What the heck is going on?

UPDATE:

Cd 10 am high (cbfm), no smilie, high AD (this one looks like it miiiiiiiiiigt be starting a surge but the other two are lighter than yesterday).

See below (purple is the Advanced digital but only got a High flashy face...everything else negative)


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Cm - none to guide me

CP - still high

Had some more cramping at 5 am which has subsided now. So if yesterdays test really was a weak surge then that would make today O day.



I have been testing with 3 different opk since cd6.

Cd6 am/pm - Low
CM - none still spotting

Cd 7 am low, low, no smilie
Cd 7 pm High (cbfm), low (advanced digital), no smilie (digital)
CM-sticky

Cd 8 am high (cbfm), low ( advanced digital), no smilie (digital)
Cd8 afternoon no smilie, low (AD)
Cd 8 pm High (cbfm), low (AD), no smilie

CM -creamy

Ovaries sore all afternoon, off & on until 2 am


Cd 9 2am no smilie, low (AD)
Cd9 7 am no smilie, high (flashing smilie AD)
Cd9 11 am high CBFM, no smilie, still flashing smilie (AD)

All pain in ovairies stopped.

1.Now i am wondering if I ovulated last night cd8 but never detected an LH surge?

2. Why would my ovaires be sore all nite and then just stop?

3. Is it even possible to O on cd8?

4. Does this mean bad egg?

Here are some pics of my opk progression. There are others but i have chosen the darkest ones....

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is it possible to O with sticks like these?

I do not think you've Oed yet.

I have life altering O pains nearly every month and have it in about every pattern you can possibly imagine including having it early in the cycle and then it stops for a few days and then comes back around O. I think you just had some "O pain" (for lack of a better word because it isn't technically from ovulation, of course) and no one really seems to know what causes it. I think things are growing and for some of us, it causes pain when it starts or when it's in a certain spot or when some other thing happens that only God knows LOL.

It is possible to O CD 8 and conceive from it, but I don't think that is what is happening. :)

It is possible to O with sticks like that if the concentration of hormone in your urine never reaches high enough to make the sticks go positive (or if the sticks are sucky batch which does happen too) but given the whole scenario I do not think you've Oed yet.

Thanks Atomic!

I have used these sticks every single month and never had a problem.

As for the urine concentration, I have had months where I will get a smilie on the ditial and no Peak on CBFM and via-versa, but the sticks are always close....and at least ONE set will turn positive.

But so far nothing! Not a single one is + or :)

I had creamy cm yesterday. Today i have what looks like ew but doesnt stretch hardly at all so its probably bd leftovers.(how doe you tell the difference?)

The only reason I am fussed about this is bc i am trying for a cut-off and i dont know when or if I should BD again....


My pH was 4.5 before bd, 5.5 after bd, and back to 4.5 this am.

I had a wonky cycle like this in Dec when I conceived dd. only Highs on the CBFM but i did get 2 smilies in a row. And that was a crappy egg....so who knows what an egg that cant even get enough LH to trigger an OPK is like.

Do you think the O pain could be an ovarian cyst?

Hi Mrs G. I don't think you've Oed yet either hun, like Atomic said. And remember each of us can get that O pain before, on or after O and it can vary each cycle as well. Your sticks are showing on the 25th June that you are getting closer to positive OPKs, but not quite positive yet. Have they gotten darker for you before in other cycles (like as dark as control line or darker than)? What sort of cutoff are you going for Hun and when have you BD so far this cycle? Try not to stress...just do your best. :)

Thanks 1moregirl,

I BD on cd8 at 7 pm. I had O pain off/on all afternoon and through the night. I thought for sure I would get a +opk sometime today. I usually get the O pain a day before +opk.

My sticks are usually dark as the control. The CBFM will sometimes give me a high even though i can plainly see it is +++, but then i pee on the digital and get a smilie face straight away....and a few hr later the CBFM will catch up (i have 2 monitors).

My cm is hardly there. Just feeling sort of wet.

I am trying for a BD 12-24 hr BEFORE +opk (so a 48-60 hr cutoff).

I tested just now and still negative opk. I took the dried test from this morning and stuck it in my monitor bc it seemed darker than the one i just peed on....just to see if the result would change....but nope. still HIGH.

I will keep testing 3x per day unless something changes. (Sigh)

Why is it the months i dont ttc everything works like clockwork with the opk and now when DH is actually around to BD the damn things won't cooperate?

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Originally Posted by MrsGoodies

Thanks Atomic!

I have used these sticks every single month and never had a problem.

As for the urine concentration, I have had months where I will get a smilie on the ditial and no Peak on CBFM and via-versa, but the sticks are always close....and at least ONE set will turn positive.

But so far nothing! Not a single one is + or :)

I had creamy cm yesterday. Today i have what looks like ew but doesnt stretch hardly at all so its probably bd leftovers.(how doe you tell the difference?)

The only reason I am fussed about this is bc i am trying for a cut-off and i dont know when or if I should BD again....


My pH was 4.5 before bd, 5.5 after bd, and back to 4.5 this am.

I had a wonky cycle like this in Dec when I conceived dd. only Highs on the CBFM but i did get 2 smilies in a row. And that was a crappy egg....so who knows what an egg that cant even get enough LH to trigger an OPK is like.

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Neither one is positive yet because you are not ovulating. :)

There is a trick to telling EW from leftovers but you DON'T NEED TO KNOW. It seriously makes no difference. Leftovers don't stretch. Here is an article telling you a test you can do to tell the two apart but I do not recommend you do this. EWCM (Egg White Cervical Mucous) or Semen: How to Tell the Difference

I know you're trying for a cutoff but this is a primo reason why I do not and never will recommend them. See how control-freaky this is getting here??

A bad egg has nothing to do with whether or not you ovulate. (I WISH! that would prevent chemicals totally!!)

No, I do not think you have an ovarian cyst. Is it in the realm of possible, sure, but I doubt it.

UPDATE:

Well i finally surged....got my first smilie cd 10 at 8 pm, but only flashy face AD and High on CBFM

This morning.... what a +OPK look like for my future reference lol!

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And for the record:

I have no O pain or any symptoms at all
CM is wet (no ew)
CP high

You all were right...o pain doesnt predict O....oh well..i guess i can chalk this up to a learning cycle and trust what the sticks are telling me .... :)