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    Please take a look - FF vs. OPKs - which is right?

    Fertility Friend thinks I ovulated on Tuesday, the 16th, but I never got a +opk, and I did not have cm. Also, my cervix is still open. It has stayed high, and keeps going back and forth between medium and soft.

    Here is the link to my chart:
    <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/22e3ca">My Ovulation Chart</a>
    CD 1 is really CD 37. I came off of BCP and weaned my son, so I have only had a very light period/spotting incident from Sept. 3 - 6 that I am starting my cycle count from. I started charting on Oct. 9, so that's why it is cd1. Also, I only temped sporadically at first, so I don't know how valid my chart is.

    And here are my opks. The 15th and 16th have stars on them. Do any of these look positive to you? They all look negative to me.
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    Is it possible that I could have ovulated on Tuesday and my cervix still be open today?
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    Hmm. Well that is a heckuva temp shift, so I can see why FF gave you crosshairs. However, I doubt that with your open cervix, mine has never ever been open past a day or so after O. And that's also exceptionally super early to ov. As well it's not going to be very accurate if FF is using your AF temps, temps during AF tend to be really weird anyways.

    Have you tried switching your detection method to FAM instead of Advanced? It's more conservative.

    All those OPK's look negative to me. I suspect that you haven't properly o'ed yet.
    Me (38) and DH (38)

    SAHM military momma to DS1 (2004), DS2 (who's all boy but loves to dance, though not in a tutu!) (2006), DS3 (2009), and our rainbow baby girl DD1 (2017)

    early m/c Jan 2013

    Cycle #1 @ HRC (Oct 2014) - 6 retrieved, 4 mature, 3 fertilized and biopsied. 1XX and 1XY abnormal. 1XX no DNA found, rebiopsied and found normal, frozen.
    FET attempt #1 (Nov 2014) - cancelled due to functional cyst. FET attempt #2 (Jan 30, 2015) - NT. Remaining embie failed to thaw.

    May 2015 - started infertility treatments at OFC. Femara 2.5mg
    July 2015 - BFP after second round of Femara. Aug 4 2015 - 6w4d
    Dec 21 2015 - mmc 7w1d

    Apr 2016 - IVF Cycle #2. Converted to IUI because of uneven response and leading follicles.
    Apr 19, 2016 - IUI with 3 mature follicles (2 right, 1 left), post wash: 17mil, 94% motility and 89% rapid motility. BFN.

    June 3, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 5w.
    Sep 1, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 8w.

    Our rainbow baby girl arrived on Mon Aug 28, 2017 - "After every storm comes a rainbow". We are so thankful and grateful for every moment.

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    Well, I haven't had a real PPAF yet, so it's not really CD 8. I just started charting on the 9th so it counted that as cd1. I did have an episode of fairly heavy spotting Sept. 3 - 6, so if I count that as the start of my cycle, then what FF is counting as CD 8 is really CD 44. Those three days of spotting from Oct. 9 to 11 were very minimal - like one spot a day.

    Also, I realized that there are some questionable temps. Monday's temp was 97.45 when I woke up at 5:45, but then it was 97.67 when I woke up at 6:45. I originally recorded the second temp, but I think the first is probably more valid. And then Wednesday's temp was taken after BD, so I think that invalidates it. If I discard it, then FF takes away my O day. But Thurs and Fri temps are still high.

    ETA: How do I change my chart from Advanced to FAM? I can't figure it out.
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    Hmm....wow, that's a long time to wait for your first PPAF!

    Anyways, with all of that going on I really wouldn't read too much into the temps. I think your best bet is to take the temp upon first waking, as long as you've slept 3 hours in a row.....it would be nice if it were within a half hour of the same time everyday for the most part though, or it gets too erratic to tell anything. If you waken early and it's more than half an hour from your usual time I would kind of catnap/snooze until you're within 1/2 an hour. FF doesn't like it when you're all over the place with the time.

    Two, I really wouldn't say it's CD44 since it doesn't really sound like your bleeds are 'real' AF yet. It can take 3-6 months for everything to regulate coming off the pill, unfortunately! So it really doesn't mean your cycles are anovulatory or irregular, it just means your system isn't back 'online' yet.

    To change to FAM, you need to go to the menu bar, it's under "Chart Settings" --> "Detector Tuning" and you can select Fertility Awareness.

    IMO though I think you shouldn't read too much into your temps or cycle yet, but I would bd everyday you have an open cervix and/or EWCM so you don't miss a potential window, but be patient because it might very well take your body a few run-up tries to actually pop that egg.
    Me (38) and DH (38)

    SAHM military momma to DS1 (2004), DS2 (who's all boy but loves to dance, though not in a tutu!) (2006), DS3 (2009), and our rainbow baby girl DD1 (2017)

    early m/c Jan 2013

    Cycle #1 @ HRC (Oct 2014) - 6 retrieved, 4 mature, 3 fertilized and biopsied. 1XX and 1XY abnormal. 1XX no DNA found, rebiopsied and found normal, frozen.
    FET attempt #1 (Nov 2014) - cancelled due to functional cyst. FET attempt #2 (Jan 30, 2015) - NT. Remaining embie failed to thaw.

    May 2015 - started infertility treatments at OFC. Femara 2.5mg
    July 2015 - BFP after second round of Femara. Aug 4 2015 - 6w4d
    Dec 21 2015 - mmc 7w1d

    Apr 2016 - IVF Cycle #2. Converted to IUI because of uneven response and leading follicles.
    Apr 19, 2016 - IUI with 3 mature follicles (2 right, 1 left), post wash: 17mil, 94% motility and 89% rapid motility. BFN.

    June 3, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 5w.
    Sep 1, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 8w.

    Our rainbow baby girl arrived on Mon Aug 28, 2017 - "After every storm comes a rainbow". We are so thankful and grateful for every moment.

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    Oh, and you should be taking your temp before doing ANYTHING - I try not to even roll over! So definitely your temp AFTER a bd session is invalid, lol!!
    Me (38) and DH (38)

    SAHM military momma to DS1 (2004), DS2 (who's all boy but loves to dance, though not in a tutu!) (2006), DS3 (2009), and our rainbow baby girl DD1 (2017)

    early m/c Jan 2013

    Cycle #1 @ HRC (Oct 2014) - 6 retrieved, 4 mature, 3 fertilized and biopsied. 1XX and 1XY abnormal. 1XX no DNA found, rebiopsied and found normal, frozen.
    FET attempt #1 (Nov 2014) - cancelled due to functional cyst. FET attempt #2 (Jan 30, 2015) - NT. Remaining embie failed to thaw.

    May 2015 - started infertility treatments at OFC. Femara 2.5mg
    July 2015 - BFP after second round of Femara. Aug 4 2015 - 6w4d
    Dec 21 2015 - mmc 7w1d

    Apr 2016 - IVF Cycle #2. Converted to IUI because of uneven response and leading follicles.
    Apr 19, 2016 - IUI with 3 mature follicles (2 right, 1 left), post wash: 17mil, 94% motility and 89% rapid motility. BFN.

    June 3, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 5w.
    Sep 1, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 8w.

    Our rainbow baby girl arrived on Mon Aug 28, 2017 - "After every storm comes a rainbow". We are so thankful and grateful for every moment.

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    Is this your first month charting? It does take a couple to get into the swing of it properly. You may have missed the LH surge, or you have not Od yet.

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