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    Great thanks! I think Iíll find that easier than skipping breakfast. Yay that the walking is included, that will help as it can be hard to find the time to exercise with my two boys! Now to persuade hubby to do some cycling nearer the time, I have a year to convince him lol! Obviously itís quite far away, but is there anything else I can do now that would help, other than eat mostly veggie / vegan? Maybe stop snacking so much? Iím bad at grazing and not eating a proper lunch during the day, apart from dinner when I will eat a proper meal...

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    I would hold off on making most of the changes for now. Just eat less meat overall. Don't worry about snacks and stuff till 12 weeks ahead.
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    Ok 👍 thanks! x

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    Hello again!

    Hi there!

    I’m back with a few more questions about swaying for a girl later on this year, or early next year!

    So last time we spoke my cycle hadn't returned so you advised I eat 65g of fat and protein until it returns. It returned around 5 months ago and I’ve been eating a dairy free and pescatarian diet for a while now (mainly for other reasons rather than swaying).

    I’m getting a bit nearer to when we will try for a third child now and was wondering a few things! Hoping you can help

    1) At the mo I eat fish about once a day, do I need do reduce this even if I am within the LE protein limits? You advised previously to do an alt le diet as I have polycystic ovaries (but not the syndrome).

    2) What limits would you advise now my cycle is back but I’m still breastfeeding around 4 times a day?

    2) I have put my food into fitness pal for a few days to see what my diet is like and I¬ím normally under 50g/60g protein a day but my fat is often higher, like 80 - 90 odd! 😂 I would be interested to know whether you think the protein or fat is more important, or both! Will be reducing the fat down nearer the time but curious to know.

    Although I’m not trying to conceive right now my cycle is back and in the past I’ve got pregnant easily, so I would say there’s a chance I could get pregnant by mistake, as we are not super careful, hence why I’m keen to make a few subtle life style changes now.

    Thanks!
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    1)you should always limit fish to 2x a week when trying to conceive due to the potential risks of mercury in fish. No one should be eating fish every day when trying to conceive.

    2)I would suggest 1800-2000 cals a day, 50-60 g protein and fat. if you lose weight too quick and your milk supply wanes you can go up to 2000-2200 cals and even up to 65 g pro and fat if you need to.

    Are you counting protein and fat in fruit and veg? If so, stop.

    Protein and fat are both important. I can't pick one vs. the other, they both matter in different ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    1)you should always limit fish to 2x a week when trying to conceive due to the potential risks of mercury in fish. No one should be eating fish every day when trying to conceive.

    2)I would suggest 1800-2000 cals a day, 50-60 g protein and fat. if you lose weight too quick and your milk supply wanes you can go up to 2000-2200 cals and even up to 65 g pro and fat if you need to.

    Are you counting protein and fat in fruit and veg? If so, stop.

    Protein and fat are both important. I can't pick one vs. the other, they both matter in different ways.
    Thanks for getting back to me!

    Re. Fish, does white fish count too in the 2 per week limit? I know we have to be more careful with oily fish and I definitely need to cut down on that if we try to conceive, but I didn’t realise the same applied for white fish. Maybe I’ll try and cut down on that now anyway!

    With the breastfeeding, my son is 2.5 now so it’s not the end of the world if my supply wanes a bit but plan to continue for now. I also wondered about soya. Me and my hubby both eat a fair bit. Hubby eats quite a lot these days which I’ve heard can be good for a girl away, but should I limit the amount of soya I’m eating?

    Sorry last question, if I need to up my calories but stay within the limits, are carby things ok to eat or will that not work with the alt le diet? I find it hard to think what to eat without going over the protein limit. I will make sure I don’t count carbs in veg though!

    Thanks!

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    Yes, it all counts. White fish can have bad stuff in it too. You are NEVER supposed to eat the high-in-mercury fish at all when TTC, and the low-in-mercury should be kept to 2 servings per week.

    Soy is great for your husband and a pink sway, have as much as he wants (though if you guys don't get pregnant, say, in 6 months, he should cut back). For you, I would keep it at 3x a week. Some people believe that soy may sway blue in excess when eaten by women, and it also may reduce your chances of conceiving if you eat too much of it.

    If you're on the alt LE Diet you need to get your carb calories primarily from fruit, higher carb veg, whole grains. You don't need to count carbs, just keep protein and fat to a set limit (not counting fruit and veg) and then cals at a certain level and pick the right carbs, and you will be getting the right amount of carbs.
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    k thanks 👍🏻 Iím based in the UK and the rules on white fish are slightly different here, but Iím going to cut down anyway as Iím likely eating too much.

    Re. protein in vegetables, do we count protein in a jacket potato and things like chips (obviously chips arenít a vegetable but as they are made of potato I wasnít sure &#128514.

    Alcohol - I assume we need to stay within the calorie limit even though it doesnít contain nutrients?

    Thanks!

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    Potatoes are free for fat and protein. Count only cals in potato.

    Yes, technically you should count alcohol in your cals for the day, but if you NEED the alcohol to keep weight on don't sweat it too much if you find you're going over by the amount of the alcohol
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    Hi! I’ve only posted on here a few times but was planning to sway for a girl at some point in the future (was trying to get my Husband onboard).

    I found out last month that I’m pregnant! We were in complete shock as it wasn’t planned. We are happy but I’m kicking myself that I didn’t get a chance to properly sway and feel like I’ve messed up my last chance at having a daughter. We will love this little surprise baby so much regardless of their sex, but I’m desperate for a girl.

    I’m 36, my husband has just turned 35. It was a complete opps, we used the pull out method, which we have used for years without getting pregnant, but this time hubby didn’t pull out quick enough - oops. We hadn’t bd in about 3 weeks or more. I’m still breastfeeding my 2.5 year old (it was between 4-5 times a day at the time). My cycle has been a bit irregular and I’d had breakthrough bleeding a couple of times. I’ve still been ovulating but sometimes a week or so late. About a week before I ovulated I had some breakthrough bleeding and what I thought were ovulation cramps. Ovulation must have come around two weeks later than normal. I was also trying new asthma meds which could have messed up my cycle. On the night of conception I was a bit unwell with a sore throat, which turned into a cold and cough.

    Sadly I didn’t get a chance to do the LE diet properly but I had made some changes and my diet is different to when I had my two boys. I am completely dairy free and don’t eat meat, but I do eat fish and seafood (changed about 2.5 years ago for a number of reasons). I drink 2 to 3 coffees in the morning but espresso with lots of hazelnut/rice milk, so like a latte, no sugar. I was having a coconut yogurt smoothie made with a banana and berries mid morning between 9.30am - 10.30am (normally get up around 7 or 8). Sometimes I’d have a crumpet or piece of toast with it. At the weekend I normally had eggs. My lunches and dinners were a mixture of fish / seafood and vegan meals which included soya based foods about three times a week. I was eating salmon about once a week :/. I was eating pretty well and not dieting. I often ate candy sweets in the evening! I normally ate some of my boys left over dinner with them in the evening so sometimes ate about 4 times a day but didn’t normally snack too much outside of that (I sometimes did). I had a couple of unhealthy days with takeaways and cake due to birthdays! I drank alcohol as and when I felt like it, mostly at the weekend.

    I tried to do the LE diet for a few weeks in January and I was normally on or under 60g protein but often over on fat and calories, so I made a few changes such as changing to low fat Flora margarine and half fat coconut milk for our curries but this would have only been for around 8 weeks and I was probably still over on fat and calories on quite a few days. I have no way of knowing though as I didn’t record it!

    With my boys I was eating a lot of red meat and full fat dairy everyday and lots of dairy milk chocolate each evening, so I likely had a higher protein intake, not sure about fat but probably higher due to the animal fats. I was also breastfeeding when I fell pregnant with DS2 but a bit less so.

    I was planning to start exercising more regularly but hadn’t started so I was doing very little exercise, in fact probably less than normal as we were in ‘lockdown’ in the UK for the 3 months before (not in the two weeks leading up to conception though) and I was homeschooling my eldest so only doing light walks here and there.

    My BMI was between 18-19 and I put on a little bit of weight, maybe 5 pounds, around Christmas / New Year, then rebalanced a bit and lost maybe 2 pounds, so sort of holding steady after gaining a bit. My weight fluctuates a bit with my cycle so I’m not too sure.

    I wasn’t taking any supplements, very occasionally took vitamin D (worried about Covid) but always forgot! My mid morning yogurt contains added calcium, vitamin D, vitamin B12 and active probiotic cultures :/ though I don’t think too much (I would have changed this). The hazelnut/rice milk didn’t contain any added vitamins but was quite high in fat (I would have changed to a lower fat alternative).

    At the time of conception I was involved in a campaign for asthmatics to get the COVID vaccine. The whole thing was making me feel stressed, down but also angry and kind of hopeless and forgotten about at times, but the campaigning was also giving me a sense of achievement. I expect this also sways boy. I wasn’t even thinking about swaying or Gender Dreaming at the time! I have the ‘boy mom’ personality - an obsessive nature, OCD diagnosed and definitely like everything to be clean and in order!

    My husband also doesn’t eat dairy or meat anymore (just fish and seafood) and has been eating a lot of soya foods for the last 6 month - year. He’s also taken up drinking peppermint tea every now and then. He’s reduced his calorie intake and lost a small amount of weight and gained muscle (he’s into weight training). He has also been doing cycling and spinning classes more recently.

    The fact we got pregnant under these circumstances makes me think we must still be super fertile which points towards another boy. I have everything crossed that the fact it was unplanned may sway girl?! I’m not sure if that even sways though? This is very likely my last chance at having a girl. I’m feeling so nervous about finding out the sex and don’t even know whether to before the birth, but if I see the nub at the 12 week scan it might give it away anyway! Thanks for reading if you got this far! Just wondered if anyone else has been in this situation.
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