thanks mocha for the burger and I´m so sorry Af showed up !
FX for an april baby!
thanks mocha for the burger and I´m so sorry Af showed up !
FX for an april baby!
zanacal (Manical, lol!) - I defintely get hungrier around O time! I also got a +OPK today (and yesterday)...Never in my life have I seen a positive more than one day so I'm thinking it may be the Vitex...(???). It's a shame we're not TTC on this one, lol. Whether you push your TTC efforts out another cycle or not, I think you've done a lot to sway the odds. Like Mocha said, do what feels best!
Okey-dokey...Here's my day (like a broken record, lol!):
1st Meal:
- 100% cran juice w/psyllium husks
- decaf coffee w/splash of rice milk
2nd Meal:
- basmati fried rice w/leeks and zukes
- rice cakes w/hummus
- fiber choice fiber supps
3rd Meal:
- iceburg lettuce w/balsamic
- air-popped popcorn
- rasp/strawberry/psyllium husk smoothie w/rice milk
I'm finding I'm reaaaaally low on potassium...like only 300 to 600 mg per day so I think I'll need to start drinking some coconut water...when it's hot, I don't feel like eating bananas. I've been feeling really nauseas, weak and thirsty for the past several weeks and I am getting reoccuring headaches. Anyone else have this problem? I think it's probably a quick fix but I'm glad I went back to food logging for a bit since I happened to notice my levels were too low.
Here's today:
Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: low fat swiss cheese sandwich on low sodium bread, rice milk, sugar free cookie
Supper: portobello mushroom burger on a low sodium bun with a slice of low fat provolone and a slice of tomato, 30g of fresh curd cheese (one of my biggest weaknesses - I've avoided buying it for weeks because I find it so hard to resist, but I caved today because af arrived and I was feeling down)
Snack: lemon gelato (there's NOTHING in this stuff: 60 calories, 10mg of sodium, 0 protein, 0 fat...), strawberries, Nibs...and 30g more of curd cheese :suprise:
Ok, seriously I have to get back on the wagon. I would have been fine today If I'd kept to 30g of that cheese, but after I ate the gelato I saw it sitting there and it looked so good...and it killed my sodium and protein intake for the day.:worry: I'm going to have to feed the rest of the cheese to my kids tomorrow so I'm not tempted to eat more.
Calories: 1254
Protein: 45.9g
Sodium: 1500mg :sad:
(((HUGS))) You're doing 5000x better on your diet than I am.... :rofl: I think my sodium intake for today was around 3000. I don't know how crabby I'm going to be in 5 days when I start this diet...but I can imagine my hubby will not want to do frequent ANYTHING with me if I can't have any foods that I like. Why can't this be easier?Quote:
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Thank you Girls! I guess it's just so hard to imagine that anything will work for me. I wasn't really into the diet at all at first but the more I think about it, the more I'm really pushed to do it. I have this one last chance...why waste it???Quote:
Originally Posted by zanacal
It really helps knowing that you guys are all still alive and well.....LOL! I thought for sure I would die without any red meat....and who knows...I might make headlines- "Canadian woman found clutching a package of ground beef in her home. COD was from lack of yummy foods". :wink::bigsmile:
Oh no, mocha, I'm so, so disappointed for you!!! I think your attitude is fab, your next attempt is only 2 weeks away! Will post later as trying to keep ds2 quiet as it's early!!!!!
DM, you're so funny, I love reading your posts! I too find it hard to imgagine anything will work for me - in my mind I'm doing this all so I can tell myself I did it when I have our next boy. I truly don't ever think we'll have a girl. I really don't miss meat either - excet that it's sometimes inconvenient not to be eating it because I can't just eat the same as everybody else! I also eat lots and lots of yummy food on this diet so don't worry about that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DoulaMama
DM - you can do it, believe me! Before I started this diet, I told my girlfriends that there was no way I'd actually be able to do it. I figured I'd get a week in then dh would find me shit in a closet eating a big bag of chips. I LOVE to eat - seriously, I normally spend my whole day planning my meals and anticipating my snacks. I thought denying myself everything I loved would drive me batty. Instead, I've found things that fit into this diet that I can look forward to. I looooove parmesan cheese, so having a generous portion of that on my pasta makes it yummy to me. I've found some types of pizza that I can eat. An luckily for me, strawberries are my favourite fruit and in season right now.
What part of Canada are you in, by the way? I'm in SW Ontario.
Now that really would be something for DH to worry about! :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
Mocha, I agree w/the others…your attitude is perfect! I know it felt so good when AF finally came for me last time since I felt so relieved and ready to hit it again. I did take a cheat day on the 1st day of AF (and will continue to do so as long as AF comes) but I was a bad, bad girl and didn’t even count cals, protein, sodium or anything. You did a SUPER job for having a cheat day…:agree: doesn’t even seem that bad…just a bit high on Sodium but that’s way less important than the other things I think. You are still on the girl path and hitting it hard!
LOL…I could have wrote that!!! I simply LOVE FOOD! Don’t get me started on CAKE! Doula already knows of my addiction to that, ha, ha…Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
DM, I agree w/Zany…I always know I’ll have a good laugh when I see one of your posts. You will find that there are so many work-arounds once you find girl foods you like. As long as you can fit it into your cals/protein/fat/sodium, you can eat just about anything and sway. I think you just need to get out there and experiment. We're here to cheer you on!
Zany, I think most, if not all of us girl swayers are having a really hard time thinking we’ll actually get our girl. I guess it’s a good thing for the sway, though. I just feel defeated and deflated sometimes…:sad: I really do believe you have a really strong shot at getting your girl! I truely do! Now, just disregard I said that so it doesn’t make you feel confident and raise your T levels, lol…
I totally know all about that! The only time I can post is naptime or when both boys are playing in the playroom. Some days, I just can't post at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by swish
OMG! TYPO! That would be SITTING in a closet eating a bag of chips!!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by zanacal
Yeah...I had to read your post twice to make sure you meant "sitting" and not the other...Had a good laugh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
Bacon and eggs with potatoes. Burger and fries. Steak covered in A1. German chocolate cake. And then I woke up! Having normal drinks, 11am toast with a little butter and an apple, and chicken with brocilli for dinner... going to try and hold of on anything before bed.
pp, I know what you mean. I dream about food constantly! To tell you the truth (and I'm ashamed to admit this), with this BFN, I'm more disappointed about the fact that I can't eat food for another month than the fact that I have to wait another month to meet my baby! I was soooo ready to start eating non-stop as soon as I got that BFP!
I am so with you because I haven't had a steak all summer and we bought so many and they are just sitting in the deep freezer... I am going to make 10 steaks as a way to tell hubby we are preg (when i am 4-6wks). He has been so good and has only had beef a few times in the last 4mths.Quote:
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I mostly dream about foods because I was deprived of most foods as a kid and I love the fact that I can make whatever I want and share it with my kids... I love making up recipes and then falling in love with the taste.
You guys really think of some creative meals! I'm pretty boring but, like the rest of you, I am dying for a steak, stuffed potato and some potato chips.
mid morning: glass skim milk, CL
lunch: 2 slices of low salt bread with a tiny bit of tomato sauce, little mozza cheese and 2 slices of shaved extra lean turkey breast, glass skim milk
supper: 2 slices of low salt toast, glass skim milk, CL
What a great idea, tweedle! I'm going to make little 'pizzas' like that on low sodium bread too! It would be a lot less effort than making a saltless pizza crust, and it would feel so decadent! Since I'd use so little tomato sauce I could even use some that has some sodium (and hence flavour) in it, and portion control would be easy since I'd only make myself as much as I'm allowed to eat (I'm always afraid if I make a whole pizza I'll eat the whole thing). Yay! Another easy meal idea!
Here's me today:
Breakfast: Coffee
Lunch: Wrap with extra light cheese spread, 2 white chocolate fingers, ww victoria sponge cake, 2 boiled sweets
Snack: 2 custard cream biscuits, glass skimmed milk
Dinner: ww mediterranean vegetable crustless quiche, salad with balsamic vinegar and tiny bit of feta cheese crumbled on top. Strawberries with meringue nest and squirty cream. Glass white wine!
Lots of yummy things today to celebrate the end of the working week and I kept within my allowances. I was trying to reach around 1350 calories (trying to zig-zag my calories!) but only managed about 1250.
My experience was that it was too d@mn hard to plan weight loss. When I tried to do it, I ended up getting pg on the month that I was taking off to gain weight back and hello DS 4. I figure, lose it when you can lose it.Quote:
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Are you referring to the zig-zagging Atomic? It really only means having 1200 cals 5 days a week and 1300 or 1400 on the other 2 days. I've been hitting 1100 to 1200 cals each day and I don't think I'm eating enough to lose weight quickly as it's slowed down to a couple of lbs each week. I know from my vast past experience of dieting (!) that my body will hold onto the lbs if I don't eat enough and I want to keep hitting the weight loss hard. The idea with zig-zagging your calories as it fools your body into not knowing what's coming next and gives your metabolism a boost.
Wow!! I didn't get my gd fix yesterday as I was at a wedding and there is SO much to catch up on!! Firstly, yesterday's food, it was a disaster as I had to eat what I was given..
No breakfast
Lunch toast and jam, strawberries
Dinner tomato and mozarella bruschetta, chicken with wine, cream and mushroom sauce, creamy potatoes and green beans, White chocolate torte - it was really delicious and the first time I've eaten meat for a LONG time!
That day I had loads of yellowish discharge and am still not really sure if I've got a yi so just incase I'm now avoiding bread and sugar - as if the diet wasn't a nightmare already!!! So today...
No breakfast
Lunch couscous with green beans, yogurt, actimel ( I thought if I do have a yi thus is the only thing I have dropped form my diet so maybe it was keeping it at bay before!)
Dinner gf pasta, courgette and aubergine with Parmesan. Strawberries and White chocolate buttons (I'm finding no sugar hard!!!)
Anyway...
Dm, just to echo everyone else, I think you're doing great with any weight loss, the idea is to make your body think times are bad and anyone's body would think that on this miserable diet!!!
Tweddle, that pizza idea sounds yum, I might try that!
Ootb, I feel really guilty, sometimes I totally ignore my lovely little men so I can read the updates!!:prof:
Mocha, I hope you're back on track with the diet, I also primarily want a bfp quickly as I want to eat again!!! I originally thought I would like a 3 year gap between ds2 and next baby so that would mean not having the baby until may, we'll see what happens...
Zanacal, as I've said to you before I just cannot believe that this will actually work for me, I know it works for others but I think everyone thinks they'll be the percentage for whom it doesn't work- all we can do is try!!!!:bigsmile:
Oh and I can't find now where I read this but my experience with Chitosan was that it worked great for weight loss when I was eating a lot of fat (because it absorbs fat) but when I was eating mostly carbs, it didn't help much. Which makes sense. That having been said, I do think it's also absorbing whatever fat there is in the things you eat and some of the fat soluble vitamins, which is all good.
No, I think I quoted the wrong post, but someone had asked whether or not it was a good idea to make your weight loss peak right when you conceive. I think it's best to just lose it when you can lose it and then conceive when you need to rather than trying to time the two.Quote:
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The zig-zagging is intriguing to me because when I've dieted in the past I notice I have had a lot of times where I should be losing weight and then don't lose any, then I think, "well f- this" and cheat, and then the next day I've lost like 3 lbs. It's happened probably 2 dozen times!!
It may have been me wondering whether I should be at my lowest ever pre conception weight before getting pregnant - but wording it badly!
If at all possible, I DO think you should be at your lowest pre-pregnancy weight ever. And if you can get to your lowest ADULT weight, even better.
Would you personally wait to start ttc until you got to that point, even if it meant conceiving at 'boy' time of year?! My weight has fluctuated so much over the years that it's hard to remember. I know that when I was 18 and DH and I had bought our first house together I went to Weight Watchers and I was 155lb. I lost some weight at WW just after that but I'm pretty sure I never got below that level again. I weighed about the same after Christmas in 2008 and DS3 was conceived in January - but my weight was definitely on the way up because we'd decided to get pregnant so I'd ditched the diet. I figure if I can get to around 150lb then that's a lot lighter than I've been for a lot of years and, I'm pretty sure, my lowest pre conception weight - but I'm also pretty sure that I won't get there for next month's cycle when we'd planned to start trying because I'm around 170lb now.
Yes, if at all possible. I honestly do not think there is a light switch that magically turns on in Oct. anyway...it's probable to me that the % of boy conceptions has already begun to rise in August. And there are plenty of opposites anyway.
Here's my day...:C:
1st Meal:
-decaf coffee w/splash of rice milk
-100% Cran juice w/Psyllium husks
2nd Meal:
-homemade hummus and coco pop cakes (Just found these today and they taste way better than rice cakes IMO. Only 16 cals and 5mg sodium/no fat/no protein)
-coconut water
3rd Meal:
-iceburg lettuce w/homemade vinegrette and a few sprinkles of goat cheese, "girl sway smoothie", popcorn
Cals: 1,462
Fat: 41
Protein: 50
Fiber: 72
Sodium: 837
Higher fat and protein than I hoped for but I guess not terrible.
Swish - what a yummy sounding meal you had! You deserve a cheat day after all the hell you went through with your late O!
Zanacal - it sounds like weight sways more than time of year. Besides, we all live in different countries with different seasons. I'm sure most of these stats were made for the U.S., and you don't really have the same extreme heat/extreme cold dichotomy we have in many parts of North America (correct me if I'm wrong - I've never lived int he UK, though I've visited many times).
Here's my day:
Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: 1 slice of Weight Watcher's bread with a tiny bit of low fat peanut butter, strawberries
Supper: rice pasta with zucchini, leeks and parmesan, rice milk, low fat vanilla frozen yogurt
Snack: 30g of cheese curd (I was good today and kept to one serving, so stayed within the guidelines!), cranberry & vodka (I needed to have some extra calories anyway, and I'm far enough away from conception that I thought I deserved a little alcohol - I abstained completely for the past 3 weeks), strawberries
Calories: 1396
Protein: 37g
Sodium: 682mg
I went out today to get some new clothes because nothing fits me anymore. Turns out I've gone from a Size 6 to a Size 2! I definitely don't want to lose much more weight. How many calories do you think I should keep to so I don't gain weight but I also don't lose much more. I've been averaging 1200-1300 and thought maybe I should aim for something closer to 1400-1500? Thoughts?
1500 is probably where you want to be...even up to 1700 is probably fine but you'd want to gradually add the extra cals in slowly, especially since you're swaying. Add a few extra over a few days and see how your body reacts and then go from there. I'm trying to eat about 1500 but I'm finding it hard to get that high most days. I just don't feel like eating more. YAY for size 2!!!! :agree:Quote:
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In general, I find it VERY hard to add calories without adding protein and sodium. I eat tons of fruit already, but it's not enough to get me close to 1500. I've started eating more sweets, and that's helping a bit. I'll try to gradually add calories - I definitely don't want to gain weight, but I had a friend today tell me I look anorexic, so I don't want to lose anymore for sure!
Thank you:) That's sweet of you to say! I feel the same way about all this....at least I tried and I can't say "Oh I wish I had done x,y,z before TTC". This will be our last baby and I have to give it a real good shot!Quote:
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I have to be honest.....I nearly choked on my lunch while reading the bolded part! HAHAHAHA! And I'm 20 mins West of Calgary, Ab:) Thank you for making the diet seem less extreme than I thought it would be:) It helps to see others doing it somewhat easily:)Quote:
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Why yes I do Blue!! I say when we get our BFP's we enjoy a huge piece of cake! Yummy!!! And thank you:) It's nice to know you make people laugh:) Gives me the warm fuzzies!Quote:
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Sure....a typo....gotcha :wink: We won't tell anyone...don't worry..... :rofl:Quote:
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Ummm...that might take me a year:( Ugh. Why did I have to inherit my mom's ass?Quote:
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OMG! A sz 2!!! The only time I've seen a sz 2 was when I bypassed it on my way to a sz 12. That's crazy girl!!!! If you don't get a girl from all this I'll be shocked! Way to have some crazy, strong willpower!!!Quote:
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AFM- I'm getting a fade in on my opk!!!! Yippee!!! I'm on cycle day 13 in the am(it's midnight here) so that means that my cycle is starting to regulate itself! My last 2 cycles I ovulated on day 21 and day 28 consecutively. I'm really happy about this because that means I'll O near the end of Aug if it stays regular from now on:) That is if my body doesn't yell "sike!!" tomorrow am and give me a negative opk for the next 7 days before it finally decides to O. So that means diet starts a bit sooner! AHHHHH!!!!! I'm getting nervous :( What a pussy I am....LOL!
I have to go through this thread soon and write down all the meal ideas I can...which I'm so thankful for guys:) It makes this so much easier knowing we are doing it together:)
Night!
You couldn't be more right about the weather! This summer has been shocking. We had a glorious April where we were outside in swimsuits and with the paddling pool every day but we haven't had it out since. We get the occasional good day but for the most part it's dull and rains most days. Perhaps we'll get an Indian summer!Quote:
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The only thing holding me back from delaying my attempt is that I really would rather baby #4 wasn't more than 2 school years younger than DS3 - which means conceiving by the end of the year. I'm going to have to hope we get pregnant fairly quickly - and I don't suppose 1 month makes much difference. AND I'm going to be thin :D :D :D
I've gotta admit - I'm enjoying the being thin part. I've been really self conscious about my bosy since my twins were born. I had always been one of those naturally thin people with a high metabolism (yeah, I know - I hate people like that now too :bigsmile:), but after gaining 75 lbs with them nothing went quite back where it was supposed to. I still have enough loose skin on my belly to make a whole new person ("twin skin" - one of the dirty little secrets of twin moms), but at least now my belly under it is as flat as can be. It definitely won't last long once I get pregnant - I'm sure I'll start eating like a horse from the day I get a BFP, so maybe it's good we're TTC another month so I can enjoy this body a bit longer.Quote:
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My SIL lives in Calgary and we were just out there with all the kids last September for her wedding. It's gorgeous out there!Quote:
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And yes, it definitely does make it easier going through this diet with other people. There were many, many times I thought about cheating and didn't because I knew I'd have to write down my totals here. It's nice to have people to grumble to who know exactly what you're going through, and it's a great source of meal ideas.
I :awe: my diet buddies!
Ok, guys...here it goes...I'm going to do it...I really am! Today, I am officially skipping breakfast!!! I just woke up and said, today is the day! I drank lots of peppermint tea and water this a.m. (05:00) and that's it until now (09:30). I am drinking some coffee w/a Tbsp. of rice milk though. UGH...torture! lol You guys are probably thinking I'm such a wimp...it's just that skipping breakfast goes against every fiber of my being...I don't want to slow down my metab and when I tried to skip it a few wks back, it really screwed me up b/c I wanted to eat everything in sight (that was not girl-sway friendly). Hoping to make it until 11:30 and continue this until I get my BFP. Please send me "YOU CAN DO IT VIBES!"...Mocha, I'm with you...I am almost looking more forward to eating what ever I want than the fact that I'm finally preggo, lol.
Me too! xxx If I actually do get a girl, you guys are taking a big share of the credit b/c you are so inspiring and such a fabulous source of support!!!Quote:
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OotB - the biggest trick to skipping breakfast for me is
1) coffee, and
2) keeping busy
I'm usually out and about with my boys in the mornings, so I don't have time to think about food. The few times I've stayed home for the morning with ds3 while my older boys were at school, I SUFFERED. Sitting at my computer gave me oodles of time to think about the food I could be eating if I weren't on this diet.
Good luck with weaning yourself off breakfast. I find it to be the easiest part of this diet - it's the no snacking rule that I have the most trouble with (and I do break the rule and snack in the evening - I suppose I should just call it my 3rd meal since without it I'd be eating only 800 calories a day and would literally waste away).
OoTB, if I can skip breakfast then anybody can! Seriously, I love breakfast - I'd eat a cooked breakfast every day if I could! I have a coffee with skimmed milk and sweetener when I wake up and another one at 10am and they really keep the hunger at bay. I drink lots in between too. You can do it :D
Just to reassure you guys, at some point your metabolism WILL stabilize and you'll stop losing.Quote:
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Awww...Thx so much for the support and ideas guys! It really means a lot to me. :HH: I guess us "boy Moms" really love our brekkie! I've been really cutting back on it little by little since April. Before the sway, I was eating a veggie meal replacement called "Raw Meal" w/lots of healthy things in it and I would blend it w/kale leaves, blueberries and 100% cran juice. It made me feel like superwoman but it swayed boy big-time. I also had cut coffee out of my diet (trying to alkalinize my body as much as possible), ate 6 meals a day (all veggies and fruits with a bit of whole grains and nuts here and there) and was doing a lot of yoga. I looked and felt great! FF to now and it's just so weird...no whole grains, iceburg lettuce (which I now love!), no nuts and now no muscles...:worry: I'm just finding this whole thing very strange but I can do it. It's not terribly tough...it's just weird. I think I'll buy a donut today or tomorrow since on this diet, I CAN!!! :bigsmile: