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Originally Posted by purplepoet20
After everything I read about soy and what a friend of mine did(she got a bfp) I decided to start low and slowly increase....It was just something I wanted to try....I'm not sure if it will mess with my O day, i guess I will know in a few days...
Dont give up until AF comes....Fingers crossed she stays away!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yahmama
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AF came for me this morning. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr[/QUOTE]
So Sorry....Hugs
So sorry, Lola :(Quote:
Originally Posted by LolaInLove
I'm sorry Lola and Yahmama! :(
Thanks everyone.
Still having cramps :worry: , cervix is very very high or it fell out :rofl: , I am starving but I just ate :mad: .... Looks like O for me at cd11 just like last month. I hope it is a good egg. I will attack hubby again tonight but looks like no cutoff for us so I hope the cranberry was enough for a girl :pray: . ph was 5.0 a little bit ago.
.... feeling cold chills in my stomach but i am burning up.
well...complete positive OPK today. i think the surge started sunday evening when we DTD. according to the docs today i should have O...but my OPK just got darker today so maybe not yet or tonight or tomorrow?. nevertheless i had the worst pains today during my shopping trip in Sainsbury's. it started like AF cramps then into mild labour pains....i thought i was going to pass out at one point felt nauseous and sick. it has calmed down now and i had lots of pinching sensations in the centre of my uterus..and i feel sore and tender now but now cramps.
well i still don't know if i have O or am about to...and sine hubby is not back until thursday evening...i may be out this month unless the 2 day cut off does it for me. i will BD thursday and saturday for good measure...but i don't hold much hope.
what do you girls think???
ps: just tested opk is now turning negative. so i Ovulated today probably early evening. wohoo...
fingers crossed the 2 day cut off worked..wil the egg still be viable by thursday evening i suppose not...:(
Gee, I need to check this thread more often! Hugs to you, TTC5! I can't believe it; so happy for you!:heart:
good morning everyone, how is everyone today?
how many DPO is everyone?
i am 1 dpo today...or so i hope so that i am....very tender so am not sure..usually i loose all tenderness after ovulation but this time i am still sore. could that be becsue i may have geared up to ovulate but didn manage. my OPK has started to fade last night..so am assuming if i were to check to day it may be negaitve??wil chek in a bit to confirm that later today.
could i ask anyone who is also taking clomid here and who CARES to respond, whether having follicles of 15mm be released at 16mm. why did the doc tell me that if i am lucky my 15mm follicle from monday should be released on tuesday. that gives me a 2 day cut off. hubby back tomorrow so am hoping to DTD. i had another follicle at 12mm. he also said i might be lucky enough to catch the 12mm on friday and saturday. i don't undeerstand the logic does that mean the 15mm may not be released or the egg is not viable so the 12mm should be big enought o be released instead?thats sound like double ovulation. really confused...so i am not sure if i am 1dpo today or still watiing to ovulate.
:S
I am taking Clomid as well. In my experience I have never O'd with follicles less than 20mm in size. The eggs aren't mature enough if they are much smaller than that. Once my follicle/s get to around that size (sometimes bigger) I have a trigger injection. Do you have a trigger injection to help the follicle/s release an egg?Quote:
Originally Posted by toomanyboys
I'm not sure if another egg can be released after conception occurs. But I guess that's how non identical twins are conceived?
no i won't be having any trigger shots as i am not currently under proper fertility treatment. i had to pay private to get myself checked out because i thought i was perimenapausal and underwent a test called the bodyclock test which suggested i still have a good ovarian reserve but that i have PCOS. that's when the doc prescribed me clomid. because i have 4 kids already (3 of which where threatened miscarriages) the consultant just told me to first loose weight, take BCP to regulate my cycles and when i am ready to conceive he prescribed the clomid for me but i am not being monitored on it at all. it is only because i am reading all this stuff on the net did i have to pay again to get the follicular tracking scan as my first round didn't work and i was worried about hyperstimulation.
so unfortunately, i am not getting anything with the clomid. trying my own remedies like progestrone cream, and robitussin to increase cm and pregestrone levels and diet. neither time i went for my consultation did they mention or offer me metamorfin or that they can use trigger shots or do this or that which is hugely annoying. they just told me to try for 6 cycles, then pause for 3 and try again and if it doesn't work then i should try IVF.
i wish i could get an IUI and trigger but that means more money which i haven't got!!!!
i am assuming that maybe not all follicles released are viable eggs so maybe that is what he meant when he said i could catch the other egg? i am not sure....you get tongue tied when you go to thesee appointments as you don't want ask all these questions and offend their field of profession. but yes i could ask so many detailed questions yet i forget until after my appointments!!grrrrr
as for my follicles he said that these can be released by the time their 16mm...so he assumed that i may O by tuesday...he didnt seem to say it would happen on wednesday. also why would my OPK turn negative. this means my 15mm should be released today to be at least 19mm. or my OPk should stay positive no? if i am still to ovulate?..so confused....
ps OPK negtiave today...so can OPK become positive and then negative and i still may have not O'd? also....can it become positive again like say tomorrow ? i never had a OPk go form positive to negtiave to positive again.....i think i am 1dpo and i did O.....oh well 12 days to go....last time i spotted at 12 dpo and AF showed up....fingers crossed my 2 ay cut off will do it....but i wont hold much hope....already i am totally dry and i thin with no cm it may not look so good yet again...
the LH surge is caused by oestrogen being produced by the developing eggs - so you only get the surge when the dominant egg is mature enough to be ovulated
if two eggs are ovulated it happens within 24hrs of each other (i.e. the same LH surge causes both to be released because the second was nearly mature enough when the LH surge started)
aww...thanks girls....well all remains to be seen now....doc told me to go on 150mg says 2-6 for me next round....my O pains were so bad this time i am dreading to have to do it all over again....i think i will then give it a break after that one...this time i will not obsess about symptoms...since last time i had all the symptoms of PG under the sun and never was...i will just aim to wait..it out...not...lol.....
wishing everyone better luck though....so happy for those with the BFP's it makes up for my dull days of the 2ww....lol
Is the doctor you see a fertility specialist? Obviously I'm not an expert but I would have thought 16mm wasn't big enough to release an egg. I might be wrong though. Everyone is different and just because I don't release an egg with a 16mm follicle doesn't mean someone else can't!
When did you start using OPKs? Clomid can give false OPKs if you start doing them too soon after the last Clomid tablet. I learnt the hard way. I thought I was going to O because I got a + OPK, but it was just the LH produced by the Clomid. Your LH fluctuates so the OPK might be quite dark one day and then faint the next. Was it definitely a positive that you got?
yes he is...it is a private fertility clinic...to do the whole assisted process it will cost me over £600 including medication but that would involve bloods, scan and monitoring. but since conception is a such touch and go thing i cannot afford to fail again and again IYKWIM...i managed to get th e clomid inlcusive with these scans but any more help and then i got pay for it. if i were to go to the NHS i will be put on hold for months esp as i am not an emergency case since i have children already...to get the scans and be referredand frankly i dont want to waste time. plus they wouldnt do much different apart maybe form scanning and blood works....i wouldnt eligible for IVF until i have tried everythign else for at 2 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bec
oh does clomid give false positives??i didnt know that...see i am learning something new everyday. the doc told me that the follciles ned to be at least 16mm or more of course to be viable...i am 100% sure i ovulated becasue of the cramping and stiches i have had all day yesterday today i have lots of stiches and cramping in the centre of my uterus so i am not sure whats that all about....my left ovary did not responde the clomid appearantly so i am surpised to get stiches there.
i caught the sure on sunday thought it was pretty positive then but yesterday it went darker then the control so i i knew it is completel positive, then in the evening it faded again was till positive. today it is negative.
all i can hope that i caught that egg or if miracles do happen i will release another today or early tomorrow an d then have hubby come in the evening to do DTD with me..:)....anyway...fx for all of us struggling with this. as for kids...i ahve 3 boys and 1 girl whom i conceived after an MC. she was a total accident. DH does not want anymore kids but i cannot imagine just stopping like that so we agreed we can try one last time for that girl...if it is a boy we would be ok too..of course but am hoping clomid, age, chees, cranberry and timing will all help increase my chances to give my beautiful daughter a life long friend!!!!
CD12 and O is waiting. I have been cramping all night and they are getting stronger but no "pop" feeling yet like I normally get. Didn't get to dtd last night cuz hubby was so tired he fell asleep with the boys. So looks like we may get a 2-3 day cutoff after all. I haven't been J&D so I hope my tubes are loaded with girls. We will dtd after O... whenever that happens.
I am so excited because I dreamt about a little girl asking for princess dresses. I wanted a tomboy but I would take a princess ;)
Spotting started today... :( pretty sure tomorrow is going to be cd1 for me again...Don't know what I was expecting the month right after a chemical...:(
Sorry yahmama. :( I hope next month is your month!
I have been having outrageous dreams! I dreamt i had quintuplets??!! WTF!!! 3 boys and 2 girls...eeek!!!
Well from 2dpo i have been very crampy, lower back pain which is easing now. Today im 4dpo and still feel crampy every now and again also a couple of times today felt abit of stretching pain in my lower stomach. I know the odds for BFP are against me but im feeling very positive.
Did/does anyone else had the cramps/aches and pains so so early? I feel quite in tune with my body and this isnt the norm for me.
My OV pain was extremely painful this cycle and not sure why (thought maybe to do with SP or vitex) i was in agony maybe cramps could be something to do with that.
As of about an hour ago, while driving, I offically joined the 2ww.... lots and lots of pain on both sides but lucky we were stopped at a train crossing (train comes every 20mins). When I came home I noticed a little bit of pink cm so I hope that is normal. Now I just have to wait to test!
I noticed that FRER has a deal on test... buy 1 2pack of test ($8.49 walmart +$2 off coupon) and get 1 2pack of test free with mail-in rebate. With the rebate and coupons that is like getting 4 good quality test for $1.62 each. I did take advantage of it since I only have 1 test left.
Well you already have 3 boys so maybe you will get twins :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyLea
Back in the 2ww. I am 5 DPO, and um....frisky as hell! All I want to do is jump DH! lots of cramps too.
LOL....wowee...your post made me laugh....well i hope your intuition is half as good so you at least get twin girls???how cool would that be eh????.....i was never for taking fertilty drugs...and when doc prescribed the clomid my only thought was..fine i'll try it providing i get a higher chance of having two girls...kind of got me motivated to take it...otherwise i hate all the risks involved and messing with my hormones as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyLea
welcome back purplepoet....lets hope second time round bring all the luck...
i am today 1 dpo.....i have had a sore achy lower abdomen with all osrt of twinges, pinches and af style sensations ALL day....it feels like i have done 500 situps and hurts to walk 'freely'...so find myself guarded and keeping my stomach muslces pulled in and not letting it all hang out as i feel so sore....some of you may understadn that sensation. i cannot even pull in my lower abs as it hurts..it really is like if you overdid it with your excercise.
i also had two occasions after peeing where yellow snotty like glob like EWCM came out. i think according to some forums i researched it is the cm that accompanies the egg as it is released to assist it with moving down the tube.
well, last cycle i had watery cm in minute amounts in the 2ww so it lowered my hopes for a bfp and made me suspicious that i was NOT pg...if this happens again i may be out. also i wanted to sahre some more info with you..
also here is something i found which i thought wwas quite useful and funny all the same....lol
How Pregnancy Happens
lol
:twins: twin girls would be lovely, DH would say otherwise...lol! That would be freaky tho, not only with dream, but a few months ago a gypsy lady stopped me in blackpool and just said 'i see you will have twins' :suprise: eeek!
Well this evening i been throught the stage of wanting to pounce on hubby and he aint even here, then burst into tears watching tv awards for no reason :confused:
I hope all our cramps and pains are a good sign and we soon get those BFP's rolling in.
Maybe it is the second egg wanting to be fertilized!
girls watch this its hillarious and fab.....lol
How Pregnancy Happens
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by toomanyboys
Umm... I hope DS1 didn't understand any of it but I think I will save it for when the kids get the sex talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by toomanyboys
You should always wait 3 days after your last Clomid tablet to do an OPK because Clomid causes the release of LH.Quote:
Originally Posted by toomanyboys
Sounds like you have O'd. Good luck! I hope Clomid does the trick for you :)
Rainbow, goodluck!
Yahmama, you may want to test again. I got a BFN at 12dpo with a FRER and then just waited for AF to arrive.
So ladies, AF is here :( but I will be dropping in every now and then!
Oh this thread moved fast! Fx for all others waiting to test!
1dpo... Oed CD12 so I hope it was a good egg :worry:, 2 day cut off and O+9? :confused:, I ended up needing rephresh CD11 (TMI but itching) :worry:, NO J&D :whip: but I was so tempted, and nothing but a few supps. :think: the worst right now but Hubby already promised PGD no matter the gender of number 3 :kissy: but since I am so very cheap and hate pregnancy I am :pray: for :pinksperm: and no more kids!
I want to test right now... I have 7 FRER's!
I am losing hope this cycle. I am 6 DPO, and I am already having my typical AF signs. Sigh.... I can't believe how long it is taking me to get pregnant!
2dpo today...can't really feel any symptoms thanks god...helps with not obsessing.....just feel like my middle is a bit loose an big...i am not sure it is becasue i have stopped excerciing for about 2 months now and maybe my stomach muscles just loosening up.
considering i had all the symptoms of PG and didnt fall PG the irony may be that this time i am....LOL...that be so funny and quite shocking....
i am hoping that i do feel symptoms as i did with my DD. with all my DS's i hardly had any prominant symptoms....
anyway.....FX for all those in 2ww......
xxxxx
How we all doing today ladies?? The weather here is horrible, raining and very cold.
Other than the miserable weather i feel great today took my nan out for a girlie day, went shopping then for a drink and some lunch.
No symptoms for me today.
awwww..happy lea....its crap in wales too..raining ALL day...feeling ok...spent all day cooking up a feast as DH coming back today....and wanna make him really happy and relaxed so when possible we can DTD...;)...lol.....not that i think it will do anything...but just will go for it...
my lower abs are feeling sore still....gosh my Ovulation has surely left a lasting impression on my uterous this cycle....my boobs are sore esp on the nipples and a bit more swollen than usual....i actually feel better this cycle apart from the sore tummy but much more energetic and upbeat...still lethargic if i am sat donw doing nothing, but am able to get up an do things if i need to...last cycle i couldn't even keep my eyes open or lift a vac!!!
i have no other symptoms as such.....oh no cm either...so not holding up much hope....anyway..here is for obsessing...the good thing of lack of symptoms is that i will not bother testing until 9dpo+ providing i feel more symptoms or suspect anything...otherwise it will be nice just to wait not waste any tests.
good luck every one wating..so sorry to those who missed out...stay positive and strong....:)
wowee.....i know how to get back into the in gender forums...whoop whoop i missed those....lots of ol friends back for ttc again....whohooo... for those of you also trying to get back...normal forum site does not work...you gottta go to your profile and clcik personalized forums in order to access all the forum blogs!!!:) nice to be able have access to ample forums like this....
Morning ladies.....3dpo...tenderness now dissapearing.....boobs a bit sensitive....but the best thing for me i managed to DTD again last night...so if my egg was still hanigng on...then maybe....O+20 may ave worked like last time....i don;t know just feel good that managed to DTD when i wanted and needed to.
i am may be out but i feel upbeat....lol....that cannot be Pg symtoms can it....
hope those waiting to test soon...get BFP's...those who got AF....keep trying...and those still waiting...good luck!!!!!
ps..another symptom if it is one that i have noticed is feeling gassy (TMI and blush)...and that is quite unusual for me.
pss: well...sicne i had DH contribution still inside and only J&D slightly this time...i ended releasing a bit more of DH this morning (TMI what are we like)...anyway....i decided to check my cervix and was a bit shocked to find it low and soft and slightly open? what does that mean i O on wednesday or even yesterday rather than tuesday???that brings my BD'ing right on O or at O+12 exactly. i am hoping that i O on wednesday as it keeps the likelyhood to 1-2 day cut off and my attempt last night to O+12. i had cramping really bad all of sunday, monday, tuesday was really bad with yellow ewcm. wednesday i had a little more globular snotty like cm but yesterday i was completely dry with minimal twinges and the odd cramp but was feeling tender with some thick streaks of yellow cm very little on my underwear. so i would think i have ovulated already and it would be safe to to BD. help me someone....