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Thanks Jana. Yes I'll wait and here what atomic says. It's so annoying that I might have brought this on myself. Maybe I should just keep doing the HE and hope I ovulate naturally. I wouldn't mind doing this if it weren't for the fact that I'm about to turn 39 and I feel like every month counts. So annoying.
Yeah, You're in a tough position. The clomid might be a good thing though. Keep me posted on what you decide to do :happy:
I've been searching the site and I found atomic says this:
"Blue swayers – Feel good about your sway on Clomid! You still get to do most everything you want to do for a blue sway anyway. You do need to give up on timing and BSF, but honestly those things just get in the way of conception anyway. You’re better off without them!
Some blue swayers panic when they are told that they need Clomid because they hear that it sways pink. But just by using Preseed and Robi/Muci and eating an estrogen-friendly diet, you do so much to overcome that. Plenty of people conceive boys on Clomid!!"
But I still feel scared... I'll let you know! I wishI had your hormonal balance!
See! That's what I was thinking. I'm glad you found that!!!!!
You know what? I still barely slept after reading all the 'clomid sways pink' stuff. I am feeling pretty miserable right now. I'm just going to have to wait for Atomic to get back to me. Thanks for your support, Jana. I really hope your sway's going well - is it?
So someone mentioned OPKs can detect pregnancy so I took one yesterday and today and both were dark positives. I have NO EWCM which I usually have around ovulation. My period is due in one week. So I *really* think I am pregnant. Plan to POAS tomorrow. :)
Yay! Very exciting. Hoping to join you in a few weeks!
Tm-thought I'd add my two cents here. I used to work with someone who had three boys all while on Clomid...for the third she was swaying girl and still had a son. Hope that makes you feel better!
Bless you Hopefulblue - that's really nice to hear. It has completely ruined my weekend worrying about clomid! So your colleague had 3 boys on it? Wow. I just wish I could get on and restore my natural cycle so I don't have to do clomid at all. But breastfeeding and post-preg weightloss seems to have knocked me for six.Quote:
Originally Posted by hopefulblue
Midwest-Complex I am completely over-excited for you. Incredible! Happy news.
Tm29- I did some investigating on Clomid last night. Some ladies on this site were swaying pink and had 3 boys using Clomid. There were lots and lots of them. Has atomic responded to you yet? If not, bump your post!
My sway is going ok. I seriously feel like chickening out though lol.
Yay Midwest!
Hey ladies... sounds like you all have your plans in motion! Excited to see some bfps soon lol I said before I was going to postpone ttc for a couple months while I job hunt. Well im cd31 today and no af so im going to test in the morning. Im nervous because if we did conceive it would have been while I had non-fertile cm.. i thought i had already ovulated so i would be in the clear. Anyways i had very dry cm and no preseed used. Im kind of worried about that?? Hope af arrives soon.. wish me luck lol
Wishing you blue sticky should you get your bfp rubygem :)
Yay Midwest!
Hey rubygem,Quote:
Originally Posted by rubygem
I don't know if you read my prior posts but I was on cycle day 31 with no AF. She came the next day after countless bfn. I thought I had already ovulated and was in the clear. Best of luck.
Jana- if I'm not pregnant now, DH & I decided we will wait until next yr. At this point I could go EITHER way, but a small voice in my head keepa screaming "don't be pregnant don't be pregnant". My girls are wearing me out lately!
My mom conceived 2 girls and 3 boys on clomid. Her diet and yo-yo weight loss habits had way more to do with the gender of her kids than clomid.Quote:
Originally Posted by tm29
OMG Midwest, same here! I'm thinking of waiting until February. I just found out DD2 might have to have stabismus surgery on her eyes (they slightly cross) in Dec and so I'm thinking of waiting until afterward. Also, my gut instinct is telling me to wait a bit. What time next year would you TTC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest_Complex
Thanks Adia!
Jana - that's so sweet of you, I'm touched. I haven't heard from Atomic yet - I cannot blame her for needing a weekend break! Hopefully I'll hear from her today. It sounds like hostile CM is the main reason for clomid swaying pink. Because of my low estrogen I'm using a 1% estrogen cream internally (it's x10 stronger than estrace) so I'm hoping she'll say this will counteract the effect. But even then I'll be worried because it would obviously have been WAY better just to have benefits, not to be counteracting negative things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Janamomof3girls
How come you're thinking of postponing? All that eating and weight lifting you've been doing?! But I only have one baby so I have no idea how busy you must be with two. Sorry to hear your little girl has to have treatment for her eyes - that's no fun.
Thanks so much Adia - Great to hear this. Would you say the yo-yo effect was in keeping with the HE principles? Were the sons conceived when she was eating more+better? Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adia
Jana- Aww yeah, I would definitely want to get her surgery sorted out while not being pregnant. We would probably TTC some time after January as well!
Absolutely. I don't have time to write out too many details but as I have gotten to know my mom better she was clearly living HE when she conceived my brothers & painfully obvious LE when she conceived my sister & I. She also had 2 oops babies....both girls!Quote:
Originally Posted by tm29
Atomic's theories are sound & solid when I look at my mom & myself with my 3 girls.
I'm so grateful to you Adia! I'm gradually calming down about all this. Having a scan on wednesday to see why I'm not ovulating - in faint hopes I can do without clomid. But if it must be with clomid, then so be it!
I am currently trying clomid. I really want a boy but after almost 2 years of trying, 2 miscarriages, and turning 40 next year, I have to get this to work ASAP!
I tried clomid last year 100mg day 5-9 but it made me completely insane, no joke. I was seeing a doctor for infertility & she monitored me. However, my insurance only will cover TESTING, not TREATMENT. So this time I am trying 25mg day 5-9 on my own and just being careful. When my mom had babies in the 1970's and 1980's she monitored herself.
While using clomid I am still doing the HE & Atomic had some great suggestions for me while using clomid and HE together.
If I don't get a BFP this cycle, (and its really hard to tell early on because clomid s/e are miserable in the 2ww), then I will try one more round and then try Femara...if I can figure out where to get it. I think I found a pharmacy in New Zealand.
Anywho, don't think you are doomed if you use clomid. Nothing in baby making is completely one way or the other.
Good luck!
Wow Adia - we're in similar boats! I'm about to turn 39 so I feel like I can't hang around either. I've been prescribed progesterone for 10 days, followed by clomid 100 for days 2-6. I'm sorry to hear it made you insane?! What happened? You mean hormonal mood fluctuation? I'm interested to hear it can be taken in different doses. You're trying 25? I wonder if I could do that too - rather than 100. Hmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adia
I really wish you a huge amount of luck. Despite feeling and looking young, we're geriatric mama's and we need a little extra luck. Rooting for you.
Re not testing, I think the really important test is the scan right after you stop the clomid - so they can check egg quality/quantity and uterus thickness. If you could just have that one alone I bet it would be worthwhile.
About to blow anther small fortune on a scan over here, so I know how it feels.
Yes, you can definitely offset the pink effects of clomid from what atomic says - I also learnt this. Preseed+robi/muci seems to be the key. I'm also using ovestin cream because I've had low estrogen.
Thanks tm29. I need all the luck I can get.Quote:
Originally Posted by tm29
You may already know this but the hardest part of taking clomid is the 2ww when the effects of the clomid kick in. When I tried 100mg for 5 days my rational thinking, mood, gi tract, etc were a mess. I am normally very easy going and sweet, but I was a b*tch! I am feeling the effects of 25mg now and its no picnic, but I am not having insane and bizarre thoughts and drastic mood swings like I was on 100mg. Reality is every medication affects everyone differently.
Keep us posted on your journey!
Everything you're telling me about clomid is news to me - I have no clue what it's like. Sounds - er - terrific so far! I'm having my scan tomorrow to make sure I really do need it...
:pray: Praying you don't need it, but if you do, consider a smaller dose than 100mg, maybe even 75.
I think 100mg is just brutal, but I am extremely sensitive to all meds.
Hello ladies! It was confirmed that my DD2 is going to have the surgery on her eyes! So I will be waiting until after the beginning of next year to TTC.
Boysway and Midwest- updates?
Tm29- How did it go?
I'm glad you were able to get your daughter in. When is her surgery scheduled for?
No updates from me as yet. Definitely possible symptoms though. Moody, cramps, sore bbs, getting hot followed closely by feeling light headed then queasy. I can feel my bp drop when these things happen. All symptoms for me. The moodiness is the worst though. I'm unpredictable. I honestly feel like I should be on meds.
It's just past 3 am, Thursday morning here. I'm planning on testing this Saturday. That's when I will be 12 dpo. The same as when I got the bfp with miss 4.
I can't wait to find out! The suspense is killing me! LOL!
Lol Jana :D
Hi Friends,
I want to join the group if possible! I swayed in winter 2013 and got pregnant the first try using HE- lots of ewcm, weight gain, and poof, pregnancy! Unfortunately, I had a miscarriage. We have been preventing until now, so this will be our first month when my current cycle ends!
I am doing HE- averaging 100g protein, 2200+ cal, and high nutrient with a rainbow of fruit/veg each day. I take multi, fish oil, and fa. I want to do green tea, but it always delays O for me, so I try to drink it after O.
DH eats in general like me. I am trying to weight lift 3x week, but I injured myself recently! GRR!
I will use pre-seed and try to get 3x right around fertile time. Any other recommendations? I drink OJ and V8 everyday and get about 3500+ potassium a day.
I felt really strongly in my sway when I was pg last time and really felt like it was a boy. I do think it improved my fertility since we got pregnant the first month. It's been a long wait to get to this point.
What is the current recommendation on sodium? That is the main one I struggle to get.
Hi SpicyTunaSushi - welcome! I think Atomic just says eat salt to taste and don't worry about sodium. She thinks excessive sodium sways pink. Tell me anyone if I've got that wrong.
Jana and Adia - I had my very expensive scan with the fertility specialist. I am so relieved I could dance. I have no fertility issues - 'nice, young ovaries' in fact. The best compliment ever. Ever! I have been so scared! He thinks my AF will probably come back in the next couple of months of its own accord, but he recommended I take clomid to kick-start it so I don't suffer symptoms of low oestrogen any longer. He said I should not ttc after the clomid because of the likelihood of multiples. Instead I should let clomid provoke bleeding and then ttc the next month, with a natural ovulation. I said 'but I'm really longing to be pregnant' and he laughed and agreed to scan me after the clomid to make sure I haven't produced too many eggs, which he thinks I will. But if I haven't, I can ttc then.
So, if Atomic agrees with this idea, then it looks like I am on for October!!!!! So, so happy. And if not October, then November!
Boysway - the suspense is killing me too....
Jana- good luck to you and your daughter!!
I start my period Sunday and so far BFN's. Which i hope at this point stays that way. I definitely want to hold off as well!
Jana - I just read about your daughter's eyes . sorry i didn't see that before. I'm sorry you all have to go through that.
TM and adia....i took Clomid the cycle i concieved (and had been trying on and off for 18 months in total) 50mg days 1-5 unmonitored at bedtime. Worked first go and the sups i was taking meant i had heaps of ewcm.
Good luck!!
Great to hear Princess of Pink and huge congrats on your news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess of Pink
EWCM is the major issue. Do you know which supps/food helped you in particular?
I'm struggling to decide whether to take clomid ONLY to kick-start my cycle and then catch my natural ovulation the next month, or to take clomid to ttc right away. Part of me feels nervous that if I don't ttc right away I could end up needing to take clomid again anyway if my cycle doesn't ping back to life. But then the other part of me is concerned I haven't been on the diet/supps for long enough. I've done 5 weeks, so in any event I'd wait until I have 6 weeks under my belt (and spilling over my belt just a little) before I start the clomid.
Hmmm. Any thoughts? Hoping Atomic will have a strong view but it would be interesting to hear what you would all do in my situation. I'm 39 at the end of this month btw - so time not on my side...