Boy sway help please...

Hi there!

I have 3 beautiful daughters and am ttc a boy - our last shot.

I bought a personalised plan and have been giving it my all - I’ve sort of lost my way with my sway if I’m totally honest.

We’ve been ttc for 4 months now over 5 month period (we took 1 month off as we went away and my sway took a massive hit). Still no BFP. With my three girls we got a BFP within 1-2 months. I think that’s part of my spiralling motivation. Before ttc this time for #4 I got told I had low ovarian reserve after some bloods I had done. This cycle I didn’t appear to ovulate at all, but I’ve just had a ridiculously heavy period with some really weird symptoms and (sorry tmi) lots of clotting - so I did wonder if it was perhaps a missed miscarriage?? [emoji1745]*[emoji3601]

As it’s Christmas, my sway has deviated - diet is ok (as I’m stuffing my face!!) but I’m not really exercising, supps are hit and miss and I am drinking quite a bit of gin (during my swaying I reserved it to one large red on a Friday night!)

Do I ttc in jan cycle - in 2 weeks on the basis that my egg reserve may be low and time not on my side (36) or do I take jan off to give myself 6 weeks to get back on it properly??? I’m also concerned that if it was a missed miscarriage- if I ttc in jan (the next cycle) doesn’t that sway pink?? Just would like some friendly advise on what others would do in this situation??

I know In the scheme of things ttc for 4 months is nothing, but I just feel I’m losing my way a bit and if I’m totally honest losing my conviction for swaying (my partner is a non believer, especially as #3 was a sway opposite)

Help please Xxx


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Heavy periods and clotting don't necessarily mean a miscarriage. I have had those many a time when there was no chance I could have possibly been pregnant. If you've been drinking alcohol after not drinking it as much, it is notorious for making heavy periods because it's a blood thinner. Esp. if you're taking fish oil still. I would need to know more about the symptoms and the timing of it all to say for sure (and even then I'd not be able to say 100%, of course)

I honestly can't tell you whether you should TTC in Jan. or not. I honestly don't know. If you will live 1000 lifetimes of rregret if you try this month and get a girl, then try, but keep in mind that you could skip the month and end up with a girl NEXT month (nd may have even had better luck this month for all we know.) There is just no way to know and so I have to toss the question back to you in that case.

Can you tell me about when you guys are having your attempts?

@atomic I am so curious for your response... after my *possible* chemical in December after tracking O symptoms for 4 months & being sure I nailed the timing then... super heavy AF in December... I am so nervous about how holiday travel & HE diet & daily alcohol consumption could possibly affect my sway attempt #2 this weekend

Ava bracelet predicts Saturday as O-day. I fly back home Friday afternoon. To piggyback @3littleladies question about missed miscarriage... Do you have any thoughts on travel or holiday stress/consumption affecting a boy sway?

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Heavy periods and clotting don't necessarily mean a miscarriage. I have had those many a time when there was no chance I could have possibly been pregnant. If you've been drinking alcohol after not drinking it as much, it is notorious for making heavy periods because it's a blood thinner. Esp. if you're taking fish oil still. I would need to know more about the symptoms and the timing of it all to say for sure (and even then I'd not be able to say 100%, of course)

I honestly can't tell you whether you should TTC in Jan. or not. I honestly don't know. If you will live 1000 lifetimes of rregret if you try this month and get a girl, then try, but keep in mind that you could skip the month and end up with a girl NEXT month (nd may have even had better luck this month for all we know.) There is just no way to know and so I have to toss the question back to you in that case.

Can you tell me about when you guys are having your attempts?

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Thanks atomic - my period came 5 or 6 days early which also threw me, it was incredibly heavy and I have quite a lot of large clots. I’d been feeling quite morning sicknessey and so honestly thought I’d be getting a BFP this month . Who knows?!
I haven’t really been drinking heavily - just a couple of gins most days for about 4 days over Xmas - nothing too extreme ( I was basically t-total before tho whilst on boy sway)

With attempts - for the first 3 cycles we did EOD from after af and then we got in our 3 attempts at positive OPK - the only attempt we ever “missed” was the one a couple of days after in case of late ovulation we never seemed to be able to manage that one.

This month - I never got my positive OPK - it just never came so we stayed on EOD - I charted it below...(however I only started plotting on 11th - I can’t be sure how many times we dtd between AF and 11th so I left it off as I didn’t want to just guess)

I will be religiously plotting next month.

Just not sure why we’ve not conceived yet when we have done within 1 or 2 months the previous 3 times we got pregnant? And surely I should be even more fertile whilst on boy plan (& I was taking DHEA and COq10 at the start too) - I dropped both of those but am restarting 100mg COQ10 (which was an optional in my plan) - any other advise??

Thanks x

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3littleladies: It may also be that you ovulated sooner than your norm due to rising estrogen and this can also make a thicker lining and in turn a heavier period. It doesn't take much alcohol at all to really make for a heavy period (it's happened to me a couple times and it was really shocking!)

What I would do next month is be sure to have at least one extra attempt around CD 14. I suspect this was just a case of not having enough attempts at go time this month.

For reasons I don't totally understand we've had several blue swayers not get pregnant right away. Everything in the blue sway should only boost odds of conception, so I honestly don't know what the underlying mechanism is. What is DH taking again??

I did wonder about early ovulation - what day of the cycle do most people start testing on? I normally start on what the internet says is my fertile week so I could easily have missed it?!

He is on a fish oil, probiotic, vitamin d, multi vitamin and then his heart & diabetic medication.

I’m not sure we can manage 3 attempts at OPK and then 1 attempt 2 days after - we seem to do the 3 and then burn out after a day off! [emoji23] if we really can’t manage it - is it best to do 3 attempts and then leave it or do 2 attempts at positive OPK and then leave a day and then 1 more attempt?? We can manage the EOD from AF - it’s just the attempts at OPK that get a bit much. It’s that one after the 3 attempts to catch late ovulation

Thanks x


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I like you guys to start testing at least a few days before the earliest day you MIGHT ovulate. Let's say for instance you ovulated on CD 12, and started testing CD 11. Maybe you'd already surged on CD 10 and missed it by CD 11, or maybe your urine wasn't concentrated enough on CD 11. Your shorter cycle may indicate you Oed sooner than it appeared.

I don't ahve the data to know what of those options is better. I think you guys should do whichever one works better for him. My gut instinct is for you to have the 2 attempts and then leave a day and have one more.

Thanks atomic - i started testing on CD9 this cycle so fingers crossed I catch it this time and it was just a case of missing it last month

I’ll probably do EOD (we have been so far) and then 2 attempts at OPK, a day break and then one extra attempt for late O - I think that is a lot more manageable for us and when we do 3 attempts at OPK we can never seem to do a follow up.

Can I ask - obviously with Xmas I have been overindulging in diet - not so much chocolate. It’s more grazing all of the time on cheese, meats, general savoury nibbles for me - I presume that all still sways blue? X


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Yes that's absolutely fine!! Grazing is always good for blue.

I'm fine with those attempts too. :agree: very very good! The 3 attempts at pos OPK really originated as an alternative to Shettles - so those people refused to do any attempts sooner than around ovulation and the only way for them to get in more than 1-2 attempts was doing it that way. . If you're doing EOD I am absolutely fine with you guys adding two or even just one attempt around pos OPK. Your method is very much how I got my boys - regular unprotected sex out of the fertile window at all times, and then when we were actively trying, we'd toss in a couple more around ovulation. But we never got in 3 around ovulation!

Arghh I need some urgent help...

So we have been BD very frequently and at least EOD since af, however we were due to BD last night (sat night) and didn’t as DH was too tired from working. Sods law at 11pm when he was fast asleep I took a test and got my first positive OPK :(

We have had attempts CD 5, 7, 8, 10, 11 and 14

I got my positive OPK evening of CD 13 (the day we didn’t BD and should have) and morning of CD14 - we BD that night (tonight)

I’ve been getting some cramping and pain in ovary tonight (CD14) so wondering if I’m ovulating now?

We plan to bd tomorrow too CD15 and then probably have a night off and BD again CD17 in case of late O...is that the right thing to do??

There is not really any way we can BD again in morning as we have 3 little kids and work :( if we could that would massively make me feel better. I’m pretty bummed about missing the attempt on CD13 :(

Does this look terrible for a blue sway?? Anything else I should/could do to improve? Honest thoughts please?

I guess realistically if I ovulate tonight (CD14 or morning of CD15 - which is 36 hours after positive OPK) and I BD tomorrow as planned, that would still be 4 attempts in the fertile window won’t it???

Oh and can I ask - does Johnsons baby oil sway pink, blue or neutral? I used preseed on myself but noticed DH used some oil on himself before entering and finishing (if you know what I mean - sorry for tmi!) so our overall lube would have consisted of whatever johnsons baby oil was left on him and the preseed put in me (which I’m hoping outweighed the oil in terms of amounts)??

Thanks in advance for help :)

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