forget the supplements!

(for me) im finding on this diet with all the meat and nuts im eating, that my hormones are changing without the use of supplements. my cm is drier than normal (in the days leading up to O). i mean THAT parts not good, but as long as i get enough ewcm for TTC. but im happy that i know that ive changed something about my body and that all the eating and weight gain is HOPEFULLY paying off! also 2 facial pimples during AF.

as far as supplements, im only taking: prenatal (has zinc and calcium in it), dha, and folic acid (4x/s a day). im meeting my K+ needs i think, defly my caloric needs, and close to Na needs. but BS is defly maintained (unless i get super busy which happens sometimes). its hard for me to stop in the middle of a task to eat. i have to FINISH what im doing first. but im working on that. also weights 3x/wk.

unless, my body is still recovering/readjusting from l-arginine seems like ive changed my body's hormones. i re-read (IG material) that the purpose of supplements are for increasing EWCM and to increase pH in CM (for the purpose of TTCboy..so regardless of your fertility status).

is this right? anyone else have similar experience?

so im assuming if ihave ewcm and if my pH is acceptable, than no point in additional supplements?
im just worried that O will be later than a normal cycle (before the diet) due to an assumed increase in testosterone. also i had some ewcm on cd10 with some blood tinged in it. anyone hear of that and know what it could be from.

boy i write a lot dont i?

I think that's great!!! A lot of us with all boys never did anything odd or special at all to have them, just a boy-friendly diet, eating patterns, and lifestyle! That's all you really need to do for blue.

Rem. that IG believes it is pH and minerals in the CM that sway (they want EWCM because it's high in pH, not because it raises sperm numbers), so that's their focus rather than boosting overall fertility. The Robitussin/Mucinex might solve any CM dryness problems without affecting hormones anyway.

The CM tinged with blood is quite normal and can be caused by a lot of diff things, including yoru cervix being a little injured or irritated. It will only raise your pH, so don't worry about it.

Good luck and sending you more blue dust than you know what to do with!!

Oh yeah and your O ~should~ stay pretty close to normal because yoru estrogen should go up in addition to your testosterone.

Nice, Gizmo! Way to go!!!

thank you guys. refreshing to hear about what you think about O and spotting, atomic, and thanks for reminding me about mucinex/robitussin. ill keep that handy in case i need it in oct!

I'm on the exact same page as you Gizmo. I'm kind of a "naturalist" anyway, so all the supplements worried me, but I'm finding the diet changes are doing the trick just fine! Oh and lemon water :) Lots of lemon water. The only thing I'm taking is a prenatal, extra folic acid, fish oil (only one a day) and one potassium a day. After my l-arg problems, I decided it wasn't worth it. The diet alone seems to getting even my non-ovulating pH up (it's now 6.4 when it used to not even get over 5). Plus I agree with Atomic on the lifestyles issues... stress, muscle mass, etc. I've started doing more Pilates and lifting weights and we decided to sell our house and build a new one all in the same month we start TTC :) How's that for stressful??? Trying to keep the house that I watch my three kiddos in all day clean for showings! HA! That should be fun!

thats awesome soontobesix! defly diet and exercise are working. im lemon water all day except half a glass at night bc i bring it up to the bedroom with me and i dont like lemon water to be sitting in a glass all night as a just in case i get thirsty drink.
i havent checked my pH yet since i started with lemon water but im sure its doing something. nice to know im not alone!!!

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Rem. that IG believes it is pH and minerals in the CM that sway (they want EWCM because it's high in pH, not because it raises sperm numbers), so that's their focus rather than boosting overall fertility.
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so what is GD's theory on what supps are for? fertility? nutrients?

Well, I don't think there IS an official GD-sway like there is on IG. This is more of a let's-share-info-and-opinions kinda place.

I know some people on this site think the FGD works and pH works and timing works, so they're more in line with the IG beliefs.

My personal take is that supps boost overall fertility, increase CM, and help maximize the environment for sperm survival. And also that more nutrients make your body think times are good and a boy has a better chance of survival.

Ok but lets just don't forget that not everyone is this lucky. We can't just all forget the sups and drinks and all because there is some lucky ones and there is some like me.
I do the diet , weight training , ect. for months now and still I need sups and drinks to help me out to see a little change at all. (for example I eat meat every day but started the gelatin drinks and I see some hair grow now only after I started)
So Im happy we have help with all this for those of us having a hard time changing.