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February 21st, 2018, 10:06 AM #11
I'm sorry, what I'm writing has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. But what you're saying is so interesting to read! The last two months we had our attempt late in the evening and the next morning my opk turned positive. This is a really strange time for me, normally it gets positive in the afternoon. And I would have expected the positive opk one day later in both cases. So I was wondering exactly this, if semen can trigger ovulation.
08/2014 04/2016
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February 21st, 2018, 09:04 PM #12
Yes it's a fascinating (and probably understudied) topic. Here are a few articles I found incase you are interested!
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...waway-in-semen
Semen Triggers Ovulation, New Study Suggests
https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-08-...les-study-says
And some studies, but these are a little harder to read...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3443178/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23141951
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27762054
I don't know for sure, but that could definitely be what's happening in your case. It seems like SO many women who track their cycles religiously and plan cut-offs complain of early ovulation after BD - it must be more than a coincidence!Last edited by Jodles1987; February 21st, 2018 at 09:07 PM.
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February 23rd, 2018, 03:07 AM #13
Thank you so much for all that literature! Really interesting topic. I thought about it a little more and this might also have happened when we conceived DS2. I was hoping for a cut off (typical swaying newbie Shettles fault ), but my ovulation came two days earlier than all the months before.
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April 7th, 2018, 01:12 PM #14Dream Vet
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I just stumbled across this, but this observation has been documented medically and I was told that's why sex is off limits during IVF even with cetrotide (a drug that drops ovulation from occurring) -- sex can potentially trigger ovulation.
Anecdotally, in Novembermy DH was going out of town for 2 weeks and I was due to ovulate (which I had documented for eons) when he was gone. We trying to prevent that month since we had had so many losses and had our third IVF consult set up. Lo and behold, perhaps all the unproected seemingly safe sex, but I ovulated early and got pregnant.
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April 8th, 2018, 10:12 AM #15Swaying Advice Coach
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July 18th, 2018, 08:08 PM #16Swaying Advice Coach
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I'm sorry I missed this somehow. No one knows if X sperm capacitate later than Y. This claim is probably based on the "X sperm live longer" idea which has been debunked What are the REAL differences between X sperm and Y sperm?? so now some people are switching over to claiming X sperm capacitate after Y but there is no way for them to know that.
I have no issue with anyone making money off of swaying. (Reminder, I make money off of swaying! ) I know my name is mud on some sites for profiting off swaying and I would never turn around and do that to another person. My point in mentioning that is that whenever a study (like the McSweeney study) is done by persons/entities who are profiting from the outcome then it's simply not as valuable as something like the Oxford study where the people aren't profiting from the outcome, that's all.
I do have some issues with people stealing stuff that discovered, for the sole reason that I spend 6-8 hours a day for the last 8 years answering tons of questions and didn't have time to write a book, LOL. But honestly, that's a minor annoyance - if I really cared I'd have done whatever it took to write my own book because I knew all along people were lifting the approach we have. No biggie, that's life in the big city. The main issue I have with Babydust Method is that people are going many months to years not getting pregnant doing the Babydust approach. And if as Jodles is saying is true, and she's actually manipulating the results to look more effective AND encouraging people to keep going month after month with BFN after BFN...well, that really seems borderline unethical to me. Making promises of fake success rates that end up causing women to expend years of their fertile window chasing a sway method that makes it next to impossible to conceive is just not the way I roll. That means that some women will end up literally with no baby because of misleading info and since some of my good friends back on IG did exactly that...swayed strictly for years, wasted the last of their fertile years on swaying but never got pregnant, ended up paying out tons of cash to fertility clinics, only to end up with no money and no baby because they wasted so much time swaying - it rubs me the wrong way.!!! Questions?? Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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January 5th, 2020, 04:01 AM #18
Sorry to bump this thread but what a fantastic read......I actuallycame across baby dust on facebook and I have to say I couldnt belive how many times a day women were using opks......I know I'm a worrier and have only just got my head around the fact that timing doesnt sway but this facebook group makes it seem like you have completely messed up ypur sway if you bd anywhere near ovulation, as I was scrolling down baby dust group I noticed so many "imperfect girl sway" succeed and lots of "perfect girl sway" fail which was very interesting......thank you atomic for explaining all of this
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