That's right Begonia and ELP my thoughts exactly!

Mine have all been surprises It's so hard to be disapointed with a wriggling little piece of beauty in your arms Just buy yourself some white babygrows and imagine the little bald person filling them!!

TTC5 I am with you on the not finding out til birth! I like the envelope idea too ... at least that way you two can have a private moment. But personally I know if I hear girl at 20 weeks (from an envelope or a tech) I will not enjoy the next 20 so much, but if I hear "GIRL!" in delivery and then hold her in my arms ... I'll fall in love immediately :-) FX you get your blue bundle love!

I love you husbands positive outlook. I like your style.

i think that's a lovely idea, i do hope if you look together in that envelope,that it says boy!and if you decide to wait till birth and they hold the baby up you see "boy bits!" all,the best for you both.:fx: