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    ^^^ the same logic applies to J and D that it does to doggy style - when a lot of people have heard something works, they do it for swaying (alongside lots of other things) and so you can't just single out a thing people say worked, and know that it does. J and D did seem to add a LITTLE something, but it was only just a little better than without J and D and for all we know, it was a total fluke that had nothing to do with anything!!!
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    That makes sense. It is just that the stats of one attempt (and not jump and dump) are so much lower. But I guess most people try J&D. I will put my mind to rest with your info and wait and see if I am/will be even pregnant at all.

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    But they weren't always. When the results with one attempt were at their most reliable (due to less people doing it) J nd D only added a couple % (well within the number of people who could be a fluke). Many, many, MANY of the people who have subsequently done one attempt were people who showed up here and didn't wanna do diet at all, only dieted for 2 weeks, didn't wanna exercise or did only mod exercise, basically didn't wanna do any of the hard stuff, and ONLY did one attempt. So OF COURSE at that point in time, the numbers on one attempt dropped. But when they were being comprised of only/mostly the people who were doing diet/exercise, one attempt was 73% and one attempt plus J and D went between 74/75%
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    Oh wow! I didn’t read this in the stats. Thank you so much for your in depth answer. I feel much better already.

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    I can't keep all these observations in the stats, there's not enough room for it all in there. But the stuff I recommend, all of it has these kinds of observations behind them. We've been at this for 10 years and I have been able to pick out a lot of trends that go far beyond what the stats seem to indicate.

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    That’s why I am thinking very highly of you Atomic, thanks!

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