im soo down and stressed out i really cant decide what to do ???

Hi im soo fed up cant continue with the diet much longer ive put on weight as i keep snacking i feel so down ive ruined this months attempt so will now have to wait til next cycle or maybe even dec now as really id prefere to have a sep baby instead of august due to when child will start school feels like ive been on the diet forever! Sorry just need to rant on as i have no one at home to talk about my ttc a girl even dh wont listen he's ok doing what he needs to do to help but wont talk about it! When i next try i will be doing more attempts as i need to come off the diet its been 10 months whats everyone doing attempt wise ive not gotten pregnant from one attemt at positive opk after abstain! Would it be ok to have dh release 2/3 times at positive opk then dtd on on the 3rd/4th time then do the same thing for a couple of days we tried fr then one attempt but i found this stressfull to do as dh got fed up after a wk plus of releasing everyday!? Sorry for moaning ive just had enough now but still would love a dd! X

I'm sorry to hear this...I'm almost on the same boat as you have been ttc since end of July and been on the diet 4 months. I'm sick and tired of it and don't know how much longer I can do this. I've been attempting quite more often because I know I still won't get a bfp. Hugs :(

I'm sorry for you... I understand you, although i'm not swaying for as long as you are now. But i'm already tired of it! I had a fab sway attempt early september (didn't got pregnant unfortunately), but then ruined my next attempt. And wanted to skip that (although we had an attempt around 40 hours after O, so there might be a chance i'm pregnant now, especially as O might have come later than i though).

Regarding frequency, the first cycle we BDed trough O with CFR. first batch around 5 pm (dropped it) and second batch at 11 pm (used it). We did it for six days, thus by the time real O came DH had to few spermies left i think...
Now were planning CRF from pos OPK for three to four days maximum and do twelve hours in between batches (so release at 11 am and BD at 11 pm).

Hi, I can also sympathise - I have been on diet since beg. of Feb, and been doing intense exercise since mid-Mar, so I feel your pain! :(

Regarding frequency I have read Atomic say a few times, that she is totally over frequency now, because it hardly sways, can be v stressful, and reduces odds of conception quite a bit...BUT that the 1attempt has gotten around 75% success for pink.

So if I were you, I would drop frequency this month, have DH do reg. release (every 2-4days on his own, or with you with a condom), drop any jellies or anti-h you may have been using, and try 1attempt at +opk....and then if BFN, maybe try 2 attempts next month?

I know that 3-5 attempts is getting around 80% success for blue swayers, and 1 attempt is getting around 75% for pink...but 2 attempts can be a good compromise for us pink swayers who have a harder time conceiving, as it still gets decent results for pink (I think around 58% or something?)
BUT def. drop the frequency/jellies/etc before adding attempts as those things can really cut your odds of conception while not really swaying an awful lot.

Oh and re the snacking, try not to be too hard on yourself...if your diet is still lower than previously, that is still going to help your sway :) If you are struggling with the snacking why not try to keep them to a min. and within a window of your day that suits you? eg. between 12pm-8pm, and then not eating between 8pm and midday next day is def. still going to help lower you blood sugar levels.

Good luck, hope you don't have much longer to wait for your BFP :)

My recommendation is to drop abstain, and PLEASE do not then force your poor husband to release that many times in a row. It's not going to help your odds at all and will quite probably make them worse.

I am SO OVER frequency. It isn't getting good results, it's too much trouble, and it is preventing pregnancy. One attempt is getting 75% pink regardless of frequency, so I think it's a step in the wrong direction to keep frequency and add attempts. That's keeping the thing that is preventing you from getting pregnant, while dropping the thing that legitimately seems to sway.

My advice for EVERYONE reading this is to try frequency for 1-2 months max and then drop it in favor of regular release every 2-4 days, either on his own or with you, with a condom, and KEEP one attempt.

NO ONE should be going on and on for 10 months without getting pg. If that's going on then you HAVE to make changes before that point because what happens is, people start off doing ridonkulously strict sways that have like .0001 chance of conception, then turn around and throw everything out the window, and get boys. You have to be willing to make gradual changes over time rather than stick to everything until you get fed up, then drop everything.

Re hurry up FR vs. compressed FR, I know most people aren't going to listen to what I just said about frequency (just to be clear, this is not me bastardizing or misrepresenting some other person's theory, it's the stuff that I personally came up with, which seemed like it could help a sway, but has subsequently proved more trouble than it is worth) so here is a clarification:

Hurry up FR: Have DH release one time then dump that, then DTD again as quickly as he's able to, within 6 hours, better yet 1-3 hours.

Compressed FR: Have DH release 2-3 times a day for 2-3 days before attempt (these releases can be 6-12 hours apart, they don't need to be close together) and then on day of attempt, try to have 2 releases that day - the first release can be early in the day and the second one can be many hours later, they don't need to be back to back with CFR, only with hurry up FR.

There is NO frequency pattern where a husband releases 2-3 times and then uses 3-4-5 release for insemination. That will not work (too few sperm) and most guys will find it totally impossible to do (esp for several days in a row!!). There is also no frequency pattern where you do a CFR and then tack a hurry up FR at the end of it. Again, that's not going to work and most guys will not be able to perform under that kind of pressure.

Thank-you for your replys im just having one if those days im not coping with ds3 being in full time school i miss him so much i thought id be pregnant by now so i wouldnt feel so lonely dh works long hours and kids at school all day is just getting me down ive been a stay at home mum for 10 years now i have an empty nest! Right enough moaning and feeling sorry for myself here's my 11th plan lol it changes every cycle ive alredy dropped rephresh,antihistamines,vitex,sp etc so next cycle will maybe skip this one far to many cheats and weight gain makes me to nervous so nov i will have dh release every 2/4 days dtd once at +opk,exercise and le diet does that sound ok? X

If you've been at this for 11 cycles then my recommendation is to try this month.

That plan is very close to what got me my girl (I did less than that because I did not exercise!) Good luck