Magical March 2016 TWW

Thank you 1moregirl and I understand exactly how you feel questioning yourself but its a desire that just wont go away.

Thank you Maiden, my gp told me she'd only need to see me should my results fall out of the normal. With my struggle ttc, my miscarriage and now this apparent delayed o this cycle I feel I need to steel myself for whats coming iykwim. My history is met dh at a later age (married when I was 29). We spent the next five years getting ourselves prepared financially to have children (which I am regretting now, would give it all up in hindsight just to start earlier). Had my first ds1 at age 34 and had no idea about conceiving other than dtd in fertile window that internet site worked out hahaha so he took 4-5 months to conceive and we were dtd probably 5 out of the 7 day 'fertile period'. I had only just started researching and learnt about charting etc when I conceived him. Ds2 took 6 months of charting, opks, dtd every other day and extra attempt at pos opk from memory (the same tactic I reverted to recently) and I turned 36 a month after he was born. I turn 38 in June. Haven't had a hsg or anything like that. My gp told me to come back to her if I hadn't conceived after 6 months. Well cycle 8 I did but lost at 5 weeks. I had bw done prior to ttc to make sure all was good in that area however I'm not sure exactly what was tested for? I'll ask tomorrow. Dh hasn't had a SA and for some reason I struggle at the thought of asking him to. While he says he's on board one minute and we can continue and see FS if required, it still comes down to money and age. He already says he feels too old (he's 44). So I have to take his feelings into consideration too. I don't have exact hormone numbers results, the office lady would not give them to me over phone even though I pleaded a sleepless night lol. In any case I just feel like maybe I wasn't meant to bear another baby and it devastates me to think I won't. I daydream about meeting my new arrival (team green), think on names and just cannot bring myself to throw or give away any of my baby stuff. Its not like I'm not happy or satisfied with my boys, they mean the world to me and so will another boy, for me gender desire is long gone and plain simple baby desire has taken its place. I would LOVE a third son!!! Sorry for the long winded reply....

Oh thought I should add this is cycle 11 I'm currently in.

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Maiden- I noticed in another post that you are having trouble with finding good opks in Germany. If you ever want Wondfos, I can purchase them for you from Amazon and ship them to you. I honestly wouldn't mind at all. Just PM me! I'm an Amazon Prime member and place orders for things all the time.


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Pbn3, XX had an AMH of zero and ended up getting pregnant soon after getting her results. And as you know, her baby is now 4 months old! She did end up doing 1 or 2 things that swayed boy in the end to up her chances of getting pregnant. Hopefully she'll post specifics. I know that she TTC for about the same amount of time that you have.

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Pbn3, XX had an AMH of zero and ended up getting pregnant soon after getting her results. And as you know, her baby is now 4 months old! She did end up doing 1 or 2 things that swayed boy in the end to up her chances of getting pregnant. Hopefully she'll post specifics. I know that she TTC for about the same amount of time that you have.

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I just saw this and don't have time to respond right now. I will when my DS3 takes his afternoon nap.

Pbn3- don't lose hope! It will happen for you! Don't give up! I'll tell you my story and what I did/what happened when I finally got my BFP.


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I had my cyst/ovary check today with the RE, got the all clear for another round of Clomid. He is going to up the dosage to 100mg this cycle since my estrogen and progesterone where still lower then they like to see. If they want me to do the progesterone supplements this cycle after getting my levels checked I decided I will take them. Want to give it my all this cycle and not leave anything untried.

AF is over after 2 days, they took blood this morning to do a HCG test, and then they will call in my script after it shows BFN. So CD3 for me today and I should start the Clomid this evening. This cycle is feeling very deja vu. My cycle this month started on March 12 and the cycle I got my BFP with my daughter 3 years ago started March 13, if it wasn't for leap year it would be the same. :)

PBN, I really get were you are coming from. Although my husband and I have been together 18 years, in the beginning I didn't want kids. When I hit my 30's I started thinking about wanting them but we were not in a place financially to have them so I waited and never said anything to DH. We both work Fulltime and daycare here is crazy expensive so that was the biggest cost factor, usually anywhere from 600-1000 a month. So at 36 we started trying and it only took 2 cycles off BCP to get pregnant and I had her 2 months after turning 37. For the first 6 months after her birth we TTP pregnancy and then NTNP for another 8 months. Well I just started into my 12th cycle of actively charting and trying, 2nd month on Clomid. I am now 39, DH 38 and sometimes I kick myself for starting out so late, or caring about the financial end, but better late than never.

I too have thoughts of just stopping, we have a beautiful daughter that I am very thankful for, but having another baby is something DH and I really want so not throwing in the towel just yet. Yesterday Facebook put up a pic I posted of DD 2 years ago and it melted my heart. She was only 3 months old and it confirmed that I really do want another baby. Hopefully we get our babies soon.

CD1 for me today so right on time. :) I'm really excited and hoping we'll get the go ahead to resume TTC this cycle. Called the nurses line and left a message so I can get the blood work and HSG scheduled.

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Pbn3, XX had an AMH of zero and ended up getting pregnant soon after getting her results. And as you know, her baby is now 4 months old! She did end up doing 1 or 2 things that swayed boy in the end to up her chances of getting pregnant. Hopefully she'll post specifics. I know that she TTC for about the same amount of time that you have.

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Ok. I'm back.

We had tried for 6 months and 5 cycles to get pregnant with our third child, when something didn't feel right to me. I made an appointment with an RE because I felt something was wrong. I know it can take a year, blah, blah, blah, but I felt something wasn't right. He ordered the standard blood work and an AFC. I was shocked when my FSH came back at 45!!! I was still BFing DS2 at the time and my prolactin came back within the normal limits. We were shocked! With FSH that high, no way should I be able to breastfeed a toddler, let alone have had my 2 boys! A level that high says I'm well into menopause! My AFC showed I had 25 follicles, which was great considering my FSH and my age, 35 at the time. My RE ordered a AMH test and a repeat FSH. It came back even higher at 46.8 and my AMH was less than 0.03!!!! But my AFC and my BBT charts said something completely different. My RE and I dug deeper and began to question the myoinositol I had been taking for non-swaying purposes. Lo and behold, we both found studies that show in normal healthy women without PCOS, high doses above 500mg daily can elevate FSH levels and cause egg quality to worsen, which is opposite of what is seen in women with PCOS. I stopped taking it.

I went on to have a miscarriage at 8 weeks. This was my 6th cycle TTCing. My other blood work showed I was slightly low in vitamin D, and I was low in zinc (goes hand in hand with my miscarriage). The RE had me take 1000IU of D three times a week, alternating with 15mg of zinc on the opposite days, and 800mg of CoQ10. He suggested I try acupuncture and keep trying. Since my AFC was great, he thought I would get pregnant soon. I wasn't a good candidate for fertility medications, because I needed my hormones to get back to normal on their own after discontinuing myoinositol.

I will never know what worked to get pregnant eventually or not, since I did many things at once. My sway looked like this:

Atomic's fertility diet with only eating less than 4 oz of meat and continuing to obstain from red meat (I was afraid of eating the recommended amounts of meat as allowed in the diet)
Exercise + Yoga
Fiber before meals
1600mcg of folate
1000IU d
15mg of zinc
800mg CoQ10
Acupuncture
Decaf coffee with Ceylon Cinnamon
Stopped alcohol after my miscarriage
BDing every 4 days unprotected

I mean I had a few blue things going on but not too much, yk? It would take me another 4 cycles and three more months to get my sticky, BFP. The month I did conceive, I couldn't get a positive opk on both Wondfo and CBD (the one with the smiley face). I didn't start testing too late either, I started on CD6 and continued through CD22. Crazy!

Hang in there sweetie! I know it sucks! Keep trying and don't give up. Don't give in to despair, because it will only bring you down. If you can, keep at it. It will happen but it may take longer.

I'll be happy to talk to more of you want to PM me.

I'm sending you all of my super, sticky baby dust [emoji597][emoji92][emoji93][emoji94]. Come on Goldie, release the healthy Golden egg already, geesh!! [emoji8]


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I have a really low Amh for my age 5.6 it's is and I'm just 36. It's not impossible to get pregnant just a little bit more difficult x don't give up the fight!!! I think it's an inbuilt genetic desire, and the more difficult it is to do the harder and more you fight for it to happen. Hope everyone gets what they desire, all you can do is keep on trying and try not to let the many difficulties and let downs push you to the brink of dispair xx

Pbn I'm so sorry TTC has been such a difficult journey for you. :( Please don't give up just yet! I hope you get your super sticky bean very, very soon! :hug2:

Well doctor doesn't want to do saline sono this cycle since I miscarried she waiting till my next period ends so mad! But my vaginal ultrasound at the hospital is still set for this Thursday. Doctor ordered it before she knew I was pregnant, so I didn't even mention it lol I will be attending the appointment, hoping everything is good. Praying if I did have a polyp it shedding along with my miscarriage. Then I don't have to darn wait to ttc again.

I eased up on the diet, not doing strictly veggie. Giving me 2-3 of meat not large portions I hardly eat a lot of meat anyway. To begin with I have pretty much girl diet. And since my DH had to change his diet and takes cholesterol meds that is even a bonus for girl sway.

I'm still debating whether or not to continue prenatal 3x a week.

I might add in baby aspirin 3x a week so when I do get pregnant it helps

PBN I'm so sorry! You deserve a baby! Prayers for you sweetie
We all deserve it, no one should go thru heartbreak like this

I know I have to be low in vitamins esp since I am under weight,what is difference between the LE fertility diet?
Honestly I had a son without taking prenatal vitamins.
I conceived my daughter without them either and was the most weight with conceiving her.

Big thank you to everyone for responding!!!! I'm feeling much better this morning and actually think I'll be able to hold it together at my appointment in 5 hours. You are all right, I shouldn't despair, I may just be borderline or if it's worse than that then I will research what I can do to increase my odds, improve egg quality etc. Think I'll try fertility acupuncture. IF I need to see a FS then we may go for an initial appointment to find out costs etc, providing there is one in the town I live in otherwise the nearest would be 100km away. Tfahn that is crazy about your cycle dates being that same (minus extra day for leap year) I hope this is a sign and really hope the increased dosage and prog supplements if required give you your best shot at a bfp this cycle. I'm super excited for you!

Wow xxforhubby! That is a pretty amazing story! I might see if I can find the fertility diet (I'm assuming this diet is to maximise fertility diet wise or have I got that wrong?) I'm pretty much back to eating what I was when I conceived my boys. I stopped taking fibre on atomics advice about 6 months ago. I really should try and stop drinking alcohol all together but I enjoy my wine so much so I may halve my current intake. I think I need to try and start exercising to - nothing excessive just general wellbeing amounts like half an hour a day 4 times a week or something. I've never been a big believer in vitamins (although I've been taking prenantals) but maybe I should see if there are ones you can take to improve fertility. I'd be very wary of doing this though as I'm quite the sceptic on their actual benefit lol. Bding wise is hard because of dh's shiftwork. I really wanted to do smep this cycle and if I had I would have had a much better chance with two attempts closer to my delayed o. May try for smep again this cycle and hope it works out. Hahahaha I've already gone from starting NTNP to smep and I've only just oed!!!!!

In any case I'll update after my appointment. Thank you all again you ladies are the best!!

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Princessmom I hope your u/s shows the polyp gone!!

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Well I guess we won't get to TTC this cycle either. :( Nurse called back and I'm supposed to have an endometrial biopsy done later this cycle so obviously I can't risk being pregnant then. I'm so sad. Guess this means that I won't be due until at least early 2017 if I do get pregnant next cycle. I never thought we'd have to go through all of this just to have a third baby.

Ksmom I'm so sorry :( do you mind me asking why they are doing the biopsy?

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I don't know, she didn't say why. I was given a sheet of all the tests/procedures I'd be having and the biopsy wasn't on there so I wasn't expecting this. I did read that sometimes it's done to check progesterone levels so now I'm wondering if my progesterone came back low. I suppose the RE could also be doing the biopsy as a just in case to cover all the bases.

I'm just wondering can they not schedule if you don't get a bfp this cycle? As in do it between af and o so you at least get to keep ttc? Or at least tell you why it has to be done at this particular time? Was there something in results that make them want to do it now?

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I was just reading that sometimes progesterone is normal but the biopsy is done anyway if there's concern of a thin lining. I won't really know anything until I have my consult with the RE and that's not until all my tests are done.

Oh ok. I'm sorry again :(

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The nurse said the biopsy has to be done around CD24 so more than likely I'll have O'ed by then.

Sorry I know having to wait is just awful

Xx - was your Coq10 that you took ubiquinol form? Good Lord, I've only been taking 100mg of ubiquinol - I hope that was enough. Also Hun, did you take that same dose of folic acid all the way through your pregnancy? If I get a BFP is ubiquinol the only sup I have to wean off of? I'm 6DPO today and get a bit nervous/excited whenever I think about doing my first HPT. How soon do you ladies start testing? Funny how we forget these details. People can be sooo thoughtless and tactless sometimes can't they? I have a friend who said to me the other day she was sure my last baby (the one I miscarried last year) was a girl and that I will get pregnant again with another boy. WTH? Then I had my Mother here the other day telling me how I could've died when I had that miscarriage and I really should just be content with what I have. I'm all for freedom of speech, but whatever happened to plain old tactfulness? I would never say these sorts of things to others because I think of how they are going to affect a person before I say them. I know my mother means well but she does have an uncanny knack of planting the seed of doubt in my mind at any opportunity. I'm already going to be worried enough about the risk of another miscarriage if I get another BFP but I certainly don't need reminders. I pray all of you get your BFPs very soon. Don't give up. I'm a big believer in that if you want something badly enough it will happen. I had my first at 36 and my third at 40 (was almost 41) naturally and fell pregnant last year in June when I was 43 but miscarried at 10 weeks (just to update for anyone who doesn't know my history). :)

1moregirl, that's so awful your mom said that to you! When I told my mom recently about my repeat losses, she said "well if you do have another miscarriage, at least you already have two kids.":mad: I was flabbergasted by what she said. I know she meant well, but sometimes she doesn't realize how insensitive she can be. I think in these situations, it's just best for people to not say anything other than sorry.

aww goodluck ladies, and ksmom for your biopsy too xx

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Xx - was your Coq10 that you took ubiquinol form? Good Lord, I've only been taking 100mg of ubiquinol - I hope that was enough. Also Hun, did you take that same dose of folic acid all the way through your pregnancy? If I get a BFP is ubiquinol the only sup I have to wean off of? I'm 6DPO today and get a bit nervous/excited whenever I think about doing my first HPT. How soon do you ladies start testing? Funny how we forget these details. People can be sooo thoughtless and tactless sometimes can't they? I have a friend who said to me the other day she was sure my last baby (the one I miscarried last year) was a girl and that I will get pregnant again with another boy. WTH? Then I had my Mother here the other day telling me how I could've died when I had that miscarriage and I really should just be content with what I have. I'm all for freedom of speech, but whatever happened to plain old tactfulness? I would never say these sorts of things to others because I think of how they are going to affect a person before I say them. I know my mother means well but she does have an uncanny knack of planting the seed of doubt in my mind at any opportunity. I'm already going to be worried enough about the risk of another miscarriage if I get another BFP but I certainly don't need reminders. I pray all of you get your BFPs very soon. Don't give up. I'm a big believer in that if you want something badly enough it will happen. I had my first at 36 and my third at 40 (was almost 41) naturally and fell pregnant last year in June when I was 43 but miscarried at 10 weeks (just to update for anyone who doesn't know my history). :)

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You slowly wean off the foilc acid/ folate by the end of the first trimester (even if you start taking a prenatal upon BFP) and wean off of CoQ10 upon BFP.

Yes, I took Ubiquinol.



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So I rang my doc's office again and they confirmed its the amh results doc wants to see me about. They obviously werent back when I originally rang for results. Good news is my doc is now going to be in tomorrow so I see her at 11.30 for what I can only assume is bad news.

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I don't recall what my amh was but my FSH was 13 and afc 6-9 at age 33. I was sure this meant I would never conceive. I immediately started fertility acupuncture (I found out it was covered by my insurance which was a bonus), increased my CoQ10, and stopped drinking coffee. I also tried to not eat a lot of processed food. I did some fertility yoga as well.

I know some of these things sway boy but I read they helped with egg quality. I found a lot of boards with supportive women who had been through it. I ended up getting an IUI and taking clomid which ultimately helped. Thankfully it worked pretty quickly and we didn't have to pay as much as I thought we would. My RE also financed their services.

It's still very possible to get pregnant. My dr never felt like I'd have trouble despite what I read online. I felt hopeless and remember laying in my bed crying that I'd never get pregnant. I don't know if you remember but I had a cp the cycle I got my diagnosis with no medical intervention and I had just given up coffee and gone to acupuncture twice at that point.


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For those who Increased there CoQ10 intake, did you split the Doses throughout the day or take them all at once? I'm at 200 of Ubiquionol now. Just wondering

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For those who Increased there CoQ10 intake, did you split the Doses throughout the day or take them all at once? I'm at 200 of Ubiquionol now. Just wondering

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I was told to take 400mg twice a day


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So much worse than I was expecting. No FS in my town so am finding out if my ob will see me to discuss my options. Update **Was booked in for 4th April but they just had a cancellation and can get me in Thursday morning!!! 😊
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Sorry pbn :( what is average for your age? I hope the ob can help.

Thanks Purple :) I actually haven't looked that up but I certainly will now! I have been reading about fair amount of success that amh my level and lower being prescribed clomid some with and without trigger shots and iui. I'm hoping my ob suggests clomid at least as an option. Anything more (as in trigger etc) I think I'd have to go to FS in nearest city which is over an hour away.

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So much worse than I was expecting. No FS in my town so am finding out if my ob will see me to discuss my options. Update **Was booked in for 4th April but they just had a cancellation and can get me in Thursday morning!!! [emoji4]
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Take a deep breath. I know how gutted you feel. It WILL be ok. It may take longer to release a perfect egg, but it you feel up for it, keep trying to catch it. Let's see what the other tests show. Take some time to figure out if you have the stamina to keep trying.

Huge hugs, sweetie!!


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Thanks xxforhubby! I'm actually pretty calm, I had my meltdown yesterday before I even knew because I knew it was going to be bad iykwim lol! I cant wait for my ob appointment! I don't feel this is the end for me yet, if I can keep trying with maybe a little help from fertility drugs then I'm all for it! At least for a few cycles. But if they say IVF is my only chance then it all ends. I am actually happy I'll have an answer soon either way! But for now I'm holding on to the hope and belief that I can produce just one more decent egg! Any suggestions on improving egg quality naturally in the meantime?

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Oh and what other tests are you referring to as I also had lh and fsh done? And yes while I am still gutted I am remaining calm until I see my ob. As I said before I just cant believe this is the end if the road for me 😊 edited to add I've posted all my results even the ones I had done last year lol please see below :)

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Purple I found this graph and I'm 37 for another 3 months lol so I'm pretty much rock bottom. Still trying to find a numbers range vs age, didn't think it'd be so hard!http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...cf385fbfec.jpg

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It was probably on the low side when you had your boys and you managed a natural conception. It may just take a bit longer. Hopefully your ob can prescribe clomid if it is suitable.

Xxforhubby these are my other test results for fsh and lh - tested in same blood draw as amh. I was told a couple days after (had blood drawn 29/02) they were in normal range. I have no idea how to interpret this report so I'm assuming this is correct? I was on the morning of cd4 when tested. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...60b8c54489.jpg

My gp also gave me a copy of bw results from June last year done on cd21 to confirm ovulation. It was confirmed I was but again I don't know how to interpret these results....http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b6fa99dace.jpg

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It was probably on the low side when you had your boys and you managed a natural conception. It may just take a bit longer. Hopefully your ob can prescribe clomid if it is suitable.