Well in the end we dtd 2 days before pos opk, day of pos opk, day of o but not sure how much dh came( he said he did, just not a big one lol) Some did come out after the 30 m hips propped but it looked like ewcm and not cloudy but who knows, I'm starting to think it mixed with preseed and my cm was hard to see so thinking I will count this as a attempt. Then one more attempt the next day at noon which would be "technically" day after o.How does this sound for blue?