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    You're not being a bother, it's just that it's not something that has a "study" because it is simply describing something, KWIM??

    I'm not sure that the size difference is that big, not like a great dane vs. a chihuahua or anything, it's that it was enough for Dr. Shettles to notice it through the microscope using whatever method he was using, and that was the entire basis for his theory.

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    You're not being a bother, it's just that it's not something that has a "study" because it is simply describing something, KWIM??

    I'm not sure that the size difference is that big, not like a great dane vs. a chihuahua or anything, it's that it was enough for Dr. Shettles to notice it through the microscope using whatever method he was using, and that was the entire basis for his theory.

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    You're not being a bother, it's just that it's not something that has a "study" because it is simply describing something, KWIM??

    I'm not sure that the size difference is that big, not like a great dane vs. a chihuahua or anything, it's that it was enough for Dr. Shettles to notice it through the microscope using whatever method he was using, and that was the entire basis for his theory.

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    found the study - sorry not full text and not terribly helpful but you can plainly see, that if they are coming up with 10 different size parameters for sperm, none of which are gender related, that whatever Dr. Shettles was seeing was NOT gender of sperm but something else entirely.

    Quantification and classification of human spe... [Fertil Steril. 1988] - PubMed - NCBI
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    found the study - sorry not full text and not terribly helpful but you can plainly see, that if they are coming up with 10 different size parameters for sperm, none of which are gender related, that whatever Dr. Shettles was seeing was NOT gender of sperm but something else entirely.

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    another good writeup with picture

    Here is another analysis from IG with a fab picture where you can really see the size difference (thanks Maureen - seriously this time )

    New research shows that X and Y sperm have the same shape and size - Gender Selection News

    Dr. Shettles also describes how he looked thru the microscope and saw that "X and Y sperm were different sizes" in his book, in very great detail. We now know this to be impossible (unless Dr. Shettles maybe had some sort of superhuman sperm seeing abilities of which we are unaware) so if not capacitated and uncapacitated sperm, then what was he even seeing?
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    Ah that is a fabulous pic, thanks AS! That's what I wasn't able to find LOL chihuahua and great dane I figured it wouldn't be too huge of a difference seeing as the little guys aren't that big to begin with, but it was frustrating me that I could find NO pics or anything... I just found pictures of swimmers with straight tails and swimmers with zigzag tails (purported to be the hyper, capicatated boys!)

    It's very interesting to see the difference in them, and the Oxford pic that shows all three stages they go through on the way to fertilization attempts.
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    Thanks for asking because it improves the quality of info for everyone!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Brat did you read this yet? This is how I came to be here and how and why I think differently than the IG gals do. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...sh-anyway.html Most people don't realize I didn't sway with my first 3 boys, only my last one, so it's not like I have this big string of tiny blue failures - my oldest son is 20 years old and the Internet wasn't even INVENTED when he was born!!!

    Honestly, you're right because I was not being censored exactly but I was censoring myself over there. I would have had to launch into World War Three every day to fully express my thinking on things and I didn't have the time or energy (online debating is pretty upsetting!!) Plus, Tamara is my friend and the more "trouble" I stirred up, it was like I was just making tons of problems for her to have to deal with, you know??

    Plus, when I was on IG I hadn't even done a quarter of all the research that I have since then so I really didn't have everything as fully fleshed out as it is now. I knew stuff about the IG sway didn't add up, but I didn't have all the evidence about it that I do now.
    I just read this..well I wish you spoke what was on your mind back on IG lol maybe I would got my boy then :-( oh well :-)
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    Flava, I did but got buried usually.
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