Pin pointing ovulation

Hi

Please can someone help me im soooo confused as to when ovulation occurs. I have read some websites saying it occurs the day i get my dip in my temp, and that the day i get the rise (the next day) is to say that ovulation has occured. Another website says your egg lasts 24 hours AFTER ovulation.... so ovulation occurs on the day of the dip but is the egg still alive the day after (day of rise) or does rise mean the egg has gone? Whats confusing me more is i get twinges in my ovaries, slight dull/pulling pain and lower back ache the day of my rise (day 15), not dip (day 14) does that mean im ovulating day 15? I cant go by cm as i only got creamy thick cm on days 10 + 11 and nothing since. Im sorry if this isnt making sense but i have read so many different websites and i still dont get it :) Thanks in advance

I'm no temping expert by any means, but I did read a lot about it when my SIL was TTC and I was trying to help her out. From what I understand, you ovulate the day of your dip, the 3 days of higher temps just confirm that you did indeed ovulate. I don't think you can trust pains in your ovaries as some people will have them days before ovulation actually occurs. I would go by your temps and say that you ovulated on day 14.

Studies have shown that people get it right about 1 out of 3 times (even experts). On average, the temp dip is O-1 through O day ish, and you'll get a rise the next day but there are other patterns too, and additionally there are many reasons your temps could be off one day and make things confusing.

IF the pattern is correct, most of the time by the time the temp has risen, the egg is dead (exceptions do occur like a temp being higher or lower than normal) but there are flukey charts with slow rises or more than one dip and you can't rely on them with anything more than a guesstimate. There will be a time period of 3 days you can pin down pretty reliably and on ONE of them, you will have Oed, but without ultrasound and blood tests, not even trained experts can get it any closer than that.

The idea that eggs live 24 hours is WRONG. That is for people who are using temping and charting as birth control. It is a theoretical maxiumum of how long an egg ~might~ live in ideal circumstances but virtually all experts now agree it is almost certainly a much shorter time period than that. The people using it as birth control are trying to err on the side of caution and avoid ANY chance of intercourse when an egg could possibly be alive, but that number was NEVER meant to help anyone achieve pregnancy. No one ever meant for anyone to come swooping in 20 hours after ovulation to try and get pregnant - it just doesn't work to do that. The sperm need to be in there BEFORE ovulation to be sure at having a chance at an egg that probably does not live much beyond 4-12 hours.

you can get o pain before, during and after O. It is TOTALLY normal to have pain after ovulation. I have had it for 3-5 days after O!

Thank you both for taking the time to reply, i understand now. My first attempt is next month and im so excited :) but we dtd last night on day 15 i had my first rise yesterday morning and paniced i did it to close to ovulation and maybe the egg was still alive but hubby couldnt wait any longer !!

Timing doesn't sway, it's fine to DTD on O day