How do I know when to start fr ?

If my cycles are all over the place ? Some cycles are 30 days some 50. This month I o on day 25 so looks like another long cycle but if it ranges by as much as 20days how do I know when to start fr ? Poor dh could be at it for weeks !! Ha ha any advice ? Also I often get 2 sets of +opk a couple of days apart can I do the deed again then is this the compressed fr ? How would that work ? Any advice great fully received.

I would prob. not do the FR in that case, but if you want to, I'd look at my cycles, pick the earliest date I've ever Oed, and start FR 7 days before that.

If you're doing FR you can have DH just keep releasing after the first pos OPK and then attempt again at second positive OPK. This is not compressed FR however (that's a lot of releases in a couple days with only 1-2 attempts). You can have many attempts with FR, it's abstain where you are supposed to stick with just one.

Thanks atomic how does having more than 1 attempt work with fr ? Sorry I'm being dim tonight

You just have more than one attempt! As long as he's either releasing or having an attempt every day, that's all that matters. The best days to have attempts are O-2, O-1, and O day, but some people attempt even earlier like O-3, 4, 5 and also go for an attempt the day after O day (trying for O+12) As long as he's releasing every day, you can have attempts on any of these days - so if you wanted to try for a long cutoff O-4, then an attempt O-1 (pos opk), then an attempt the day after O, you'd attempt only those days and have him release all the other days in between.

Is there another option other than FR then ?

Yes, there's the abstinence, the compressed FR, the hurry up FR, and they are in the frequency essays. Or you could do nothing. I really don't think frequency even sways by much.

Ok so frequency doesnt sway so im not bothered about that - we have never been big at dtd every day or even every other day its more like twice a week ha ha and was the same with the 2nd and 3rd boy !!! Im guessing the big thing is to reduce sperm count before dtd ??-

Well, I think it can sway, just not by too awfully much.

You're right, the big thing is to reduce sperm count and there are several ways to do that. If frequency isn't possible for you guys as a couple, then stick to LR, tighty whiteys, hot baths, and then focus on what YOU can do to make the environment more harsh and kill off some swimmers after ejaculation.