TTC Blue Crew Grads

Thanks for all the replies about your eating habits. I have had some nausea, so I am not eating as much as I was. Everything taste so blah...except the whole bowl of guacamole DH made last night with chips...mmmm. I didn't get really bad m/s with my DSs or DD3, so I am hoping I just stick with the nausea.

B:You have such such a wonderful Hubby!!! I am sure it would be much harder without a solid rock like him.

Spicy: Very well put!!! I have people comment all the time about how I need to even out and have some more boys, but if we have another healthy girl, I will be just as happy. My girls are wonderful people and I would love to have another. They are the ones that are close to their parents when they get older and help with food on all the holidays and you can enjoy mother daughter outings like shopping and tea. (trust me I have all brothers and I am waayyyyy closer to may parents). There are great things about boys too, but those are some good ones about the girls.

Cheeky: Congrats on the healthy baby, I hope you post some pics after your next scan.

B- loving that you woke up feeling good. You couldn't be more right, what's in her diaper is not who she is. DD2's favorite toys as a baby were cars, she is absolutely fearless and if there's a tree around she will climb it. My oldest rode a mechanical bull the other day, in a skirt I might add. DD3 tackled a 7yr old while playing flag football the other day and didn't mess up her pigtails lol Girls rock and I wouldn't trade any of them for all the sons in the world. Keep focusing on your family and I promise you'll discover it's perfect :)

Wp- as my midwife always told me in the first trimester. Eat what you can not what you think you should, a belly full of twinkies is better then barfing up broccoli. Make the best choices you can but at the end of the day getting any calories is most important.

Mmmmm, guac. I love guac WP and that is something you should feel semi-good about giving that fetus :) Healthy fats and all. Chips not so much but hey, guac needs a vehicle, as does queso ... and nothing else works as well so what's a gal to do? FX no morning sickness hits you!

Jen LOL about the belly full of twinkies vs barfing up broccoli! YUCK! But twinkies sound kind of good now ...or those chocolate cupcakes with the swirly thing on top.

Spicy I was thinking about you today as my girls were playing so well together outside. 2 girls is a LOT of fun. Who knows what your next 2 babies will be (I think you've said 4 is the plan) but 2 DD is a really great start IMO.

Anyhow, today really continued to be a good day and I had a LOT of opportunity for it not to be, so I'm happy about that. My dentist today was all "try for a boy this time?" and I just said "Happy to have a third baby, whatever it might be." And I meant it. Then he said "Well, in my opinion, you should have a 4th either way." He has 4 and loves it. But I was kinda laughing inside thinking about if they only knew all the things I tried to have a boy :rofl: It's darn funny when you think about it.

But after THAT it got worse because I ran into a mom at preschool who had 2 girls, waited to find out til birth (unless she's a liar like me :cool:) and wound up with .. of course ... a son. That one was harder but not really bad. I told her congrats on the healthy baby and didn't make a big deal out of it being a boy ... I know if we did have a boy after our girls I wouldn't want people making a big deal out of it, as though the girls weren't somehow as awesome, KWIM? I was really surprised that interaction didn't hurt more. Maybe it will bite me later though, who knows. It was a stinkin' cute baby that's for darn sure.

I think I've come up with a name I love so that's a plus too! But I tend to waver so we'll see what we actually end up with :bigsmile:

hi everyone! just checking in. not much report just being barely pregnant...but pregnant! wahoooo. feeling great so far..hope it continues! congrats on another girl too!

Damn you B now I want a cupcake lol So happy for your good day :)

Tink- glad to hear all is well, for now anyway lol fx this ones's easy on you :)

Really needing some support today! I know that you all have encouraged me to not be so dependent on my nub, but I know the theory well, and am confident what I saw- so I assume I am having DD2.

I don't necessarily care that I am having DD2, most of my GD comes from my dh's desire to have a ds. He isn't harsh about it at all, and loves his girls, but today I was encouraging him to let go of his 'imaginary son'. He had never thought about it, but this made sense to him. He longs for this 'imaginary son'- and realises, that yes, he is perfect. He is driven, smart, athletic, etc. I also got him to confess that he does 'covet' other boy families when he sees them in town.

It really robbed me of my joy again. I just want him to be happy- he asked if I would be disappointed if I had 'ds2' this time, and I don't think I would, bc I know that he would LOVE that. Ugh.

I also need some advice on the next sway. Should I go for IG style again or try TW. I will say, that both dh and I lost weight IG style- me only 2 pounds, him 15! TW would be wayyyy more manageable, but I don't know if IG failed because of bad luck or if it wasn't working for my body. Thoughts?

Well if you are definately happy to be trying again then that gives you plenty of time to be watching all sway outcomes and see if you see any patterns:agree: You will be able to see if the blue swayers who choose +clac/mag over ig's -calc/mag do any better or the same?! Or if theres any weight gain pattern, timing pattern, head spin pattern lol, you see what I mean though! Really you've got a possible gorgeous bonus pink baby, before your string of boys, best of both worlds! I'll be here obsessing over patterns with you as I suspect I've a few babes left in me for a while lol :bigsmile:

Spicy - I agree with ELP. If you go for #3 there will be a lot of stats on TW and IG attemps when that time comes. Maybe you wont even need it!

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I'll be here obsessing over patterns with you as I suspect I've a few babes left in me for a while lol :bigsmile:

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Go girl!!!

I WILL be needing company though Foxy, how many can I count you in for??:rofl:

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Well if you are definately happy to be trying again then that gives you plenty of time to be watching all sway outcomes and see if you see any patterns:agree: You will be able to see if the blue swayers who choose +clac/mag over ig's -calc/mag do any better or the same?! Or if theres any weight gain pattern, timing pattern, head spin pattern lol, you see what I mean though! Really you've got a possible gorgeous bonus pink baby, before your string of boys, best of both worlds! I'll be here obsessing over patterns with you as I suspect I've a few babes left in me for a while lol :bigsmile:

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Definitely going for no 3 no matter what! Probably no 4. Always wanted at least 3-4- regardless of boy or girl. :)

Are we going to make this a little competition C? :rofl:

Hugs Spicy! FWIW, DH and I were like you and your DH but roles reversed ... while he sure would have loved for 1 of our 3 to be a boy, it wasn't some kind of life-long dream. He never really thought about it much so he's just been happy to have our kids, who happen to be girls. I on the other hand had visions of boys, lots of them, and so I .. like your DH ... "coveted" those boy families, and REALLY had to let go of the imaginary son. He was SO real in my mind that I had pretty much convinced myself that it was going to happen for #3, regardless of whether I swayed, if that makes sense. I just saw me with a son so clearly I was sure it was "real" and destined. Clearly not the case at all. And it has taken me three solid weeks to get to a place where I am fully accepting of that and OK with it, so my suggestion is for you to just keep giving him time. He'll get there I bet. Especially when DD2 arrives and just "fits" in your family in a hole he didn't even know was there. I think you've mentioned he grew up with brothers? So perhaps once he sees that his DD1 gets to have that same-gender bond too he'll really see why DD2 arrived. AND ... how great is it that you'll get 2 more shots at this?!? Who knows, could be DS1 and DS2.

Re: letting him sink your ship a bit, do your best to stay in high spirits for him. Try to lift him up instead of letting him bring you down. I can't believe how incredibly great my DH was at doing just that; I'm not sure I could have been there for him the way he was for me. Instead of crying with me about this son we never had, he gently reminded me that what we have instead is 2 awesome (soon to be 3) DD's and he wouldn't change it for the world. If YOU appreciate it, he'll get there. It's a great situation to be in when both parents are NOT having GD because you really can help the other.

On the swaying, I think reading other sways CAN be helpful. But I kind of also think it's just so hard to know. I mean, reading your last sway it's not like you *missed* a letter off a secret code and that's what you need to fix, KWIM? Bear in mind there is a big fat luck component here. There are ladies who did far less (or nothing) and got boys, and ladies who did it *textbook* and got DD. So ... I would focus on reading the research behind TW/IG (reading them again, I'm sure you have read them already) and continue reading any new studies that come up, because all of those are going to have larger samples than just GD/IG can come up with. The reason I did most of what I did was not because of other people's sways, because honestly ... it isn't one size fits all unfortunately ... I made my plan based on the studies. The Oxford study in particular was fascinating to me and I believe the researcher is doing a follow up so hopefully that will be completed in time for you to gain something out of it.

Personally I'm not sure if I'd sway again. I think IF (and that's a big ol' IF) we decided to have #4 I'd take what God gives me with a smile on my face. I couldn't possibly change more than I changed this time. Really, everything about my lifestyle and diet (and DH's too) and even our sex life was different than when we had DD1/DD2, and it still got us DD3. I do think swaying "works" in that it bumps your odds, I'm not down on swaying at all. Even before mine "Failed" I would have said there's no guarantee, KWIM? All you can do is what your gut tells you is good for you guys, and the rest you have to leave up to the big ol' booger of chance! Or as I've chosen to believe ...God's plan all along. If all I did wasn't enough, I'm darned sure this little lady was headed into our arms from long before I even dreamt of TTC again.

I hope DH comes around sooner rather than later! I really can't believe how kind mine has been with me. And I'm sure I'm not done with it yet, but I'm definitely having more good days than bad this week. I mean seriously at first I was ticked we even got pregnant again, so at least I'm back to being glad to have another baby :) He'll get there! Keep on being gentle with him and he will be thrilled to have her, you all will!

Thanks B! I just want to reiterate that my DH is awesome! He is loving and supportive, but when I prodded him with crying pg hormones, he did talk about what he pictured for his life- at least some sons (mostly because he is a brother of many boys). I really had to push him and I feel like I put him in a corner to answer.

We were just discussing how dd is like him. She went down a big girl slide today- she is about 18 months and flew like a rocket and landed on her butt. I would have thought she would be afraid to go again, but she went right back up. He loves that about her- and that is so his personality. Not mine at all!

I have read all of the studies, and I know the Oxford one well. The key thing with the Oxford one- wasn't so much what they were eating, but the number of overall calories, which I was getting waaaayyy above my norm-2300 or so, compared to my 1500-1800. I am leaning towards TW bc it is easier to do and frankly not so crazy and healthier, but need to see some more stats. I did read some reviews about the flaws of the data from the Oxford study too- I work in a science research setting I have access to every journal.

Another thought though- I had so much ewcm after starting the diet, I could knit sweaters with it. I know that my environment was so different for this dc than dd. I might have just been the unlucky one with a good sway (like you). We might have been the 30% in the 70% effectiveness of our diet to get a dd. Only so much you can do! :)

Spicy, ITA about seeing DH in your DD's ... for heavens sake DD1 is like a pretty version of DH, LOL. Even people who don't know my DH say "she must look like her daddy" because she looks nothing like me. Behavior wise though she's mine, but DD2?!? That girl looks like me (eerily so) but acts just like her daddy. She's a handful. And she's the one who adores him most; they are going to have a LOT of adventures together in life I am sure :)

I see what you're saying about his preference... my DH only had one when pressed too. It wasn't until I was REALLY pressuring him about "are you SURE you're fine with potentially never having a son" that he was like, "well, yes, I can't say I wouldn't love a little guy." And I did feel bad about it. I would have absolutely loved to give him a birth-surprise DS, it would have been pure magic. But I gotta quit thinking about it! Really not a good place for me to go!

I'm with you on seeing so many changes in myself that I KNOW for a fact my sway "worked" in the sense that it changed my hormone levels, my physical muscle/fat balance, etc. It definitely changed me. Just not enough I guess ... I mean realistically like you mention, we might have gotten ourselves 70% boy/30% girl ... but still fall in the 30%. And I guess that's where I'm not sure I'd sway again. I'd probably be devastated to fall in the 30% again and that's why I just don't think I'd sway. I think I'd need to take it as being out of my control, because trying to control it is part of what got me so upset, I think. But everyone reacts differently to that and I see the perspective of "at least I tried!" but that's not how I felt, so for me personally, swaying is probably not part of my future.

IF we have 4! I don't know how y'all do it, ELP and Foxy! Spicy did you grow up with a lot of siblings? I just had one and we're not very close. But I do like the idea of 4 as opposed to 3 because then there's no true middle. I like even numbers. But then I'm like ... FOUR kids?!?! I don't know if DH could get on board with it for real; in theory he says yes, but I think when it comes time to really think about TTC it'll be less likely to go along with it. And I'd have to narrow the gap with #3 and #4 since I'll be almost 34 when this bean is born, my first three will all be about 3 years from one another; #3 and #4 would have to be a less than two year gap. And I'd have to think long and hard about whether I could accept a 4th daughter ... I'm sure I'd have a hard time like I did this time, but if I can get over it this time (and I know I can) I guess I could get over it again :)

Yep- our Dh's sound awesome!

I grew up with an older bro- a pigeon pair, and we are not close. I desperately remember wanting someone to talk to about my bad day, bullies, life, but I just didn't have that. I didn't really have it in my father or mother too. Maybe if I had a more maternal mom, it could have been like that, but it just isn't who she is- and that is OK. I appreciate her now. I am way more relational than my mom- so hopefully DD(s) cane come to me.

I think for that reason, with pp- the grass is not always greener. It would have been great to have a sister. I think bigger families tend to be closer, and more exciting to come home to in the holidays. I know some might disagree- and it does depend on the parents and how intentional they are, but for me, I know having 3 or 4 kids will be hard energy-wise, mess-wise, and financially, but I think in the long run, I will really be thankful I did. I mean Foxy and ELP still want more kids- I think they get it! I would love for them to chime in!

As for swaying, I don't blame it at all. There isn't anything I can look back on as really destroying our chance. I think for me, in that sense, I don't mind swaying again. I just want to sway in a way it works! :)

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Yep- our Dh's sound awesome!

I grew up with an older bro- a pigeon pair, and we are not close. I desperately remember wanting someone to talk to about my bad day, bullies, life, but I just didn't have that. I didn't really have it in my father or mother too. Maybe if I had a more maternal mom, it could have been like that, but it just isn't who she is- and that is OK. I appreciate her now. I am way more relational than my mom- so hopefully DD(s) cane come to me.

I think for that reason, with pp- the grass is not always greener. It would have been great to have a sister. I think bigger families tend to be closer, and more exciting to come home to in the holidays. I know some might disagree- and it does depend on the parents and how intentional they are, but for me, I know having 3 or 4 kids will be hard energy-wise, mess-wise, and financially, but I think in the long run, I will really be thankful I did. I mean Foxy and ELP still want more kids- I think they get it! I would love for them to chime in!

As for swaying, I don't blame it at all. There isn't anything I can look back on as really destroying our chance. I think for me, in that sense, I don't mind swaying again. I just want to sway in a way it works! :)

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Spicy I grew up in a similar way! My brother is 3 years older than me and we've really never been close; but our family was very fractured to being with (parents divorced when I was so little I don't remember them being married) so we weren't raised to be a close fam. My mom has herself together now but was a hot mess when I was a kid. DH however grew up pretty storybook and while he was one of 2 kids, his mom was one of 6 and dad one of 10, and I LOVE the idea of the bigger families.

ITA the grass isn't greener ... once she got here and particularly in the last year, DD1 and DD2 are such buddies that I am thrilled to think about them having one another for the rest of their lives. I think it isn't impossible for pigeon pairs or bro/sis from larger families to be tight, but I do think same gender siblings can share experiences in life that different genders can't. So I really am happy for them to have one another. And I hope that DD3 fits right in and they can all be tight, but I do worry about the triangulation of the relationships and how that will work out. Which is why I think sometimes we should just do 4, LOL! But I really don't think DH will go there... but we'll see :) I know his mom and dad will be on my side :rofl:

Spicy- sorry to hear it looks likely to be a girl :) I know how you feel :) I think I am with begonia in that for me it was hard to accept that in doing everything it still didn't work so don't think i would sway again even if no.4 was going to happen- which is just isn't for us. But i def think you will love to have two DD's mine just love each other:) and i hope that your next is a boy.

AFM- I have checked in on the news for the last week but haven't been posting as i have been trying to make peace with the little girl who is on her way to us. I am focusing on the positives but def find it hard when out and seeing others with a mixed gender bunch of kids...or THE worst ones the PP's! I find that soo hard that they can get one of each from two kids and I can't manage it for 3 kids AND with swaying. :(
I also think the abstolute worst though is the lady across the road has a daughter who is a druggy and just had her second- a boy:( and she doesn't even look after her first ( a girl) who is one...that just seems so unfair as she probably won't even look after the poor little thing anyway and she probably didn't want to get pregnant anyway.....

For all those still to find out i wish you the best I really think everyone should get there DG!

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I am focusing on the positives but def find it hard when out and seeing others with a mixed gender bunch of kids...or THE worst ones the PP's! I find that soo hard that they can get one of each from two kids and I can't manage it for 3 kids AND with swaying. :(

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Cheeky ITA with this! I'm like, SERIOUSLY!??! I tried SO hard and STILL got 3 girls?!? Saturday I was getting donuts with DD2, and the lady in line in front of me was just chatting and came out she had teenagers who were GGB, the B being an accident... and she was like "Oh I still remember when DH found out it was a boy!" and I about wanted to cry knowing we don't get that moment, or that experience of a son.

Overall I am doing sooooo much better but I can honestly say some things, like that convo, will probably always be a bit of a stab in my heart, even after DD3 is here and wonderful and precious. We are IMO just going to have to learn to live with this being a part of our life where we didn't get what we wanted and I don't know that it will ever be easy. I keep trying to think that 3 of a kind is special in its own way. And it is. I want my DD's to grow up and as adults say growing up with 2 sisters was the best thing ever; that would make my own personal bit of pain about never having a son seem inconsequential, so that's going to be my goal .... for them to think their family make-up is perfect, and if I want them to think that I know I have to get to where I believe it too. Definitely working on it! HUGS to you, happy to see you but also totally understand why you've kept distance.

Spicy, are you going to have another scan to confirm for sure?

B, sooo glad you feeling better!! I am, just living with the fact that i'm not going to have a son & nothing i can do about it so why stress. You know the other day i was thinking about the money i spent on swaying, crazy..nevermind.

Oh i was going to say i read your post on TTC boy thread about Ramziz, my bub & my cousin's girlfriend looked the same & she's had a boy so NO i dont believe Ramziz. The one i've noticed is my baby's sitting on the left & so was DD2 so i dont know if boys sit on the right maybe 3P1B can answer that. I also noticed that hair growth on my legs has reduced since 20wks

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Spicy, are you going to have another scan to confirm for sure?

B, sooo glad you feeling better!! I am, just living with the fact that i'm not going to have a son & nothing i can do about it so why stress. You know the other day i was thinking about the money i spent on swaying, crazy..nevermind.

Oh i was going to say i read your post on TTC boy thread about Ramziz, my bub & my cousin's girlfriend looked the same & she's had a boy so NO i dont believe Ramziz. The one i've noticed is my baby's sitting on the left & so was DD2 so i dont know if boys sit on the right maybe 3P1B can answer that. I also noticed that hair growth on my legs has reduced since 20wks

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For sure, I just am preparing myself for the inevitable. There could always be a surprise. "Girl" nubs can be a boy too. Listen to me..

For Ramzi- baby was on the right (or left side of screen), so whatever to that theory!

Well you never know, could be boy so lets wait & see. When do you go for the scan? According to Ramziz & where you say your baby is then Ramziz says girl but who knows

Sorry- no, according to Ramzi, it is boy. I may be getting it mixed up because it was at 6 weeks, but whatever it was, it was boy.

Oh ok i get you now, yes that's boy then

Babydes- how many dds do you have? I don't remember your family makeup..

This will be my 3rd one. When did you say you go for your 20wk scan?

So, you have been confirmed DD? Mine is in mid November.

Baby, what you said about living without a son and there's nothing you can do about it so why stress ... that's a pretty great, logical attitude. I mean, you're totally right, it's not like all the wishing in the world can change it at this point so what's the point in obsessing. In general I'm not really sad about it anymore, but also I don't really see anything great about having a third girl.... I am excited to have a third child, though. So it'll all work out in time. Part of me still just can't believe this is for real! All the months of prep and hope and now it's over, and it's a girl.

With Ramzi it isn't where the baby is, it's where the placenta is developing ... they can be the same place but often aren't. Your placenta is typically the brightest white part wrapping around the uterus in the image. In mine my baby was tucked right smack in the bottom center but my placenta was on my right (left in screen/pic) and my doc confirmed that ... so for me, definitely not correct. And I *think* 3P1B said hers was on her left, which should have been girl, but obviously she's got pictures to prove it's a boy :) So I don't believe in Ramzi at all!

How're the rest of our blue crew? ELP finds out for sure on the 25th I think. Foxy when do you find out? I have my anatomy scan on the 24th, we'll see if the baby grew a penis in the last 5 weeks :rofl: We aren't finding out though; I don't want to have to tell people it's another girl without a precious baby in my arms. My good friends will be awesome about it but there are plenty of acquaintances who will say things that are unintentionally hurtful, I'm sure. I feel like an all boy family is much more socially acceptable than all girls :(

Yes- for me placenta and fetus were the same at 6 weeks, obviously. And Begonia, I think most people in America would prefer all girls than all boys. Trust me on this one. Apparently, there is an article about 2 girls being the ideal setting. Google it!

I saw the 2 girls article! I liked it :) I posted a thread on here asking people what they like about being part of or raising a large family and that has helped me to read too ... I wanted three kids for reasons other than gender and I have to keep reminding myself that it is going to be absolutely magical (and absolutely crazy frustrating at times!) and reading other people's stories helps.

Last night DH and I were talking about all of this again, the maybe it's another girl thing, and he's OK with the fact that I still will probably want a son... and OK with the fact that means we might have 4 kids, even if he never ever saw our family with 4. We're just going to take it month by month when the new one arrives and see how 3 feels; in my most honest heart of hearts, I genuinely hope we feel complete with the 3 little ladies. But it's nice to know that if I still feel like we're missing a son, DH will be supportive of trying to make that happen somehow. Sometimes I can't believe how lucky I am to have married someone who's so darn nice to me :)

Spicy I can't help it but I'm still holding out hope for you. I think you're smart to go ahead and have started believing it's girl #2, but still ... until your scan in mid-November, I'm keeping my FX you hear blue. 2 girls is fab though and I still think it would be great to have them back-to-back, but I'd love for you to go ahead and have a DS now so you don't feel as much pressure going for a DS next. FX!

Well- right now I am babysitting my friends 10 week girl, and she is a doll. Love her, so happy to imagine this as our family. But my toddler is going nuts- she had a very crappy shortened nap (Dad of baby woke her up when coming in) so I am trying to cope without just giving into her candy and tv wants. We are currently watching a short clip. Baby is sleeping- so I don't have anexcuse except that she will try to go wake the baby in the other room. I think her behaviour is part toddler part crap nap part new baby in the house. :)

I am not holding out for boy- I saw the nub, but if the nub theory is ever not as reliable as they say it is (94%) then maybe I will have hope. Anyone want to tell me that?

Spicy, I think nub theory is at it's worst on still photos, especially if there is only one pic. I think ELP's first nub scan photos are a prime example of that. BUT ... as she mentioned when she posted them, she SAW a boy nub during the scan. So... and this probably isn't super encouraging, I do think if you're SURE you saw, repeatedly, a flat looking nub during your scan, then you're probably making a very educated guess. It's easy for me to hold out hope since I didn't see it but you know what you saw.

How old is your DD1 again? Mine are 3.5 years apart, this one and DD2 will be 2 years 10 months. I was actually glad this morning that we didn't wait (we had originally planned to try to get pg this fall, instead of back in summer) because IF we have a 4th I can still pop it out before I'm 36.

I didn't see it repeatedly. Probably a total of 10 seconds- DH and I both agree it wasn't 'boyish', but I will say, it looked very penis like- with a large 'round head'. Sorry to be graphic. I do think that I could be wrong, but probably not. Plus I was 13 weeks at the time. Maybe that roundish head part was supposed to be interpreted at the round part that sticks at the top? Who knows. I just know that we will know either way soon.

I have been thinking about my sway- not blaming it at all. I think 'maybe mabye' it failed because I lost 2 pounds. I have no idea in the future how to do IG diet without losing weight, so it seems like TW is probably for me next time. I know I can successfully avoid the processed sugar etc. It is expensive, but hopefully, I can just give it a go.

She is 1.5 years. Dollface-love her.

Hey Girls, I just read back and wanted to jump in. So I am the youngest of 3 older brothers. SO naturally I thought i would have boys for sure. When we found out we had DD on the way we were both so excited. We want 3 kids so we will got for another after this even its a boy. My mom knows about the swaying and I asked her if she remembered how she ate and lived when she got pregnant with all 3 of my brothers. She had some interesting things to say. She was married to my biological father who I almost never speak of and no one in my life knows about him, anyway, she said she cooked all the time and he was a meat and potatoes type of asshole. She said they ate constantly. Lots of salty foods and lots fresh juice. That is the only way he would drink his juice. Anyway fast froward to her getting pregnant with me. She had found out SP (sperm donor is what we call him) or FF for F&$K face, so she found out he was having an affair. She left him when she was pregnant with my youngest brother. He is a very powerful important man so when she left his status was questionable. He begged for her back and said he would end the affair, he never did and is currently married to that homewrecking whore. My mom went back to him and birthed my brother. He got very abusive physically worse then in the previous years. She told me he even hit her while she was pregnant, makes me sick. Good god I despise this man. Anyway, so my brother is a baby and FF is increasingly abusive, my mom says she barely eats at this point. She weighed less then she did after birthing all 3 of my brothers. Her diet became lots of protein, quick healthy foods, not hearty anymore. She was so stressed. Again she leaves him as the abuse gets so unreal and she takes off to california where all her family is. HE is in town and he asks her to go to an event with him. She agrees and says she isn't taking him back. They have this ONE night together and I was made!! I found this to be so wild in terms of gender swaying because in a way my mom had a perfect sway. To this day I will never understand why she went back to him because she is one of the strongest women I know. She tells me "back then" its just what you did. Women didnt take a stand as they do now. But I am oddly thankful because neither me or my brother Matt would be here. And he is my best friend. I am really close with all 3 of my brothers. They are my world. We are all 2 1/2 years to 3 years apart. I couldn't imagine my life without them. I even own a business with the younger 2. My oldest lives out of state which sucks. But he has a successful business there. SO with that my point is not to talk about my moms shit life with this a hole...but I just thought it was cool how she ate the boy diet and girl diet without even knowing. I mean for my diet I did do some things that i shouldnt like I ate some chocolate a week before the attempt. I Couldnt help myself. LOL I dont think i will be so upset if this one is a girl, but maybe more in baby #3. but who knows. I can understand how some of you are upset with wanting something so bad and it not turning out to be what you wanted. I think it's perfectly natural. I am use to getting what I want being the only baby girl. SO this will be interesting if I have all girls. I think I will be happy though because I have a very blessed life. Again I dont know. IM trying to stay positive. Im trying not to get to wrapped up and expect much. Does this make sense?

Anyway. I am feeling like crap. And I am only 5 weeks along. I am stunned, with DD i didnt even know I was pregnant yet and I remember feeling fine.

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She is 1.5 years. Dollface-love her.

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Awwww :) SO sweet. And you know, I'd hold out some hope on that scan. Like I said I think it's great you're prepared to hear girl ... but it's definitely NOT a final answer for you guys yet. There's some hope :) I'll be eagerly awaiting your news!

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Ramzi's, yep B mine was high left but it was at 10wks.

B- I could go on all day about how fun 3 girls is, you're just going to have to trust me on this one :) My cousin has 2 boys and is getting harassed about a girl, I've been getting "3 big sisters! Oh that poor boy" I think no matter what you have people give you crap. Love that both you and dh are open to a fourth, fx you feel complete after dd3 is born.

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I can understand how some of you are upset with wanting something so bad and it not turning out to be what you wanted. I think it's perfectly natural. I am use to getting what I want being the only baby girl. SO this will be interesting if I have all girls. I think I will be happy though because I have a very blessed life. Again I dont know. IM trying to stay positive. Im trying not to get to wrapped up and expect much. Does this make sense?

Anyway. I am feeling like crap. And I am only 5 weeks along. I am stunned, with DD i didnt even know I was pregnant yet and I remember feeling fine.

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Thanks a bunch Tink for sharing! I love hearing how close you are to your brothers, that's super sweet. So sad what your Mama went through, hope she's in a much happier place these days, but yes interesting from a sway perspective.

Anyhow, I will say like you I'm also very much a woman who is used to getting what she wants as an adult! And not because it's handed to me, my childhood sucked. But I'm used to setting goals and taking steps to achieve them and having success. This is quite possibly the only dream I've had for myself that I couldn't make happen and that has definitely made it harder to bear. But really, a son wouldn't make my life better, just different. In all other aspects I too am super blessed, especially because everyone I love is healthy. I rejoice in that for sure :) It's good to keep that at the forefront of my mind and I think you're smart to try to focus on that for now instead of getting wrapped up in gender. I have no doubt you'll weather a second DD just fine, but I sincerely hope you get your DS this time around! If not it is nice to know you'll have another shot. My GD with DD2 was much easier than this one has been bc I knew we still could try again, and I was happy for DD1 to have a sis.

OH and I was like you with DD1! I didn't know I was pg til I was 8 weeks, and then it was bc I felt like crap, I thought I had the flu! But this time I felt sick very early on, like before I even got the BFP. It sucked! But it got better and was actually not a bad first trimester so I hope you turn a corner and feel better soon!

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Ramzi's, yep B mine was high left but it was at 10wks.

B- I could go on all day about how fun 3 girls is, you're just going to have to trust me on this one :) My cousin has 2 boys and is getting harassed about a girl, I've been getting "3 big sisters! Oh that poor boy" I think no matter what you have people give you crap. Love that both you and dh are open to a fourth, fx you feel complete after dd3 is born.

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Awww, thanks Jen! I keep thinking about the pic you posted of your 3 girls when DD3 was born. Super sweet!

There is a couple who just joined our Sunday school with GGGB, and when the dad was introducing himself and talking about their kids he laughed and said "We have 3 girls and a boy, boy is the youngest. So basically he has 4 mothers." But it was super sweet, not at all the type of thing that made you think "poor boy." Your little man's going to feel so much love from those girls that it's going to set the bar awfully high for girls he dates! Not a bad thing at all!

Tink- dh had 3 brothers and 1 sister. 3 boys born while both parents worked and money was ok, dh's dad left and his mom struggled financially. Dad comes back and she almost immediatly conceives the girl. Both working money ok again and here comes boy #4. I know tons of families like this, it's quite interesting really.

B- I actually kind of fear for him w/dd1, she already thinks she's my second in command lol

"But really, a son wouldn't make my life better, just different.".....This is the best way it can ever be put! honestly. I love this! I think everyone should live by this!