Back and considering ttc for a fifth

[atomic sagebrush]

So you hadn't taken any OPK before CD 18?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, you absolutely could have ovulated earlier especially if you didn't test with OPK before CD 18.

Not only could you have had many days of positive OPK (this is not uncommon, you could absolutely still have positives CD 18 from CD 15/16 O) as Bunny is describing, it is also that you could have surged once, ovulated, and then these CD 18ish pos OPK were detecting NOT ovulation but the secondary estrogen surge that happens a week or so later. We often see people get a positive OPK about a week after ovulation. So it can be that you got a true positive CD 10-12, ovulated CD 14 or 15, and then a week later started testing with your OPK and picked up the secondary surge and not the surge that happens with ovulation.

[Jconger]

Ok yes I didn’t test until CD18. I wasn’t planning to ovulate until CD23 or 24 since that was what I was having the first two months with starting my period back up. This was my third cycle since getting pregnant with my 4th. I’ve never in my life ovulated before CD19 though. I feel like CD18 was definitely a positive though even though the app said my peak was CD19. I had changed my diet though. I mean I had really been focusing on HE until the last two weeks when I had injured my back. I don’t know if increasing my caloric intake would have bumped up my ovulation? Cd 14 or 15 would just be very very early for me... how accurate do you feel like ultrasounds are at telling your due date and when you conceived? Would I get answers from that? I’m due to go in in two weeks.


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[Jconger]

So you hadn't taken any OPK before CD 18?

That is right. The night of CD18 was my first OPK. I assumed it would have been negative.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Even if you've never ovulated sooner than CD 19, you can absolutely ovulate sooner at any point in time. Diet changes do affect the cycle sometimes quite dramatically. We have people both pink and blue swayers who will go from long cycles to CD 14 O in the span of a month, and are shocked when they O sooner than they expected.

Ultrasounds can be accurate, but it depends on how dedicated and skilled the tech is. Sometimes they're just like "whatever" and take some basic measurements and aren't that particular about getting it right

[atomic sagebrush]

That is right. The night of CD18 was my first OPK. I assumed it would have been negative.


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You can't assume that though for all the reasons we've already discussed.

For now, let's just KFX that you Oed sooner than you think and actually had many attempts. It is entirely entirely possible that's the case.

[Jconger]

That would be great! If not, hopefully just increasing our bding helped in general. Plus my diet changes. I know you have said several times you got pregnant with boys with a cut off... I had just read all of the one attempts in the fertile window which made me nervous. Lol


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[atomic sagebrush]

Even with classic perfect pink sways we still get boys anywhere from 25-33% of the time. You did a LOT to change things! You are not out of this by a LONGSHOT! FX and blue dust headed your way!

[Jconger]

Thank you so much for your encouragement. What do you feel like is the thing that helps swaying the most? Is it frequency, diet, supplements? I know it’s a combination but what seems to be the thing that tends to sway the most?


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[atomic sagebrush]

I can't answer that, I just don't have the ability to say. I can't ask anyone to just do one thing in isolation so I can have a "test" of these things on their own, so it's just not possible for me to quantify it.