Oh that's good to know - I don't want to resend and the recipient get like a gazillion messages from me LOL thanks!Quote:
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Oh that's good to know - I don't want to resend and the recipient get like a gazillion messages from me LOL thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
3dpo as of today 3rd high temp got cross hairs on my fertility friend app. To be honest I really hope I get my bfp this cycle because if not I'm gonna have to really sway hard for next cycle because I've been cheating more lately, after nearly 10 months of dieting 2 months healthy eating then nearly 8 months of girl swaying diet i don't have the power I use to so I'm getting slack which terrifies me
No no no Kazz - remember, being too strict on diet is what caused your cycle to get wacky anyway. If you feel you're eating too much that's fine, then just be more reasonable moving forward but you DO NOT need to sway extra hard, you do NOT need to make up on diet, just let the past go and move forward. I personally think you need more calories than you were getting and that's why you had delayed O. Don't make the same mistake again, it's not at all necessary.
OK that's good to know, I just feel like I've had some bad days still not my pre sway days but still increased fat sugar an cals but I'll just continue on like you say. I don't know why I've lost my will power or maybe it will come back and I'll stay within limits and avoid sugar again. I just really hope I get my bfp this time so I don't have to worry about my recent cheatsQuote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
We've all found, on diets, that over time our willpower wanes. That's why I have been so (annoyingly) emphatic with not only you but everyone to not cut back too far, so you end up delaying or even temporarily stopping ovulation and making it take much longer to conceive. I don't say these things to be irritating, it's because it really does matter. So please please please please please don't now tell yourself that you need to be super strict. You're just going to end up back at square one. You need to just stay the course, eating more than you were, and if a little sugar sneaks in now and then in order for you to continue being ok on diet most of the time, that's just fine.
I'm just not convinced diet gave me delayed ovulation since these have been my first few cycles back postpartum they can take a couple cycles to get back to being regular. I think my cycles will be more regular moving forward if I have another one that is because I've already had 2 periods postpartum now but really hoping I get no more lol. I won't get super strict i promise. Thanks for the support you give us allQuote:
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I understand that you think that, but I have talked to gobs and gobs of people who were breastfeeding and your cycle was not in the pattern we tend to see with breastfeeding. I can all but 100% say your cycle was disrupted because you were dieting too strictly because I know the pattern it happened in, and that pattern is in line with people who have dieted too strictly and taking supplements they don't necessarily need, like the myoinositol. I am not trying to second guess your opinion, but am trying to help you and I don't want to see you back at square one by overthinking the strictness you need to be approaching your diet. Diet has a cumulative effect over time and it does catch up to people, when their stores are depleted, and then you simply have to relax somewhat or the same problem will continue happening over and over again.
My af hadn't returned before I started sway dieting and it returned while sway dieting. I think things will be fine now anyway because I'm not breastfeeding much at all now.
I know that you think that, and I know that nothing I say will convince you otherwise. But based on many many many many many other people's experiences, including me having read all your posts and replied to them, the disruption you saw in your cycle was 100% based in the diet and not breastfeeding. Your cycle hadn't resumed to start with because it hadn't been long enough postpartum (this varies after each pregnancy) so the fact that your cycle hadn't come back prior to when you started the sway diet means absolutely nothing.
You are absolutely free to do and believe whatever you want, but it is time to stop arguing with me about this. You aren't going to convince me. I have been here every step of the way with you and I know what I saw happen. Again, believe what you want, and do what you want, but do not argue with me any more on this because it is sure coming off to me like you're trying to convince people not to listen to me, which I very much do not appreciate since it does nothing but hurts other people's sways and causes me a massive amount of time expenditure that I do not need to be making.
The truth is that I have to look out for all the people who are currently reading this thread who will (for reasons that I don't really understand) will now take your word as gospel truth and my word as BS, and proceed to do the exact same thing you have just done and put themselves through the stress that you have just experienced, for no reason because all you guys need to do to prevent this from happening is simply eat enough food when you're breastfeeding. It doesn't hurt your sway to eat enough, in fact it's imperative when you're breastfeeding as it's easier to lose ovulation when nursing. What DOES hurt your sway is cutting back too far then having to relax massively - while everyone who is in this boat DOES absolutely need to eat more, it's still best if you don't cut back too far to start with.
You guys, I am begging you to just eat enough, especially when breastfeeding. It is a HUGE reason why people get opposites, is that they cut back too far and mess up ovulation and then have to basically sway blue to get their cycle going again. I am trying to help you here, to help you to have healthy sways and to get pregnant fast without the stress and fear involved in having a delayed or stopped ovulation. I don't want anyone to have to wean in order to get pregnant because it just isn't necessary if you all would just EAT ENOUGH. Everyone believes it won't happen to them, but it DOES happen, it happens constantly, it's one of the biggest problems we face on this site if not THE biggest problem, and please listen to ME rather than to anyone else.
I wasn't meaning it as an argument it mite come across that way in text but I was just clarifying that I hadn't had my cycle return before swaying, I thought you mite I've thought I had got my cycle back before swaying an then swaying to hard and. reducing food to much then stopped my af. I believe my low food intake while breastfeeding could of been the problem in trying to get my cycle back. I'm not reducing or going back to what I was doing before that was because I wasn't counting an once i started counting i realised I was way under what your recommendations are but I wasn't swaying then I was just eating healthy so when I switched I had to start pushing fat pro cals all up and then did get my cycle back somewhere in there so eating more helped. I want people to follow your advice. There's woman right now swaying on here that would say I back you too much lol but i believe in your knowledge an time spent on all this swaying stuff if i didn't i wouldn't of come back for another go after failing my last sway. I believe i can and will get my girl with your help and for that I'm very grateful.
Stick to the limits everyone because you don't want to like atomic said go to low then stop ovulation an you have to go into boy territory just to ovulate again. I completely agree i just happened to also be postpartum an breastfeeding so wasn't sure but I'm sure you know because you've seen it. I've never breastfed this long so have never experienced this.
On another note my doctor prescribed me promethazine for anxiety an sleep is that ok to take while girl swaying?
Hi all!
I am in the 2ww anyone else? I never did get a positive lines this month and didn't have much ewcm.
We did it CD 9,13,14 I normally have a 27-29 day cycle but im not sure this month, this is my first after our loss.
I really am unsure about this cycle but we will see :) I am now CD18. I wont test until we are late.
Wishing you all the best of luck!
Edited to add: Anyone reading this thread in the future who finds my reply here to be bizarre, over the top, or extreme, I refer you to a small sliver of the backstory here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...plus-more.html
For whatever reason, Kazzz, probably because I have no life outside of gender swaying and scrubbing toilets, I can often remember people's posts better than they can themselves. I also take copious notes as I work with people - even in the free forums - so I can keep everyone straight. I'm not infallible but yes, I did actually remember the timeline for your sway and what happened when.
Please stop arguing with me about this. All you're doing is undermining your own sway. I am not going to change my mind about why your cycle was delayed, because I've seen the exact same thing happen to gobs of other people. People who were, in fact, in the exact same situation as you, their cycle had not returned for a while just because of breastfeeding and then it came back and once they started swaying, it went away again.
Matter of fact, I am one of those people, between my 3rd and 4th boy, my cycle came back and then went away, so this is something that I've been tracking for fourteen years and thousands of sways. Many people don't have their cycles come back for a while with nursing even when not doing a sway diet, and those people are absolutely, totally, completely more likely to then see their cycle disrupted again once they start swaying. All these things - diet, exercise, supplements, breastfeeding, your overall weight, and several other things besides work in concert together and so the more of them you do, the more likely your cycle is to get messed up. It is absolutely the case that someone who isn't seeing their cycle come back from breastfeeding when not dieting will be more likely to see disruptions with a sway diet + breastfeeding because they've already got something working against them.
Again, you're welcome to have your opinion, this back and forth needs to stop now. NOW. For the sake of all the people reading this, for your sake so your sway succeeds, and for my sake because I simply don't deserve this business of going over the same thing again and again. I understand you have anxiety and I know it sucks, but I have given you my answer and it's not changing. Any more replies on this matter will be deleted because there is no more thorough of an answer I can give you. I completely know what is going on and have a different opinion than you do. End of story.
Now, if there are these women on here, who think I'm just so full of crap all the time and yet still keep hanging out here, I would suggest they come out of the woodwork. I'm tired of having hints dropped about these mysterious women who seem to be happily using my time and effort and nuthinbutpink's financial and time investment to create this site to begin with, helping the vast majority of people entirely for free, only to be going around badmouthing it all, and lying about our success rates when they're higher than ever.
Anyone?? Anyone??? If you're out there, I'd love to hear from you. Happy to answer all your questions, a lot more politely than I'm being right now, to direct you towards our stats, happy to provide you with names of actual people you can really talk to about whether their sway worked or not. I'm even willing to discuss these things with you privately (email me at atomicsagebrush@gmail.com) if you don't want to do it in public. HOWEVER, I don't want to be getting any more references - either here on the forums or by email, to people talking smack about me. That's part of being online unfortunately and I honestly don't care, but it's not going to make me change my mind any to be told that. No one, no matter how thick of skin they have, likes to hear about people talking about them behind their backs, and so since it won't accomplish making me change my mind, I don't want to hear about it.
Yes, the promethazine is ok for your sway because it's an antihistamine,but it isn't ok in pregnancy. Be sure you are not having both the promethazine and alcohol as they have aa strong interaction together. It seemed to be a bit of a gray area for TTC - did your doc know that you are actively trying right now? And for breastfeeding, it's probably ok but just keep an eye on your baby to make sure he's not being made drowsy from it - and again, do NOT NOT NOT mix it with alcohol.
Treens, just be sure to keep an eye out in case you ovulate later than you expect!! It is very possible, the cycle after a loss, to have a delayed ovulation. You may not have had much EWCM and no double lines because you haven't ovulated yet! So I would definitely be on the lookout and even consider going to e4d so you don 't miss the month if O is late!Quote:
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I love your positivity! So much appreciated, FXFXFX for BFP this month!
Too much added stress for me. I'm only telling you the truth I believe in you and some don't as much as I do and also I'm agreeing with you on the swaying an cycle stuff. This wasn't an to me isn't an argument all a bit shocking. What more do you want from me. I believe you.Quote:
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Good luck treens and everyone else swaying, I'm gonna take a break swaying for 8 months has taken a toll on my mental wellbeing more then I've ever experienced in my life.
Good morning!
We did an extra attempt last night jus in case :)) Thank you for your advice atomic, I really appreciate it!
Kazzz best of luck to you! I think a break would be a good idea. Sometimes the best things happen when you are not planning.
Thanks thats what I'm feeling too treens so thank you for that advice/confirmation.Quote:
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thank you atomic.
treens - I am in 2ww. i am thinking i ovulated on cd15 . today cd21. I am trying not to watch any symptoms and will wait until AF due to do any test. dpo 6 only if i did ovulate on cd15 .
when is ur AF due date?
DH had busy week at work and he had to do overtime works so i was a bit worried if that will impact sperm quality.. sway etc as he looked a bit stressed. we attempted anyway.. as we couldn’t try for the past few months .. we thought not to delay anymore.
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Good luck!!! Don't worry about his sperm quality, focus on that which is in your control!
thank you. hoping this is our month.
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Hi jazmine! So nice to have someone here! I am due for AF November 28 when is yours?
I hope this month is your month!
thank u treens.
mines also due on 28th.. lol have you tested? am waiting for AF date
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Hey Jazmin I replied to your pm. Did you get af yet or bfp? Fingers crossed af hasn't come. I'm also swaying girl after 10 months of dieting ready for my bfp now.
Hey Kazzz
I tried to reply you and kept getting error message. have you entered to 2week waiting?
AF due today- 28th but not here yet. I feel like it is around... ill wait 2 more days before I take the test sticks out.. I always end up wasting it lol.
treens- how r u ? did you test yet?
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Hi ladies I tried testing on Thursday because it was out 4 year anniversary of my husband asking me out lol and if we conceived this month I would be due on our 3 year wedding anniversary. I thought that would be cool. But it was negative, could have been too early but I am feeling she is on her way, she is due today. We will see i will wait to test again in a day or 2 if nothing shows up :)
Good luck all!
Belated Anniversary Treens. AF didn’t arrive yesterday but I guess it is delayed. today is cd30.Quote:
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atomic
last month my cycle was 25 days, the month before 26, month before that 28..
this cycle today 30 af not here.. it used to be 28/29 days cycle spot on. why do you think its keep changing? is it something to do with hormonal imbalance? or these many differences is ok even if it wasn’t like that before?
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Just checking in I tried testing yesterday but it was negative. I am CD31 today same as you Jazmin.
same here. cd31. no AF. i will test tomorrow morning if AF isnt here. I have bad gas and tummy ache today but I am trying not to symptom spot.. I did that lot last time.
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Maybe a bfp coming. I'm not in my tww yet I'm cd14 so waiting for ovulation. I replied to your message it did come through :)
I hope it is your month! AF came strong and hard yesterday afternoon. Here we go again :)
Oh sorry to hear that. How many months of 1 attempt have you done so far? This is my 3rd month if I don't get bfp this time I'll switch to e4d next cycle
We got pregnant after 4 months of trying we were due in April with a little girl. This was my first attempt after our loss at the end of September. Best of luck to you :)
That's not a sign of anything amiss. That is very normal - people just have that type of natural variation. Anything from a 21 day cycle to a 35 day cycle is normal, and it's also normal to have different lengths any given month. I know it's weird when you've had a perfectly regular cycle then it shifts, but that happens to women all the time for no known reason and with no downside.Quote:
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I tested today and its bfn. it is AF tricking me by delaying it. little disappointed but worried about gain weight as i am swaying for boy
kazz oh ok. wish you the best with attempts. fx for this cycle for you.
Treens.. will be joining you soon. sorry about your loss. you will get ur bfp soon.
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If you've ovulated late, you may be late to get a positive pregnancy test too.
Just focus on eating the healthier options and skipping things that have empty cals - you got this!
AF is here yesterday. [emoji20]I couldn’t login yesterday to the site for some reason. there was some error.
yes- thank you atomic. I need to cut down little bit more carbs. what are empty carbs you would say? what is good carbs?
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Sugar and sugary treats, white bread, white rice, pasta in excess particularly when it's not a healthy type of pasta dish (like boxed mac and cheese), highly refined cereal like Rice Krispies or Corn Flakes, very high carb fruit like bananas and dates, fruit juice, dried fruit are all good things to avoid if you're gaining weight on the HE Diet. Alcohol is another thing that is easy to give up to save on some empty calories. Some people even need to give up on potatoes, but most don't - there is usually a LOT of room to cut back on sugar and white flour carbs before you need to worry about potatoes. However, if you're eating a lot of things like chips, those need to go. I know some people claim they sway, but they don't. They're just pure carbs with no nutrition - empty carbs.
Good carbs are things that are slower to digest, with higher fiber in them. Fresh fruits and vegetables (other than bananas, juice, and dry fruit), whole grain bread, brown rice, nuts. Pasta is a little bit of a gray area. While they do have whole grain pasta, it is not very good tasting for many people, and as long as you're eating regular pasta in moderation and in healthy ways (like I mentioned, not things like boxed mac and cheese, or very low in protein pasta meals) then usually you can get by with it.
Thank you atomic. I think the only i eat here and there in bad carbs.. is sugary treats. I will definitely watch more not to gain anymore.Quote:
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Also will watch on white flour carb though I have reduced it.
otherwise I mostly eat broken wheat / quinoa / brown rice and sometimes wholemeal bread.. either with chicken meat or fish and vegg.
bf i include egg mushroom etc sometimes a quick sandwich.. milk strong tea in the morning and a black tea in the evening..
hoping bfp for next cycle [emoji1696]
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Sounds like my girl sway diet minus the tea lolQuote:
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5 DPO here anyone in the TWW?
The whole family got covid during our trip last month, luckily the symptoms were mild and we had very quick recovery. The only thing is that I got my period 2 days earlier (my LP went from 13 days to 11 days) or I ovulated two days earlier? Can covid mess up your cycle?
Timing wasn't too good this time, tried to aim at O-2 and early O but got a surprise positive and ended up with O-3 and O-1 (because tried again on O but didn't work). The next day my temp spiked so fingers crossed for this cycle but not very hopeful...