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Thank you both for taking the time out to reassure me I actuallu feel a bit better today thank you, I was just curious as when I was looking back over the sways that ewcm was mentioned does that seem to sway as I have always had quite a bit and this month when we had a our attempt I had it too, maybe slightly less since being on the diet but still quite a lot where I have to wear a panty liner?
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On paper, theoretically EWCM is thought to sway blue, but the truth is over 10+ years we have had sooo many CM opposites...people who had loads of CM getting girls, people who had NO CM (myself included on DS 4) having boys, that I can not believe in it any longer. There may be something to it, but all babies need SOME EWCM to be conceived since both X and Y sperm need to swim thru CM to reach the egg. No CM = no baby!
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Oh thats good to know so hopefully me having Ewcm shouldn't cause too much of a problem.
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Hi so af arrived a day early today, i have to say I am really gutted about it as I really thought I would conceive this month especially after the extra bds......Im not really sure how to go about it next to try and conceive. Unfortunately hubby is away fpr 8 days over my fertile period next month so I probably wouldnt fall next month but as of December hubby wont be going away with work for a year so we will be able to start trying again from December.
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Can you think back 14 days?? If your period came early, could you have ovulated early?
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I did ovulate slightly earlier but we bd cd10 evening cd11 evening cd13 evening and then had a positive opk cd14 in the morning so only 12 hrs after our last bd.
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Oh shoot that was a great attempt too - it must just not have been the month. FX for next month!
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Thank you, do you think there is anything I should change next time?
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In one post, so I don't have to go back and reread several months worth of messages, give me a brief rundown of the stuff you did the past few months and I'll tell you what to tweak. I'm not talking diet and exercise, but the actual mechanics of TTC, when you had attempts, that kind of thing
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So August we had an attempt 1.5 days before pos opk, September we only had an attempt 2 days before pos opk as I had a throat infection both times he was doing frequent release. Last month we bd cd10 cd 11 and cd13 evening amd had a positive opk cd14 early morning, I ovulated earlier than usual.
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Ok. Attempts that far before pos OPK are pretty low chances. I would really only call that one viable attempt. This upcoming month I'd drop FR if still doing that and would even consider doing every 4 days, but I understand if you'd prefer to give it at least another month trying with one attempt since you really haven't had a super well timed attempt (though this month was good)
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Hi all!!!! Sooooo much has happened this past year.
After my last post due ti covid etc we decided to stop trying for a while and during that time my hubby changed jobs so there is no more travelling and he is so much happier and so was our marriage for a while but then he decided he didnt want any more kids. I was gutted but gradually came to terms with it. However this past week qe had a very long chat he decided to give it one last go and has said we will try for a couple of months but im very keen to try asap in case he changes his mind AGAIN!!
Here is my situation i havent been on any kind of diet as i didn't think we were trying altgough my diet is rubbish at the moment, I'm having coffee 3 times a day and only 2 meals but lots of sweets and coke. We are drinkinh a lot more but neither if us are at the gym altgough im on the go all day and my hubby works 6 days and his job is very physical. He now drinks cofee everyday and he has lost weight.
The last cycle we tried bd on cd10 11 and 13 and had a positive opk cd 14
Cycle before that we bd 1.5 days before pos opk
Do you have any advice for this cycle, im keen to get pregnant quickly?
I feel much more laid back this time round as i am so grateful we are ttc 1 more.
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Also just to add my dh has a very high sex drive and has no problem performing lol
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I got pregnant with my two girls first try. My diet was coffee for breakfast, a protein greens powder in almond milk and coffee for lunch and salad for dinner. Low fat and all vegan. Good luck!
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Thank you and was it just the one attempt or every 4 days
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What are the results looking like with e4d
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We just did it every day or every other day when I was fertile probably o-5 through o. We were not really “trying” that’s just when I was in the mood. My husband is always in the mood! With my son it was one time that month… we were really busy doing a barn build and didn’t have time.
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Would it be better for me to do the 72hr bd?
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Just get busy and see what happens! Your diet is going to be the #1 factor
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Because I answer posts from oldest to newest, bumping too soon (especially in weeks when I'm particularly busy, like this one) just pops the post up to the "new" posts and actually makes me take longer to get back to you. Thanks for your patience!
Urgh, just lost my post, posting this part for now, hang on
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When your hubby is reluctant but willing, don't waste time pursuing sway tactics that don't work (like timing). You guys should definitely go for it in case he changes his mind again.
It is very likely that the reason you haven't conceived is that you're trying too far before O. 1 and 1.5 days before positive OPK is going to be 3 days or even longer before O comes and that will be low odds of conception. If you're wanting better odds of conception you can do e4d (in the 72 hour pattern) or at least try the day OF positive OPK instead of so far before.
If conception immediately is what we need, I would actually consider doing something like the day before pos OPK, day OF pos OPK, and the following day (tho that wold be more blue friendly) along with every 72 hours to be sure you're covered in case of delayed O. But only do that if getting pregnant is more important than swaying.
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Thank you so much for getting back to me.
It makes me a little nervous avout having more attemps in my fertile window as i conceived my last ds by bd day before pos and day of pos. Im willling to give it one more month before moving onto that.
So we have already bd cd 6 pm and cd 9 pm. Should we do anither bd this evening which is cd 12 pm and then another bd cd 15pm or should i extend it a bit and bd tomorrow which qould be cd 13 and then again on cd 16? I usuallu get my opk on cd14/cd15.
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You don't have to have more attempts, you just need to have an attempt that has any chance at the egg. Trying that far before positive OPK is very slim chances of conception, and what can happen is that when people start off doing sways that have basically zero chances of conception (unless you ovulate early in which case your sway would not be timing-based anyway), carry on with that quite a long time, and then give up a lot of things all at once! You don't need to move from having attempts so far before O that you have no chance of conceiving, to having multiple attempts in the fertile window, it's ok to simply move closer to O.
Unfortunately my crystal ball is in the shop this week and I can't say what the right move is. You can, of course, surge and ovulate earlier than your norm and so in that case, if you ovulate CD 13 and had an attempt CD 13 that might be too late. But at the same time if you ovulate CD 14 or early CD 15 attempting CD 12 would be lower chances of conception. I just can't know when you'll O and so I think it's generally best to just stick with the e4d pattern and not try to jockey it around. It creates that control freak kind of stress that may sway blue, and you can end up "outwitting" yourself anyway if you change from a pattern that very well may have worked, to a pattern that had no chance!
If you can't decide, just flip a coin and do what the coin says.
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You make total sense, thanks again for coming back to me ap my pattern has been bd every 72hrs so i guess thats better to atick with that then to jump to 96hrs?
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I never have anyone go from 72 back to 96 hours. That's a stricter sway, not a milder sway, and over time we gradually relax our sway, not make it harder to conceive.
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Ok ill stick to 72 hrs i last bd on Friday so will bd again this evening and then again on Thursday. Hope that sounds ok. Are the stats looking ok for bd every 72hrs?
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We have good results with e4d.
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Hi so its noon here in the uk on Wednesday.
I used an opk this morning and it was negative and i have just done another one and its positive.
We have been doing every 72 hrs
So far we have bd:
Cd 6 Tuesday pm
Cd 9 friday pm
Cd 12 monday pm
I am now on cd 14.
By doing the every 72 method that means that we are not due to bd again until tomorrow pm (cd15) but i have got my first pos opk today so should i bd this evening which would be 48hrs from last bd or wait till tomorrow pm?
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I feel like i may of messed things up.
I paniked and ended up bding yesterday afternoon a couple of hrs after my peak. My dh thought we should go for it and I agreed but now i think that was a bad idea as we already bd 2 days before and we should of probably left it at that.
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I have still got a dark line in opk today not as dark as yeaterday but it is still definitely positive
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Two days before your OPK would have been very long chance of conception. I think you did the right thing having another attempt. Good luck!
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Thanks for replying. Ok great hopefully I havent meased it up then. I know timing has been debunked but i cant shake this feeling off that we bd far too close to ovulation (i have ovulation pains today) but both my boys were conceives a day before ovulation and now i have bd again a day before ovulation.
Not sure if ur will make any differnece but we used ky jelly with both bds and the last bd (one before ovulation) he had a hot bath. I asked him to ditch the bath but unfortunately he has got a back issue at the moment so ge refuses to give that up.
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Hey, it may be exactly what needs to happen! Good luck and pink dust headed your way!
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Hi so i did a pregnancy test on sunday morning and there was a faint positive however by monday morning it was negative and i started to bleed (2 days before my period)
That month we bd
Cd 6
Cd9
Cd12
Cd 14
First opk positive and clear blue positive cd 14
Moving forward this month would you he able to offer any advice for our attempt this month?
Thank you
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When did period arrive in relation to your positive OPK?
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Had pos opk cd14 and period arrived cd 26
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Ok, so when you say you started to bleed 2 days before period and then got your period CD 26, your bleeding started CD 24?
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Sorry no i meant that i was due on my period cd28 but i started to bleed cd26