Tips to avoid "swaysession?"

[sweetpea]

My attempt is still 3 months away. I've purchased the Personalized Swaying Plan and have chatted a lot with Atomic regarding my plan (thank you, Atomic!!) to get it just right for me. I feel really good with my plan, and in the end, I know I will have done what I could to try and conceive a girl, and the rest will be in God's hands.

However, the only thing I'm a bit worried about is "swaycession" - getting so obsessed with my sway that I actually undo all the good pink things I'm doing by sending my T levels through the roof. I really want to avoid that, but I don't know how. I'm naturally a very obsessive, detail-oriented person (hello, I'm a boy mom! ;) ) and I don't know how to *not* be that way. It's just ingrained in me. I picture myself going through the swaying motions, tracking things, etc, all while trying to relax, but I don't know if "trying to relax" is good enough for keeping my T levels from spiking (I hope that makes sense).

For example...I keep a daily log of my weight (still trying to lose lots before we start swaying in July), I chart my cycles using temps and CM/CP, I use OPKs, and I keep track of my diet through Sparkpeople.com (which I can access both on my computer and my phone).

At first glance, this may look like highly stressful, obsessive activities, but I am actually more relaxed by tracking these things and knowing what's going on. I LIKE to do these things, and have been doing them for years (well, I don't always track my diet, but I do all of the other things and have always done them). The charting is so simple to me, because I've been doing it for years. I typically don't temp the first 5 days or so of my cycle. If I skip a day for whatever reason, I don't panic. And once O is confirmed by CM dry-up and a few days of high temps, I usually stop temping until AF arrives. So, I basically do kind of "lazy charting," if you will - only charting during my fertile window. And the temping itself is no biggie - I set my alarm every morning for 5:30, take my temp while I'm half asleep, and my therm saves the reading, so I just fall back to sleep and record my temp later. Super easy. As for tracking my foods, I will sit down at the computer before bed, enter all my foods for the following day, make sure it pretty much falls within the guidelines of the LE diet, and then go to bed. The next day, it takes all the guess-work out of what to eat, and I just go down the list and follow my eating plan for the day. I know weighing myself daily is often seen as an obsessive thing too, and I agree - maybe I need to ease up on this a bit. But, as with the charting and diet, I NEED to see numbers on paper, so to speak, because not knowing what is going on (with temps, diet, weight, etc) sends me into a panic and stresses me out - which I'm sure raises my T levels.

So, having said all that, does this look like a typical way where a boy mom who is swaying pink will ultimately fail because I'm raising my T levels through this sort of "swaysession?"

Also, is there anything I can do to kind of "trick" my mind into thinking this is no big deal, or that I'm not really paying attention to my sway, or whatever? I really want to be lackadaisical about this...I'm just not sure how to do that.

Any other tips you can give to avoid "swaysession?" Or anything you can suggest to just "relax and go with the flow?" Or great ways to de-stress? I'd love to hear any suggestions you have!

(Sorry this was so long! Also, I just realized that I'm now stressing/obsessing about stressing/obsessing! LOL! ;))

[atomic sagebrush]

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[bambinolla]

I dont know much about it, so feel free to tell me im wrong lol
But what about just indulging in girly things to try to keep the T at bay? painting nails, getting your hair done, wearing make up, wearing dresses if its warm enough, spending some time each day just letting your mind be clear too. Like just setting aside 5 minutes a day to just think nothing. I start by counting to 100 and if any thoughts creep in i just push them out and keep counting as i breathe.

I think if you re in a routine of charting and logging food, then its going to be less stressful to continue with that. and just maybe try to make it so you spend 5 mins a day logging your chart and then dont think about it again till tomorrow, and 15 mins logging food, then dont worry about it again if that makes sense? so dont spend half an hour before hand worrying if you should be logging things or what you are going to log, just try and set time aside so the rest of the time your not thinking about it too much?

As long as your thoughts are not completely over taken by these small tasks you have in your routine i think they sound pretty ok, and cutting things like that out would mean you would be stressing all the time over them rather than the 5 mins it takes to do them.

[sweetpea]

I dont know much about it, so feel free to tell me im wrong lol
But what about just indulging in girly things to try to keep the T at bay? painting nails, getting your hair done, wearing make up, wearing dresses if its warm enough, spending some time each day just letting your mind be clear too. Like just setting aside 5 minutes a day to just think nothing. I start by counting to 100 and if any thoughts creep in i just push them out and keep counting as i breathe.

I think if you re in a routine of charting and logging food, then its going to be less stressful to continue with that. and just maybe try to make it so you spend 5 mins a day logging your chart and then dont think about it again till tomorrow, and 15 mins logging food, then dont worry about it again if that makes sense? so dont spend half an hour before hand worrying if you should be logging things or what you are going to log, just try and set time aside so the rest of the time your not thinking about it too much?

As long as your thoughts are not completely over taken by these small tasks you have in your routine i think they sound pretty ok, and cutting things like that out would mean you would be stressing all the time over them rather than the 5 mins it takes to do them.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head with what I was thinking, in the last part here that I bolded. :agree: I really do not actually stress over these tasks - like you said, I only take a few minutes out here and there to log these things, and then forget about them. I hope this doesn't send a message to my body that I'm obsessing though, and thus end up raising my T levels. Like you said, I think I would be stressing a lot by NOT doing these things.

Thanks for your input/suggestions!! :agree: Anyone else?

[Ribbons]

Sweetpea, you pretty much do the same things I do (except I don't temp b/c I still sleep w/ my toddler and he wakes up so frequently that my temps are never accurate enough to chart by). I weigh myself daily, enter all of my food in the early morning while drinking my coffee, chart on FF (drop the charting after confirmed O), use a CBFM and OPKs and I don't think any of it counts as "swaycession". I literally could do this stuff in my sleep, esp. the diet tracking b/c I have been doing it for years!

I DID "swaycess" for a little while but it involved a lot of analysis of other's sways and diets and getting so wrapped up in the details of it all that I couldn't sleep, and actually would dream about it! When I let all of that go, all that was left was my daily tracking, and that actually relaxes me and keeps me sane b/c I know that as long as I am within my limits, everything will be ok!

Oh - and I love to read, so I read. A LOT. That helps keep me away from the computer and the forums - most of the time LOL

[sweetpea]

Sweetpea, you pretty much do the same things I do (except I don't temp b/c I still sleep w/ my toddler and he wakes up so frequently that my temps are never accurate enough to chart by). I weigh myself daily, enter all of my food in the early morning while drinking my coffee, chart on FF (drop the charting after confirmed O), use a CBFM and OPKs and I don't think any of it counts as "swaycession". I literally could do this stuff in my sleep, esp. the diet tracking b/c I have been doing it for years!

I DID "swaycess" for a little while but it involved a lot of analysis of other's sways and diets and getting so wrapped up in the details of it all that I couldn't sleep, and actually would dream about it! When I let all of that go, all that was left was my daily tracking, and that actually relaxes me and keeps me sane b/c I know that as long as I am within my limits, everything will be ok!

Oh - and I love to read, so I read. A LOT. That helps keep me away from the computer and the forums - most of the time LOL
Yep, that is EXACTLY me! And I, too, could do all this stuff in my sleep - I've been charting on and off for 6 years, so I am super familiar with how to do it (even checking CF and CP) and I don't ever obsess about it. It's very second nature to me. And I like the way I chart now - very lazy-like - by not charting the first 5-6 days or so, and stopping once O is confirmed. I have also tracked my food and my weight on and off for years, although I've really gotten out of the habit of it for the past year or so (when I gained all this weight :( ). I've been back to doing that since January though, so I feel like I'm in a good routine, without stressing too much (or at all, really) about all of this. I hope that I'm not deceiving myself, and that this kind of tracking/attention to detail really IS raising my T levels, even if I don't think it is. I guess that's what I'm worried about.

I will point out, however, that right now I sort of AM "swaycessing" because I'm still ironing out details of my sway (which won't be happening until July, so I still have time to obsess for a little bit, I think). I'm reading as much info as I can, I'm on this site a lot, I'm reading tons of sways, and bugging, er I mean talking to, Atomic a lot (thank you again, Atomic, for your patience with me!!). So yeah, I am sure I'm in "swaycession" mode right now, but I hope to tone it down a lot before July...have my plan all set in stone...and just relax and go through the motions when the time comes. I hope I'm able to do that!

Also - great suggestion about reading! Does reading lower T levels? I *LOVE* to read, but I often can't find the time to do it. If I'm able to let go of obsessing about my plan soon, maybe I'll take a little bit of a break from these boards and take up more reading instead.

I was also thinking of trying to schedule a massage during O week, once we actually start trying (will have to talk hubby into letting me do this!). Do you guys think this will help T levels? Do massages sway?

[Ribbons]

Yep, that is EXACTLY me! And I, too, could do all this stuff in my sleep - I've been charting on and off for 6 years, so I am super familiar with how to do it (even checking CF and CP) and I don't ever obsess about it. It's very second nature to me. And I like the way I chart now - very lazy-like - by not charting the first 5-6 days or so, and stopping once O is confirmed. I have also tracked my food and my weight on and off for years, although I've really gotten out of the habit of it for the past year or so (when I gained all this weight :( ). I've been back to doing that since January though, so I feel like I'm in a good routine, without stressing too much (or at all, really) about all of this. I hope that I'm not deceiving myself, and that this kind of tracking/attention to detail really IS raising my T levels, even if I don't think it is. I guess that's what I'm worried about.

I will point out, however, that right now I sort of AM "swaycessing" because I'm still ironing out details of my sway (which won't be happening until July, so I still have time to obsess for a little bit, I think). I'm reading as much info as I can, I'm on this site a lot, I'm reading tons of sways, and bugging, er I mean talking to, Atomic a lot (thank you again, Atomic, for your patience with me!!). So yeah, I am sure I'm in "swaycession" mode right now, but I hope to tone it down a lot before July...have my plan all set in stone...and just relax and go through the motions when the time comes. I hope I'm able to do that!

Also - great suggestion about reading! Does reading lower T levels? I *LOVE* to read, but I often can't find the time to do it. If I'm able to let go of obsessing about my plan soon, maybe I'll take a little bit of a break from these boards and take up more reading instead.

I was also thinking of trying to schedule a massage during O week, once we actually start trying (will have to talk hubby into letting me do this!). Do you guys think this will help T levels? Do massages sway?

Are we the same person? LOL

I did the same thing - planned a LOT early on, and gave myself an extra 6 weeks just to make sure that I could get it all down and go with it, without thinking about it in the end. I think that's perfect, especially if you are obsessive by nature! I am very confident in my sway and I really feel like I have done everything I need to do up to this point... and no matter what I end up with, I don't think I'll have any regrets about what I could have done. I'm not so sure I would feel that way if I didn't spend the first month or so getting the "obsessing" out of the way! I feel so much more relaxed now about everything.

I think that ANYTHING you enjoy, that allows you to escape and turns your mind "off", will lower your T levels, whether that is reading, taking a bath, watching movies, cooking, or underwater basketweaving :) - I wouldn't suggest you read gender ratio studies like I did for a while there though LOL

:agree: on the massage... I am totally getting one next weekend!! (My first attempt is around 4/28)

[atomic sagebrush]

My thinking is, if you're burning your way thru the New York Times list of "50 books you must read before death" or something like that, then reading does have the potential to raise T levels - like the whole, sense of accomplishment or that you're launching into a project, KWIM? Anything recreational that shuts down your brain, be it reading, or tv or whatever, is great as long as you don't see it as accomplishing anything constructive!

[sweetpea]

Are we the same person? LOL
LOL! It sure sounds like it! ;)


I did the same thing - planned a LOT early on, and gave myself an extra 6 weeks just to make sure that I could get it all down and go with it, without thinking about it in the end. I think that's perfect, especially if you are obsessive by nature! I am very confident in my sway and I really feel like I have done everything I need to do up to this point... and no matter what I end up with, I don't think I'll have any regrets about what I could have done. I'm not so sure I would feel that way if I didn't spend the first month or so getting the "obsessing" out of the way! I feel so much more relaxed now about everything.
This makes me feel so much better! This is *exactly* what I hope to do. I have time now to obsess, iron out details, and get all that "swaycession" stuff out of the way. I am also very confident in my sway, and I know it will give me the best shot at conceiving a girl. I just need to R-E-L-A-X when the time comes!


I think that ANYTHING you enjoy, that allows you to escape and turns your mind "off", will lower your T levels, whether that is reading, taking a bath, watching movies, cooking, or underwater basketweaving :) - I wouldn't suggest you read gender ratio studies like I did for a while there though LOL

:agree: on the massage... I am totally getting one next weekend!! (My first attempt is around 4/28)
LOL about reading gender ratio studies!!! Yep, I've done that, too! :oops: I will try my best to fill my time with enjoyable, relaxing activities (not like I have much time for that, but I can try!). And yes to the massage! I will be doing that the week of our attempt, too! :agree:

Good luck on your first attempt month, Ribbons! It's coming up QUICK! Very excited for you!!! :)

[sweetpea]

My thinking is, if you're burning your way thru the New York Times list of "50 books you must read before death" or something like that, then reading does have the potential to raise T levels - like the whole, sense of accomplishment or that you're launching into a project, KWIM? Anything recreational that shuts down your brain, be it reading, or tv or whatever, is great as long as you don't see it as accomplishing anything constructive!
LOL! Nope - reading is never a "competitive sport" to me, I just like to lose myself in a good book. It's a nice, relaxing escape to me - I really should try and do it more often anyway, swaying or not! :)

[babydust]

I dont know much about it, so feel free to tell me im wrong lol
But what about just indulging in girly things to try to keep the T at bay? painting nails, getting your hair done, wearing make up, wearing dresses if its warm enough, spending some time each day just letting your mind be clear too. Like just setting aside 5 minutes a day to just think nothing. I start by counting to 100 and if any thoughts creep in i just push them out and keep counting as i breathe.

I think if you re in a routine of charting and logging food, then its going to be less stressful to continue with that. and just maybe try to make it so you spend 5 mins a day logging your chart and then dont think about it again till tomorrow, and 15 mins logging food, then dont worry about it again if that makes sense? so dont spend half an hour before hand worrying if you should be logging things or what you are going to log, just try and set time aside so the rest of the time your not thinking about it too much?

As long as your thoughts are not completely over taken by these small tasks you have in your routine i think they sound pretty ok, and cutting things like that out would mean you would be stressing all the time over them rather than the 5 mins it takes to do them.

Yep!! This is what I did during my sway and it helped to get me way more relaxed and less sway obsessed for sure :)

[babydust]

And I also planned a LOT ahead of time. For my actual sway I didn't do much research at all, just rolled with it. Oh and I did do a lot of reading during my sway, just recreational reading, books that I enjoyed. At bed, when my son was sleeping and Dh watching TV. Put my rock salt lamp on and ionic diffuser (whether the neg ions helped I don't know, but the soft light and lavendar scents sure were relaxing!). And drifted off to sleep every night. I tried to keep positive. Took walks outside with my son near the water, got mini massages at the nail place, got mani's and pedi's...long luxerious warm lavender bubble bath. Long naps when Dh was home. Lot's of down time. It was great! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

And I hope babydust will not mind if I mention this but she was one of the most swaycessed people EVER going into her sway! She was planning like a year in advance!! :p And she still got her girl - so it proves that you can sway around swaycession! :)

[sweetpea]

And I hope babydust will not mind if I mention this but she was one of the most swaycessed people EVER going into her sway! She was planning like a year in advance!! :p And she still got her girl - so it proves that you can sway around swaycession! :)
This is very, very encouraging and inspiring! :agree: I guess the important thing is, no matter how "swaycessed" you are, make sure to sort of turn your mind off and relax and trust your plan when it comes time to attempt. I will have to incorporate lots of relaxation into my plan, then! ;)

And actually, even though my first attempt is still 3 months away, I am very confident in my plan. The only thing stressing me out is wanting and NEEDING to get this weight off before swaying. It's so slow-going, and the super impatient part of me wants to wake up tomorrow 40 pounds lighter! LOL! If only it were that easy. ;) I'll just keeping truckin' along, though...I know I'll get there eventually...

[Princess of Pink]

I have always obsessed about every single detail of everything...especially TTC. My entire life is charted and tracked and graphed in some way lol. I still have 5 girls...so don't stress hon!!

And BTW...I was super laid back and casual about charting too...until I started TTC...now I am so excited to see my temp I keep waking up all night checking if it's 5am yet!! I am sooooo tired lol

[auroara78]

I did sway obess too with this sway, but instead of it causing me stress, it caused me pleasure to think again and again about the things i wouldn't or would do....it was almost like reading a good book. So for me I always obsess over whatever I'm working on, but I didn't make it compeptive in my head (like I must *win* swaying!) or did I get too stressy over the decisions. The most stress I had in my sway was deciding if I was going to nix the RePhresh which I did, but I wasn't upset over this, it was just a very logical calm back and forth pro-con discussion in my head.

[Ribbons]

I did sway obess too with this sway, but instead of it causing me stress, it caused me pleasure to think again and again about the things i wouldn't or would do....it was almost like reading a good book. So for me I always obsess over whatever I'm working on, but I didn't make it compeptive in my head (like I must *win* swaying!) or did I get too stressy over the decisions. The most stress I had in my sway was deciding if I was going to nix the RePhresh which I did, but I wasn't upset over this, it was just a very logical calm back and forth pro-con discussion in my head.

Thanks for this auroara, this is exactly what I am doing and I have felt like I have been completely calm but still wondered if it could be considered "obsessing". However, I know what I am like when I obsess and it is not like this, if that makes any sense! :)

Again, so happy for you and I hope to join you buying a ton of pink soon!

[sweetpea]

I have always obsessed about every single detail of everything...especially TTC. My entire life is charted and tracked and graphed in some way lol. I still have 5 girls...so don't stress hon!!

And BTW...I was super laid back and casual about charting too...until I started TTC...now I am so excited to see my temp I keep waking up all night checking if it's 5am yet!! I am sooooo tired lol
Thanks, POP! This makes me feel a bit better. Although I'm still going to try my best to avoid obsessing! :)

[sweetpea]

I did sway obess too with this sway, but instead of it causing me stress, it caused me pleasure to think again and again about the things i wouldn't or would do....it was almost like reading a good book. So for me I always obsess over whatever I'm working on, but I didn't make it compeptive in my head (like I must *win* swaying!) or did I get too stressy over the decisions. The most stress I had in my sway was deciding if I was going to nix the RePhresh which I did, but I wasn't upset over this, it was just a very logical calm back and forth pro-con discussion in my head.
I know exactly what you mean, auroara! I'm kind of like this too - I am thrilled to have found this forum and to have all of this information at my fingertips, and I'm actually *excited* to sway and to put all this information to work. If I'm obsessing, it's not so much a stressful, worrying type of obsessing, it's more that I'm just excited to go through the plan and to do my best. However, I still worry that this is still "swaycessing" and that it will raise my T levels....

On another note though - I see that you did get your GIRL, auroara!!!! I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to congratulate you yet (super busy weekend), but I just wanted to say that I am BEYOND THRILLED for you!!!! I literally squealed in delight when I saw your update - my DH thinks I'm crazy, haha! I'm very, very happy for you and I love the name you picked out! CONGRATULATIONS!!! :) :) :)

[sweetpea]

Thanks for this auroara, this is exactly what I am doing and I have felt like I have been completely calm but still wondered if it could be considered "obsessing". However, I know what I am like when I obsess and it is not like this, if that makes any sense! :)
Yep, that makes total sense to me! I know what you mean, and I feel the same way. :agree:

[ThroughWithBlue]

OMG I am so glad I found this thread, I will be stalking it. I had a full on plan with the IG sway before DS1 was born lol, then DS2 was conceived unplanned so that just threw all my plans away. Now I'm having to start on the LE sway stuff which is so different and I am so obsessive and competitive. I just want to WIN my DD! I do totally think of it as "winning" something I want so bad. Totally obsessive, competitve, detail orientated boy mom who can honestly NOT not think of anything. I try with yoga to meditate, or just do what my husband does which is "think of nothing all day long except......I'm hungry I need to eat......I'm tired I need to sleep...." LOL that's seriously what he says his thoughts consist of. I always have a mental list of 1,000 things that need to be done and I am perfectionist. If you guys can find anything that can make your mind take a break let me know lol Either way it's nice to know I'm not alone!
As far as weighing yourself I'd drop that if I were you guys! I gesstimate my meals. Otherwise I get very obsessive and eat barely anything. If i weigh myself I just get off feeling GOD you are FAT go to the gym and then get depressed whether its 110 or 125 which is my normal range. I think weighing yoruself is something really easy to not do or obsess over. If my jeans fit I know I'm ok.
I also just plan on making 8-10 daily meal plans and using it through the sway. I eat pretty much teh same thing every day for months then I will change a meal up anyway. That way I don't track anything and obsess over it because that leads me to eating for comfort like chocolate usually

[auroara78]

Thank you sweetpea & ribbons for your kind words!!

Yeah, I definitely scooped up some pink, lavender and purple this weekend! My DH was like "ummm, you said we couldn't afford anything?" Heheh I keep saying we can't afford the beer he wants to drink so he was a little surprised by the armload of crap I bought this weekend!

I love all you ladies so much!!! :hug2:

Looking back, I felt very calm and like I said, I did think about swaying a ton, but it didn't feel competitive to me (except when I was on IG), but surely my DH would have said I was over the rails obsessed :rofl:

I would talk his ear off about swaying, and at first he tolerated it, and then he started to get a bit annoyed, and asked if I was interested in anything else at that moment.....I guess the answer was no.

I do think reading books is a good idea for trying to take up some of the focus off swaying. I'm a librarian, and reading books is my fall-back activity when I need something! Though I still wish I was really crafty and could make cute little booties or blankets....

[CherryBlossom]

OH MY GOSH. I feel like I could have written EVERYTHING You ladies have written!!! hence I came on here PRE TTC.... by like 16 months before TTC LOL!!!
I am the exact same way you girls are HAHA.... oh gosh can't half tell I am a mummy of two boys!!!!
I've said to DP that we are going to get this house up to scratch NOW!!!! So that when we are TTC I feel comfortable with the home I live in. We have a year to work out anything that is up in the air.
Im a stresshead I also obsess alot. So I have a year to work that out.

I have also thought A LOT about meditation and even yoga the last couple of weeks. Anyone know if pink swayers can do that? Im thinking meditation beings stress levels down... low stress = girl? Correct me if I am wrong please.

Oh man... I am so over joyed that I have found this site. Im totally way more excited now LOL and actually de stressed from finding this forum wooohoo =D

[sweetpea]

Thank you sweetpea & ribbons for your kind words!!

Yeah, I definitely scooped up some pink, lavender and purple this weekend! My DH was like "ummm, you said we couldn't afford anything?" Heheh I keep saying we can't afford the beer he wants to drink so he was a little surprised by the armload of crap I bought this weekend!

I love all you ladies so much!!! :hug2:

Looking back, I felt very calm and like I said, I did think about swaying a ton, but it didn't feel competitive to me (except when I was on IG), but surely my DH would have said I was over the rails obsessed :rofl:

I would talk his ear off about swaying, and at first he tolerated it, and then he started to get a bit annoyed, and asked if I was interested in anything else at that moment.....I guess the answer was no.

I do think reading books is a good idea for trying to take up some of the focus off swaying. I'm a librarian, and reading books is my fall-back activity when I need something! Though I still wish I was really crafty and could make cute little booties or blankets....
YAY for buying a bunch of girly things!!! :) That must have felt sooo good - I hope I'm lucky enough to buy girly clothes for MY daughter one day, instead of just for my lovely nieces and my friends' baby girls! ;)

I literally LOL'd when you said you talked your poor hubby's ear off about swaying, and that he got sick of it! I could have written that myself, haha! I have done the same thing, and my hubby also asks if that's all I think about/want to talk about. LOL! ;)

I'm definitely going to take up a bunch of reading. :agree: I love to read, and I know it will relax me during swaying.

[sweetpea]

OH MY GOSH. I feel like I could have written EVERYTHING You ladies have written!!! hence I came on here PRE TTC.... by like 16 months before TTC LOL!!!
I am the exact same way you girls are HAHA.... oh gosh can't half tell I am a mummy of two boys!!!!
I've said to DP that we are going to get this house up to scratch NOW!!!! So that when we are TTC I feel comfortable with the home I live in. We have a year to work out anything that is up in the air.
Im a stresshead I also obsess alot. So I have a year to work that out.

I have also thought A LOT about meditation and even yoga the last couple of weeks. Anyone know if pink swayers can do that? Im thinking meditation beings stress levels down... low stress = girl? Correct me if I am wrong please.

Oh man... I am so over joyed that I have found this site. Im totally way more excited now LOL and actually de stressed from finding this forum wooohoo =D
Welcome, CherryBlossom (love your name!). I was just as happy to find this site as well! I know what you mean, by the time our first attempt comes around, I'll have been on this site for over 7 months - so lots of reading and researching before our actual sway! I figure I can obsess now, but I need to cool it off and relax in the coming months.

I'm not sure about meditation and yoga...I think they might be okay for a pink sway, but you might want to check with Atomic or others on here first.

Again, welcome! And good luck with your sway! :)

[Ribbons]

Speaking of relaxation... just got back from my massage! That was awesome! My massage therapist does a combo of shiatsu/ayurveda and it was heavenly. Funny, b/c I've never told him about my ectopic and he asked me while he was working on my lower back, "have you had abdominal surgery?" Then he proceeded to fix something that was "out of whack" in that area... hope he didn't accidentally make me more fertile and sway boy, I'm totally blaming the massage if I get a boy out of this! :P

He recommended an acupuncturist as well, but I think I'm going to steer clear of that for now, at least for the first couple of months...

[auroara78]

Sweetpea, I hope the same thing for you :) That you will be enjoying all the clothes buying and just enjoy the thought of a mother-daughter bond of having a girl.

My DH does not believe in swaying. He loves to use his "coin" theory, which is simply if heads = boys, and girls = tails, that each flip of a coin is a new event onto itself and it has no memory or idea of what was flipped before or after it. So therefore getting 3-4 boys in a row, would just be the randomness of each event of coin landing on head all those times. And vice vera for girls, or a mix.

Even though we got a daughter by swaying (and obviously I told him all about it :rofl:) he just believes our coin landed this time on "tails" and that my swaying did nothing for it. I definitely think my sway helped up the odds, for sure. How much, of course, I'll never know. My thinking of it is really more that swaying makes you flip with a "weighted" coin, as in that everything you do to try to concieve that gender gives the face of the coin you desire a greater "likeihood" to land on that side.

LOL, I finished my sway and here I am, still obsessing about swaying. I guess it has now become a passion of mine. Trying to figure out what really does sway, what's nonsense in swaying, and how to help people that I care about on this board achieve their dreams :)

[Ribbons]

LOL, I finished my sway and here I am, still obsessing about swaying. I guess it has now become a passion of mine. Trying to figure out what really does sway, what's nonsense in swaying, and how to help people that I care about on this board achieve their dreams :)

auroara, I will totally be in your position too if my sway is a success! And, if not... well, I'll be here swaying again :)

[auroara78]

Ribbons, the thought has already crept into my head that if everything goes well with DD, that in a few years, I may try swaying again to get another DD! Though I still have this lingering desire that I need a 3rd boy as well, so I guess that sway will really be stress free because I'd just be happy with either gender to complete my family.

[atomic sagebrush]

OH MY GOSH. I feel like I could have written EVERYTHING You ladies have written!!! hence I came on here PRE TTC.... by like 16 months before TTC LOL!!!
I am the exact same way you girls are HAHA.... oh gosh can't half tell I am a mummy of two boys!!!!
I've said to DP that we are going to get this house up to scratch NOW!!!! So that when we are TTC I feel comfortable with the home I live in. We have a year to work out anything that is up in the air.
Im a stresshead I also obsess alot. So I have a year to work that out.

I have also thought A LOT about meditation and even yoga the last couple of weeks. Anyone know if pink swayers can do that? Im thinking meditation beings stress levels down... low stress = girl? Correct me if I am wrong please.

Oh man... I am so over joyed that I have found this site. Im totally way more excited now LOL and actually de stressed from finding this forum wooohoo =D

Anything that lowers testosterone, sways pink. You can actually lower your testosterone two ways - one is by being SOO stressed that your body gets run down and kinda gives up and stops making as much testosterone (this is what worked for me - I don't recommend it LOL), and the other is by doing away with stress as much as you possibly can. (this is what will be more effective for most people because it took months of intense, unpleasantness for my T to go down.) Eliminating stress is easier and more reliable for pink swayers.

Not to rain on anyone's parade but I do think "happy" stressors can raise T just as much as any can. We can't eliminate all forms of stress of course.

[atomic sagebrush]

OH MY GOSH. I feel like I could have written EVERYTHING You ladies have written!!! hence I came on here PRE TTC.... by like 16 months before TTC LOL!!!
I am the exact same way you girls are HAHA.... oh gosh can't half tell I am a mummy of two boys!!!!
I've said to DP that we are going to get this house up to scratch NOW!!!! So that when we are TTC I feel comfortable with the home I live in. We have a year to work out anything that is up in the air.
Im a stresshead I also obsess alot. So I have a year to work that out.

I have also thought A LOT about meditation and even yoga the last couple of weeks. Anyone know if pink swayers can do that? Im thinking meditation beings stress levels down... low stress = girl? Correct me if I am wrong please.

Oh man... I am so over joyed that I have found this site. Im totally way more excited now LOL and actually de stressed from finding this forum wooohoo =D

Anything that lowers testosterone, sways pink. You can actually lower your testosterone two ways - one is by being SOO stressed that your body gets run down and kinda gives up and stops making as much testosterone (this is what worked for me - I don't recommend it LOL), and the other is by doing away with stress as much as you possibly can. (this is what will be more effective for most people because it took months of intense, unpleasantness for my T to go down.) Eliminating stress is easier and more reliable for pink swayers.

Not to rain on anyone's parade but I do think "happy" stressors can raise T just as much as any can. We can't eliminate all forms of stress of course.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sweetpea, I hope the same thing for you :) That you will be enjoying all the clothes buying and just enjoy the thought of a mother-daughter bond of having a girl.

My DH does not believe in swaying. He loves to use his "coin" theory, which is simply if heads = boys, and girls = tails, that each flip of a coin is a new event onto itself and it has no memory or idea of what was flipped before or after it. So therefore getting 3-4 boys in a row, would just be the randomness of each event of coin landing on head all those times. And vice vera for girls, or a mix.

Even though we got a daughter by swaying (and obviously I told him all about it :rofl:) he just believes our coin landed this time on "tails" and that my swaying did nothing for it. I definitely think my sway helped up the odds, for sure. How much, of course, I'll never know. My thinking of it is really more that swaying makes you flip with a "weighted" coin, as in that everything you do to try to concieve that gender gives the face of the coin you desire a greater "likeihood" to land on that side.

LOL, I finished my sway and here I am, still obsessing about swaying. I guess it has now become a passion of mine. Trying to figure out what really does sway, what's nonsense in swaying, and how to help people that I care about on this board achieve their dreams :)

Auroara, if he can figure out a way to get a coin to come up with heads 140-160 times for every 100 tails (or even just 105 times for every 100 tails) then I'd be right there with him! Science cannot explain why so many more boys are conceived/born because men make 50-50 X and Y sperm. I didn't believe swaying was real when I started to look into it either but there's just no way that 50-50 X and Y sperm can yield anything other than 50-50 boy and girl conceptions/births, unless swaying is real.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/science-behind-gender-swaying/5238-defense-swaying-part-1-swaying-real.html

I agree with your weighted coin analogy - have you read this one??

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/257-another-way-look-swaying-odds.html

[sweetpea]

Sorry guys, didn't mean to be MIA - had a super busy weekend and before that, the forums were down, so I haven't really had a chance to post.

Ribbons - I hope you enjoyed your massage! Sounds heavenly. :) I will definitely be scheduling one in our attempt month. :agree:

Auroara - I know what you mean! This is how crazy I am - I've already thought about my sway for #4, and I'm not even ready to sway for #3 yet! LOL! ;)

Atomic - when you said in a previous post that even "happy" stressors can raise T levels, what did you mean by that? Are you talking about the whole conquering a difficult task/succeeding at a certain task thing? I have to admit that the testosterone thing is what confuses me and worries me the most about swaying. :(

[Ribbons]

Atomic - when you said in a previous post that even "happy" stressors can raise T levels, what did you mean by that? Are you talking about the whole conquering a difficult task/succeeding at a certain task thing? I have to admit that the testosterone thing is what confuses me and worries me the most about swaying. :(

Me too sweetpea! I think I have come to grips with the fact that I honestly, truly have reduced my stress and obsession as far as it will possibly go. I am not going to worry, not going to stress about it any more! Yes I think about swaying quite a bit, but the moment I start worrying about how much I am thinking about it, it completely changes my "state of mind" and makes me feel more stressed, so complicated!! So I try to put it out of mind as much as possible, but when it creeps back in, I don't fight it. I hope this is enough - we are right on top of O and already put in a few attempts so no going back now :)

[sweetpea]

I think you're doing a fantastic job with your sway, Ribbons! I wouldn't worry or stress about it at all (and it sounds like you're not, so that's good!). YAY for putting in a few attempts already! How exciting!! Have you O'd yet, or where are you in your cycle?

[Ribbons]

Just got a +OPK at 5pm PST, so just a few hours ago... so, should O Tuesday morning at latest! 2 attempts planned for tomorrow! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic - when you said in a previous post that even "happy" stressors can raise T levels, what did you mean by that? Are you talking about the whole conquering a difficult task/succeeding at a certain task thing? I have to admit that the testosterone thing is what confuses me and worries me the most about swaying. :(

Yes, if you win at a fun game or you sew a quilt or you kick back and watch your favorite sporting team win, it's just as "bad" (and possibly WORSE) for T levels than if you endure something terrible and come out on the other side. So if you view food diaries as "fun", that's not necessarily a good thing, KWIM?? If you've done it for years and it's second nature, that's one thing - but the people who think, "well, I like doing food diaries, I like charting, I think swaying is really going to be a FUN PROJECT" - that's not necessarily a good thing for T levels.

Testosterone is a tough concept for people to grasp (both pink and blue swayers) but the good news is, you don't HAVE to. Just by virtue of doing diet, weight loss, and some of the supps, you are doing a LOT towards lowering those levels anyway.

We're getting such good results just thru LE Diet that I am starting to think the T levels may be less of an issue on here than on IG, where some of the aspects of their diet may actually have been raising T. It was much more on IG than on this site, where I saw the people who did the "everything including the kitchen sink" sways and got opposites. So please don't overthink or worry too much about this - we may have overcome the entire ball-o-wax to some extent just by doing away with the massive dairy intake and cutting out the chicken/eggs.

[atomic sagebrush]

Me too sweetpea! I think I have come to grips with the fact that I honestly, truly have reduced my stress and obsession as far as it will possibly go. I am not going to worry, not going to stress about it any more! Yes I think about swaying quite a bit, but the moment I start worrying about how much I am thinking about it, it completely changes my "state of mind" and makes me feel more stressed, so complicated!! So I try to put it out of mind as much as possible, but when it creeps back in, I don't fight it. I hope this is enough - we are right on top of O and already put in a few attempts so no going back now :)

Lower is lower - it may well be that for some of us, the lowest our T can go is STILL higher than 95% of other women out there walking around on the face of the planet, and for some women, the highest their T can go is still lower than 95% of other women, but as long as your T is going down you're more likely to conceive a girl, and as long as it's going up, you're more likely to conceive a boy - it's not your T levels in comparison to anyone else's, it's your T levels in comparison to what yours were doing previously that matters.

[sweetpea]

Thank you, Atomic! Both of those replies make me feel a lot better about T levels. I guess I just have in my mind this worry that even if I do everything pretty well (diet, supps, etc), it won't matter how well I do it bc T levels could potentially mess up the whole thing, kwim?

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, just keep in mind that you can't control your T levels - they're sort of part and parcel of who you are, and it never pays to worry over things you can't control anyway. Just do the doable and let the rest go becasue the things that are uncontrollable, are by definition out of your control LOL!!!!

[sweetpea]

Oh yes, I know that it's pretty much out of my control (which, being a control-freak-boy-mom makes me absolutely crazy, haha!) but I know there are things I can do/not do that can help make my T levels to NOT skyrocket, kwim? I'm just afraid that doing some kind of T-raising activity (even if it's a good kind of activity, but still makes you feel a sense of accomplishment) will be raising my T levels so high that it will end up counteracting all the good swaying things I'm doing. I guess that's more what I'm worried about.

[atomic sagebrush]

But both girl moms and boy moms do stuff like that all the time just as a part of day to day life. You're just trying to avoid the unneccessary stuff like swaycession, competitive sports, and appearing in the Pillsbury Bake Off for a few months.

[sweetpea]

Gotcha! :agree: Hahaha! I'm not much of a baker (or very much into sports), so we're good there! ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

Anyone stumbling onto this old thread I have an essay here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/62481-help-what-swaycession.html