Please do update us on the results. I really hope you have a girl in there.

[atomic sagebrush]

Not sure how your thread is being made a mockery by a simple reminder to people that people on the Internet aren't always who they claim to be.

I think it is VERY clear that I am in no way attacking you. In fact I would say it's really a lot more the other way around but you know what, I'm a big girl and it makes absolutely no difference to me as long as the facts are down for everyone to make their own decisions.

Please understand, I have NO WAY to know who you are or where you came from. All I saw was a post from someone who I did not know and who obviously had never been on the site before, and seemed very much like a sales pitch and was even quite similar in tone to some phony posts that I remember from IG. I even pointed out in my first response that you very well may be a legitimate poster and now that I know who you are, I do remember exactly who you are. Of course in addition to not being a medical professional, I'm also not a psychic and cannot read people's minds or intentions thru a computer screen and am limited to going off of the way a post comes off.

That having been said, I'm not going to apologize for putting forth the suggestion because this is the Internet and anyone can say anything they want and I am trying to look out for people's best interests as well as I can and will continue to do so. Believe me, if the shoe were on the other foot and you were about to be potentially victimized by someone, you'd prob. appreciate having someone looking out for you. (and that is exactly what I am trying to do by warning you that IUI at O+12 may not be the greatest idea in all of human history because I honestly, really, truly want for you and everyone to get their DG) There are hundreds of people online who bilk people for thousands of dollars for gender swaying methods, even HT methods, that do not work.

I have said repeatedly that I absolutely hope this works for you and if it does, that's great! More power to ya.

I think you need to let this go for your own sanity because you're getting awfully upset at someone who wants nothing more than for you and everyone to get their DG and for you to be safe and not victimized by anyone regardless of how many medical credentials they have behind their name.

[nuthinbutpink]

Careful Luv, Atomic is my partner here and as a matter of fact, yes, her swaying method DID work for her and although she is too gracious to say anything, I am not. She is pregnant with a DD.

Nobody is criticizing you but you don't need to keep bringing up the "medical doctor" thing because although your "medical doctor" helped you, she is using the same information that atomic and others have access to and they are all just best guesses for what may sway pink/blue. She doesn't know anything different when it comes to timing, clomid and supplements than we do I assure you. We have access and have read through the same research reports and there are many doctors that offer "sperm spinning".

I'm glad you found something that worked for you but I am very protective of atomic.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

WOW....well, thanks ladies for being soooo warm and welcoming! I think that this is nasty! I came on here to ask for support and I am not attacking anyone (ATMOIC) I felt attack buy YOU so dont turn this around on me!! Nothinbutpink I think you need to see my perspective here and allow me to defend myself! Now, I am being told that my method is NOT the ideal and now I want to know why??? You say that you are here for everyone, well, let's here then what is it that makes me NOT the ideal for getting a girl??? Are you saying o+12 does not work??? Are you saying that spinning my sperm doesn't work 100%?? Are you saying my diet and supps did not work??? What exactly are you saying??? I have been on IG too for many many many years and I for one don't like people trying to say that I am here to sales pitch an idea about how to get a girl!!! I really think its great to help others.....I do all the time! But, I never try to act like i know it all or put someone down in the process!! I thought that other women in my shoes would help me out here and now I am being accused of things and now ganged up on because of the relationship you have with one another!! Is that fair???? Wow, women are cady!! This is crazy! For anyone else reading this....I truly wanted advice......I needed input not attacks and not telling me the ideal way to sway I didn't do!!! I really hope the ladies that wished me luck will continue to as I think I am pregnant. I just has some blood today....more a peach color because of my suppositories I think , so I really think those well wishes and good luck I need at this time!!

[amari]

WOW....well, thanks ladies for being soooo warm and welcoming! I think that this is nasty! I came on here to ask for support and I am not attacking anyone (ATMOIC) I felt attack buy YOU so dont turn this around on me!! Nothinbutpink I think you need to see my perspective here and allow me to defend myself! Now, I am being told that my method is NOT the ideal and now I want to know why??? You say that you are here for everyone, well, let's here then what is it that makes me NOT the ideal for getting a girl??? Are you saying o+12 does not work??? Are you saying that spinning my sperm doesn't work 100%?? Are you saying my diet and supps did not work??? What exactly are you saying??? I have been on IG too for many many many years and I for one don't like people trying to say that I am here to sales pitch an idea about how to get a girl!!! I really think its great to help others.....I do all the time! But, I never try to act like i know it all or put someone down in the process!! I thought that other women in my shoes would help me out here and now I am being accused of things and now ganged up on because of the relationship you have with one another!! Is that fair???? Wow, women are cady!! This is crazy! For anyone else reading this....I truly wanted advice......I needed input not attacks and not telling me the ideal way to sway I didn't do!!! I really hope the ladies that wished me luck will continue to as I think I am pregnant. I just has some blood today....more a peach color because of my suppositories I think , so I really think those well wishes and good luck I need at this time!!

Go back and reread, I think you missed something, nobody is attacking you. Kumbaya.

[nuthinbutpink]

I did nothing but wish you well. You tried to put the fact that atomic has 4 boys in her face and THAT is caddy.

If you read what I wrote I thought it was a great option. You are overreacting.

[Princess of Pink]

I think it's pretty obvious that you have spent years on IG...drama, drama, drama....we all came here to get away from that!! Along with the condescending attitude from all IGers that they know everything!!

Atomic and NBP do massive amounts of research and work for us ladies and we have had SO many successful sways here in the short time this site has been running. They may not be doctors but they sure know their stuff....working in the medical field myself I also know a huge amount of doctors who don't know what they are talking about!

[Twins6boysinall]

I wanted to say thank you for the post. I didn't know that anything other than Ericsson existed besides pgd which I just can't afford to do. I looked up the clinic and requested information. Even if I decide not to try it at least I can say I knew about it. So I really appreciate taking the time to answer my questions about. And I hope you are able to get the daughter you are hoping for. Please let me know how your cycle goes.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thank you Twins6boysinall! I appreciate it and those private messages from ladies I received!! Yes, this is an option but obviously not for everyone....so instead of being insulted I will keep my "Sales pitching" mouth closed!! Not what I intended at all and am shocked at the responses to this!!! I am only here for support and really didn't expect others to tear down what I did or didn't do!! Yes, will keep you updated...I know a lot are rooting for me......But I had a lot rooting for me with baby boy 5, baby boy 4........gosh, I hope it worked!!! Here's 2 Healthy babies and hoping my long awaited daughter is finally brought to me!!!

[rainbowflower]

the problem with internet forums is that it's easy to read more extreme emotion/harshness in text that is not intended, or to read and get the wrong idea of what was originally intended. Not only that, but it's an emotive issue so I think it's easy to be more sensitive when otherwise something would have been ignored.

honestly, I think we're all on the same side here - we all want (ourselves) and other members to get the best chance possible at getting their desired gender. It's not worth bickering over as that just damages the integrity of what we're saying.

what's right for some won't be right for others - and things that one fertile lady can do and still conceive with might be too extreme for others and prevent them getting pregnant at all. I think that's the message that some of the admins are trying to get across.



5GB - I'm sorry you haven't felt as welcome here as you should when you joined and posted with such enthusiasm.
I do think some admins are right to be cautious as some on here are quite vulnerable (their duty to protect them a bit) and when told something that sounds "too good to be true" they might get very hurt if it turns out to be just a troll (sadly, the internet has made us too suspicious sometimes too).

You're more than welcome to stay and keep posting, and I hope you do and consider it a fresh start. Any new information that we can get will help everyone else on here by giving them another option that WILL be right for some! (TBH, I wish they did that in this country too as it's something I'd consider in the future if this sway hasn't worked).

[ashkash]

Just wanted to wish you all the best. I hope you get your DD. I did IUI with sperm sorting also. Mine was done at The Fertility Institute of New Orleans. They time the IUI for 30-36 hours after trigger shot, so a little different timing than yours. I know a lot of clinics are starting to do the IUI at the 40-44 hour mark, though, so there must be good reason for it.

It took us 4 cycles, but we're finally pg (with twins) through this procedure. Hoping at least one is a girl!

Good luck & please keep us posted.

[pebmcpd7]

Good luck to you hope it works, can't do that here in UK, so I'll have to stick to diet and supps!!!

[auroara78]

Good luck on getting one and maybe two baby girls!!

When are you going to test to find out?

[myGirl]

Just wanted to say I am rooting for you... hope you have a girl or two cooking in there.
:luck: good luck and keep us posted!


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[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thanks ladies.....sorry I have been away for Spring Break! Thanks for the support.....I hope I do have a girl in there too!!! Good luck ashkash.......how many follicles did you have at time of IUI???? I am scared for twins......but there is a chance!! My doctor did do it late after the trigger.....I was scared that it was too late because I had a trigger at 5:15PM Sat then IUI Monday 11:15 am.....so like 42 hrs later. But I saw the follicles.....one big that hadn't dropped yet so that likely matured later than the rest and 2 that had dropped....one was flat and the other was almost flat or "caved". Twins....that scares me!! The last 3 days, I have been feeling yucky!!! I am only 9dpo but I swear at 5dpo I wiped blood and now since then have had a NON stop headache and my stomach feels empty and I just have that pregnancy feel. I dont know....maybe its in my head!!! I am really nervous now!! I wont test yet>>>>>

[rainbowflower]

you're really strong with the not testing, I started at 7dpo lol

[ashkash]

You should test! I got my first BFP at 9 dpo. Can't wait to see if it worked for you! Fingers crossed.

[ELP]

I picked up my bfp at 8dpo and that was a singleton, I'd test!!

[hopingforsaskia]

I've been sucked in, hook line and sinker.. I want you to test too!! I got a singleton BFP at 8dpo!!! :bigsmile:

[myGirl]

Any news 5 Gorgeousboys?


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[5 Gorgeousboyz]

No BFP for me! I am in disbelief!! I have had 5 babies....natural with no iui or drugs!!! This sucks!! I had 6 follicles....3 at time of IUI, 2 collapsing....everything looked so good. I have one more shot at this and thats it!! I know the spinning of the sperm isn't harsh....my dh had 103 million after wash for a girl!! So it must of been me.....my eggs probably werent good. I am so sad!! I need a different approach. Maybe no drugs this time....natural or maybe up the drugs.....I don't know. Any suggestions??? I just stopped my progesterone.....so hopefully my period will come soon!!!! I really didn't want to do this again!!! Thought this would have worked!! I cannot believe this.....WOW.!! Total shock!!!! I was more worried about twins!! I had symptoms that must of been from PROGESTERONE!!! This is nuts!! My hubby even had 103 million after wash for a girl!!! Its totally me.......wow....maybe my body couldn't take the drugs????? This is a sad day as some of you ladies already know!! I need to just move on.......one last try!! Anyone tried natural IUI, then trigger after insemination?????? Thanks ladies for all the support!! I need support more than ever.......

[myGirl]

I'm so sorry you didn't get a BFP. I don't know what else you could change, I really know nothing about drugs or IUIs. I definitely would not give up though. Even the most fertile people in the world don't always get a BFP the first month. Hugs :HH:

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thank you.....I know, its just so sad....all the hard work!! I have never had to go through this!! I couldn't imagine the ladies that have this trouble and have no babies. My heart goes out to them sooooooooo much!! This is tough! I only am doing all this for a girl.....which is not even a guarenteed!!! I was thinking that I might do the wash, then IUI and trigger shot after. I hear there is better results....although my dr. said doing IUI on the later end of O is better for a girl. I was thinking that a few days earlier to better chance in getting pregnant and then go by the theory of girls are slower, boys are faster...... I don't know!! Anyone want to give me a suggestion????

[hopingforsaskia]

Oh wow! So sorry 5GB! Maybe natural is the way?? As I don't know your history, have you done at home swaying before and it hasn't "worked"? I'm assuming so... is there a method or combination you haven't tried? Either way, if the next IUI doesn't work (which it probably would!) you could always return to the natural methods AS recommends.. :bigsmile:

[hopingforsaskia]

Oh and I would recommend earlier. If you're doing a wash, timing shouldn't effect it towards blue anyway surely?

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thank you!! Yes, going to ask the dr about earlier and maybe different drugs.....I just hate taking suppositories!!! Maybe earlier then trigger! I hope someone chimes in.......help!! Going to continue my supps.....everything I have been doing!! Putting hubby back on cranberry...he's gonna be thrilled!!!!

[nuthinbutpink]

IUI's have a low chance at working. Did you ask the stats? Ashkash tried 4 times before she got her BFP recently. Most MS/IUIs took multiple tries. It's probably a combination of things but your fertility may not have anything to do with it.

Clomid and IUI success rates are about 10% per month for women under 35 if the tubes are open by a hysterosalpingogram (HSG) and semen analysis is normal.

This statistic holds true for about 3 cycles - after that it is significantly lower

With injectables, in women under 35 with open tubes, no endometriosis, and a male with normal semen, the success rate with injectables and IUI is about 15% per month (up to 3 tries).

Those stats are from Advanced Fertility.

So, it is just hard to get pregnant with an IUI and you should count on 3 cycles to find success. I would have hoped they discussed this with you so you had some idea going in what you are facing. Is it still a little early? How many dpo are you?

That is why atomic was upset with the timing part. IUI is hard enough, then you try and mess with the timing where your eggs that did ovulate may have already expired and they just made it that much harder. I get trying to do the best sway but the study with the O+12 is based upon 33 women. That's not really a solid statistic.

You can find success with your next attempt if this one is a bust. I would not want more follicles than 2 because you could end up with a dangerous higher order pregnancy(Jon & Kate style) and that would be a disaster.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Well spoke to my doctor......and next cycle no drugs at all and no trigger!! The timing was perfect and my eggs were not expired nuthinbutpink. My dr did an ultrasound at time of IUI and if I had ovulated already then she would have known. I just talked to her about everything. Using clomid and trigger may have been the culprit. My husbands semen analysis was great....I mean at IUI after wash he had 103 MILLION. I had an HSG done a month before my IUI and my tubes are wide open!!! Yes, the clinic went over stats but I am not infertile and even the doctor was shocked and actually said to me she was a little concerned I was going to have twins!!! So this is a shock!! And as far as Atomic....she is not my doctor nor does she know my history!! If she wants to give me advice on diet and her research in that area then that's fine, but as far as an iui timing and what went on in my particular case, she has really no knowledge in that area. I have always gotten pregnant first month with all my kids!! So, this is crazy to me!! I knew there was a chance but really didn't think it would happen. Anyhow, going to really do diet hard next couple weeks!! Any suggestions ladies!! What to eat I mean???? Give me a menu...the hardest sway possible. I just worry that I am only 105lbs and I don't want to drop too much weight which could prevent me from getting pregnant. Is there anything I can eat that is not so hard core???? I do exercise a lot.....suggestions on that??? I do kickboxing, zumba, step, spin all week long. Can you recommend what I should do as far as that????

[nuthinbutpink]

If you have read on the HT forums, IUI is just not that easy to get pregnant with. We are all fertile. Everyone that did a MS/IUI was fertile. Ashkash is fertile. IVF doesn't work the first time either and we are all fertile.

The IUI/IVF world is just different. It's not natural and it is harder to get pregnant that way. You had said previously that you had already ovulated and there is no way to know when and how long it had been since. You never said the sizes of the follicles that you had so it is hard to know how many may have been mature.

If you choose to go natural, you will have to catch the one egg and timing will be critical. Perhaps an IUI 24 hours after surge and 36 hours after surge? A HT user just did this on the HT forum and she is in the 2WW.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Nuthinbutpink.....IUI/MS verses IUI with a wash are two different things. Doing MS in general is very, very harsh on the sperm.....that is why the pregnancy rate is so low...not the IUI part. IUI is still way more natural than any fertility out there. Comparing it to IVF, well, that's like comparing Apples and oranges. IVF is a very unnatural process. You are taking the eggs out, fertilizing them and then putting them back in hopes that they stick in there. Very different than an IUI. With IUI the sperm still meets the egg in the uterus and goes into the fallopian tubes and so on. Very different. Spinning for a girl....not harsh at all. Infertile woman get sperm washing before IUI all the time and get pregnant. I thought I had a GREAT chance at getting pregnant being that I have had 5 LIVE births, no complications or Miscarriages in my life. The doctor even thought it was going to work. But, it does happen.....I get it. Now its time to move on. I guess my doctor feels that I do ok on my own getting pregnant.....I mean I just had a baby 17 months ago, my body should know the mode!!! My doctor is going to do the same timing.......she said timing was not a factor at all. I was ovulating and I caught the surge. Must of been egg quality. Or she did tell me to test in a few days if I have not had my period yet.....late implantation. She did mention that sometimes IUI's can implant late. But, I am not holding out for that!! I will just do it again. I am so scared to do the drugs again because I responded so well. If we upped them then my chances of canceling are higher as well as multiples. I just don't know what to do anymore. Do I do the same thing....50mg clomid and trigger shot or do natural as the doctor suggested with me doing OPKs and then when I get a positive go in the next day or so and just do the wash???? I am so confused since this is the last time I can do this!!!!!

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

That's what is so so funny hopingforsaskia.....I did sway hard last time...with EGS and put my dh's sperm in a Diva cup and got pregnant. Here my doctor did an IUI and went to the opening which took longer to inseminate and I didn't get pregnant!! Wow....so crazy!! Why does getting a daughter have to be this hard. I know I am blessed with five health boys.....is it too much for me to want a daughter too. This wasn't even 100% either....I was gambling a bit. I have never had a problem getting pregnant ever. No miscarriages or anything.

[nuthinbutpink]

Yes, I am familiar with how unnatural IVF is.

I hope you get your DD.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Yes, I know you are aware of that!! I see nothing wrong with it....I just really can't put my family out that much you know! Now my husband said today...."can you imagine if we spent 20,000 and not get pregnant". It would stink yes, but I would have taken the gamble with that too!!

Thank You.....I hope so too....at this rate I just have to believe it will happen and believe that next time I am going to get pregnant and its' going to be a girl!!!!

[rainbowflower]

sorry you got a BFN, hope you get lucky next time

I think in your position I'd stick with the sperm sorting and try and get the swimmers in there before OV happens so that the sperm will be in the right place at the right time, ready to catch the egg when it pops out - that way the odds of pink AND pregnancy would be in your favour too

hope next cycle is a sticky one for you!

[atomic sagebrush]

I BEG you in the name of all that is good and holy, DO NOT try and sway while going HT. It will not gain you anything. With IUI you bypass the entire reproductive tract and deposit sperm right at the egg. You are skipping everything that might sway. There are a couple theories out there that claim the egg gets "primed" to receive X or Y sperm but a) there's no good data proving that and b) in order for the egg to be "primed" you'd have to do diet for a full 90 days because that's the amount of time an egg goes from a tiny seed to a fully developed and ready to fertilize egg. To try and do diet NOW only will reduce your fertility and possibly prevent you from ovulating, and it will also deplete your body of needed nutrients that can help sustain a healthy pregnancy. Please don't try to do diet.

The entire POINT of sperm spinning + IUI is that you don't have to sway. The sperm spinning has done the swaying FOR you. Getting pg with IUI under ideal circumstances is hard enough

I am a little confused because in your earlier statements you said that your doctor inseminated you at O+12. Now you're saying that your eggs had not been ovulated which is GOOD timing for IUI. I'm not sure where the truth lies, but my advice would be for you to call some other doctors not affiliated with your clinic, or post a question to Dr. Sher or Dr. Potter or Dr. Saleh (I believe they all accept questions on their sites and Dr. P answers q's here on Gender Dreaming) and ask THEM what the ideal timing for IUI is and why. My advice on when to time IUI is not something I'm making up, it's just the standard timing for IUI. If you don't want to call/ask them, then do a Google search and you can read for yourself.

To answer your earlier question, yes, I AM saying that O+12 doesn't sway. Like I said before, this is not an IG clone site and some of the advice I give is different but we are getting equally good if not better results. But it doesn't matter whether or not you or I or anyone thinks O+12 sways. The thing is, when you do IUI, you bypass your entire reproductive tract anyway. The reason why O+12 is supposed to sway has NOTHING to do with the egg itself, it has to do with your CM drying up after ovulation. When you do IUI you are bypassing your cervix and cervical mucus all together. It is POINTLESS because the sperm are not even going to be in your cervix, they'll be deposited right into your uterus.

IUI at O+12 does not gain you anything other than lower chance of pregnancy. Firstly because many women's eggs do not live much past 12 hours after ovulation (and the older we get, the more true this is.) and they're at the outer limit of their quality even if alive. Secondly because you are bypassing the part of O+12 that even sways to begin with. And thirdly because after sperm are spun, they're often kind of tired and may not have the speed it takes to find/fertilize the egg very quickly, which they have to be able to do at O+12 because the egg. If you're now saying that you are NOT doing IUI at O+12 then this entire argument is moot and please disregard.

[atomic sagebrush]

Nuthinbutpink.....IUI/MS verses IUI with a wash are two different things. Doing MS in general is very, very harsh on the sperm.....that is why the pregnancy rate is so low...not the IUI part. IUI is still way more natural than any fertility out there. Comparing it to IVF, well, that's like comparing Apples and oranges. IVF is a very unnatural process. You are taking the eggs out, fertilizing them and then putting them back in hopes that they stick in there. Very different than an IUI. With IUI the sperm still meets the egg in the uterus and goes into the fallopian tubes and so on. Very different. Spinning for a girl....not harsh at all. Infertile woman get sperm washing before IUI all the time and get pregnant. I thought I had a GREAT chance at getting pregnant being that I have had 5 LIVE births, no complications or Miscarriages in my life. The doctor even thought it was going to work. But, it does happen.....I get it. Now its time to move on. I guess my doctor feels that I do ok on my own getting pregnant.....I mean I just had a baby 17 months ago, my body should know the mode!!! My doctor is going to do the same timing.......she said timing was not a factor at all. I was ovulating and I caught the surge. Must of been egg quality. Or she did tell me to test in a few days if I have not had my period yet.....late implantation. She did mention that sometimes IUI's can implant late. But, I am not holding out for that!! I will just do it again. I am so scared to do the drugs again because I responded so well. If we upped them then my chances of canceling are higher as well as multiples. I just don't know what to do anymore. Do I do the same thing....50mg clomid and trigger shot or do natural as the doctor suggested with me doing OPKs and then when I get a positive go in the next day or so and just do the wash???? I am so confused since this is the last time I can do this!!!!!

The odds of pg even with straight IUI are not as good as natural conception either. The more follicles you have, the better your odds, so I am a bit concerned about the "let's drop the drugs" plan because that seems like a step in the wrong direction. Even 20 year olds only have 20-30% odds of getting pg naturally and their egg quality is fine. I also think the trigger shot is a good idea to make sure that the IUI is timed correctly.

Did they check FSH and AMH before beginning this process?? Clomid may not be the best drug for you and there are other options that may be better for egg quality (altho I doubt that's what went wrong.)

I believe you do need SOMETHING to ensure you have more than one follicle or you are wasting $$. You WANT 3-4 follicles for IUI. That's what they're going for.

Sperm washing is NOT the same thing at all as sperm spinning. Very different things with very different effects on the swimmers.

And to answer a question from an earlier post, no, sperm spinning is NOT 100%.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Atomic.....I thank you for your input....I really do BUT I wish you would quit acting like you know everything please. You keep basically calling me a liar about MY CYCYLE and what I have said or did!!! I did do my IUI at the END OF OVULATION!!! I was OVULATING because my doctor did an ultrasound at the time of IUI and said the timing was exactly what we wanted....the END OF O. Last 12 hours of O!!!!! She knows that from measurements and the follicles that had collapsed and everything else that she looked at!!!! I had 3 follicles at the time of IUI 1 still pretty big but starting to collapse and 2 that collapsed and were waiting. With the spinning the sperm only live 24hrs so you cannot do it days before....they will be DEAD!!! So instead of doing the IUI at the beginning of O, we did it at the end but I was still Oing!!!! That is why this is a shock!! Yes, I know sperm spinning is different than a wash and my doctor has been doing this a long time and said there is not any concern for the sperm....microsort on the other hand is very very very harsh on the sperm. Maybe you are not familiar with the method I did that's why....I don't know. This is not the Erickson method and even that is not harsh on sperm. My dh's sperm count was 103 MILLION AFTER THE spinning!!!! So I think they came out fine. As far as the follicles I had....I did have 5-6 (the 6th one was really little)4 days before IUI, which my doctor said that we want between 3-5. The day of IUI I had 3 follicles which my doctor said was perfect for me!! In fact my doctor is shocked and was worried I was going to have twins. I understand the whole diet thing....which I have been on for a while and it does help even though the IUI gets "almost to the opening to where the egg is". But, I have been doing all my swaying for a long time already. I was just adding that maybe I could do something that I am not doing already. Actually the embryologist was the one who said that there is a link with calcium/mag supps with XX sperm. We talked in great lengths about it as well as baby aspirin that I have been on for a year now. There is a correlation and I have even read up on it as well. My problem is the drugs.....I think my eggs weren't good because of it. My doctor says a more natural approach may be better being as I have never had a problem getting pregnant and have never had a miscarriage. My lining was great....my fsh levels and estradiol was great......HSG test showed tubes are clear (Just really long tubes I have). So, maybe the stimulating messed with me. Instead of throwing this at me thinking you know it all....maybe you could help me. Maybe you could say "hey, why dont you do this to help". "ask your doctor this and that". "Consider this maybe". But when you come at me like you know it all and make comments like "I beg you in the name of all that is good and holy". I mean really.....that is not helpful at all. I really need opinions and ladies who either genuinely want to help or just don't know what to say except good luck. This is hard enough for me right now. I am in such conflict with this and this is my last chance. I have had so many chances to try for a girl. My dh has been so amazing even though we have fought about this all over the years and I have cried my eyes out because of all this!! I had to beg him for all of this IUI stuff. I have to say he has always done what I have asked....even some crazy shit with microscopes and diva cups and all the crap I did last time. Supplements and what he needs to drink, abstain from sex.....it's crazy he is doing one more shot for me!!! I need some sound advice....not Ms. Know it all attacking me!!!! I am at my end......if you are trying to help.....it's not helping me! You are distracting me!! I really appreciate any advice from you, I do, but constructive advice is what I need.

Oh and I did not ask a question about sperm spinning being 100%....I know what % I was given for a GIRL by my doctor, so I never ever thought nor asked if it was 100%!!!

[nuthinbutpink]

She IS trying to help. She was being constructive. You just do not understand the IUI world. Count doesn't matter as much as motility and mobility do. Spinning reduces that. Your odds will be lower with one follicle. You need to know that. That is what she is trying to tell you. It's obvious you are pissed at her and at this point I don't think we can help.

I've been living HT for 4 years. I know a little about it at this point and I too was trying to help. I don't think you want to hear what we have to say at this point.

Your "sway" comes down to how effective their spinning is. So, try natural with the one follicle and hopefully they will catch the egg this time.

[Irishmom]

I'm sorry to hear you did'nt get a BFP 5gorgeousboyz.I hope your next attempt is successful and you get your dd.
I have to be honest your being very defensive against anything atomic or anyone else says that you dont want to hear. Maybe you should re read all the helpful advice both atomic and nutinbutpink HAVE given you again. You seem to be reading what simply is not there? I mean that in the nicest way possible.xx

[nuthinbutpink]

And nearly ALL of the HT women can empathize with you about being very fertile and having this not work. I was 33 with 3 kids conceived first month and then told HT won't work for me because I had bad ovaries. I had a 6 month old! No matter how many times you read it, we assume that won't be me and it will work for me the first time. It usually doesn't. But many find success when they try again and you can too.

[pebmcpd7]

What is the point of asking advice if you are going to be nasty when you don't hear what YOU want to hear?!?!

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

You know it's not me reading "what I want to read" and thinking I am being attacked. I have had ladies message me stating they have had problems like I am having. Atomic I am not pissed at Nuthinbutpink......She just think she knows it all!! First off, I know about the IUI world, thank you and secondly My dh's motility was great after the wash!!!! My doctor gave me all the numbers and is in shock as well. I don't think the help is constructive at all and frankly, I am going to listen to the ladies who have nicely sent me a message. I am hear for help........I guess you just like hearing yourself and thinking you know it all and that's fine. I am a strong woman too and I know my info with MY BODY and cycle and what my doctor has told me and embryologists and things I have researched. You are condescending as well.....You ladies really know how to kick someone while they are down!!! I can say you have helped me with that. Thank you for that!!! I don't know how you ladies think that you are helping......read the other ladies on here with their helpful comments and insight. Thank you to the ladies on here that have given me ideas and messaged me. I obviously am not going to get any help here on this board!!! It's a shame........

[nuthinbutpink]

This is absurd. You've lost me. I'm out. If you just wanted sympathy or good luck messages you shouldn't have asked for advice.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

I am NOT being nasty.....I am NOT a nasty person. It's funny that I am not the only one on this board this has happened to. I want advice.....I do!!! I am begging for it...READ MY POSTS !!!!!!! Go read some of the posts.....I showed my dh just now and he agrees......I am not nasty....at all!! I think he said "wow these woman think they know it all". That's great and I want the help but not the way its been delivered. I am so distracted by this, it's not even funny NOR worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yes, NUTHINGBUTPINK, I get the HT. I didn't take my egg out have it fertilized......I did turkey bastor method here. I know HT doesn't happen for fertile women......I am not even going there....I wanted some advice on drugs, diet and what I should do now. I am not in denial...I am moving on and wanted some help. But, maybe your right....maybe you can't help!!!


Really you think I want sympathy.....You are talking to someone with 5 boys!!!!! I wanted help lady!!!!!! I think you even messaged me that Atomic wouldn't make anymore comments........well, she did and people can think that I am defensive but I am telling you I am not at all.

[Irishmom]

Point proven!!... im bowing out. Atomic IMO gives up alot of her precious time for others and i for one am very grateful to her for it.She goes to great lengths to back up all her posts,if that is knowing it all so be it,im grateful for it.I dont believe from reading this thread that anyone is/was kicking you while you are down and im sorry if you feel that way.I wish you well.

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Sorry but I have been kicked down now....when it happens to YOU then you can make that assessment!! That is how I feel. I do not doubt she tries to help others with swaying and gives her opinion but she did not do that with me IMO!!! You see it how you see it but it's not you it's happening to! I didn't see her helping that way at all. You can all stick together with this....I get it....you have a "internet history" with one another!! I can take it....I'm a CALIFORNIA GIRL.......I can take it, I just thought with a site like this I was going to get way more support, especially from ladies that DESIRE a GIRL just like me!!!! I thought that people would want to help and would make suggestions.....and I have had some, so I will take that and consider it all.

[Yuzu]

Atomic gives up an incredible amount of time to help us all. I've been wanting a girl since my first son was born 24 years ago. This is the first site I've ever been to that is so completely supportive.

She is trying to help you. Try to open your mind and not be defensive. She has only tried to help all of us get our gender desire.

[ILindGurl]

I will be wearing my "TEAM ATOMIC" t-shirt proudly in the next monthly Swaying Games! May the odds be ever in your favor!! :)

[pebmcpd7]

:luck:5 Gorgeousboyz I really do hope all works out for you and you get your little girl. Hope next month is your month!! Just tweak things around abit maybe try before ovulation rather than 0+12.
Hope you let us know how you get on..
:DD::DD::DD::DD::DD::DD::DD::DD::DD::DD::DD::DD::D D::DD:

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

Thank you Pebmco6.......I hope so too!!! I wish I could do it before O, but my doctor told me that after spinning the sperm they only live for about 24 hours. I initially asked if I could do the IUI when I get a positive surge, then trigger after since I heard some other women doing that. But, my doctor said that the sperm from spinning wouldn't survive by time of O. I have my doctors private email, which I just emailed her with some MORE questions so I am just going to see what is said. I think the natural cycle may be better however, I don't know if the clomid messed me up in any way. The doctor said my lining was great so I would think that is what would have been a problem but I was on progesterone, so I think it's all ok. I just wish my period would get here already!!!!!!

[rainbowflower]

how many dpo are you now? what sensitivity test did you use?

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

I am 15dpo today. I took at test yesterday and BFN. My period is probably delayed because of progesterone, so I am just waiting. I guess some women get their periods on progesterone anyways and some it delays. My doctor said I should get it in 3-4 days after stopping it. If I don't I need to re-test because sometimes late implantation can happen with IUI's. I am not holding out for that though. I did tell my doctor around 12 dpo/iui I had cramps all day...a lot and thought I was going to get my period. The next day and up until now, I don't have them. I am bloated though, so af must be coming!!! I have no cramps though. Had cramps after iui for a few days and then again started at 11 days and really had cramps at 12 days and now nothing really. Weird! Oh and at 5 dpo I had a little peach discharge when I wiped (thought it was implantation bleeding but I guess not). So bizarre......oh well, up and onward!!!

[5 Gorgeousboyz]

You do that!

[rainbowflower]

well.. it's not over until the witch shows. PMA!

[Lassie1982]

I will be wearing my "TEAM ATOMIC" t-shirt proudly in the next monthly Swaying Games! May the odds be ever in your favor!! :)

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT and buying 7 of these! One for each day of the week!

[Lassie1982]

Sorry but I have been kicked down now....when it happens to YOU then you can make that assessment!! That is how I feel. I do not doubt she tries to help others with swaying and gives her opinion but she did not do that with me IMO!!! You see it how you see it but it's not you it's happening to! I didn't see her helping that way at all. You can all stick together with this....I get it....you have a "internet history" with one another!! I can take it....I'm a CALIFORNIA GIRL.......I can take it, I just thought with a site like this I was going to get way more support, especially from ladies that DESIRE a GIRL just like me!!!! I thought that people would want to help and would make suggestions.....and I have had some, so I will take that and consider it all.

Im going to try and get this point across in as civil and diplomatic way as possible.

Reading the posts objectively, it is very apparent that what is happening here is that you take offence, and see as personal criticism, anything that is said to you that disagree's with your opinion, or your methods. At no stage has atomic done anything other then 'show' you a different perspective.

It quiet obvious that anything other then 100% agreance is perceived by you in a derogatory way, as a personal attack.

Im not saying any of this to be rude, or nasty, or to put you down - or any of the other phrases that you have accused forum members of. Im saying it merely in the hope that you can perhaps look at if from a separate standpoint, not your own emotionally vested standpoint. When we are so emotionally tied to something and we pin all our hopes to it then its very easy to fall into the trap of being far too subjective - misinterpreting things - and therefore alienating all those who want to welcome you with open arms, and have nothing but the best and purest intentions for you.
It would be a shame if that were to happen because this forum is without a doubt the most informative, friendly and supportive forum i have ever had the privilege of being on. In fact the only 'nastiness' that I have seen at this forum at all in my time here (albiet a limited time) are the comments that you have made towards Atomic....

Perspective, please please gain some, and this forum can and will help you achieve your GD - and if not, then it will help support you past it.

People can be responsible for what they say, but not how it is interpreted - that responsibility is down to the listener to accept and see for what it is, or to twist and misinterpret it.

Best of luck :luck:

[atomic sagebrush]

WOW....well, thanks ladies for being soooo warm and welcoming! I think that this is nasty! I came on here to ask for support and I am not attacking anyone (ATMOIC) I felt attack buy YOU so dont turn this around on me!! Nothinbutpink I think you need to see my perspective here and allow me to defend myself! Now, I am being told that my method is NOT the ideal and now I want to know why??? You say that you are here for everyone, well, let's here then what is it that makes me NOT the ideal for getting a girl??? Are you saying o+12 does not work??? Are you saying that spinning my sperm doesn't work 100%?? Are you saying my diet and supps did not work??? What exactly are you saying??? I have been on IG too for many many many years and I for one don't like people trying to say that I am here to sales pitch an idea about how to get a girl!!! I really think its great to help others.....I do all the time! But, I never try to act like i know it all or put someone down in the process!! I thought that other women in my shoes would help me out here and now I am being accused of things and now ganged up on because of the relationship you have with one another!! Is that fair???? Wow, women are cady!! This is crazy! For anyone else reading this....I truly wanted advice......I needed input not attacks and not telling me the ideal way to sway I didn't do!!! I really hope the ladies that wished me luck will continue to as I think I am pregnant. I just has some blood today....more a peach color because of my suppositories I think , so I really think those well wishes and good luck I need at this time!!

You ask right in this post if I am saying that sperm spinning doesn't work 100%. And my answer is, no, it doesn't.

I am bowing out of this thread permanently for the health of my baby because I really do not need this. I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU and I do not profit or benefit off of your success or failure in any way. I'm sorry I spent time away from my children that need me and the others on this site who need help, to get slammed for doing nothing other than attempting for a second time to assist you. My advice is, if you don't want people to answer questions honestly and to the best of their ability, then don't ask them. There are other sites out there where people will tell you what you want to hear. Good luck to you.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am NOT being nasty.....I am NOT a nasty person. It's funny that I am not the only one on this board this has happened to. I want advice.....I do!!! I am begging for it...READ MY POSTS !!!!!!! Go read some of the posts.....I showed my dh just now and he agrees......I am not nasty....at all!! I think he said "wow these woman think they know it all". That's great and I want the help but not the way its been delivered. I am so distracted by this, it's not even funny NOR worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yes, NUTHINGBUTPINK, I get the HT. I didn't take my egg out have it fertilized......I did turkey bastor method here. I know HT doesn't happen for fertile women......I am not even going there....I wanted some advice on drugs, diet and what I should do now. I am not in denial...I am moving on and wanted some help. But, maybe your right....maybe you can't help!!!


Really you think I want sympathy.....You are talking to someone with 5 boys!!!!! I wanted help lady!!!!!! I think you even messaged me that Atomic wouldn't make anymore comments........well, she did and people can think that I am defensive but I am telling you I am not at all.

???The only reason I spent time out of my day to reply again, was because you seemed to need help and it seemed petty and catty to me for not to respond when you were asking questions that were in my area of expertise. I never said I wouldn't respond to your post. Believe me, I wish I wouldn't have LOL.

The reason why I begged you to pay attention in the name of a higher power was because I wanted you to truly understand the importance of why you should not sway while going HT. That's an expression I just happen to use in my day to day speech, I've written it many times in many places. You don't gain yourself a thing by doing so and you hurt your odds. I WANT YOU TO SUCCEED and get your desired gender.

[rainbowflower]

sorry ladies, I'm closing this thread now as bickering isn't the atmosphere we want on here