Dreaming Pink Due Date Group: TTC and Beyond

Hi Ladies! I haven't touched base here in a bit and am catching up on this thread. So many warm thoughts and prayers to you all. Ladybugs I will pray for positive results at your scan. So sorry you are going through the worry right now...
Charlee, I hope you are healing up quickly. I have missed you on here! I hope you have been feeling better, as I can't imagine what a scare you went through and I am so thankful you and your precious boys were kept safe. Meeks, glad you joined us on this thread! I am so excited to hear the results of your scan, and GeCon shortly thereafter!

As for me, I am finally feeling back to normal after a terrible UTI followed by an allergic reaction to the antibiotic for it. No attempt for this month as DTD was the last thing I could accomplish being in such pain! Luckily we were not planning to try this month anyway since I had basically been eating HE our whole vacation. I am back on the LE wagon now. I have an OB appt. on Tues. Hoping to get some Clomid as it has now officially been a year of charting and TTC for us this time around. Feeling optimistic that my Dr. will explore things at this point!

It should be an exciting week of news and updates from everyone! Prayers for positive news all around!

Reading this makes me want to start exercising like crazy! ;) So many good points here, Meeks!! Thanks for the insight.

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Originally Posted by meeks32

Well apparently the group due before us had more girl success, and the boy swayers are achieving amazing results, near 90% now! I also think we still have more theories to test with girl sways and there is so much conflicting advice on other websites people get confused. If anyone was on IG sway for example. Also it's much harder to trick your body into thinking it's in declining condition constantly, and still conceive. So girl swayers give up more tactics just to get a baby, which sometimes effects our sways. I also think clomid was seen as far too big a 'silver bullet' and don't believe the stats will stay as high for that. And the exercise stats only appeared recently so the vast majority of us were couch potato-ing it 'just in case' where now we see 1hr per day of cardio 6 days a week is having amazing success.

Also we can't forget we are kind of pioneering this swaying business as its only been going a few years and only recently traceable in any kind of statistics way. Atomic is only one (very amazing) person and she's learning too as we all go through this. In 5 years with thousands of stats to read we will know far more.

Blue swayers have it pretty easy in terms of the body thinking its high nutrient is easy. Snack, take multivitamins, do it every few days. It happens fast for them usually too so it's easier to keep up a sway.

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Reading this makes me want to start exercising like crazy! ;) So many good points here, Meeks!! Thanks for the insight.

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If I had my time again, I would. pm atomic about it first though, she said I shouldn't so far into my sway because I was too low BMI already and may stop ov. So its a bit of a case by case thing and perhaps works more effectively at the beginning of a sway when you have more weight to loose. Also make SURE you don't do muscle building exercise or weights, only jogging or treadmill.

Hi everyone! I know it's been a while since I've checked in, but I had to take a little break from the boards. As much as I was enjoying feeling connected to everyone, I realized that reading about everyone's GD was fueling my own. When I took a break, I was able to stop thinking so much about gender. I think I've finally reached a plateau where I'm feeling really excited about having a new little person regardless of gender.

I've been reading through pages and pages of posts... I'm hopelessly behind!

--Charlee, I'm soooo glad you and your boys are ok. What a life-shaking experience. I'm sure your job as a counselor will come in handy as you handle the after-effects. Do you think it will go the other way too, with this experience affecting your perspective as you council others?

--Ladybugs, I'll be checking regularly for updates. As others have said, thank goodness we have two kidneys -- I'm sure your baby will come out healthy even if he only has one.

--Emily, glad you're setting in to your new country, but oh my gosh, I can't believe your boy's misfortunes! Cat bite and finger in a door hinge -- what awful luck! How is he feeling now? And have you decided which doctor/tech you want, and when to book your scan?

--bunnywabbit, sorry your bfp didn't show up yet. Will your mil be around for your next AF-o too? If you're considering taking the month off, maybe also consider starting exercise... As Meeks says, it's getting fabulous results (though yeah, the BMI issue might interfere if you've already lost a lot on the LE). Wish I had known all this before I got my bfp!

--Meeks, welcome! So nice to see you here. I'm glad to see your chemicals finally stopped and you got a sticky bean! I have to admit this is the only thread I've been following, so I missed your big news. Were you still on clomid? If so, how wonderful your pink chances must be right now!

--3lb, any updates -- I must have missed whether you got the final word on your nuchal scan scare? How are you feeling?

--GeCon, you're among the next to find out gender... I'll be stalking! I bet you'll break this crazy blue streak! :)

AFM, I did the MaterniT21 at 10 weeks and got the all-clear at 11. I didn't find out gender from it, though... Still leaning towards staying team green. I have been playing with the idea of finding out the gender a month or two before I'm due, though, just for practical reasons. But I don't want to find out sooner than that, since I've pretty much come to terms with having another boy and I don't think I would benefit by having those extra months to dwell on it. I'd rather just spend those months getting excited about A BABY -- then I know I'll bond with him right away. I found out way too early last time and GD really got in the way of bonding because of all the worries I had about how I'd deal with a boy -- this time feels totally different already. I have so much excitement about this new little life, and I don't want to interfere with that by focusing on gender. So far, so good -- I can totally picture myself being happy with a brother for my DS when I finally meet him! And if it's a sister, well, that would just be icing on the cake (and then I wouldn't have to have a third kid, lol).

Isn't if funny how a second (or third or fourth) pregnancy goes so much faster than the first? I'm 13 weeks and I'm showing already. I'm also feeling the baby move just a little -- so early! I can't believe I'm already in the second trimester... time is just flying by. On the minus side, my headaches and lightheadedness (from the increasing blood volume and fluctuating hormones, my midwife assures me) is much worse this time around. I need to take two extra-strength Tylenol nearly every day for the headaches, and for a while it wasn't even working -- until my mw suggested downing it with a cup of coffee for the caffeine. I don't want to get addicted to caffeine again, but what a relief to get some relief from the headaches. Hopefully this won't last much longer; I do remember feeling much better at a certain point in the second trimester with DS.

Well, I know I've missed a lot of you in the personals, but I'm burning the midnight oil so I'll sign off for now... Still thinking of all of you!

myrainbowgirl, you are right, it isn't too long now and yes, I do feel excited, but mostly apprehensive as I fear that this might be the end of the dream for me of ever being a girl mummy as well as a boy mummy.

Looking forward to the results of your MaterniT21 test.

I have been wondering about the recent lack of success of pink and apparent success of blue sways too and I agree with both Ladybugs and meeks.

With Ladybugs as I do think that luck still plays a big part in it and with meeks as it does seem easier to get your body to believe that times are good with plenty of food, nutrients. I guess it is somewhat against nature to make your body believe that times are hard and your condition is deteriorating. That is not to say that we do not achieve this by doing what we are doing...

As for me: I know that exercise has been getting excellent results, but quite frankly I would have struggled to fit in an hour exercise every single day with running after an almost 3 year old all day, so I haven't really got any regrets here.

TTCPink, fingers crossed that your doctor will prescribe the Clomid for you and help you conceive your little pink bean.

Niva, nice to see you. Great news on getting the all clear from your MaterniT21 test and I still admire your patience of not finding out at the earliest opportunity.

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Reading this makes me want to start exercising like crazy! ;) So many good points here, Meeks!! Thanks for the insight.

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I think AS recommends at least 6 weeks exercising before TTC as it can raise testosterone initially. If you can squeeze it in I would do it. I wanted to do it fir my sway but like Meeks my BMI was an issue and i did not want to ruin my chances of Conceiving. Looking at our results and last months it does look a bit like someone up there is rolling a dice. Perhaps people react to weightloss in different ways? It seems so weird that there were so many pink results this time and now only Tree. Sorry if i have missed any lucky pinkies.

Ladybugs i have everything crossed for you and your little one. Where are you based? I think in Europe you can legally ask for a pic or opportunity to take one. I know some places are weird about videos but a photo shouldn't annoy them too much? You could also pretend DH is a luddite completely incapable of taking a photo on his phone and sneak a quick vid.

AFM we have told the boys and they both seem excited. DS1 has said that he only wants a baby if it is a sister though. Quite logically he said that he already has one brother so why would he want another? Not sure if my answer about playing cricket with one and football with another convinced him! DH has to go away for a work trip but we are hoping it wont effect the date of our 20 week scan at the end of next week.

Nivia, welcome back.

Yes I was on my third month of 50mg clomid, and very thankful to avoid the next round of more intrusive tests and fertility treatments. I'm freaking out though because my 11 week scan the ob showed me a potty shot perspective and there was what he and I thought was a penis like protrusion, and also the intelligender test said boy. I'm expecting a boy nub at my 12w scan tomorrow but will be thrilled if its a girl nub. I do know 11 weeks is the age of the genital tube thing, which both genders have, so the potty shot shouldn't be getting me down, but it is.

In time I will be ok, and even happy about a boy, but its hard while there is uncertainty, you know? If its boy I definitely need time to process, given the fact I tried so SO hard and will be a little disappointed, even though I knew the chance I was taking, and truly believe swaying gave me my best chance of my desired gender. This is our last child and although I will have no regrets with my sway, there is always that feeling of pain when I see my MANY girl mum friends play with their girls, or especially the mixed families with at least one of each, because that was my dream, to have at least one of each gender. I DID really want boys, I just didn't only want boys, you know?

Having said that, I do really believe you are given what you can cope with, and hey, maybe i'll just raise the best boys ever huh? Why give me a girl? lol. In all honesty, I would have no idea what one does with a girl. hahaha

But I sure would like to find out.

Well done to you staying team green. I do not have the resolve. I wish I did, and admire those who do!

ps we are due a week apart!

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I think AS recommends at least 6 weeks exercising before TTC as it can raise testosterone initially. If you can squeeze it in I would do it. I wanted to do it fir my sway but like Meeks my BMI was an issue and i did not want to ruin my chances of Conceiving. Looking at our results and last months it does look a bit like someone up there is rolling a dice. Perhaps people react to weightloss in different ways? It seems so weird that there were so many pink results this time and now only Tree. Sorry if i have missed any lucky pinkies.

Ladybugs i have everything crossed for you and your little one. Where are you based? I think in Europe you can legally ask for a pic or opportunity to take one. I know some places are weird about videos but a photo shouldn't annoy them too much? You could also pretend DH is a luddite completely incapable of taking a photo on his phone and sneak a quick vid.

AFM we have told the boys and they both seem excited. DS1 has said that he only wants a baby if it is a sister though. Quite logically he said that he already has one brother so why would he want another? Not sure if my answer about playing cricket with one and football with another convinced him! DH has to go away for a work trip but we are hoping it wont effect the date of our 20 week scan at the end of next week.

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bahahah my ds1 said literally the exact same thing to me! "I only want a sister, I don't need a brother, I already have one of those" followed by a disgusted glance in his brothers direction. haha

I truly, truly believe our opposites in this particular group is to do with length of sway. Most of us were on our sways 12-18 months or longer, and Atomic is theorising that the body may actually get 'used' to living in a low nutrient condition, and take that to be the 'new normal' after X amount of time. The stats spreadsheet sort of shows that, for people on the diet 25+ weeks the odds drop. Also many that sway for a long time tend to drop tactics to try and get pg. We have all been there. You know, chuck in an extra attempt, or you were taking vitex, or cranberry or asprin and drop one etc. Who knows. Some of us get so sick of it we toss several things at once. Of course we almost all keep the diet and try to stick to abstain or fr, but nobody can blame the long-termers for questioning tactics and becoming desperate to just get pg.

Its understandable, but also unfortunate. I know people keep saying my sway was amazing, but things like not exercising, eating diet upper limits because I had lost too much weight and almost stopped ovulating, the fact I introduced 1 piece of toast for breakfast (even though I didn't snack and that was my third meal) all add up, even though they were tiny tweaks, month by month, inched into.

I agree Meeks. I know for a fact that my condition was improving when I conceived as it simply couldn't have got any worse! I had 2 months of not ovulating prior to my bfp month and 1 of those had been whilst on Clomid. I was just too underweight and had to gain 2lb, although I did it as unhealthily as possible. I was on the diet for 8 months and know that I still had the whole control-freak boy mum attitude of 'THIS HAS TO WORK!!'

I am going to work on acceptance of being a boy mum now, something I've been in denial about for years. Those who seemed to be at peace with ds4 (Thorz & Mrs P) had the right attitude I think. I know for me I was still in a state of desperation. Not that I am casting aspersions on anyone else, this is simply an observation of me! Now that 'the worst' has happened (Crikey, how stupid I feel for saying that, especially in light of your predicament Ladybugs) I know I will be over the moon to welcome this LO into the world. :)

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Hi ladies!

Ladybugs sorry 2 hear the worry your little man is causing you! Is you appointment tomorrow? Hoping they give you some good news! Ultimately at the end of this all we want is a healthy baby!

I have also been thinking about the number of opposites we are seeing! I was only on the diet for 14ish weeks, I did lose weight but am wondering if I lost enough, like you say it's hard to trick your body!
The majority of time I am content with this being DS3, can visualise myself itch my boys :) but do have my down times, this weekend for example when I found out my friend is having a DD in December, didn't realise it would hit me so hard! Boooooo!
I have always loved the idea of 4 children but am wondering if I could do this again but then I think if I don't try I don't get, very confusing!

Meeks, just thinking about our sways and the opposites we are seeing .... so we think that being on the diet to long could become your bodies acceptable norm?
Excessive cardio for those with more weight to lose is yielding good results? Any other thoughts, it's all very interesting!