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    19wk scan today they think its a boy but not with strong certainty. I will be getting a 32wk scan. Boy #3 for me.

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    OH, gosh Kiwi I'm so sorry it didn't go how we were hoping. How unsure were they??
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    We went for an elective one today as I couldnt deal with the uncertainty and needed to see with my own eyes and he's all boy!
    Will be honest, have shed a lot of tears but will be able to move forward and love him now. Unsure whether we will go for #4 later or 3 will be enough for me.

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    There is something very very special about our opposites. I know it's so hard though - especially at first.
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    Thanks Atomic. I had really hoped DS2 was a girl and he is so devine and brings so much joy. This next one will be 18mths younger so hopefully they will be great buds.

    Its hard not to analyze what didn't work but I did struggle with the diet as I eat quite alot (normal weight PCOS) and to reduce the fat & protein in my diet as my blood sugar can be so unstable and I find my mood plummets with not much protein.

    I didn't take a prenatal but I was still on low doses of zinc and cal/mag for my mental health through a practitioner. I had demonstrated zinc deficiency. I had been off omega 3 for 6mths when we conceived though.

    Re our timing, we were doing E4D as with my mc cycle I never got a + OPK. My darkest OPK with this cycle was CD13. We BD days 6, 9 and 13. When they dated me at 13wks it put ovulation at CD12. It is haunting me a bit we ended up with 2 attempts in the window as DS2 was concieved a long way from ovulation. I think next time I would be more patient and use a barrier method until + OPK once i got better at using them.

    Hubby wants a 4th regardless, I think I will let him have his way. If we sway again I will pay for a personalised plan but how is the pill rating in your stats? If I went on that for few months after breastfeeding, the one for PCOS reduces androgens as well, would that help sway?

    We live in New Zealand so high tech is a pretty remote option for us.

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    I wouldn't go too nuts analyzing what went wrong...I understand the tendency but for all we know you had an ideal sway and just fell into the group of opposites that seems to exist no matter how much we try to break through that upper ceiling.

    The pill does seem to help and it's certainly worth a go - I don't feel we have a good body of data to prove this, but biologically the pill should sway pink.

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    I wasn't counting grams, I was worried I would get too obsessive & anxious about my intake. I made changes to my diet which is usually high fat high protein due to blood sugar lows and also needing to be gluten free.
    I changed things like instead of a paleo nut and seed muesli on my fruit & yogurt breakfast, had a gluten free grain based muesli.
    Went for honey or jam instead of peanut butter etc.
    We usually eat meat daily (seems common in NZ), sometimes leftovers or tuna for lunch as well so I tried to keep lunch vegetarian, reduce meat serving size at dinner and have vegetarian dinners twice a week, no bacon.
    I cut way back on butter and dairy (which I love).
    I wasn't underweight but I do seem to have a fast metabolism if I compare what I eat with my friends.

    I think if I had a meal plan to follow that would be easier on my mind than counting grams.

    I was on metformin 500mg 3x a day with this baby and my 2nd. It had no effect on my weight but certainly shortened my cycles to within the realm of normal. My first was conceived cycle day 42, my second day 19 and this one 13 or 14 but yes all boys!
    Also quite a coffee drinker and plenty of alcohol with DS1 & DS2

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    I know it's annoying but it's particularly important with PCOS to count the grams of fat and protein. Because by getting a certain amount of fat and protein, and then a specific amount of calories, we ensure you don't go overboard eating carbs. An excess of carbs for PCOSers can possibly sway blue so that is one thing we may want to focus on. Anyone with PCOS will be best off skipping things that have sugars in them like honey and jam. But the metformin does help a lot with that and if any way to use the Met in the future I'd definitely do that
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    I should be allowed met again due to my age and time to conception.

    Toast was a hard one as my gf bread is the highest fibre grain food I have but anything I put on it was hfhp or high sugar.

    I had an eating disorder when I was young into my 20s so counting grams just feels like a total no-no for me and I had thought the obsess factor of it would sway blue for me and hopefully the met would outweigh the diet issue.

    If I sway again, perhaps I will just be too busy chasing 3 boys to get obsessive about my diet and just count sensibly.

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    Yes that definitely adds a wrinkle - we would likely just have you do the PCOS diet I made that requires no counting of the grams if you decide to sway again.
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