Uk SMOG Wannabes ~ February

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Originally Posted by Babymad

What did you do to get your boys? Did you do the opp this time?
Do you think lowering sperm count is important hence your freq release?

We tried freq with DS3 that's why I tried abstaining this time and bd after ov.....along with diet, amazing how it works for most but not all.

I feel massive too - really struggling with my breathing which is really getting me down. I long for the next 15-17 weeks to go quickly!!

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I think lowering sperm count was as important as diet/maternal condition for us. With the boys we DTD every couple of days around the middle of my cycle but when I asked DH for the low-down it appears he was probably releasing on the days we weren't DTD too! Abstaining wasn't an option for us because he couldn't/wouldn't do it and I wouldn't do it with him being over 35 and the slightly higher risk of birth defects anyway. It was actually his idea to release twice every day (yeah, what a sacrifice!). We got pregnant really easily with boys even though DH was releasing very regularly so I suspect he has a very high sperm count - even this time I got pregnant with one shot after all that releasing and an immediate jump and dump! I didn't try to do the opposite to what we did before, just read as much as I could and decided what made most sense to me and what felt right.

I rather enjoyed my other pregnancies but I'm so wishing this one away. I know I shouldn't but if I was 10 weeks further down the line I'd be happy! That's so scary that you had an asthma attack when you were pregnant. For me I'm sure alot of it is psychological. Like Deaks said, the more I think about it the more I can't breathe!

Chocolate if I was to have another I would do high tech. Really happy with three boys and defiantly only have a fourth purely to get a dd. However not sure I want four kids as we only ever talked about three. I think you need to set aside enough money for three goes and be prepared for it to fail and be happy to lose 20k. For me it's not so much that money but the change in my life style. I would have to move, give birth around 40 and less time for the things I want. I think I'm not that in love with idea of a girl for that - but never say never :-)

Good luck deeks. My fertility tests said we would never another baby but here I am all the same x

Happy birthday for tomorrow inglewood!

Chocolate a girl on another forum I use has found HT for around 5
£5000 euros in north Greece. She lives over there and when I said I was swaying she said she'd consider swaying but then found gender selection for that price and think she's saving for that now, tbh I'd definatly have considered it myself!

Babymad enjoy your night with the girls! I've not done it in do long! Altho me my mum and sister are all going out for dinner and drinks this weekend as my mum is visiting for a few days, she lives 350 miles away so wanna see her properly to chat without kids!!

Deaks hope everything's ok! Low levels is fine, the important thing is that the figure doubles over 2 days :)

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Originally Posted by zanacal

It looks fine to me too - although I'm thinking there's a reason to limit cauliflower and broccoli, I'll see if I can remember why or where I read that! I'm sure you didn't eat much of it though and there are no magic foods! Have you joined the latest food thread where other ladies are sharing their daily food diaries?

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Hi Zanacal where is the lastest thread I can't find it!!!!

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Originally Posted by pebmcp6

Hi Zanacal where is the lastest thread I can't find it!!!!

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http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...-thread-8.html :)

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Originally Posted by GeCon

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...-thread-8.html :)

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Found it thanks, I have already wrote on it, I get lost where I wrote, it would be so handy if you got a notification when someone replied to your post...

Morning ladies! it's 4am and i'm up with a little baby who thinks this is the perfect time to play *zZz*

Inglewood ~ Happy Birthday!!! hope you have a lovey day!! x

Petal ~ oh no, i'm sorry to hear your little boy is poorly. Hope he feels better soon! My ds2 is very poorly with a tummy bug at the moment too and he's been throwing up and suffering from bad diarrhea :( trying to get him to keep fluids down at the moment but even that is proving a struggle :(

Babymad ~ wow 9lbs! was he late or on time(ish)?

Zanacal ~ oh no, don't wish it away! i did because i was so scared of something going wrong during my pregnancy and now i wish i wouldn't have. try and enjoy it as much as possible :)

Charlieispy ~ you are very brave for booking the scan! i cant wait to hear your pink news (if you decide to read the envelope) did you find out gender in your previous pregnancies?

Maybebaby ~ woop woop 37 weeks! full term!! :bluecheer: are you excited? is it starting to feel real that you will soon meet Dave? ;) have you got the hospital bag packed?

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Originally Posted by Kell

Happy birthday for tomorrow inglewood!

Chocolate a girl on another forum I use has found HT for around 5
£5000 euros in north Greece. She lives over there and when I said I was swaying she said she'd consider swaying but then found gender selection for that price and think she's saving for that now, tbh I'd definatly have considered it myself!

Babymad enjoy your night with the girls! I've not done it in do long! Altho me my mum and sister are all going out for dinner and drinks this weekend as my mum is visiting for a few days, she lives 350 miles away so wanna see her properly to chat without kids!!

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Hiya kell, could you message me the forum details and her user name so I can try to find out some more? From this site its anticipated about 10 grand including the holiday, then reduced for the next cycle. I'd save up enough for 3 or 4 cycles I think.

Chocolate this is the clinic Gender Selection (Family Balancing) in Cyprus I've read some very good feed back on ivf there, I can still send you the details of the forum anyway if you interested Its not a gd site.

Happy birthday inglewood!! :cheerteam: have a great day! :)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY inglewood x x

Hugs to all those poorly LO's :( hope they are better soon hate it when kiddies are ill x x

Pregnancy brain moment - messed up scan booking i booked 13th DH is off 20th so trying to rearrange at mo silly mare! Have also asked for the gender to be written down - we are all going FX I can rebook i think having the boys there will take my mind off it all just got to wait another 4wks now!

Maybe - FULL TERM yay not long now hun x i know you can do this make sure you tell people you are nervous or what you are worried about sometimes we keep it inside and if they know they might be able to make it easier and a better experience x x

Babymad, I estimated that if they continue to put on around 8oz-up to 1lb a week till my section they will be anything between 6.5-7.5lbs each! At 36wks! Which is good!! but heavy......Will get a weight estimate every 2wks, when I go on tues, betcha they are well over 3lbs each!! Hope ur asthma doesn't return like that!! what a scare.... Do u have asthma usually?

Deaks, hope ur ok? when do get repeat bloods?

Z, not long...ur almost 3rd trimester!! It's awful tho, I wished my pg with ds2 away as it was awful, so far this pg is ok in comparison.....so far.............

Thanks for all the birthday wishes!! 33 today! Waiting for a friend to quickly pop in then my mum and I having lunch in town. Ds1 has a dress rehersal for his cub show and ds2 starts tennis tonight, so tom we will go out for tea and maybe see The Muppets?? Got some lovely Boots Sanctuary Mum to be smelly stuff from Dh and boys, with chocs and more of my fab eye cream for all my bags and dark circles I've got for 9ys of nightshift!! lol

Off to dry my hair! Catch up later. xx

sounds lovely inglewood - kept meaning to say how amazing you look in the photos of your 4dscan day!! Cant believe you are preggy with twins and look that lovely!! You are definitely blooming x

Boys - plus DH are off to see muppets later ds3 and I get to go into town post parcels then off for some charity shop shopping FX for some lovely finds want some fabric - got a belated xmas present of a cath kidston patch book its awesome going to make a wee quilt for the baby :D

Happy Birthday Inglewood!! Sounds like your being spoilt, best way, lol.

Can't believe our quick the months have past. Need to start thinking when i start my diet, won't be the next couple of weeks as we're eventually moving next friday at last. Going to get a ph tester this time, so need to get that ordered. Then decided my which way to sway.

I hope all these poorly boys get better soon.

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Happy birthday inglewood x

Sunset my bag was packed about 30 weeks but it's totally sorted now after my stay in hospital! Been getting some twinges but keeping that to myself. Seeing the midwife at 1.30 for a bp check but will have both boys so expect it to be high!

Looking forward to holding dave but not pushing him out!

Trying to distract myself with a mad plan to buy another house as we need to to get a mortage that finishes before we retire so if we are going to up the mortage it needs to be in the next two years and a twenty year one. Plus then there is no money for ivf and no temptation to keep having kids lol!

Hi all, sorry i feel like im being very selfish to the group at the moment. Wrapped up in my own little fretting bubble and only seem to come on here for a whinge..im so sorry! Fretting that the blood results that come back today will either come back so low that there is no hope or just quite low which seems to heavily suggest boy from the trillion forums i have researched! Thought i had delt with my gd quite a bit, but perhaps i havent. Its awful to be thinking about number 4 when i dont even know what this one is let alone give it a chance to be loved and wanted! Anyway fx for lovely high hcg level results!

Inglewood, happy birthday! We must have been born in the same year...i am 33 in oct! Hope you have a lovely time tonight!

Maybe, i cant believe you are nearly there! lets hope those twinges are the start of something good!

Chocolate, i so know how you feel about all this. Perhaps we will do pgd together for our number 4's!

Charlie, excited for your scan. I wander how long you will hold out opening that envelope!

Hi everyone else. oooh and lavender yes its wells next the sea and yes i reckon mums on there own could be a great idea! saying that if no kids come we could go somewhere more convienent as we wouldnt necessrily need the beach to occupy the kids! Just a thought!

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Thanks for the link Kell

Deaks, know where you are coming from. Thinking about pgd has made me happier and will celebrate this little baby and pregnancy more, its taken away that shadow and allowed me to just enjoy this one. I do wish I could just learn to deal with the issue of no girl, but if there are other ways of getting that girl then I want to try that for our last child first.

Hi everyone else, I do read all the replies and reply in my head but I have the memory of a goldfish lol

Happy Birthday, Inglewood. Hope you are having a fab day!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...ODY4LmpwZw.jpg

Baby Button exactly 20wks

Boy Girl who bloody knows LOL

I read a thread on here saying that the North Cyprus clinic has had no success with gender selection IVF. Here it is if anybody's interested:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/high...s-anygood.html

Happy Birthday Inglewood!

Cute photo Charlie :D

I'm not sure if that post is in the private forums but I also just saw this thread offering a free trial to the private HT forums!

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/high...um-access.html

Genesis in Cyprus sounds like the place to go. They had some results back when I looked on ig

Deaks please moan away! I hope your results are good!

I am in killer mood. Took boys for a lovely lunch, had a great time but I am just so arsey (keeping it inside so boys are ok) I don't know why. Nothing has upset me. I just want to crawl into a hole. Blardy hormones

cute baby charlie!!

Zanacal, I read that, think for us it will be Genesis, will look at that link as thought it was just the normal membership I already have but may not be

Maybebabythree, hormones suck, Im always easily irritated in pregnancy lol

I think you're ok if you're a dream member chocolate :D

How does it work for genesis then? On the website i couldnt find any details about how long the process takes or any accomodation details like i could for the north cypus one.

Thanks for letting me have a moan. Feeling better about my levels as even though i havent had my result from yesterday back i found this website http://www.babymed.com/tools/hcg-calculator and basically my 18 or 19dpo (not sure which it was) level of 780 looks higher than the max for 18dpo (758) and between the max and average for 19dpo if you hover over the blue line on the graph. Just shows how incompetant my doctors surgery is when he let me leave thinking my pg was looking bad just because he didnt think to ask me if i possibly ov late instead of the 14 days average. Instead he worked out my dates from my LMP. Annoying!

Viewed the old farmhouse with a builder and structural engineer this afternoon and neither could see any major nasties so the renovation costs are looking not too bad. Got a very interested couple viewing our house tomorrow even though its not officially on the market yet so hoping we may be able to make an offer next week. Need to be extra nice to dh as he is in charge of the figures!

Hope you all have a nice fri eve...i've got a takeaway heading my way :)

Charlie, bubs is gorg!

Chocolate, sounds like a plan to give yourself something to take the pressure off this pregnancy. And you never know there could easily be a girl in there or if it is a boy, you might feel your family is complete anyway :)

Maybe, i expect you are in a killer mood cos you a carrying a great big bump around. The last stages are so tiring. Try and have a relaxing weekend...i hope dp is there to take the load.

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How does it work for genesis then? On the website i couldnt find any details about how long the process takes or any accomodation details like i could for the north cypus one.

Thanks for letting me have a moan. Feeling better about my levels as even though i havent had my result from yesterday back i found this website HCG Calculator and hCG Level Tool | BabyMed.com and basically my 18 or 19dpo (not sure which it was) level of 780 looks higher than the max for 18dpo (758) and between the max and average for 19dpo if you hover over the blue line on the graph. Just shows how incompetant my doctors surgery is when he let me leave thinking my pg was looking bad just because he didnt think to ask me if i possibly ov late instead of the 14 days average. Instead he worked out my dates from my LMP. Annoying!

Viewed the old farmhouse with a builder and structural engineer this afternoon and neither could see any major nasties so the renovation costs are looking not too bad. Got a very interested couple viewing our house tomorrow even though its not officially on the market yet so hoping we may be able to make an offer next week. Need to be extra nice to dh as he is in charge of the figures!

Hope you all have a nice fri eve...i've got a takeaway heading my way :)

Charlie, bubs is gorg!

Chocolate, sounds like a plan to give yourself something to take the pressure off this pregnancy. And you never know there could easily be a girl in there or if it is a boy, you might feel your family is complete anyway :)

Maybe, i expect you are in a killer mood cos you a carrying a great big bump around. The last stages are so tiring. Try and have a relaxing weekend...i hope dp is there to take the load.

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Deaks that's it, it takes the pressure off, we could have a girl although doubt it, and yes I may decide after all that I feel we are complete, just allows me to enjoy this little one more, like I should be.

I have found most of the info about genesis on the ht boards, think you can get pre-testing in the UK then fly out and stay somewhere locally, villa or hotel, near by and stay for 10 days. Think you book flights and accommodation separately.

Enjoy take away, we had chinese, although cant seem to eat that much in one go anymore.

Good luck with the house business xx

ps - yeah some drs seem so dumb when they dont ask if you ovulated late or anything, I have to explain at each scan that I ovulated day 21 so am 7 days behind, and said to the nurse on the phone about my 14 hcg reading that I ovulated late so am not far along, she still said sounds like a chemical to which I said Im sure it has only just implanted.
I used a hcg doubling timer calculator when I had my results back so may be worth googling that and having it ready to put results into to see how often they double. Showed mine doubled every 21 hours so was catching back up fast :-)

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ps - yeah some drs seem so dumb when they dont ask if you ovulated late or anything, I have to explain at each scan that I ovulated day 21 so am 7 days behind, and said to the nurse on the phone about my 14 hcg reading that I ovulated late so am not far along, she still said sounds like a chemical to which I said Im sure it has only just implanted.
I used a hcg doubling timer calculator when I had my results back so may be worth googling that and having it ready to put results into to see how often they double. Showed mine doubled every 21 hours so was catching back up fast :-)

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Yeah i think that could be the calculator i stumbled on too! did you get a second hcg level to use the calculator with after your 14 level then? Great news that they doubled every 21 hours!

Thanks for info on genesis! Definately something to bear in mind and although it seems a massive thing, i expect that once the money is saved up (how much is it at that one roughly?), the process is quite straight forward.

Yes I had 2 tests and was relieved they doubled every 21 hours and suspected twins but only 1 lol.

I think I was told between £7k and £10k for treatment and holiday accommodation/flights, and a reduced 2nd cycle if the 1st fails. Alot of money if I want to save enough for 4 cycles but worth it

Happy Birthday Inglewood! X

Deaks ~ Don't be too hard on yourself re the GD stuff, I posted when ttc that I wasnt sure whether to carry on as I couldn't do the diet 100% after being on it for 6 mths and I wasn't sure if I would be ok with another boy....as time went on I really wanted a baby not just a girl but look at me now struggling with it all....not for the first time either! We are only human so don't beat yourself up about it x Hope your bloods are all good xx

Chocolate and Deaks ~ I went to Dogus in Cyprus for PDG. Genesis has better results. I would consider the USA if you are going for hi-tech as their results are excellent. I have three hi-tech friends all due from now to when I'm due, obviously thrilled for them but still really hurts that we lost our little girl. I keep daydreaming that we will win the lottery so we can do PDG in the US and live happily ever after!

Kell ~ Enjoyed my night out, needed it to be honest! Hope you have a fab time too x

Sunset ~ my boys have all been late and I have been induced at 42 weeks with two so expecting the same this time round too!

Inglewood ~ I reckon they will be fab sizes :) I think I will stalk you when they are born so I can have cuddles! :)

Charlie ~ Hope you get your date sorted!


Hi to anyone I have missed x

Had one of those days today where you feel like a shit mum!! DH is in hospital as he's had an operation on his nose so I been worried about him. Had no time to play with boys....had loads of jobs to do and felt like all I've done all day is shout and moan, feel awful :( I've got no patience at the moment and DS3 is testing the boundaries!!
Hoping tomorrow is a better day for everyone!

Should be alseep - night all xxx

Inglewood, please tell us more about this magic eye cream. ;)

Morning all, Thanks for all the lovely birthday wishes! Had a nice day, lunch with my mum was nice and then after Cubs and Tennis, I got a HUGE choc b'day cake and then Dh and I had a chinese take-away (which wasn't actually nice :( usually is from there, was cold) but quiet night in front of Tv. Ds1 has a friend over soon, so maybe tomorrow b4 we get to the cinema.

GeCon, the eyecream has been the best (for me) and believe me I have tried lots over the past 9yrs!!!!! From £5-50!! This is from the Bodyshop it's £9.50 and called Vit E eyecream. It's a teeny wee pink tube, but last ages!! I went for a half price facial months ago at my hairdresser's and the woman there recommended it. So far it's helped alot!

Deaks, how exciting things are for u! New home (designed by u) and a new baby! busy times, a bit like me!! Well, a few of us are renovating and pg!! lol

Babymad, hope ur DH recovers well. As a teenager I had alot of sinus op's and wasn't nice but well worth it, hope he's doing well? Sure the boys were none the wiser that u were a bit stressed, today is another day for them and they soon forget what happened 2hrs ago nevermind yest!! (bit like me at the mo). You are a fab mum and sometimes I think we are too hard on ourselves for nothing. Glad u had a great night out! Stalk away too! Wish we could all have a wee cuddle of each of these new babies due over the next few mths (and our 2 new babies here)!!

I wish I could meet u all in Wells, but it's so so far for me, about 7 hours (about 360 miles?) Dh prob wouldn't come with me and it's a long way with 2 babies :( will be so envious of u all!! My oldest friend gets married beg june and I'm heart broken not to be able to go and I was possibly going to be bridesmaid (she wasn't sure if she could afford it after her 3 sisters). I've never been one before, tbh mainly as many of my friends are gay and the rest aren't married. It's about 4hrs away in an amazing Highland resort in the West coast and her 'Dh to be' has banned kids going (which I can understand) as he has tons of babies/kids in his family and he doesn't want them spoiling things, so she can't invite kids either! I couldn't ask my mum to look after 6wk old twins and I couldn't leave them anyway at that age, so can't go! Dh's neice puked on the carpet right next to my wedding cake after sneaking tablet from the dessert trolley (she was 18mths), so that was fun! I didn't mind having the kids there! Well, my ds1 was there and he was 2. So missing out on alot this summer, but SO SO worth it!!!

That's ds1's friend here, so they want to go out on skateboards and ds2 wants to make choc crispy cakes, so will pop on later...enjoy ur sat ladies...xx

Just popping in to say hello, Catch up later.

Evening ladies just popping on real quick to say hello! :) hope you're all busy enjoying your weekend :)

Deaks ~ when will you get your blood results back?

Inglewood ~ where in scotland do you live?

where exactly is this Wells place we're meeting at? :)

Norfolk x between hunstanton and great yarmouth however if no kids could choose somewhere easier!

Sunset, I'm on the West coast about 35miles from Glasgow. x

Wells by the sea looks lovely! Only ever been to Yarmouth, many many yrs ago with an old BF!

Hey!

Hope everyone's well!

Inglewood my mums on the east coast, not far from Edinburgh, she's actually here visiting us at the moment, haven't seen her since October :( I went out for a lovely meal last night and a few drink, I was nearly falling asleep at the table at 10:30 lol
My stupid eyes have flared up AGAIN!

I'm all finishes work now, quite glad actually as I can now relax and concerntrate on college work.

The puppies are good, they are a week old nearly and have more than doubled in weight and size! They are noisy little things, I was up 3 times last night sorting them out, between that and the constant peeing of a night I'm shattered! All good practise a guess.

A meet would be lovely but I'm thinking I may be a little too pregnant at that time.

Ds1 has gone snowboarding with his dad for a week, it was horrible saying good bye, I wanted to cry but managed to compose myself as I was at the ex's front door with his girlfriends family peering thought the door at me!

Aww I got a sweetpotato now! At first glance with my dodgy eyes I thought it was a slice of pizza lmao!