Short article on fish oil and strength training

[ELP]

Found the article below which says how fish oil is helping women with muscle building:agree: It doesn't say which dose they recommend though, but good news none the less!!

Healthnotes | at Puritan's Pride (http://www.puritan.com/pages/healthnotesnew.asp?Resource=%2fassets%2ffeature%2f women-get-more-from-your-workout-with-fish-oil_14862_4%2f~default&cm_re=body-_-IntheNews-_-FishOils)

[atomic sagebrush]

That is awesome info! Thank you so much for sharing! :heart:

[ELP]

That is awesome info! Thank you so much for sharing! :heart:

My pleasure:) So this would make it almost an essential for a blue sway wouldn't it! Muscle and CM beneficial:agree: I'm waiting on mine to be delivered lol, just incase:bigsmile:

[atomic sagebrush]

I agree totally and I think fish oil is great for blue!

Also good info for pink swayers because I know on IG they are told to eat fish.

[business.woman]

Does Salmon oil work the same?? I Accedentaly ordered salmon oil , now Im scared it might ruin my HE diet


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[cosmosis]

Salmon is fish, so it is still fish oil. The issues arises in the source of the salmon used to make your salmon oil. Sea farmed salmon usually contain much more omega-6 and saturated fats than wild salmon. In addition, depending on the type of salmon, the EPA/DHA content is relatively low, typically ranging from 8 to 16% of the oil.

That means, you would need twice as much salmon oil to get the same EPA/DHA dose found in regular fish oil. One of the reasons we are encouraged to take fish oil for the HE diet is to balance your omega 6 oils that you'd consume when you eat nuts, EPO and processed foods (if you eat those). So again, ultimately it boils down to the source of fish. If it's wild caught and a good quality oil, you should be okay as far as balancing of Omegas.

HTH!

[business.woman]

Salmon is fish, so it is still fish oil. The issues arises in the source of the salmon used to make your salmon oil. Sea farmed salmon usually contain much more omega-6 and saturated fats than wild salmon. In addition, depending on the type of salmon, the EPA/DHA content is relatively low, typically ranging from 8 to 16% of the oil.

That means, you would need twice as much salmon oil to get the same EPA/DHA dose found in regular fish oil. One of the reasons we are encouraged to take fish oil for the HE diet is to balance your omega 6 oils that you'd consume when you eat nuts, EPO and processed foods (if you eat those). So again, ultimately it boils down to the source of fish. If it's wild caught and a good quality oil, you should be okay as far as balancing of Omegas.

HTH!

So I should just double the dose?

Here what I ordered http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161025/3d0a1d4525397064116200eaeda7a8f9.png


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[cosmosis]

Carlson is a good brand :)

So Carlson's fish oil (one serving/ 1 Teaspoon) has:

Omega-3 Fatty Acids* 1,600 mg †
EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid)* 800 mg †
DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid)*500 mg †

and the salmon capsules have (one serving/two capsules):

Total Omega-3 Fatty Acids‡ 500 mg
EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid)‡ 220 mg
DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid)‡ 180 mg

So you should take 3 times the dosage for it to even out :) Carlson's salmon oil still has fish oil in it. According to the back label, it contains 50% salmon oil and the rest is their regular fish oil.

HTH! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Does Salmon oil work the same?? I Accedentaly ordered salmon oil , now Im scared it might ruin my HE diet


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Salmon oil is fine, I would be hesitant for you guys to use more than 1000 mg for a couple reasons, firstly because high dose fish oil may lower cholesterol and that in turn may lower testosterone levels and reduce estrogen, and also because it can really contribute to bleeding and bruising issues. To compensate for the difference in fat profiles I'd have you leave out the EPO (I'm doing this more and more anyway, with the increasing amount of data indictating Omega 6 fats seem to sway pink in animals) and yes yes limit processed foods - I like you guys to keep these limited on HE Diet anyway to keep weight gain under control. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

My preference is to stick with 1000 mg tops and then just cut back other sources of Omega 6 like EPO, flax, veg oils to compensate! :) Thanks

[cosmosis]

1,000 mg of the actual oil or Omega 3? I ask because most fish oil comes in liquid form, and it is measured by mL. So one teaspoon( which is one serving) of fish oil is 5mL and it contains 1600mg of Omega 3 plus DHA and EPA.

Another option with less Omega 3 would be Cod Liver Oil, which is 1100mg of Omega 3 per serving (1 tsp), EPA & DHA, and it also naturally contains vitamins D and A. This sounds more like what you prefer atomic, not sure though :)

So, what is the purpose of EPO anyway? For EWCM? I'm a bit rusty at this, its been a while. I'd prefer to go without TBH, I take the liquid and it tastes terrible lol.

[atomic sagebrush]

I try to make it easy on people to follow the sway supps and thus I generally recommend the 1000 mg (capsules) because it's widely accessible and relatively standardized. Liquid is great but I have not seen the compliance with it and also many people cannot find it in their regions.

Cod liver oil ONLY if purified (agree Carlsons is a reliable brand :agree:) and if it doesn't have the high Vit. A. I know that Weston Price recommend the Vit. A in the CLO and say it's safe, but it makes me very nervous because we are dealing with people around the world who may not have access to safe CLO and also too many people take too many vitamins to start out with and then adding more Vit. A onto that just makes me very, very nervous.

EPO is supposed to be for EWCM. The thing is that we have had a plethora of animal studies over the past few years seeming to indicate that too much of it may inadvertently sway pink, and so I'm gradually leaving it out more and more - anyone who's had an opposite while taking it, I"m leaving it out for them, and people who are vegetarians/vegans. So many people swear by it that I don't want to just throw out the baby with the bath water, but it's one of those unknown areas with swaying that I'm proceeding tentatively to see if it helps us at all to have the most vulnerable to it, leaving it out. (hopefully that makes sense LOL)

[cosmosis]

Well, there's other ways to help produce more EWCM and if that's the only reason to take EPO, besides making labor easier, then I wouldn't be able to justify it. It's an omega 6 afterall and those are so easy to come by, especially for those who do eat processed foods.

You know, omega-6 fatty acids increase the production of pro-inflammatory eicosanoids. When the body is inflamed in any way, there is extra cortisol being produced and if there's cortisol being produced this means the body is under stress. This is probably why EPO tends to sway pink, it makes sense. Of course, this is a incredibly condensed explanation and there's some seriously fascinating correlations I'm seeing just by hanging out on the forums as well as my experience working with women.

That being said, I'll be leaving the EPO lol. I eat alot of seeds, thats more than enough omega 6 for me.

[business.woman]

My preference is to stick with 1000 mg tops and then just cut back other sources of Omega 6 like EPO, flax, veg oils to compensate! :) Thanks

Yes I will not use EPO , I noticed lots of girls conceiving with it , even in other forums !

Does Veg oil like corn oil and olive oil in cooking effects?



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[business.woman]

Well, there's other ways to help produce more EWCM and if that's the only reason to take EPO, besides making labor easier, then I wouldn't be able to justify it. It's an omega 6 afterall and those are so easy to come by, especially for those who do eat processed foods.

You know, omega-6 fatty acids increase the production of pro-inflammatory eicosanoids. When the body is inflamed in any way, there is extra cortisol being produced and if there's cortisol being produced this means the body is under stress. This is probably why EPO tends to sway pink, it makes sense. Of course, this is a incredibly condensed explanation and there's some seriously fascinating correlations I'm seeing just by hanging out on the forums as well as my experience working with women.

That being said, I'll be leaving the EPO lol. I eat alot of seeds, thats more than enough omega 6 for me.

For the labor , we start taking it from the third trimester?


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[cosmosis]

Yes I will not use EPO , I noticed lots of girls conceiving with it , even in other forums !

Does Veg oil like corn oil and olive oil in cooking effects?



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These are all trans fats as well as omega 6's, I would avoid them regardless. Cook with better oils like avocado, coconut oil or animal fats.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I will not use EPO , I noticed lots of girls conceiving with it , even in other forums !

Does Veg oil like corn oil and olive oil in cooking effects?



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Yes, we believe that it's best to try to limit those things when swaying blue because studies have shown it's best to get more of your fat from animal/saturated sources rather than vegetable.

[atomic sagebrush]

For the labor , we start taking it from the third trimester?


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I have a weird personal experience with EPO which has led me to no longer recommend it orally for inducing labor.

With my 3rd son I was taking it orally trying to induce labor and I ended up having a super fast, super violent labor and I had tons and tons of small red blood clots in my amniotic fluid. The nurses had never seen anything like it and they speculated I may have been starting to have a placental abruption during labor. Fast forward a few years now and I have seen a lot of people have bleeding and bruising while taking it and it is known to be a blood thinner. I am really sensitive to blood thinners (can't even take aspirin at all) and I think it may have caused the bleeding. So that coupled with recent concerns from some midwives that I've read has caused me to only recommend it vaginally now.

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, there's other ways to help produce more EWCM and if that's the only reason to take EPO, besides making labor easier, then I wouldn't be able to justify it. It's an omega 6 afterall and those are so easy to come by, especially for those who do eat processed foods.

You know, omega-6 fatty acids increase the production of pro-inflammatory eicosanoids. When the body is inflamed in any way, there is extra cortisol being produced and if there's cortisol being produced this means the body is under stress. This is probably why EPO tends to sway pink, it makes sense. Of course, this is a incredibly condensed explanation and there's some seriously fascinating correlations I'm seeing just by hanging out on the forums as well as my experience working with women.

That being said, I'll be leaving the EPO lol. I eat alot of seeds, thats more than enough omega 6 for me.

:agree: There was also the reasoning that phytoestrogens may sway blue, but that was something I was never sold on to start with.

Autoimmune disorders seem to be associated with more boys conceived. Weirdly, EPO is supposed to be helpful for eczema (never helped mine though!!) These are the areas I would love, love, love to have the ability to investigate more thoroughly.

[amelia10]

It's funny reading this because I have 3 boys and when I conceived all 3 I was taking a high dose of EPO and udos oil and even sometimes starflower oil because it helped with my dry/eczema proned .. definitely had some Part in swaying blue, I'm off all of them now so time will tell ...

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[business.woman]

I have a weird personal experience with EPO which has led me to no longer recommend it orally for inducing labor.

With my 3rd son I was taking it orally trying to induce labor and I ended up having a super fast, super violent labor and I had tons and tons of small red blood clots in my amniotic fluid. The nurses had never seen anything like it and they speculated I may have been starting to have a placental abruption during labor. Fast forward a few years now and I have seen a lot of people have bleeding and bruising while taking it and it is known to be a blood thinner. I am really sensitive to blood thinners (can't even take aspirin at all) and I think it may have caused the bleeding. So that coupled with recent concerns from some midwives that I've read has caused me to only recommend it vaginally now.

I took it in my last pregnancy at 38 weeks orally and vaginally , and it cause me to slightly labour for 3 days , the third day I gave birth finally , after 14 hours of slow labour


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[business.woman]

Also does Tuna one of those food that I should cut back?


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[atomic sagebrush]

I like you guys to only eat fish 2x a week just because of the mercury issue.