Sorry - me again ha ha! Planning my next month and thinking of changing things a bit

[chocolate]

Hiya, so about 4dpo and dtd 2 to 3 days before Ovulation and used alot of replens a few hours before dtd and was very shallow, so much so that most of it was in my underwear after jumping and dumping. Anyway, Im hoping Im not pregnant as that cycle I didnt give 100% so feel its not a good enough sway. This has me analysing my plan and has made me think the following:

Im considering waiting till March now but doing the LE diet in the meantime, and then the IG diet for the remaining 6 weeks, although if I wait till March I would ideally fall pregnant quickly so if I think this wont happen then I may just try for 0+12 in the meantime which I dont think would be successful for us at all as I looked for signs this time and wouldnt have worked well at all. But - Im liking the results of 0+12 and my PH normally does rise before Ovulation so think this is worth a shot through January/February but after a good abstinance and shallow. Then from March maybe dtd just before ovulation but drop the replens or at least use a minimum amount as I agree diet is most important so I would have given that my 100% so its worth increases the chances of pregnancy because I gave it my best, so would probably lay still for a few mins after dtd before jump and dumping. The reason for waiting is because although I want a 3rd, realistically the bigger age gap the better right now, and I still have the season thing in my head, I will also have a few days of food cheating around Christmas so want to do a good diet after then incase those days effect it.

Im also wondering what else I can try to lower PH inside out as around Ovulation it peeked to a 7 even with replens, wondering if a little Cranberry would help although do understand that would add nutrients to the sway ..........I drank tons of diet coke and barely ate anything other than pasta really so not sure why it didnt drop.

Also want to do as much as I can to lower testosterone, took s.palmetto but feel maybe I should do a bit more next time as I have PCOS and want to get this down to a minimum so it doesnt go against my sway. And maybe waiting for a couple of cycles for the diet effect and supps to kick in may help my sway.

The other factor is Im due to see fertility specialist end of Feb as I suspected a lp defect and saw them before for PCOS, but Im going to try to push that appointment back a couple of months if lp is ok as I dont want to see them whilst swaying as I think other people should have that appointment instead of me whilst Im actually reducing my chances of conceiving on purpose.


Sorry to ramble, needed to write my thoughts down.

[rainbowflower]

if you plan to NTNP for a few months I think that sounds like a good option and O+12 will still give you a small shot of pregnancy each month. Would you still be driving yourself mad during the 2ww each cycle? I think I would be!

may I ask why you'd switch from LE to IG around attempt time?

if you're really worried about pH I'd perhaps drop the Replens and just stick to RepHresh - at least that way you know it will always be lowered back down to 4.5 even if your body is producing high pH CM.

[chocolate]

if you plan to NTNP for a few months I think that sounds like a good option and O+12 will still give you a small shot of pregnancy each month. Would you still be driving yourself mad during the 2ww each cycle? I think I would be!

may I ask why you'd switch from LE to IG around attempt time?

if you're really worried about pH I'd perhaps drop the Replens and just stick to RepHresh - at least that way you know it will always be lowered back down to 4.5 even if your body is producing high pH CM.

Hiya, yes I think I would drive myself mad lol!! I think also if ovulation fell on a new moon I would dtd close to ovulation too not at 0+12 and hope that the diet for a few weeks was good enough.

About the diets - I just think that LE is easier to stick too so better than quiting dieting, but, Im more familiar with IG diet and have seen more results with that as people havent been doing LE that long and posted any results....... also would not feel comfortable eating bananas or potatoes etc. as that is ingrained in my head lol.

Good tip about the rephresh now I know the relens doesnt help much, thanks

[rainbowflower]

you don't HAVE to eat potatoes/bananas on the LE diet - I don't

[chocolate]

Thats a good point lol! I went to go back onto IG and couldnt get on, then read the thread about what diet to do and that has steered me to the LE diet.
I think I will spend the next cycle doing the LE diet and planning it, then I should know what Im doing by the Feb. cycle so can drop the research etc. and then by March I should be properly ready. However think in the meantime I will still ttc but only if in a new moon as that is why Im thinking of waiting till March too so at least with a new moon that would equal it out..... ideally I would just wait to March but really dont think I can do that,aaargh!

[n710]

I am having my 3rd girl after 1 boy and I can def. tell diet must make a difference. Before getting pregnant with my son I worked full time, so ate cereal and yogurt or a banana every morning and had a sandwich and fruit every day for lunch and pasta or something like that for dinner.

Then I started staying home and not working and since then I rarely eat breakfast. After 5 hours I'll have an apple and a brownie or something like that. Then I would eat a healthy lunch (salad and bagel or chips) But then dinner would usually just be ice cream with peanut butter.
Anyway, I definitely weighed less getting pregnant with each of my daughters and I know skipping breakfast messed up my blood sugar. So, I think the weight loss and time in between meals really must change your ph.
GL-I def. would have a hard time waiting until March
BTW, just got pregnant with my last daughter in June. My other daughters were conceived in January and April and my son was in September

[chocolate]

I am having my 3rd girl after 1 boy and I can def. tell diet must make a difference. Before getting pregnant with my son I worked full time, so ate cereal and yogurt or a banana every morning and had a sandwich and fruit every day for lunch and pasta or something like that for dinner.

Then I started staying home and not working and since then I rarely eat breakfast. After 5 hours I'll have an apple and a brownie or something like that. Then I would eat a healthy lunch (salad and bagel or chips) But then dinner would usually just be ice cream with peanut butter.
Anyway, I definitely weighed less getting pregnant with each of my daughters and I know skipping breakfast messed up my blood sugar. So, I think the weight loss and time in between meals really must change your ph.
GL-I def. would have a hard time waiting until March
BTW, just got pregnant with my last daughter in June. My other daughters were conceived in January and April and my son was in September

Hiya, yes I think diet is def. the key to having a girl,by far - just still have this season thing in my head,but I think sometimes more girls are concieved over summer because the mums are generally dieting to look their best over summer.

I think if it gets to ovulation and my diet has been at its best and ph is in a good range etc. then we will go for it as I dont think I could waste a cycle, although ideally we would wait till Summer but that just wont happen.

[atomic sagebrush]

1)Do you have enough weight to spare?? That long on diet will make you waste away to nothing if you're thin already.

2)If you're going to treat O+12 like a birth control, BEWARE because all you have to do is release 2 eggs and then whammo preggers (and spot on O, may I add.) I suspect that a lot of people who got pg trying O+12 actually released two eggs and hit the second.

3)Why replens over RepHresh?? RepHresh is better because it chemically reacts with EWCM and semen to bring their pH to 4.5-5. Whereas Replens is low in pH but doesn't chemicaly react with anything, so it gets diluted by EWCM and semen and your pH goes up.

4)Laying still even just for a few minutes after intercourse is the same as propping your hips afterwards. Most sperm has left your vagina within 5 minutes after DTD and the idea that you need to prop hips and wait for 45 min after BD is outdated info. You can leap up immediately after DTD, do 50 jumping jacks, and run the Boston Marathon and still get pg. If you want to do a jump and dump, you need to get up immediately afterwards and do it, not wait around because you gain nothing.

My thinking on J and D is that if you're doing a long cutoff 3 days or longer, you should lie down for 5 min afterwards (because most of the sperm will have capacitated and died by the time O rolls around anyway.) But if you're DTD on O or O+1 you should do a J and D. O-2 and O-1 are up to you depending on how many otehr things you're doing to sway.

5)Statistically best shot at pink is Mar/April/May so I think waiting is good if it works best for your family anyway.

6)WEre you doing baby aspirin and did you lose any weight? These things can help lower pH wihtout adding nutrients. If you want to try cran that's fine, people have had success with it, I just want to maximize odds and I think baby aspirin/aspartame/weight loss are better ways to do that than the cran is. Note - I conceived my last son with pH of 4.5 checked 2 and 3 times a day, so pH is not the end all be all anyway.

7)Be careful with pasta and you might want to read my Pasta thread in the DM section for a long discussion of why it's not the best choice for pink.

8)you can take SP for a full month/6 weeks in advance of your 1st attempt as long as you make sure not to conceive during that time. So you could start the SP in Feb., take it for your entire Feb cycle, take it AF-O March, and then stop taking it either on O day or a day before and have your first attempt and thereafter take it AF-O only.

Losing weight if you have some to lose, will also help lower your testosterone particularly if you have PCOS.

9)I totally understand what you're saying about the fertility specialist and I have always felt that way too But with PCOS, you are just as entitled to be there as anyone. Clomid is only going to help your sway if you can get some and it will also correct your LP. Plus if you need to have some Metformin that will also sway pink.

[atomic sagebrush]

Regardless of whether you eat bananas or potatoes, you NEED to get 2500-3500 mg potassium per day for your health (and this is also true on IG and FGD). This is not up for negotiation because you can DIE from getting too little potassium, it is a requirement for your survival. I really hate to see people scared to eat bananas and potatoes because they're easy and low cal ways to get a lot of potassium for not a lot of protein. I think protein and fat and calories sway a bazillion times harder than potassium EVER could because potassium is in a lot of foods (including massive amounts in dairy) and there is slim-to-no chance that all the baby girls conceived on the planet were to moms not eating a lot of potassium. In fact the whole "vegetarians have more girls" study disproves potassium swaying because most vegetarians have ample potassium intake.

There are no magic foods - it's the overall nutrient content of your diet that sways. If bananas really truly swayed blue in any kind of way, firstly there would be no failed blue sways, and secondly the human race would have died out the first time they camped out near a banana tree.

[chocolate]

Thanks for all your info Atomic - again lol!

1)
Banana's I just dont like the texture of, but I do like potatoes and would include these to get the potassium - my friend eats potatoes every day and when out normally opts for a baked potato and has 2 girls so Im not convinced that potassium that important. If I could just eat a baked potato with cheese or beans every day Id be happy!

2) 0+12 - basically I think this timing is great for getting a girl as cm should be going creamy and PH down - but I think if actively ttc we would probably miss this, so am just thinking if I suddenly see this next cycle and can bd at that point to give it a go, especially if I have been doing the other sway factors well

3) No idea why I choose replens! Maybe that was because I could just easily get hold of it in the Uk

4)Jump and dump - we did this this cycle but because OH left the sperm just inside the entrance, most of it was in my underwear - now I wonder if thats basically wasting a month because it seems there was hardly any chance of getting pregnant, I know its good to lower the sperm count, but think falling pregnant within the first few ttc is really important for us as I dont have a lot of weight to loose and will cave on the diet

5) Can see the sense but I am so crap at waiting for things! But will see how I feel, if I can convince myself to completely not try till April then I will and will be more confident I gave swaying my best shot

6) I did the asprin and did loose weight, just feel like if I achieve a lower PH I will feel Ive done my best

7)Ohh, didnt see that about pasta, will go have a look!

8) Thanks for info on SP was wondering that, havent taken it after O and feel quite stressy and am sure the coarse hair on my chin has grown back much quicker. Will think about this and atleast it will stop me ttc that month. Can I drink pepPermint tea in the 2ww?

PCOS - I probably only have about a maximum of 7 more pounds to loose before I would be hitting the 17/18 bmi I guess, seem to be a think PCOS girl but still with wonky hormones.

9) Yeah I just dont want to do the clomid unless I have too to sort out the luteal mainly because I dont have time for all the appointments and also because I will feel like we cant do abstinence and a one off bd and gels etc. as Id be aware I could be wasting a clomid cycle.


Think I messed up the numbers and left out how much I have to loose with regard to doing the diet for that long - Im still undecided on what Im going to eat, neither diets seem to fit with what I can eat happily and what appears to work, being UK based means its a bit different to get the same things too. Im definatly cutting out meat but just cant seem to get a diet plan together that would work for me, will look into it.