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    Hi atomic

    Thank you for your reply -my brain is over thinking everything.

    You suggested the compromise solution above - but what if I had delayed ovulation at say 3 days later and I bd on that 4th day (after the first positive opk) wouldn’t that sway for a boy?
    If that makes sense ?

    Could I attempt one BD earlier on fertile days and then one on positive OPK
    (I know this will reduce changes of girl sway but by a lot ?)

    I can’t help but think that the e4d solution would sway towards a boy after I may have ovulated :/

    I know the best option is only ONE BD on OPK but also want to just try improve chances of conception with being very very midly pcos, irregular periods and v long cycle.

    I know eventually if none of these work I will go for your last option for the e4d from last day of period to just try and get pregnant

    Thank you
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    No, it doesn't sway for a boy because timing does not work. If you want timing, you are not going to be able to do e4d. Timing has been completely debunked by numerous scientists. We know Dr. Shettles was wrong, we even know how and why he was wrong, and most of us on here have 2-3-4 or more timing opposites. The full scientific case about timing is here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...le-timing.html

    It is not a good idea to add an attempt (since two attempts DOES sway more blue than one) to preserve timing because timing doesn't work. If you want to do timing, that is up to you, but I BEG you don't add attempts but keep timing!!! You're trading increased chances of blue for preserving something that does not work at all!

    I am completely fine with you not going to e4d yet. I offer it because you asked me how to boost odds of conception, but it is always your call to make if you do that or not. As of right now we have 14 of 18 people get girls with e4d (that's 77%) and 210 of 305 get girls with one attempt (that's 69%) so while I have much more faith in one attempt (since it's more tested, a larger sample size, and more obvious in our stats that it has worked for people) I am not finding that e4d sways blue at all since our results are not showing that.
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    Thanks atomic
    You are a super star !


    Still waiting patiently for my opks to give me signs of ovulation occurring soon

    I use both the cheap ones that can detect the negative to medium to positive and also the clear blue fertility- flashing smile to solid smile

    Do you know anything about these tests?
    I am a flashing smiley face for the last 3 days but my other strips are very lightly on the medium ends - know how many days between a flashing smiley to a solid smile you can get on average? I still have another week that I am expected to ovulate so not sure if it’s approaching soon - of course il test twice a day too.

    As I know a flashing smile is generally due to rise in oestrogen xx


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    Yes, I know about those kind of OPK.

    What time of day are you testing?

    Most people get 2 days of flashy, then go to solid (peak). But it is possible and not even particularly unusual to get several days of flashy before a peak reading (nor is it unusual to go straight to peak with no flashy).

    What cycle day are you??
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    Well I am CD 16 and my cycle days range from 35-40 sometimes even 45
    Last cycle i ovulated on cd 22 But really inconsistent each month (but definitely do hit peaks) just very irregular

    My first boy was a complete miracle/accident as no testing and one time hit who knows when and what part of the cycle! So not this stressful at all!


    Can flashing smiley face can go longer than a week before it hits peak
    Is that possible ?


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    Sorry I test my FMU and evenings before bed

    Hardest thing about doing afternoons and late evening is urine being more diluted not sure how I can get through the day without drinking water!


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    Yes, occasionally people can go up to a week with flashy smiley.

    Did we discuss having you switch to the alternate diet?? May I ask what your BMI is?

    You are testing with OPK at exactly the wrong times of day. After lunch is best, though the Clearblues are ok to use with FMU. Testing before bed is going to miss the time of day when the hormone is most concentrated in your urine.

    In many cases you will still get a positive even if you've been drinking water because the hormone is so concentrated in the early afternoon.
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    Ok
    Il change the timings of my tests! Good to know!

    My BMI is around 20.8 so roughly 21

    No alternatives for diets Has been discussed
    I am fairly healthy
    Atm just keep close eye on level of fats and proteins and calories within 1700
    Not tracking massively as I know after intermittent fasting two meals won’t make up that much calories
    Only thing I’ve changed is taking out my shakes and high protein and fat meals

    Would you suggest something else due to my irregularities?


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    Have you lost much weight so far??

    The trouble with not tracking is that it's really easy to cut back too far and end up not getting enough fat. I'm concerned you may not be eating enough fat. I am not sure you need the alternate diet at your weight but I do want you to use full fat dairy only, no skim, starting right away to be sure you're getting enough fat.
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    Hi atomic


    I’ve maintained my weight for a long time
    Probably lost a kilo if that

    After my 5 days of flashing smiley I got my peak static smiley

    However my strips are medium (not positive)
    Recommend we BD or wait for positive
    Il be measuring every 3-4 hours anyway

    No CM and not taking any supplements apart from fibre and folic now So it’s weirds I got no discharge

    After bd at positive il be bd every 4 days - after ovulation ?

    Didn’t expect to see static smiley till next week!

    Il increase my fat intake as well

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