Thread: Respond too Fast
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February 2nd, 2014, 08:29 AM #1
Respond too Fast
Dr P,
What does it mean if you respond too quickly to stims?
I cycled with you in June and we are coming back for our FET! But, this has been bothering me ever since we cycled!
I was on 150 Lupron and 75 Menopur. I was on meds for 9 days and we ended up with 14 retrieved. The follicles grew really big quickly though...my e2 was around 3,300 and they ranged in size from 22-27! I'm wondering what we would do next time? Whether it would be better to stim on an even lower dose or if we would start higher and then taper way down to try and recruit more follicles (my AFC was 25, so I'm thinking we could possibly have gotten more eggs?).
Just curious what causes such a fast response?DW (33), DH (35) to ODS (11) and YDS (6) and (2016). Hoped to add a little in 2014/2015, but it appears it is going to take way longer than expected.
Cycle 1 - May 2013 - HRC - retrieval - Feb 2014 FET Planned Transfer - early blast resulted in a chemical (Chemical #1).
Cycle 2 - May 2014 - HRC - No Normal XX embryos - No Transfer
Cycle 3 - October 2014 - HRC - Retrieval and Unplanned FET in December 2014 - Normal XX resulted in another chemical (Chemical #2).
January 2015 Immune Testing with Dr Braverman - He suspects mild endometriosis is my issue and wants me to have a lap.
April 2015 lap surgery scheduled with renowned endometriosis surgeon. Stage 2 endometriosis found and excised!
FET #3 - June 2015 - HRC - On Dr Braverman Immune Treatment (Lovenox, Prednisone, Intralipids, and Femara) My last xx embryo didn't survive the thaw (transferred backup donor embryo) - Chemical #3
June 2015 - Sign up with adoption agencies as current plan (IVF does not seem to work for me).
July 2015 - Receive 2 beautiful xx donor embryos! Decided to hire a proven surrogate to transfer to so I can end my quest for baby girl.
September 2015 - First Natural Attempt without protection in 6 years = BFP 7dpo Beta 13 dpo 221, Beta 15 dpo 653, Seen at 6 and 8 Weeks! Panorama Test reveals bubs is another so transfer with surrogate/adoption is still on! Ask Braverman why this is happening and now he says we must have "gender dreamer issue" and not immune issues?!
Received calls about baby girls for Adoption in November 2015, May 2016, and August 2016 - All had to turn down because of planned surrogacy transfers.
January 2016 - FET #1 with proven surrogate - BFP 4dpt, Beta 12dpt 601, Beta 14 dpt 1,342, Beta 18dpt 734... CHEMICAL #4
May 2016 - Baby Boy arrives healthy at 39 weeks (planned c section) - 8.5 lbs! I love love love this baby boy. He is such a blessing and a rainbow to me!
July 2016 - FET #2 with proven surrogate and last donor embryo - BFP 3.5dpt! Beta 11dpt 374, Beta 13dpt 828, Beta 15dpt 1,689, Beta 18dpt 4,925! Seen at 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 10 weeks, and 12 weeks. Went for Gender Scan at 16 weeks and it shows baby passed away at 15 weeks.
I JUST DON'T GET IT. HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?? SO SAD.
Moving onto Adoption - I need to believe in a Real Live Baby and not a theory of a baby!
UPDATE!! We have our new daughter through adoption March 2017!! We are in love and our family is complete!!
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February 4th, 2014, 12:42 PM #2Moderator
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Hello- for your next cycle, we would do a quick taper and consider having you stay on 10U Lupron rather than decreasing to 5U Lupron.
Hope this helps, we look forward to seeing you soon.
Best,
DPDaniel A. Potter, MD
Medical Director, HRC Fertility Newport Beach, California
Laboratory Director, Natera (formerly Gene Security Network)
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@ivfgenderselect
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February 4th, 2014, 08:00 PM #3
Thanks! I realized I had a typo above - it was 150 gonal f. So, I'm guessing my own hormones jumped in and caused the follicles to grow even faster? So, the higher dose with quick taper would recruit more and the higher dose of Lupron would suppress my own hormones, right?
Thank you! We will see you soon!DW (33), DH (35) to ODS (11) and YDS (6) and (2016). Hoped to add a little in 2014/2015, but it appears it is going to take way longer than expected.
Cycle 1 - May 2013 - HRC - retrieval - Feb 2014 FET Planned Transfer - early blast resulted in a chemical (Chemical #1).
Cycle 2 - May 2014 - HRC - No Normal XX embryos - No Transfer
Cycle 3 - October 2014 - HRC - Retrieval and Unplanned FET in December 2014 - Normal XX resulted in another chemical (Chemical #2).
January 2015 Immune Testing with Dr Braverman - He suspects mild endometriosis is my issue and wants me to have a lap.
April 2015 lap surgery scheduled with renowned endometriosis surgeon. Stage 2 endometriosis found and excised!
FET #3 - June 2015 - HRC - On Dr Braverman Immune Treatment (Lovenox, Prednisone, Intralipids, and Femara) My last xx embryo didn't survive the thaw (transferred backup donor embryo) - Chemical #3
June 2015 - Sign up with adoption agencies as current plan (IVF does not seem to work for me).
July 2015 - Receive 2 beautiful xx donor embryos! Decided to hire a proven surrogate to transfer to so I can end my quest for baby girl.
September 2015 - First Natural Attempt without protection in 6 years = BFP 7dpo Beta 13 dpo 221, Beta 15 dpo 653, Seen at 6 and 8 Weeks! Panorama Test reveals bubs is another so transfer with surrogate/adoption is still on! Ask Braverman why this is happening and now he says we must have "gender dreamer issue" and not immune issues?!
Received calls about baby girls for Adoption in November 2015, May 2016, and August 2016 - All had to turn down because of planned surrogacy transfers.
January 2016 - FET #1 with proven surrogate - BFP 4dpt, Beta 12dpt 601, Beta 14 dpt 1,342, Beta 18dpt 734... CHEMICAL #4
May 2016 - Baby Boy arrives healthy at 39 weeks (planned c section) - 8.5 lbs! I love love love this baby boy. He is such a blessing and a rainbow to me!
July 2016 - FET #2 with proven surrogate and last donor embryo - BFP 3.5dpt! Beta 11dpt 374, Beta 13dpt 828, Beta 15dpt 1,689, Beta 18dpt 4,925! Seen at 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 10 weeks, and 12 weeks. Went for Gender Scan at 16 weeks and it shows baby passed away at 15 weeks.
I JUST DON'T GET IT. HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?? SO SAD.
Moving onto Adoption - I need to believe in a Real Live Baby and not a theory of a baby!
UPDATE!! We have our new daughter through adoption March 2017!! We are in love and our family is complete!!
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March 24th, 2014, 02:12 AM #4Moderator
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This is basically correct. Because with gender selection, we have to not only discard the abnormal embryo but also discard half of the normal embryos (as they are the opposite gender) we want to maximize the recruitment phase and thereby maximize the number of embryos of the desired gender.
Daniel A. Potter, MD
Medical Director, HRC Fertility Newport Beach, California
Laboratory Director, Natera (formerly Gene Security Network)
http://www.amazon.com/What-When-You-...keywords=hanin
http://www.danielapottermd.com
@ivfgenderselect
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March 25th, 2014, 07:58 AM #5
Thank you! Unfortunately, our FET resulted in a chemical.
I will be going back to see you in May and I'm hopeful we can make it work with a fresh transfer.DW (33), DH (35) to ODS (11) and YDS (6) and (2016). Hoped to add a little in 2014/2015, but it appears it is going to take way longer than expected.
Cycle 1 - May 2013 - HRC - retrieval - Feb 2014 FET Planned Transfer - early blast resulted in a chemical (Chemical #1).
Cycle 2 - May 2014 - HRC - No Normal XX embryos - No Transfer
Cycle 3 - October 2014 - HRC - Retrieval and Unplanned FET in December 2014 - Normal XX resulted in another chemical (Chemical #2).
January 2015 Immune Testing with Dr Braverman - He suspects mild endometriosis is my issue and wants me to have a lap.
April 2015 lap surgery scheduled with renowned endometriosis surgeon. Stage 2 endometriosis found and excised!
FET #3 - June 2015 - HRC - On Dr Braverman Immune Treatment (Lovenox, Prednisone, Intralipids, and Femara) My last xx embryo didn't survive the thaw (transferred backup donor embryo) - Chemical #3
June 2015 - Sign up with adoption agencies as current plan (IVF does not seem to work for me).
July 2015 - Receive 2 beautiful xx donor embryos! Decided to hire a proven surrogate to transfer to so I can end my quest for baby girl.
September 2015 - First Natural Attempt without protection in 6 years = BFP 7dpo Beta 13 dpo 221, Beta 15 dpo 653, Seen at 6 and 8 Weeks! Panorama Test reveals bubs is another so transfer with surrogate/adoption is still on! Ask Braverman why this is happening and now he says we must have "gender dreamer issue" and not immune issues?!
Received calls about baby girls for Adoption in November 2015, May 2016, and August 2016 - All had to turn down because of planned surrogacy transfers.
January 2016 - FET #1 with proven surrogate - BFP 4dpt, Beta 12dpt 601, Beta 14 dpt 1,342, Beta 18dpt 734... CHEMICAL #4
May 2016 - Baby Boy arrives healthy at 39 weeks (planned c section) - 8.5 lbs! I love love love this baby boy. He is such a blessing and a rainbow to me!
July 2016 - FET #2 with proven surrogate and last donor embryo - BFP 3.5dpt! Beta 11dpt 374, Beta 13dpt 828, Beta 15dpt 1,689, Beta 18dpt 4,925! Seen at 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 10 weeks, and 12 weeks. Went for Gender Scan at 16 weeks and it shows baby passed away at 15 weeks.
I JUST DON'T GET IT. HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?? SO SAD.
Moving onto Adoption - I need to believe in a Real Live Baby and not a theory of a baby!
UPDATE!! We have our new daughter through adoption March 2017!! We are in love and our family is complete!!
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