Im with Amari about maybe seeing an accupuncturist too..that was my next move if nothing came of this cycle
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Im with Amari about maybe seeing an accupuncturist too..that was my next move if nothing came of this cycle
sweetsister, I SEE IT!! ahh#%#$% congrats :)
Is there really much hope when we have been trying for over two years now? I just don't see it anymore...
Sweet sister yay!! So awesome, congrats! I'm 12dpo I think, so our due dates will be close!
Kraizy I can't imagine how difficult this is for you, particularly after 2yrs of trying but I hate to see you give up! A friend of mine is a fertility specialist in natural medicine, she does herbs, traditional Chinese medicine n acupuncture etc n her clients have huge success with that. I would really consider going down that road. Perhaps this is something you could look into. Keep the faith Kraizy lady :awe:
I Say yes, there is hope, there can be miracles if you believe. Have you guys tried just having fun and not stressing about it? Saying a lot of prayer and just "playing"? :) I think RELAXATION is key over anything else. I've watch girl after girl on youtube either give up and not try or half try.. or just completely stop trying and it happens!Quote:
Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy
Have you tried Vitex yet? I was scared to try it because my period falls on the same day every month without fail so I was nervous it would screw my cycle up, but it worked. Just jump in with both feet with FAITH! :) Easier said than done after all this time but I believe you can do it!
thanks Butterfly and Lala. You both are too sweet for you own good!
Congrats Butterfly on you pink bean.
Lala I am looking into options. I checked to see if the RE my doc referred me to is in my insurance network and she is, but infertility treatments are excluded from my plan, so not sure what my insurance will pay if anything. We will see, but at this point, my OB thinks it is my DH that is the problem, so I am not sure what they can do for that. Maybe we can do something to help on our own? If low count sways girls, I am not sure I want to make it better and get a boy, you know. I am so confused and so emotional...
Oh no problem, don't ever lose hope! Keep trying and believe. I believe in the law of attraction! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy
I am newly pregnant as of Sat so I wish I knew if it was a pink bean, but I LOVED seeing that sentence!!!!!!
I really am feeling strongly like it is a girl though and I will have to fight for her!
Hey - lots of lovely congratulations! Butterfly, Lala and Sweetsister - when are you due? There's going to be a little cluster around Christmas and New year I think!
Really feel for those still waiting - it is so, so tough. I would recommend acupuncture too. I credit it as being our answer to prayer to have a pregnancy that stuck. I still have it occasionally and it really settles my spirits and rebalances me.
Congrats LaLa!
When did you do the acupuncture? at the beginning of your cycle? does it matter the timing with your cycle? thanks.
Sweetsister- congrats yay yay yay !!
Kraisy- I agree with sweetsister about giving up I think with that mindset being less focused is when it will happen. I swear last month even though ended in chemical i got the bfp bc I wasn't focusing so much on it bc I have the plan down pat and read other stuff besides ttc stuff, relaxed etc
Congrats sweetsis!!!!
Congrats sweetsister!! So excited for all these BFPS!
I am getting super nervous! Just got a high on my CBFM this morning, a whole 3 days early, yikes!! UGH, Vitex. Thankfully I had DH start FR early this month, just b/c I was worried about this very scenario.... and it looks like we'll just be able to squeeze in 7 FRs before 1st attempt on Sat (O-2).
Now I am second-guessing everything... and getting stressed out... tomorrow I am going to get a massage and try to relax! I've been on this diet so long that it's become almost second-nature, but the TRYING part is new... I hope I don't get myself too worked up!
It's cd5 and I have not even picked up my last cycle of Clomid. What is wrong with me? Discouraged and broken I guess. I don't even have any OPKs, HPTs or monitor sticks and I don't think I am getting any. If I try this cycle it will be BBT alone more than likely.
Thanks so much ladies for being my sounding board. I really appreciate each and everyone of you and pray for you daily.
Good Luck Rainbow
Kraizy- I know you are feeling down....but GO get that clomid so you can go get that dd!! Cheering you on!!
ILindGurl - I did acupuncture for several months so it wasn't a specific time of cycle - more just balancing out everything so my cycles were regular, I was ovulating, the lp was a reasonable length etc. There are acupuncture techniques that focus on specific needs but my practitioner takes the holistic approach and it totally worked for me.
Picked up Clomid took first dose and so the journey continues...
Picked up Clomid took first dose and so the journey continues...
Yes, KD. It took me 2 years to get pregnant with my first. I feel the body is so strange. I had an oops pregnancy before I was married. Then dh and I tried for 2 years, including ivf, all failed. Then I did accpuncture and got pregnant within 6 wks. Then ds2 happened 1st month 1 1/2 years after 1st son. I would def recommend it!
It took 1 1/2 yrs to get my ds3, so I guess 2 yrs isn't all that bad and I really should not complain. I mean I am blessed with 4 handsome sons. I am just impatient!
Congratulations to all of you BFP-getters!!! Hopefully you have a strong trend going ... I'm on CD8 and planning to test next Monday.
Ribbons, you go, girl! I naturally have longer cycles, so I like that Vitex seems to bump O earlier ... it lets me get my next cycle going that much faster after a BFN.
Kraizy, I'm so sorry for what you're struggling with. You are in my prayers.
thanks Dramabird! I really appreciate the prayers. If it is God's will, I will finally get my BFP in May or whenever He decides. The sooner the better since my patience is not very good these days LOL!!!
right there with you!!Quote:
Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy
So I am thinking this and next cycle will be it for me as far as the Clomid since it stays in your body for what 6 weeks or so? I am wanting suggestions on what I should do this cycle considering I am Oing with the Clomid but still not getting pregnant? I am really thinking it is my DH's counts, so that being said, what can we do to help this? As far as timing and our attempts how should we do it? I just want a baby now, so any advice you all could give is much appreciated.
Blessings for a happy belly day for all those who are preggers and girly vibes to all of us still chasing our pink dreams!!! AMEN!!!
Kraizy- what is dh doing FR? abstain?
Well i suggest using preseed ,i mean i did preseed and guaffenisen as the clomid made me so hormonal and moody i wasnt going to do it again,it was my 3rd cycle so i was determined,and instead of doing every day leading up til ovulation for 7 days in a row!!!silly? we did about bding closer to pos opk i think 4 or 5 days in a row and on the pos opk dAY and one after,so your sure to hit it!I would strongly suggest preseed:) and ditch the temping and rely on the +opks.I peeked at your chart and did you miss the day of +opk for swaying or by accident?I would definately hit those days before during and after.I dont know much about helping mens count i actually was starting to think my dh had the problem because we didt for so long but turns out it was just too many swaying factors i guess?Quote:
Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy
For me this will be my last pregnancy...sniff im 38 ...so i really only have the diet going for me,after ditching everything and adding some,but i just wanted to get pregnant so took the chance:)
The last few cycles we have just been trying to DTD through O. Not FR or abstaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by mydream
The only thing I hate about Preseed it that it is supposed to sway boy and my CM does not seem to be dried up due to the Clomid, but maybe it would help. We used it before, but did not fall pregnant, so maybe I might get some this month.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetsister
As far as missing O day, I am not even sure FF is right about the day. We DTD at 1am on cd 15, so we missed O day by an hour. That day was just so busy and we could not fit it in until way late that night. I plan to DTD each day as soon as O gets close till day after O. Unless I hear that we should not do it this way.
Its not because your cm is dried up also,it is because clomid makes your cm that you have hostile and sperm dont survive,so guaffennesin will help the spermies up up there survive and the preseed will help along the immediate ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy
And being on clomid they dont even reccomend you temp as it gives you false temps,Take me for example i o always using FF temping on cd16 like clockwork,and when i used only opk this time and ditched temps i oed on cd18 2 day later,if i would have done ff i would have for sure stopped dtd and missed it.
I would dtd few days before you think you will o just in case it is dh you want to not abstain or frequent release and get the best ones:),then oday and until opk gives you a negative even that day to be covered,like the 2 days after you get a +opk,and i didnt jump and dump to i lay 15mins hips propped too i just remembered.
Interesting info on OPKs and temping on Clomid. I did not know you were not supposed to temp. It drives me crazy anyways, but I like to have scientific data. I guess I am just a visual person and like to see the dips and rises. But my O has been pretty much cd14-15, so I don't know about just doing OPK's cause I do them as well. I don't have any so I will have to get some. Do you use the digital ones? I think they are so much better than the sticks. Do you use a combo of both?Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetsister
If Clomid makes CM hostile and that is the reason it sways girl, why would I want to add Preseed to make it more hospitable to both girl and boy sperm? I am just so terrified of getting another boy, but would be so happy as well. I think for sure my DH would never let me try again. How much do you use of the Preseed?
KD-I agree with everything sweetsister said. I did preseed the cycle I got pregnant as well. I think it sways boy in terms that it gives the sperm better environment to get to the egg. But with our diet, and being on clomid, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Also, if you go to the preseed website, it has stats on boys and girls conceived using clomid, it does not show a sway towards boy. Also, I googled success stories from preseed and read a ton of them! There did not appear to be more boys born than girls. I would also make sure you are actually o'ing when you think you are and not later, because you can get a false positive on opk's if the clomid isn't out of your system. I did and starting dtd before I was actually o'ing. Luckily, I had dh keep fr'ing, and I kept doing the opk's and I didn't get a + again until cd19. Definitely dtd before during and after o day too! GL, fx for you!!
I guess I will give the Preseed a try and keep DTD each day I guess. Thanks so much for helping me struggle to find my way...
I used up til the 1 last cycle but didnt conceive so this time i used 2/12 almost up to the 3 line with the preseed every time we bd.
And i suggest ditching the temps more to relax because it really is stressfull and controlling doing that you have to let go of the control and let mother nature do her job it is out of our hands,and enjoy making woopeee:) probably the most important,when it is mechanical for dh too and stressful it probably is the worst situation to conceive ..
I was talking to DH this am about me not temping and he thinks it is a good idea. Of course he is already to try again even before O time. I don't want to stress him, so I am just going with it and will nudge him more when the time is just right. We are going to get the spermcheck home fertility test you can get at Walgreens and CVS pharmacies to see if further testing is even needed. Who knows he could be just fine LOL!!! Then the Preseed of course. Sage has also suggested it, as well as BD O-2 and O-1, so I guess I am all set. Just need OPKs as well since no temping this time. Which sticks the digital or both?Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetsister
We did the spermcheck test and it worked for us - be sure to read all the directions! It has a crazy amount of steps! I felt like I was back in high school science lab, but then I am scientifically challenged - I don't know how ladies do the EGS stuff :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy
Oops - don't know how that double-posted, sorry!
I looked at the instructions online and thought oh my! When it the best time to do this test? AM PM or abstaining? and what did your test results say if you don't mind me asking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribbons
We wanted a natural "baseline" - did it in the AM after a 2-3 day abstain (boy timing) but he had been on LR for a week, so that might have skewed the results slightly. He had a pretty strong test - it wasn't a super-dark solid line (wasn't darker than the test line) but it was definitely positive! I thought about doing it again after he was on LR and doing FR for awhile but I don't want to spend the $$ again, those tests aren't cheap.
So you were trying to lower his count with LR? and I believe they are 39.99 where I live, so did not know if the box told you the best time to take the test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribbons
What is a natural "baseline"?
Yep - trying to reduce his count, he has a pretty high sex drive naturally (which I assume translates to high testosterone/sperm count) so I am doing what I can to get his count down for sure!
I can't remember what it said about timing, I do know it said to do it after a 2-3 day abstain but I don't think it specified time of day.
Okay, that is good to know, because of course as soon as we get it, I am going to want to test right then, but he needs to abstain, so I guess we will see how that goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribbons