thorz- I am hoping hoping it is just a lil spotting for you and a big ol sticky sticky bean:fx::HH:
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thorz- I am hoping hoping it is just a lil spotting for you and a big ol sticky sticky bean:fx::HH:
Hugs Thorz. I went through a chemical in Oct. It was really upsetting. Hope it's just implantation bleeding.
Fingers crossed for you Thorz. I'm still not sure if I am joining this group yet. Still can't tell definitively if I have ovulated or not. DH and I are still DTD every morning just in case! My temps rose yesterday and a bit more today but Fertility Friend doesn't seem to know if I have or not yet. If I have then I think I'm 2DPO. Have to just be patient but it is NOT one of my virtues! Good luck for everyone still waiting and those with BFPs too!
:tissue: AF has arrived!!! It's really upsetting!!!
Good luck to all you ladies, I'm out:( Thanks for all the kind words! I guess I need to start focusing on my new cycle and pray I get a sticky :pinksperm: next time!!!!!
Thank you! My BBT thermometer took ages to arrive! Yes I have been doing OPKs but have just run out of the sticks. I tested from CD11 or so every day and finally got a positive on CD30! That does match up approximately with my temperatures so fingers crossed I just had a 44-day cycle! Really hope my temps stay high so I will feel sure I ovulated. I wonder when I should test? I guess I should really just wait it out and see if AF arrives in the next fortnight.
Feel really hungry today but I'm trying to stick to the LE diet. DH wants Fish & Chips tonight (very cliche British I know) and I may compromise and have just the chips with some veg or something. Had a very low low fat day so far just in case! Just been baking my practically fat-free courgette chocolate chip muffins with DS1 so I may scoff one of those to keep me going. Very yummy and very LE!
Sorry to hear that Thorz.
soo sorry thorz:sad::LotsofLove:
Thorz I'm so sorry! I do know how you feel and it's devastating to think you had it, then find out its time to go all over again.
I woke up at 3am and did my bbt and freaked out as it was 36.2! But at 6am when I usually test it was 36.47 so I think I'm ok.
I just have that sinking feeling af is coming, I get sore boobs before af so that's not really a sign I can rely on, and now my temps aren't ideal, and tests aren't any better, if anything the other brand I tried was totally negative, so now I suspect another chemical. I'm taking December off and that kills me. Also this month we did fr and there is NO way I'm doing that again so I know it will take us forever now, doing just one shot at +opk. I just want to give up today!
hey hun,
that's how i'm feeling this week too, i don't know if i can keep doing this, two weeks a month getting hopes up and then dashed is so hard ;-S
Sorry girls. Such a hard time waiting. I feel sort of like I have been waiting for weeks already as I've had such long cycles and never had them before. I guess I will join a Dec 2ww group tomorrow. At least FF thinks I've ovulated now that my temps are still up. Fingers crossed x
Thorz now I am having pain in my right ovary just like you did in your left. I am on the night of 9dpo (10 dpo tomorrow morning) and now I feel like maybe this is af coming? How long after that pain did you get AF? AF doesn't usually give me pain in my ovary but its freaky that the exact same thing happened to you at a similar dpo.
Been having stabbing pains in my boobs today and yesterday, but I get breast pain before af too. I just don't know what to think anymore! Now i'm freaking out about skipping a month in december, I kind of feel like i've done 4 months of le diet for nothing if I go to town in december, but then this last week, I have been so OFF the diet, like almost double my limits on everything, because i've been thinking i'm taking december off, and that I was pg.
My first response test was so negative I reckon I saw a WHITE line where the 2nd one should be, like, oh no you're not pg, you are SO not pg, you are extra negative. That was this afternoons wee though. If my temp is good tomorrow morning i'll test again. FF says I can test from Sunday (2nd dec) so I should stop reading so much into everything, but its hard to plan ahead without knowing where you stand!!
I'm so sorry, It is so sad to read all the heartache we are all feeling! I started feeling the sharp pains 2dpo but it didn't hurt at all it was just a noticeable pinch. I think it was 2 days before AF came that I felt a VERY sharp pain that lasted for about 20 minutes and then went away for the most part (never completely) my husband was worried it was an ectopic at first but the pain went away. Then the next day or two days later (not quite sure) I got the faint BFP but by the end of the day I started spotting and a few hours later my full AF came. It is a lot heavier than normal too! I've never experienced this before it is so sad. Next month is my last month trying. Why are you taking it off? I am done after this cycle because I really really do not want another winter baby!
I was taking December off because I was worried about doing the diet in December, and worried the antibiotics I took in the November 2ww would sway boy for me if I did try in December. But now I feel like the less time I take off the diet the better. Otherwise 4 months of LE diet perfection are kind of for nothing.
But I've had a bad 2ww for diet so I'm worried about getting back on it.
Now my plan for December is to try, but I won't start the diet again until af shows.
My bbt at lunchtime (before I ate or drank) was the highest ever, but this mornings was way low as if af was coming. Occasionally I take my bbt at lunchtime just to see the difference and I find I usually run colder during the day than I do after 3+hrs sleep, one time I was around the same. This time I took it and it was 36.87! And I hadn't been doing anything. I know it's not reliable in waking hours but I'm trying to cling at straws!
See we are about to be going into summer here now, and I have had 2 winter babies, so conceiving this month would mean an end of winter baby, and month after this gets me closer to the warmer spring weather. Lucky for me that works. But I don't really care about the winter summer thing, just want a bub, and I'll take any gender and cherish him or her, but girl would be so amazing after 2 boys.
meeks- I too have pigged out during this 2ww and plan on getting back on the LE when af shows. I will not be ttc in Dec, but will be on le, vitex, and doing mega cardio. Have you had any signs of increased T? If not I wouldn't worry about this slip up. Also maybe the next few days tests will make the whole thing irrelevant- still wishing you a bfp.
thorz- December is your month. Looking forward to hearing a bfp for you.
I really want to pig out too. Compromised with making practically fat free chocolate courgette muffins so I can have two with my coffee and still be within the LE diet. We're also having my inlaws over for an Indian takeaway tonight so I'm having ryvita and low fat cheese for lunch so I can scoff a huge plateful of veggie curry! Might even have a bite of naan and an alcohol free beer! ;)
Hmmm well I've been extremely emotional and very grumpy and quick to snap, far more than usual. Unfortunately that doesn't tell me much other than it could be stress, the diet taking its toll, af on her way or pregnancy (I knew I was pg with ds2 because I was inexplicably angry with dh for like an week, so so angry, and he had done nothing, then I felt nauseous and was like "hang on"... Sure enough I was).
Really does seem like everything is a symptom of everything else. I hope I didn't stress you out more. You have been disciplined on the diet and I'm sure you are fine. I am going through an unimaginable horrible day today and just trying to keep my mind off things by posting on here, so sorry if I'm being negative and all.
I really haven't been on the diet at all after thanksgiving do a good week and a half. The only thing in my favor is I haven't been eating as much I'm general. I know I need to start again I just dont want to! Lol!
hey all
so bfn again this morning, i feel lik have morning sickness fairly much all day ;-S is this ven possible if you havn't got a positive test?! i guess time will tell ;-0
You are probably right, I shouldn't care if the baby's birthday is in the winter, but all 5 of us so far have winter birthdays and that is a lot going on in one half of the year. I get seasonal depression, I absolutely HATE the cold and gloomy weather, maybe it is a good thing to have everyone's birthday in the winter to give me something to brighten up the gloomy season. It is just really hard not being able to have birthday parties outside ever! Another reason, and I know this may sound dumb to some, is that the chinese gender chart (the real one that calculates the mothers lunar age and the lunar month) Says girl for Nov and Dec but after that it is boy for awhile. I believe this chart because it has been right with all 3 of my DS and my sisters 4DD and my other sisters DS and DD. I don't know, I wonder if I might have lost too much weight to get pregnant. I am 5'5" and 100 lbs so my bmi is 16.6 so I don't know how to do this diet without losing more weight. I feel like the rephresh is killing things too. So I might just do a really light sway and just cut out as much sodium as possible, and no meat (I don't like red meat anyway) and still skip breakfast. I don't do temps but I think I might start this cycle it just seems like so much work! I think this cycle I really just want to relax, I was too uptight last time.
How many DPO are you now? Good luck, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!
oh dunno ds2 was a summer baby and it was so much nicer than a winter bubba found it much easier but then he was an easier bubba!
hey hun know how you feel i've been on the diet since april! wondered about taking decemeber off buy really not sure i'll ever start again i'm just gonna do my best and hope i can do enough! diet at moment is awful trying to eat to see if makes me feel less sick ;-S
:fx: for some nice bfps on here again soon x
Thorn 16.6 is too low, I think your plan for this month is good, and given your weight I agree with taking the few months off. I also completely get the winter baby thing, I hated having a newborn I couldn't take outside, and totally agree on the birthdays in winter thing. I feel almost guilty that this next nub will most likely be a spring or summer one, and the only person in the family that can have an outside party! Lol I know those things seem trivial but they do matter to some extent.
I'm with you on the december sway, light is the way to go. I haven't used rephresh as I don't know where to get it I'm Australia and it seems like a lot of ladies have trouble conceiving on I, so don't feel bad about dropping that.
Chinese calendar is one I struggle with. Knowing all we know about diet, leaving the calendar aside, do you think you would have boys anyway? In my case I think I had boys from my diet, frequency and supps, but I do feel better when I'm TTC on a month where the calendar says girl. I would point out however that if the Chinese had it right with that calendar alone, they would be obviously having boys, which historically were in demand in China and many families desired. I don't think their gender ratio is that different to ours, therefore I doubt it makes any difference (but totally worry about it too).
Hugs hon
Oh man this is me, except I've been eating tons more!!! The past 2 tays I toned it down but can't quite get myself on the diet again properly. I just don't want to! When af arrives I am hoping that motivates me.
Kind of dreading seeing the gp about clomid, I don't want extra tests and things, its a big fat hassle. That's so lazy of me but December is so busy. Then again i'll feel guilty if I don't and keep having 10 day luteal phases... Grr this months sway was so damn perfect and we won't manage fr again, so it will be back to abstain, which reduces chances of pg anyway.
Sigh.
Temp drop again today, can't convince myself it's a mistake this time...
If the Chinese calendar was right I would have had 2 girls and a boy.... so: incorrect for me...
Spotting has started today, 10dpo, so I'm out as well. Spotting usually means AF will be here within a few days. With my pg's I never had any spotting around AF time.
7DPO here and just feeling so tired lately. Hoping it's a baby girl in there finally!!!
yes, I too am starving! I was just looking at the clock to see when I could eat something and it's just 10am here. Grrrh this skipping breakfast is killing me. By the way, what are digestive biscuits? never heard of them.... When are you planning on testing?
Just stalked your chart and that's some serious baby dancing you got in. If there is no baby in there, I will be so surprised!!! Great job!!!
I was so in need of brekkie this morning I ate some leftover stir fry veg as they were all practically free veg on the LE diet so I figured it wouldn't matter. Anyhoo, we should be past implantation by now so it is all decided I guess.
Digestive biscuits are a staple of the British diet. They nearly always accompany tea. I'm unusual in that I have black Redbush tea and gluten free digestives but it's roughly the same!
I was planning on waiting until AF was due to test as I didn't want a false negative by testing too early. Having said that, I can't imagine I will get that far!
We DTD every day for ages because I was expecting another 35/36 day cycle and we needed to be doing FR with enough time before TTC. But I didn't get my OPK till CD30 so we were at it a while! Once I persuaded DH to DTD in the mornings it was great fun as it was a nice way to start the day. Fingers crossed as I lost weight much too fast on the LE, about 14lbs in the first 5/6 weeks so since then I have upped the calories and been trying to maintain the weight. If we are not lucky this month I will give up for a bit as I don't want to get too thin and not O!
Being at this TTC for almost 3 years, I completely gave up on the diet,but try to keep everything on the low side and skip breakfast. So it's Clomid, baby aspirin 1xday, and Folic Acid 40,000mcg that I have stuck to. Hoping it works so I can pig out over the holidays. Praying for you...
Wow! I thought I was out, but I have my BFP right here! I still can't believe it. Attachment 6999Two days ago I still had a BFN, not even a faint evap line!