Ok I'll have a little think and maybe leave them out, is it just that cut conception or is there a chance they could potentially sway blue?
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Ok I'll have a little think and maybe leave them out, is it just that cut conception or is there a chance they could potentially sway blue?
They cut conception.
Ok.........so I really feel like I'm driving my self crazy (and probably you) with all the questions, I feel like I know what I'm doing well sort of lol. This will be our 1st attempt this year I'm due to ovulate in just under two weeks so this will be my attempt if all goes well.....
1 attempt at pos opk
I have been put walking most days
Dh has done no exercise due to busy at work
We have both been drinking a lot more alcohol
I have lost a few pound, dh has gained a few pound
He has drastically cut down on protein
He is takkng ole daily
Dh has been using hot tub every other day
Dh is releasing every other day, he has an extremely high sex drive (drive me crazy as I literally have zero sez drive)
Dw folic acid
Dw and dh have started drinking coffee everyday and having no tea at all
Night of attempt dh will release and then go in hot tub for an hour with a vodka and I will have a hot shower and then we will have our attempt with a tiny bit of ky jelly as we usually have to use lube anyway
I will not use repleans or rephresh
I am taking hayfever tablets everyday anyway as I suffer with hayfever
Am I good to go?
Would it be beneficial for me to take cranberry supplements from af to ovulation and also would coq10 help as I have aeen a few ladies taking them?
Thanks atomic
All that is looking great, we believe KY is swaying pink anyway and no need for that + other jellies
Cranberry supplements do nothing and may cause miscarriage or even harm your health when taken AF-O and dropped suddenly, and since they may cause miscarriage when taken into pregnancy you HAVE TO take them in that pattern anyway. Since they have huge potential to harm for no benefit, please do not use them
I only use coq10 for people who have issues with egg quality due to high blood sugar. Otherwise it's considered a blue sway supp and I don't think the average swayer needs to or should take them
Oh wow I didnt realise cranberry can cause harm I wont include them. Ok great so I'll just use Ky jelly and not the other jellies.
Thank you fpr taking the time to reply, I did think about holding off a month and trying to get dh out jogging but hopefully we are doing enough that ot shouldn't be too much of a hige deal as I didnt really want to wait any longer
Hi atomic, I have started to get quite a lot of ewcm amd have noticed line on opk getting slightly darker but still not quite positive yet, I have a feeling my the morning it will be positive so would it be ok to go ahead and bd in the morning or should I wait for the evening? I read somewhere that testorone is higher in the morning I just wondered what your thoughts are on this?
Thank you
Testosterone has never been proven to sway and certainly not those kinds of daily fluctuations. Remember, swaying works because it sends a signal to our bodies about what gender offspring has the best chance of living to adulthood and successfully passing down genes to future generations, and in that paradigm there is no room for a boy at 8am and a boy at 8pm. Either a boy has a better chance than a girl or a girl has a better chance, if that makes sense, and it takes TIME to alter that signal, not just a few hours in the day.
Oh thats good to know, so we ended up bd last night as I had run out of sticks yesterday afternoon and the last one that we tested had a slight line, my sticks arrived this morning and have tested and a slightly darker line but not the darkest should I bd again or just leave it at that?
I have a feeling it will be positive in a few hours or tomorroq morning as the line is getting darker each time
Is it positive though? Positive is as dark or darker than control. Wait for first positive.
NOT just a faint line. Faint lines aren't positive. Only when the test line is as dark or darker than control.
But it doesn't have to be the darkest positive you get. Just the first one.
No it wasnt quite positive but because I ran out of sticks I panicked so we dtd last night, I got some more sticks today and they are still not quite positive but very close so I dont know whether to have anither attempt or leave it at that
Keep testing. If you get a true positive within the next two days, stick with the attempt you had. If it's 4 or more then please have another attempt. If it's in that no man's land of 3 days, either use the rule of thumb "for best chance of pink, stick with the attempt, for better chance conception add an attempt" or flip a coin if you really can't decide.
So I had positive opk and also a positive clear blue at around 4pm today so roughly 43 hrs after my attempt so I'm guessing it best to leave it at that?
I generally recommend sticking with the attempt in this case but it's up to you, just use that rule of thumb "for best chance of pink stick with the attempt I had, for best odds of conception have another attempt"
Hello, unsure of what to do......so I had what i thought was a line on my opk on Sunday evening so we dtd but it seems like the next day and the day after that the line was getting stronger and stronger and even today there is a dark line do you think we bd too early, I'm a little worried that adding another attempt in will lower my chance of having a girl would it be best to just leave it at that and see what happens?
I'd have an attempt today. You are far enough from your previous attempt that it will still be one attempt. Conceiving from that far away is impossible, please have another attempt!
I have just done another opk test and the line has faded quite a bit so does that mean I have already ovulated, I have looked at all the opks together as I took a screen shot of them all and inwould say my darkest line was last night so roughly 48hrs after my bd would you suggest to still have another attempt or chance it and leave it at that for this month?
The rate at which your test goes negative does not tell you if you've ovulated or not. You can have tests that go negative and not have ovulated yet, and tests that are still positive after ovulation. The hormone being measured is not directly tied to ovulation in the way you're thinking of it.
You still need to have another attempt.
Thanks atomic.
So af arrived this morning, I'm so annoyed as we couldnt get that extra attempt in due to have a bad throat infection so we only ended up with 1 attempt 3 days before ovulation, this month I am 100% going to make sure we wait until I can a true positive on ovulation stick, is there anything else that could help do you think maybe dh should avoid hot tubs and also we releases on his own very ofter either every day or every other day should I ask him to cut back on that.......we are both drinking coffee and alcohol that's something I would rather not cut out as that seems to sway he also takes OLE......I think that the reason we didn't conceive is probably that we tried to far before ovulation.
Yes, I'd have him drop hot tubs and extend the amount of time between releases to every 2 days.
I agree that was not a close enough attempt. FX for better chances next month!
Thank you, I'll get him to avoid hot tubs and make sure we do once I get a positive.....is it as soon as I get a line or do I wait for the darkest line? Also is it still ok to use a tiny amount of ky jelly?
Thank you
The first positive. The OPK is positive when the test line is as dark or darker than control.
KY Jelly does cut odds of conception. If you need a lube that doesn't kill sperm you may want to try a very small amount of Preseed or Conceive Plus. Larger amounts may sway blue so please use the barest minimum for comfy intercourse.
I honestly feel like I could give up, dh was keeping on about bd more times as he has a high sex drive I explained that I only want to bd 1 during my fertile window so we agreed to bd earlier in the cycle and then just 1 attempt in fertile window, I usually ovulate day 16/17 so we bd cd10 and cd11 and though that would be ok as then if I bd day 16 that would still be 1 attempt but I just did an ovulation test and it starting to get dark now at 17.30 on CD 12 and now I'm not sure whether to add another attempt this month or not, I really wish I had waited but I felt pressured by dh, I'm really hoping that it's still another couple of darks before i get a true positive and then i can have another attempt but by looking at that I'm wondering if it will go positive tomorrow?
I can't tell you when it will go fully positive. I would just wait for the true positive and have attempt at that point. I suspect it won't be till tomorrow at the soonest, which would put your O Day CD 14. The attempts from CD 10 and 11 would no longer count then.
Ok so I have got my first positive today its 4pm uk time ( I never get a positive opk this esrly in my cycle) and I'm on CD 13 my last 2 bds were cd10 in evening and cd CD 11 in the evening so shall 8 go ahead and have another attempt this evening will it still be only one attempt in my fertile window, amd also should he have a hot bath and a release first just to lower the sperm count or not to worry about all that?
Yes please have an attempt today. I do think it could technically end up being 2 attempts CD 11 and 13, but with a CD 14 or even 15 ovulation your chances of conception would be microscopic without this attempt.
As we already discussed, you need to drop things like hot baths and too frequent releases now.
Thank you we went ahead with our attempt this evening and will just have to wait and see what happenes. Last month I ended up having an attempt 2 days before positive opk and didnt conceive so hopefully it will just work out that its 1 attempt amd like you say its probably unlikely to conceive without todays attempt.....I cant change it now its just typical that this is the only month we had extra bds and I end up ovulatimg early.
Honestly, you guys have been at this for a while (even tho I know you took some time off) it makes sense to have an extra attempt anyway!
Thanks atomic again for all your help, I'm just so annoyed with myself for having those extra attempts and not just waiting for a pos opk I have been working so hard not to do this, I feel like I have blown it but what's done is done i cant change it.
The only things that make me feel slightly better apart fr9my diet is dh diet and lifestyle being completely different to when we had our boys, he drinks so much more, has coffee, hasn't been to the gym in months, has cut down on protein and now has hot showers. Also as I possibly ovulated today CD 14 im hoping that there wasnt much sperm left from CD 10 and 11, and it's just the batch from CD 13
Thank you again for replying, I must be driving you crazy.....I'm ccertainly driving my hubby crazy haha......I had a negative opk this morning and had a few pains yesterday so I'm guessing that means I ovulated yesterday which was CD 14 but I suppose there is no way to know for sure
The rate the OPK go negative do not tell you if you ovulated or not. The OPK just measure the hormone that signals your body TO ovulate, then it releases the egg (and sometimes DOESN'T) on its own timeline. So you can have a positive test after ovulation and a negative test when you haven't ovulated yet. The OPK are not directly tied to ovulation the way people think of it.
O pains can happen before, during, and after ovulation. They also don't tell you when you ovulated unfortunately.
Oh ok that's interesting and actually good to know as there is a possibility that just because my test went negative and had o pains it doesnt necessary mean I 100% ovulated that day maybe there is a possibility that I ovulated the day after which would be even better. I'm just holding onto the fact that my first two attempts nothing was left from that so I only had one attempt as in previous months when I tried 2 days before a pos opk I didnt conceive so hopefully hubby's sperm isnt actually surviving that long these days......its funny as he had super sperm years ago when we conceived our boys, but he didn't drink, ate healthily, didnt drink coffee and constantly worked out, he Iis doing the complete opposite now so maybe its had an affect on his sperm....who knows.
You are full of very useful info Atomic
Sorry just need to vent, just having a down day today and dh doesnt understands at all and thinks I'm over thinking it which I probably am. I have seen loads of successful boy sways with my frequency patterms I could kick myself I have spent months looking and working out this sway and previous months I have had to bd a couple of days before pos opk due to dh work and being away and this was the first month where he wouldnt be going away and I can plan it to a T and have my 1 and only attempy at pos opk but I completely feel I messed it up by bding cd10 and CD11 and the bding on cd13 which was just a few hours before my pos opk, I'm just so annoyed that I bd on cd10 and cd11 I should of just waited.....sorry I know there isnt much to say and what will be will be i just needed to vent.
You can find loads of boy sways with ALL frequency patterns. Please don't take this seriously at all. I think you did the right thing and I would have advised you to do exactly what you did. BTW it is normal to feel very self-critical and anxious right after ovulation so this is very possibly due to hormonal fluctuations!
I’ve just noticed this thread and I wanted to reassure you sassy86 that you did great and you did what you could. If you look into apr/may/June 2021 due date group you will see lots of perfect sways with 1 attempt at positive OPK which ended up being a boy, so just having 1 attempt at positive OPK is no guarantee that it will work! Lots of factors go into each sway. Hang in there! My fingers are crossed for you :) [emoji177]
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