Anyone have any experiences with either of these centers for GS? I am going crazy researching them..I have 3 beautiful boys but am missing having a girl. How many cycles does it usually on average take if you are a fertile?
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Anyone have any experiences with either of these centers for GS? I am going crazy researching them..I have 3 beautiful boys but am missing having a girl. How many cycles does it usually on average take if you are a fertile?
We've had people cycle at both. FCNE has a recent BFP on here. The info is in the Cycle Diaries forum
But it's a member forum.
heard good things about both--definitely consult with both and see--good luck!
I haven't cycled anywhere yet but have had quite a few emails/conversations back and forth to FCNE. They give me a sense of warmth and understanding rather than someone just doing a job. I know it doesn't help you much but just thought I'd add it in :)
My top 3 clinics are so different you just can't compare! One for experience, One for convenience/financial reasons & One for the "feeling". It's really hard for me to narrow it down.
Good Luck to you no matter where you go and I hope you can find a combination of the above :)
Hi! I'm actually cycling at Fertility Centers of New England. I started my Gonal F injections this past Sunday. I just went in for blood work today (day 2) to check my estradiol levels. It has been easy so far (only one shot each night into my stomach - two shots total - many more to go!!!). I'm in a constant state of disbelief that I've embarked on this journey. I feel excited and crazy at the same time. :) As for the center, they've been great. I've been working with Tammy who manages the PGD portion and she gave me her personal cell phone to call if I have any questions with the various medications (pretty daunting). They also make it really easy to come in for bloodwork and ultrasounds (of which there are many!). I went in this morning for blood work. Went in at 7:30 (though I think you can go in as early as 6 or 6:30am) and walked out by 7:40. Minimal disruption to my day. I also know of another lady who just cycled there with PGD and is pregnant. She cycled last month. She too has had a good experience.
I just finished all of my pre-testing at FCNE and so far, so good! I am seeing Dr. Weiss and I really like him, my HT journey has been much easier to get started than I thought it was going to be. I have been seen so quickly for every apt. that I have had there so far and something else that I love is that the nurses call me back right away when I leave a message with a question - love that! I haven't really heard anything about Boston IVF but just wanted you to know that FCNE has been a great experience for me so far.
Wishfulthinking - I too am still in a total state of disbelief that I am actually going through with this! I hope to get things rolling next month! It's fun to read about other people going to FCNE, good luck with your cycle!!
I have my call in with FCNE, and RSC appointment is already booked. Please, please, PLEASE do yourself the favor and avoid Boston IVF like the plague! I know people will give them good kudos, but if you've read any of my posts, you'll understand why I will never give them another thought. We went through Hell with them.
I've interviewed a few other clinics and none are willing to do PDG for gender. RSC is now, whereas 4 years ago they wouldn't, not sure why the change? Might've been different doctors. FCNE comes very highly recommended so I am hoping the call me back tomorrow so I can set up my consult.
Thanks to my company changing insurance, we're hoping for our next cycle to be in Dec.
Good luck!!!
It's official we're using FCNE. Dr. Weiss, too. TickledPink are you still here? I'm so much in denial that it's begun, feels just like more testing at this point. <sighs>
Hey Tinks!! I am still here!! I am so glad that you decided to use FCNE - what office are you using? I go to the Dedham office until ER and ET where I will go to Reading. When do you think you will do your cycle? I will start early next month - still so crazy that I am really going through with this. Don't think it will feel real until I start that first injection!
TP, yep, we're in Dedham too! But of course AF decided to show 2 days late and I'm back and forth to Reading on Sundays now for bloodwork. Figures, huh? It's OK, despite getting up super early on a Sunday, it's my alone time to think... :) (then I can go back to sleep when I get home, and do!)
I just got my FSH back from day 3, it's 6.9! Lowest its been since we starting testing in '09. No word yet on my AMH or our karyotyping, but I'm calling tomorrow to see if it's back. Wish they posted it in the "portal".
Are you doing a FET and did he mention using menopur for you? We discussed it, that's his plan. He wants to give the boys every chance to die naturally before we transfer them. I guess I'm ok with that, it does make sense.
LOL, wait til the injections, I dread them, but hubby and I joke around during them so it makes it fun. Are they giving you BCPs too?
Just noticed you're in RI, we're right on the border of RI :)
OMGosh, I hear you on the drive - lots and lots of alone time to think! I am driving to Dedham from East Greenwich, RI - I will have even EXTRA alone time to think when I have to drive to Reading for ER and T - that drive will be a bitch!! Wish our stuff all happened on the same day and we could drive together, lol!!!
Ok, so today is cycle day 1 for me - I called Tammy and got the low down on how my cycle should look. I am doing a fresh cycle - I will start the BCP tomorrow and take it until Nov. 11th and then she thinks ER will be a few days after Thanksgiving and then ET should be that first week of December. I was really hoping I could get this all done before Thanksgiving but they had to extend my BCP for a bit just to make sure nothing would land on Thanksgiving day because they are closed that day.
Awesome on your FSH - wish mine was that low!! I was at a 7.9 when we did day 3 bloodwork for my pretesting in August, would be awesome if it would somehow get lower by next month but I doubt it, lol! I'm 38 so I gues 7.9 is kind of the norm for my age range. I need to go back to an old thread of yours to get caught up on your story. I take it you are doing a FET and putting back 2 boys!!???? I believe that Dr. Weiss is going to use Menopur with me. I am pretty new to all of the IVF and PGD lingo so I'm not too sure what the Menopur does. I am looking at my sheet right now and he has me on the Antagonist Cyle with Birth Control. Do you know why he would have me take BCP instead of Lupron? Just heard of others using Lupron and didn't know if one was better than the other when it comes to supressing.
Keep me posted on what your next step is!!! Hope you have a great weekend Tinks!
Hey girls, why are the prices so low here? Can u tell me your success stories with PGD? Did you do FET and what day did Dr. Weiss and what day did they test for PGD, anyone test for 24 chromosomomes?
Hey GT77 - not sure why the prices are so low at FCNE, glad to know that they are though since I really didn't look anywhere else - FCNE happens to be close to me so it just seemed to be the best option. I really don't have much info for you yet since I haven't cycled yet but I will be more than happy to answer more of your questions once I get things rolling next month. Good luck to you!!
TP, your FSH isn't so bad! Mine oddly enough has come down since I was 38 (it was 12 when I was 38), but I've been doing everything to be healthy. My TSH on the other hand, it going up and up and up! I am now on Levoxyl for the month. It went from 1.2 in May to 2.9 (which is still technically OK, but it is rising rapidly). I am supposed to approximately start BCPs on Nov 1, but I want to be 100% sure things are A-OK before I drop another dime into this. I did talk to Jamie yesterday in great detail and Dr. Weiss as well. I'm on an aggressive stim too. I have 8 follies on my own, which is decent for 41 as well. He's doing what's called "microflash". He was initially going to do menopur, but then changed it to this new format. I'll be on 20u lupron (10 x 2 daily), gonal, and 2 other things. Totally different protocol from BIVF.
I did get to talk to Tammy today as well, we're going to do a day 5 24 panel SNIP with Natera. Overall I'm very happy with the way they're treating me and that's most important right now. We're also doing ICSI which we've not done before, but Jamie and Tammy both said it's better to do with IVF.
Since we're going to have to freeze then transfer the next month, I'm debating on waiting a couple more months before we start. I really want to meet with my endo first and run a full panel of tests on my autoimmune.
Are you going for gender? We are, boys, but I think EVERYONE on this forum knows that, lol. I'm praying for 2 normal to come from this....
How are you eating? I went and did a complete change. Nothing processed, only organic. I gave up sugar, dairy, alcohol, caffeine, and gluten. I have to believe that contributed to the good numbers. My day 10 bloodwork my FSH went to 11, which is understandable since I took Clomid.
Hubby's and my karyotyping both came back normal. No word on AMH yet... My Sono looked awesome as well. Oddly enough, I *shouldn't* have trouble getting pregnant, but yet I still do! Took years to get our girls :(
Are they giving you PIO? I'm getting it, apparently it's better... I'm not thrilled for more shots.
Hey Tinks! Ok, how funny - I am on Levoxyl too, can't recall my numbers of my THS but it was borderline high. I am just loving that you are having a baby at 41. I would seriously love 4 kids but I always find myself saying I can't because I'm 38 and running out of time but I could fit a fourth one in there if I really wanted to, lol!!
I want to know about microflash? And do you think I should ask Tammy about Nateral - I'm not too sure if I understand what it is but I have been seeing it pop up here and there on this forum, it seems like it might be the new way to go with PGD. I need to send my papers and money out in the next couple of weeks so I better check this stuff out soon! We will be doing ICSI as well. Tammy is great isn't she - I love her accent! I moved here from California so I get a kick out of strong New England accents, love it!
And yes, we are going for a girl. We have 2 awesome little dudes but REALLY want the opportunity to raise a daughter too so here we are! OMG, you are so good with your diet - I haven't changed a darn thing. I'm thinking I should for this next month leading up to my cycle. I guess I need to read up on what to eat before IVF - I guess just do what you are doing . . . organic, gluten free, no sugar, no alcohol or caffeine - not sure I will live long enough to make it to my cycle if I give all that up, lol!!
What is PIO?? Not sure if I will have that or not. Is that the Progesterone Injections?? If it is, then yes I will have those too. Whatever Dr. Weiss is doing seems to be working because the last 2 girls from here that cycled there are preggers now with their baby girls!!! Love that we are both cycling at the same place, I can't wait to cheer you on when your cycle comes!!
Hi tinksmagic and tickledpink! Sorry to just jump right into your post, but I am very eager to try IVF/PGD in the future (I am actually 5 months pregnant with baby boy #3 and experiencing really bad GD :( so it's the hope of going through what you both are going through in the future that is keeping me from feeling terribly sad all day). My husband actually has always wanted four kids, so I'm glad that we both agree to have more kids, but after doing a pretty hard core girl sway for this baby, and then having it fail, we both agree that we'd like to go HT next time around. We are in NH so your thread was especially interesting for me, as I think the clinic you both are going to would be best for me. So I am anxious to read all of your posts to see how things are going and get familiar with the lingo, etc. I hope you both don't mind me joining in to ask questions! Thanks in advance for your kindness and support :o)
Hi wantingatutu (cute name by the way!) - of course you can jump on to our thread! That is pretty much what I did when I saw a few girls who lived in the same area as me and were cycling at the same clinic. To be honest with you, I had tons of GD when I was pregnant with DS #2 and I can't believe how much I can't stop kissing the little booger now, he is the best thing ever. I know that's how you will be with DS #3 - and now that you know that you can go HT to get your girl and your husband is on board, you can totally relax and get excited about your perfect family of 3 boys and a girl!! I didn't even know about going HT when I was pregnant with DS #2 - I was so excited to find out that there were people as crazy as me who wanted a daughter as bad as I did and there was actually a FOR SURE way to get her!! Lol!
I have heard great things about FCNE and am having a great experience there so far so I'm glad that you think you would use them as well. I am so happy to have you join in on our journeys as I will be very excited to join in on yours. I still can't believe that my hubby and I are actually going through with this, it just seems so surreal and I am soooooo praying that it works the first time but need to know that it might take a couple of tries. And you are welcome to ask tons of questions - I am still learning so I'm not that much help now but should be tons of help in a month or so!! :wink:
Hi again! Thank you SO much for letting me join in on the conversation and for answering any questions I may have! I think when the time comes it will also feel SO surreal. I am just starting to get excited about a new baby in the house - although at times it's tough when you see all of your friends having baby girls :( But I love my two boys dearly and they will be thrilled to have a baby brother (they don't know what is in mommy's tummy - not telling them till the birth!). I am also looking forward to a family of four, when that happens :o)
So I do have a few questions for you already - hope you don't mind! First is, was insurance able to help you at all with the cost of IVF? I am trying to research that now with our insurance but haven't quite figured it out yet (just reading through paperwork - I really don't want to have to make that phone call just yet). Also, do you know if your meds are covered by insurance - or are you paying all out of pocket? We have a lot saved up already for this venture, just wanting to know JUST how much we will need. How much, roughly, do you think your first cycle (or each cycle, for that matter) will cost? Are they able to give you a bundle - like three cycles for a certain price? Again, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions and I REALLY look forward to seeing how things go for you at FCNE! Wishing you success on your FIRST cycle!!!!!!!!
HI Ladies! TP, hope things are going great in your cycle. I'm "technically" supposed to start tomorrow, but the insurance company is holding things up. They refused to cover ICSI and PGD. Their reasoning, unless one of us has a translocation or disease (which thankfully we don't) they won't cover. Nor will they cover despite RPL due to chromosomal abnormalities which make NO SENSE to me; they'd rather pay for a failed cycle (about 15K) or possibly a child with defect for the rest of it's life than weed out that possibility and only create healthy embryos. I'm appealing their decision this week.
Wantingatutu, I fully understand your GD. I went through is horribly with DD #3 and didn't have the wonderful support from this group 7 years ago. We have 4. It's great!!! Loud, expensive, but great!!! We will have 6 by the time we're done. Then WE'RE DONE!!! lol.
Where in NH are you? Reading is real close to the NH border for FCNE so that's awesome!!! Enjoy #3, I met a woman the other night preggers and asked and got the "another boy" grumble. I had to remind her to be thankful he's healthy and there are women (me) who would kill to be pregnant with a boy. I know her feeling, but we also need to be reminded that it's a good thing too!!! My DD #3 gives me the run around but at the end of the day, she's right there for snuggles. I'm going to miss the nail polish all over my furniture and floor, tons of shoes all over the house, my make up bag raids, hair bows and elastics... sighs... bring on the Tonka trucks and biker baby boy clothes!!! I'M READY!!!
I am VERY new to forums. (This is my first attempt!) I just had my ER yesterday at FCNE. I have to say that everything about them has been wonderful. We are hoping to have PGD. My last cycles were at Baystate Medical Center. Even though I have to drive 2 hrs, I am glad we decided to go with FCNE
Hi tinksmagic :o) I live in Keene, NH, so pretty far from Reading, MA - although we will surely make the drive if we find that that clinic yields the best results. Yes, I'm dealing a bit with GD, but am slowly getting excited for DS3 - getting all the baby clothes ready and buying new bedding has definitely helped :o) I think it's more the comments that I get that are really starting to bother me but I just have to grin and bear it. After all, they are MY kids and I will love them know matter what their gender! I hope to add a daughter to the bunch after this one and then we would be done :o) I'm just worried about the toll it will take on me emotionally (how are you holding up?) and on our wallets?! If you wouldn't mind sharing, would you let me know how much money is involved per cycle? I would love to wrap my head around the idea of spending so much money way in advance! Many thanks for your post - and I look forward to chatting more! Hugs to you!
Hello Ladies!
First of all, welcome needalittlepink! Wow, you have most likely already had your ET - how did it go?? I want to hear all about it! Hoping everything went as smooth as can be!
Wantingatutu - I am pretty lucky because insurance is covering the IVF portion of things. And I believe that my meds are covered too - I will find out soon because Tammy is ordereing them in the next couple of days. I think paying for an IVF bundle is a smart thing if your insurance DOES NOT cover IVF. They say it could take a couple of cycles for it to work and it would be nice knowing that if the first one fails you get another try. That's a great question to ask in the private forum - these girls who have been through it already have tons and tons of knowledge on all this stuff!!! I will tell you that for the PGD portion of things, I had to send FCNE a check for $2,250 and another check to Reprogenetics (the PGD lab) for $1700. Hope that helps a little honey!
Tinksmagic, did you work things out with your insurance company?? When do you think you will be able to start your cycle?? I take my last BCP on the 11th and then get AF and then it's go time. . . . getting very excited and scared all at the same time!!!
Hi Tickled - Thanks for your message :o) Glad to hear things are going well so far! And thanks for the information about insurance, cost, etc. Just wondering how you figured out that your insurance would pay for IVF? Wondering if it will be a problem to get it covered because it isn't for medical reasons. And do you have to send the $2,250 + $1,700 for each cycle? I'm thinking that's how it works, correct? I'm so excited for you! Hoping the first time around works out great! And regarding the "private forum" - I'm so new to this, I'm not sure what you are talking about - could you let me know how to get to the private forum? Thanks!
Welcome Needa!
I'm still appealing my insurance company. I have to call Tammy later today to get things going. I got my initial amounts (approx) ICSI $1500, PGD $3100 (full 24 panel), IVF and meds are 100% covered by my insurance. I don't know yet what Ericsson will cost, need to call Lewiston.
I'm getting my blood checked again after being on Levoxyl for a month. My TSH needs to come down a bit. I am in the process of seeing an Endo to get a full panel done before I commit to another cycle. My daughters are both having issues, my oldest upped her Levoxyl and my middle despite a normal TSH is high free T4, so I want to get a clean bill across the board. Other than that, I'm still keeping on my path. That and I wanted to make sure the Clomid is fully out of my system.
I will admit part of me is kinda pushing it out because I'm scared to try again and lose them. This will be our most expensive option, but the best one. The good news is, microflare is getting fantastic results and that's awesome news!!!
heading out, will post more later today after talking with Tammy. Good luck TP, 2 more days!!! WHoo hoo!
Wanting - I looked at my insurance plan online and then called. I was nervous to call because I didn't necessarily have an infertility problem but I just asked what was covered when it came to infertlity and they were really nice and didn't ask any questions. You will get the most information if you just call, you don't have to give them any personal information so don't worry! And if you have embies that are frozen from your first cycle then you won't have to pay the PGD fee each cycle but if you have to do PGD a second time then yes, you will have to pay those fees again.
Tinks - what is microflare?? I am getting nervous that I might not be doing the right PGD protocol. Dr. Weiss signed me up for FISH 3 probe (X,Y and 21). I just kind of went along with it since I don't really know bout all of this stuff. I am wondering if I should be doing the full 24 chromosome panel - but then does that mean that I will have to do a FET? Maybe I will call Tammy next week and get her advice. It looks like you are on the right path Tinks and it's a good idea to not rush into anything.
Ok, my last BCP is tonight and then we just wait for AF to come!!
Wanting - just click the link at the top of the page "Become A Dream Member" - it's a $12 fee, then you can have access to the private forum where there is tons more info!!
TP ~ how's things progressing?
We're doing the full 24 panel only because we've done the 5 panel twice now and both ended in m/c. I requested the full 24. I wanted to do the full 24 last time, but BIVF was unwilling to use Natera (again, they did everything to piss me off...). I'm doing the microflare as we did a normal lupron the first cycle, and an aggressive the second and there was no difference in the amount of eggs I got. From what I'm reading on other forums, microflare has been working for a ton of women and almost all are pregnant now.\
I did just have a full blood work panel done, I'll have results tomorrow (Tues). I've been on the lovoxyl for a month now, but FCNE couldn't retest my TSH, so I had to go to my PCP who is testing it all!!! I'm not going to cycle until I'm 100% confident I'm OK. I did add a few more supplements to my mix as well, to start boosting. Added to hubby's too (again to start boosting!)
Hey Tinks, I have been meaning to catch up with you to let you know how things went with me and see how you are doing! As you probably saw in my signature, I only ended up with 7 eggs, 4 mature and 3 fertilitzed. Such a bummer! My AFC was pretty low and I'm thinking I wasn't on the right protocol. I am wondering if microflare would work better for me, need to have a sit down with Dr. Weiss to discuss everything. He seems pretty set on me doing the FISH 3 probe for PGD, don't you think that with my previous losses and my age that I would benefit from 5 day aCGH? I didn't know that he offered Natera, how did you get him to to that?? Fill me in, fill me in!!!!
Sorry about your insurance being a big pain in the ars - that sucks! You are being so good and patient by waiting to make sure that you are 100% ready to cycle. How did your last full bw panel come out?? Maybe we will end up cycling around the same time now that I have to move on to cycle #2. Good luck to us both!!
Full panel came back awesome!!! No other autoimmunes, just borderline hypothryoid. The levoxyl dropped me from 2.97 to .963!!! WOW!!! Bummer though I will be on it the rest of my life now :( My ANA is fine as is my other levels, TPO went from 29.4 to 18.3 so that's dropping too despite the antibodies present. Neither dr. thinks it will be an issue, so I'm good to go!!
I just found out today my employer is changing insurance offerings. It's Dec 4, we're supposed to have open enrollment done by the 5th!! Grrr, they're so not on top to things, going to call today. If I have to change (for the better!!!) I'm stuck waiting til Feb now. If not, next month is our go.
I basically laid out to Dr. Weiss what we had been through and how I want/insist on using Natera and he was ok with it. We are doing the microdose flare lupron protocol without menopur (still need to double check that!). We've already twice now done 3 day 5 panel and I again am insisting on 24 full b/c of the last 2 miscarriages. Trisomy 10 got one of my sons, we never tested that, who would?? It's so rare, but we need to know all of them now since we've had random chromosomal abnormalities all over the place.
Keep in touch, I'm being kicked out of work for the day, lol, going home to sleep!!!
I'm sorry you only got 3, I'm fearing that myself. When do you start again?
Hi Tinks and Tickled, I've been checking in on this page to see how things are going with you both but see that you haven't posted in a while. Hope everything is okay! Would love to see how you both have made out with your transfers, etc. Happy New Year to both of you and hope to hear from you both soon!
Well hey there wantingatutu!! So sweet of you to check in! I had my ER back in November and got 7 eggs but only 4 matured and 3 fertilized, such a bummer. It just wasn't enough for me to go through with PGD so I batched those 3 embies to add to my next cycle which I will be doing in the beginning of Feb. My dr. is putting me on a different protocol - he said he started me out on a pretty non-aggressive protocol for the first cycle since I am on the smaller side (5 feet, 100 pounds - my parents are tiny, lol) - kind of wish he would have looked at my age and pretesting scores instead but at least we now know that I need MORE meds to stimulate those follicles!
It was nice having time off during the holidays not to think about all of this stuff. I feel like I have a long road ahead of me, wish it wasn't so tough to get my little girl. Just trying my best to stay positive that this next protocol will work better for me and I will get that happy ending that we all want so badly!!
How are you doing? How is the GD going with DS#3?? Hope it's getting better. When is he due?? Pretty exciting that there will be another baby in your home pretty soon.
Hey Tinks, how are you - what's going on in your IVF/PGD world??!!!
Well, I thought I would check in here to see if anyone was was in the same boat as me.... Looks like it. My retrieval was disappointing. 7 retrieved, 6 mature, but only 2 made it to day 3... Decided to freeze and try for some more. Had a good break over the holidays, and now...my retrieval is tomorrow! So nervous ( only 9 total follicles seen on us)
Hi needalittlepink! Oh wow, your ER is tomorrow - I wish you the best of luck!!! You can still get a good amount of eggs from 9 follicles, crossing my fingers that you will be pleasantly surprised tomorrow. Are you seeing Dr. Weiss? Did they do anything different with your protocol this cycle? You will definitely have to keep me updated in the next few days on how things are going for you!!
Good luck tomorrow, can't wait to hear back from you!!
Dr Weiss did my retrieval. Dr Vitiello is "my" dr though. Well, I got disappointing news this morning. 8 eggs retrieved, 5 mature, and 4 fertilized.... Now the long wait till Friday to see what they look like. I have 2 that made it to day 3 last time(grade2+3). And I drove from Reading to Springfield and back to reading and brought one embryo I had in storage there from 2006, to add to pgd.
I am so nervous. Have you started a new cycle?
You got almost exactly what I got my last cycle in regards to eggs and how many fertilized, ugh. Just hoping and praying that your 4 embryos make it to day 3 and then when you add the other 3, you can still have a nice chance of getting your little girl. You will have to keep me updated, I will definitely be thinking of you.
Yes, I am starting a new cycle here soon. I take my last BCP this Saturday and then wait for AF and then start stims. I have 3 embies on ice but have no clue of what their grade is and if they will even make the thaw to go to PGD. I am so nervous too - just nervous that I won't get enough to at least give me a chance.
What protocol were you on this cycle? I am hoping that my change in protocol will give me a few more eggs this cycle but we shall see. I will sure keep my fingers crossed for you that you get good news on Friday. It just takes one . . . your healthy girl could very well be in there!!!:fx:
We used the micro flare protocol this time. Results were the same though.... I hope you have better luck! I am thinking about the possibility of trying another stim cycle before having the embryios tested. I was hoping to have better quality embryios to test and more of them :)
I am waiting for a the call to see what the lab has to say ...
Yep, that's the protocol they are going to try with me this time. Oh lord, not sure what I am getting myself into. I am trying so hard to stay positive but I just feel like I am going to get the same results as last time - I am so hesitant to get started again.
Let me know what the lab says tomorrow, I will be thinking of you - hoping they have some kind of good news for you!! Please please keep me posted!!
Well, disappointing news, only 2 embryos.....will freeze and try, try again.....
So sorry about your result. What a disappointment. Best of luck with your next cycle. Are you on DHEA?Quote:
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So sorry needalittlepink. I know how disappointing it is to get the "not so good" news. I'm so glad that you are going to keep on trying though. I was going to ask you the same thing as vicky - are you on DHEA? I know FCNE doesn't necessarily prescribe it to their patients but when I asked Dr. Weiss about me taking it, he was all for it. Something to think about - I have seen some great results in many girls on this forum when they take DHEA for a few months before cycling again - more follicles, better egg quality, etc. I don't know, doesn't always work for everyone but I guess it's always worth a try. Sorry again about your ER outcome, keep in touch!!!