How do you sway pink without impeding your chances of conceiving?

[ElizaB]

I just discovered this site yesterday and have been pouring over for it for the last 24 hours! It is awesome. I never realized that there were so many "sway" methods.

Unfortunately, I noticed that one re-occuring theme seems to be that most things that sway girl also hurt your overall chances of conceiving. By way of example, a cut off of 3 or more days or taking various steps to make your CM more hostile, etc.

Therefore, my question is this: What can you do to sway for a girl without seriously impairing your overall chances of conceiving?

Specifically, I would like to know about methods that involve some sort of science and not folklore like "I'm going to BD when the Chinese lunar calendar says I will have a girl."

The one thing I have read that seems like it would not seriously impede fertility would be to BD every day 7-10 days before O and do a 24-36 hour cut off. I have a fertility monitor and do OPK's so I can generally figure out when O is coming pretty well. While this probably isn't an extremely strong sway, it seems like it would be better than nothing and probably wouldn't hurt my chances too much since I would still get in a couple of days of BD during my fertile window.

I am also not opposed to the low protein/skip meals/calorie deprivation/work out 7 days a week thing as that is sort of my natural inclination anyway. I have actually gained weight TTC because I had been forcing myself to eat a more balanced diet and more protein when my natural preference is to eat grains and vegis. I'm a healthy weight so I can't imagine this would seriously impeed fertility...or can it?

I am not extremely keen on douches as I have a tendency toward yeast infections and, again, I am a little scared of doing anything that would make the environment too hostile. I'm also a little hestitant about taking anything that will dry up my CM (like benadryl) because I have concerns that it will impede my chances of conceiving a baby at all.

Another thought I had was to have DH sit in our hot tub before we BD during our fertile period. This idea occurred to me after reading the article that stated that men in certain professions (like deep sea divers) were more likely to conceive girls. I thought the heat might kill off the less hardy male sperm. DH did not think this would work as he said sperm are inside him for 90 days and he can't sit in our hot tub for 90 days straight. He didn't seem to think one or two dips in the hot tub pre-BD would make any difference. Alternatively, I also have the concern that since our "hot tub" isn't exactly a science lab that our experiment might succeed too well and lower his sperm to the point that we don't conceive at all!

At any rate, I would love some input on other ideas! I would love input on the ideas I have had already! I am 31 and DH is 36. This is our first time TTC. We have no known fertility problems or familial history of problems, but we also aren't in our early 20's either and I really don't want to be TTC for the next two years. In other words, I want a baby girl, but I want a baby of either sex even worse!!!

[Cinss]

When i first started looking into swaying i thought timing was the most important factor because i read all about the shettles method. Now 6 months later i have changed my mind about that and would even go as far as saying timing is the least important. On here you will read all about women concierving boys and girls using the same timing methods. In fact a girlfriend of mine fell pregnant to a 1 night stand and had a girl then later on was dtd every second day and concieved a boy. I personally dtd every second day and concieved a girl, so really i think it is other factors that come into play when conception happens as to which sex the baby is. Timing is however a big factor when it comes to just falling pregnant, if you miss the egg you don't fall pregnant, if there is not enough sperm running the race your chances of falling pregnant are lowered. So i believe that you want to dtd enough to raise your chances of falling pregnant and do other things to try to sway the odds of getting a boy or a girl. I guess i personally am putting all my faith in the diet, supps and a little bit of ions, i don't think that any of these things will affect the possibility of falling pregnant. My advice to you would be definatly skip breakfast every day and only eat when you are really hungry.

[amari]

I agree with Cinss, if I were you and you don't want to do too strong of a sway, just try and eat a little less. Eat when you are really, really hungry and maybe do some of the supplements that would lower your ph if you feel comfortable with that?

[rainbowflower]

I agree, I'd say timing is probably the least important factor too. If you DTD on OV day you have a 30% chance of conceiving each cycle if you're not lowering your fertility in other ways, this is just 10% 3 days before OV (with the same assumption).

Unfortunately things that lower fertility do tend to sway pink so by nature swaying pink will mean it impedes your chances. You could do less of the things that reduce fertility (don't do cut off or O+12, don't take antihistamines/dry up CM, don't abstain, don't douche) and try and get more attempts in during your fertile window and BD just before/during OV.

[atomic sagebrush]

My answer to the original question - don't sway and just TTC naturally. Luck might be on your side (sounds like you're doing some things that are girl friendly to begin with) and you don't raise the risk of your testosterone increasing (which swaying does for some people) and you'll prob. get pg quicker. Please note, that is not a dismissive answer, I really do think that doing nothing is a valid way for some people to get their DG. Swaying, for boy moms in particular, can be like throwing gasoline on a fire...I've seen several people with failed sway(s) go onto conceive baby girls by accident even after 4-5-6 of the same gender already. Check out "the Advanced Do-Nothing Sway" in this essay. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...ule-of-swaying

1) RE Frequent BD 7-10 days before O, believe it or not, some men actually find their sperm numbers depleted too far by this technique so even with Frequent BD, it can affect fertility negatively, esp when coupled with a cutoff. I DO think it's your best bet for getting pg quickly while swaying, but if you try it for a month or two and don't get pg, you might want to BD till you get a pos OPK and THEN stop. I don't believe cutoffs sway anyway and so I ~personally~ believe it's best to "spend" your "things that might reduce fertility somewhat factors" on things that ACTUALLY sway rather than timing, which has been debunked within an inch of its life. Here's another essay you might find helpful. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...-pink-and-blue

2)A LOT of us who have boys have done exactly as you describe, we plan to get pg and start eating a lot more and more healthfully, begin prenatals, etc, which is basically a blue sway. I was gaining weight with two of mine because I was TTC and eating very healthfully with the third, also because of TTC. My first son I was just gaining weight for fun LOL. So the diet and intense exercise may be a good idea.

3)I don't like douches either, no worries, this is a douche-free zone. I can tell people how to if they want but I think for most people, RepHresh http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...s-and-RepHresh + antihistamine works just as well (and you don't even need to do that much if you don't care to.). Just so you know, diet/exercise itself does much the same thing as the antihistamine does - makes CM more acidic, less in quantity, and dryer, which can def. make it more difficult to conceive. There's no getting around that aspect of swaying, because that's prob. what is DOING the swaying. Would you be willing to set a time limit of say, two months to TRY the antihistamine? A lot of people find it doesn't dry them up "enough" (they are concerned because they still have some EWCM, but of course you need SOME EWCM to conceive.) You may find that the antihistamine does not eliminate all your EWCM and it might put yoru mind at ease about using it.

4)DH in the hot tub is a good idea, but I do want to let you know that it's NOT that the "less hardy male sperm" are being killed off. X and Y sperm have been proven to be equally hardy and live about the same length of time (which is another reason that swaying via a cutoff is a bad idea). http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...rm-and-Y-sperm For reasons we don't understand, lowering sperm numbers OVERALL are what matter - even in the deep sea divers, figher pilots, etc, they are still making BOTH X and Y sperm in equal numbers, just less of them. Somehow, this sways pink even though we don't know how or why (yet!)

5)Your husband is correct, sperm take about 72 days to form but he is incorrect about the hot tub. Heat kills off sperm in various stages of development, including the ones that are about to be released. So if he sits in the hot tub even just once before you BD, he'll kill off some sperm, which seems to make you more likely to conceive a girl (see #4) Yes, this CAN impede fertility for some people, and the hot tub/frequent BD/cutoff combo, is going to make it a LOT more difficult. I'd much rather see you drop the cutoff which doesn't even sway, in favor of the hot tub, which does.

6)I promise you will not have to TTC for two years (unless you have other issues going on.) EVerything we do for swaying is 100% reversible, so if you give yourself a time limit of 1-2 months to try some swaying tactics, and then start eliminating things one or two at a time, you will be able to find the balance between swaying and conceiving.

[ElizaB]

Thank you so much atomic sagebrush, cinss, and amari! I really appreciate the input!!!

I think I am going to drop the cut off, but stick with my calorie cutting/work out plan. I'm also taking calcium and magnesium supplements and am going to make DH do the same. I am also going to try the Benadryl for a couple of months. If I don't get a BFP in that time then I will probably drop the Benadryl. And DH and I like sitting in our hot tub anyway (especially in the winter) so I think we will probably try that, too. We are also going to try to do the 7-10 day in a row BD. Again, if we don't get a BFP, we may drop that. Honestly, I sort of suspect we may not be able to keep that up for too long anyway - lol!

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck!