Sounds great ladies!! Tiffani I'm sorry you've been so sick. I hope you get all caught up with your shopping. Crazy time of year, but fun too!!
Printable View
Sounds great ladies!! Tiffani I'm sorry you've been so sick. I hope you get all caught up with your shopping. Crazy time of year, but fun too!!
I've always put off the shopping until the last minute. This year I started early (September!) and have been finished for a while, thank goodness. Now I'm just wrapping gifts from family members as they come in. Since we got the van, we've been on a tight budget and I kept thinking we wouldn't have as much, but considering my boys are the only grandkids/nephews, everyone keeps sending them stuff lol! They are so excited. My 3 year old wanted to write his first letter to Santa last week, and the only thing he asked for was green balloons lol. Wish I woulda known that before spending so much ;) haha. But my 17 month old is happy with anything you give him, so he wasn't too hard to buy for.
You know what funnily enough i read your post thinking aw barbies, aw dress up stuff, maybe if i'm lucky my little girl will make it and i will be able to buy some girls toys next year - then i read the last line of yours about the boys toys. I must admit i do enjoy christmas shopping for my boys (mostly lego, batman and trains this year) but would be nice to relive some of my childhood memories and buy girlie thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Cinss
I'm mostly done, and after all the projects we did today the kids are done, too. We are trying to simplify, so this year we didn't buy as much junk for the kids as we usually do -- they made a list and we sent it around to the relatives and got them each one thing off the list. And then they made presents for all the relatives, and my nephews (who have every toy known to man lol) are getting gift cards.
The only thing I still need to do is to get each of them a book (something we do every year) and pick up DH's gift. And then I need to wrap it all lol.
Thank you sweetie all my boys had it the week before so I was destined to catch it! But feeling slightly more normal now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ThreeMenAndALAdy
I love Christmas it's so exciting. Seeing there little faces Christmas morning is so priceless. Xx
I've haven't managed to catch up with this thread for a few days, and so devastated to read your sad sad news spinning. I'm at a loss for words over your tragic news, my heart and prayers go out to you xxx
Merry Christmas ladies! I haven't been on the boards too much lately, but wanted to be added to the roll call.
EDD 5/31, swayed pink ("lazy" swayer) and we're having BOY #3. I just found out yesterday. I have my anatomy scan to confirm in 2weeks but it was pretty clear. I am surprisingly doing well. I am a little sad, but not much. I am actually very excited to finally know. I just hope I get a decent reaction out of my family. They all wanted a girl so badly for us. The prospect of 3 boys obviously was a pretty good prospect, and I can definitely see myself with 3 lovely boys, so I feel blessed. We don't plan on having more, so hopefully my brother or sister will give our family some baby girls!
Spinning, hope you're holding up ok hunny, have you heard from your Dr as of yet?? I hope you and your beautiful family are ok xoxo
Congratulations Genie on your precious little boy! Im glad you are in a happy place with it all :)
I think I am the last (apart from any team greeners) to find out! I find out on the 2nd Jan at my anatomy scan. Really excited but also a little nervous that things are going ok. It'll be 7 weeks since my last scan so I have no idea if everything is ok in there. I just cant wait to see this little person!!
As for Christmas shopping..... I think I am mostly done. We're pretty strapped for money so I would have liked to get the kids a few more things but Im sure they will get spoilt from others so all good. Just a few things here and there to get.
Can I ask a question... What is your take on eating Christmas Ham?? Ive bought a ham and was thinking Id just heat some up for me - that'd be ok right? Would it be ok cold if I cut it straight of the bone or still risky???
Bimby- I did hear this afternoon and have been a wreck since. I didn't want to post because I feel like I am just getting this thread down and depressing.
The FISH results came back negative for trisomy 13, 15, 18 and 21. The genetic counselor and Dr were shocked.
Which means I still don't have an answer which just makes it that much worse. I'm tired of googling for what I did or did not do or could have done and just want them to give me an answer. I feel like if I don't have that answer then I don't know if HT will help or not.
What they will do now is test every single chromosome (since they only tested those few) and then if that shows nothing they will do a microarray of every chromosome and look closely to see if there are any weird dna issues going on within the chromosomes.
My midwife said me and DH should also have that microarray done.
I'm so mad that this has happened to me twice with girls. I feel like the universe is seeing how much I can handle before breaking down. And now I just want an answer and I'm not getting one.
Yay, Genie! Sorry you didn't see pink, but I'm really glad you're so happy with your sweet little boy!
I'm also glad to hear that I'm not the only one scrambling to get last minute Christmas stuff bought and wrapped. I normally love Christmas, but this has been such a stressful holiday, what with working like an animal, having a rambunctious two year old, and um...being pregnant! I'll be so happy when the craziness has passed, and I can focus on the craziness of transitioning Wyatt out of his crib and into a "big boy bed", so we can move the next inhabitant into his place! :)
Jesus, spinning, I can't believe it! Surely there must be something in the microarray or the chromosome assay that will shed some light on what is happening. Once they find it, they can certainly evaluate for that with PGD. I'm praying that you get your answer, sooner rather than later...Quote:
Originally Posted by spinningmadly
I know :/ they said 2-3 weeks. which seems like an eternity.
I am so frustrated. we eat organic and I"m so picky about chemicals and this and that and this stuff just keeps happening.
My next door neighbor smokes throughout her pregnancy and her baby is totally fine. (no offense to anyone that smokes)
I just don't get how this is fair.
Oh Hun I'm so sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by spinningmadly
Life is so unfair. So intolerably cruel, and so very very unfair.
Why do people who abuse their bodies still get healthy babies, but others that do everything right don't?
Why do people that betray their husband into pregnancy through deceit and lies get their dream gender, but honest and morally flawless women just can't get that dream girl/boy they so dearly wish for?
It's unfair, all of its unfair :(
I wish there was a way to make it right, I wish that doing the right thing meant getting the right thing, I'm so sorry your hurting and that you have been dealt life's low blows.
I really truly hope for you that you finally get lots of rainbows and sunshine
Spinning, that is so unfair :( I wish you were able to have the answers and not have to go through more rigmarole to find out. Im so sorry you are being put through all this. I would be pi**ed too. I remember when I was doing IVF I was asking the same questions you are now. Why can people on drugs/smoke/drink and people who abuse get pregnant and have perfectly healthy children, I still dont understand and I never will. All I wish for is the best for you and your family, please dont feel like you are "letting down this thread" as you said, we all want to know how you are and what you are finding out, we just want to be there for you to support you through all this, I hope you know that - Hugs to you xoxoQuote:
Originally Posted by spinningmadly
I'm wondering now if it's mthfr.
I am assuming if I go ht they will be willing to test for and treat that if it's a problem
Spinning~ So sorry you have yet to get any answers. :( Praying you do very soon and keep you in my thoughts always! xxx
Bimby~ As for the ham question, I hope others chime in as well but this is what my doula/midwife told me when I asked her about holiday foods. I wanted to know how safe the ham would be and she said once its fully cooked, then refrigerated left overs are generally fine to eat hot or cold. Of course you can make up your own mind. I still can't bring myself not to reheat, even though I do trust her.
Ladies if the ham is baked in the oven it is different than that of ham style deli meat. Deli meat is processed and has risk of cross contamination and such. A ham that goes from your oven to fridge is perfectly safe to eat cold the next day, I just wouldn't go a day after that without reheating.
Spinning please don't feel like your bringing the board down when you post. You are on our minds a lot, and we want to know what's going on with you. I wanted to ask you yesterday if you got the results back but was afraid too. This is your group too and we are here to listen and help if we can. I hope you find the answers you need to move on to ht.
I have no idea why you have to go through this again, but I hope something positive does come out of it down the road.
Thanks TM&AL-
I just feel like this thread has slowed down since my news and you guys can continue to talk about normal things..
and any GD etc etc, I understand the GD despite having an unhealthy baby, I don't want anyone to feel like I am not sympathetic to GD still.
I found out from my midwife today the last labs the other dr ran after my last loss they forgot to do MTHFR!! (which is a genetic issue where you can't process folic acid I believe but it can cause clotting issues too) anyway she said we will have to do that when I come in. I was pretty irritated they totally missed that.
I agree, spinning we are all here for you totally any time you need us! We all love you lots and I just wish there was something I could do to make it all better for you xxQuote:
Originally Posted by ThreeMenAndALAdy
Ive added you to the front page. Be sure to let me know if anything changes at your next scan :)Quote:
Originally Posted by genieinabottle1
Thanks for the Ham infor ladies :) I will be certain to cook it then refigerate, awesome news for Chrissy :)
Quick question.. I have a pain in my calf, feels like a constant cramp.. Of course my anxious mind goes straight to DVT/blood clot. SHould I call my Ob's office of just wait it out in case its just a pulled muscle. I dont want to seem like a hypochondriac lol
^^That depends...is it tender and sore to the touch? Or is it entirely internal pain, like you had a bad Charlie horse that hasn't gone away? Did you do anything physically active recently that could cause a muscular issue? Do you have a history of clots?
If you have a reasonable explanation for the hurting, it is not sore or tender to the touch, and you don't have a history of clots, I would see what it is like tomorrow morning. If anything seems off (it's sore on the outside, you have had a clot or a history of clotting, you did nothing to bring it on and/or didn't have a Charlie horse or anything), I would ring the office. Just in case. They can give you more warning signs of a clot.
I am doing the Christmas thing at my folks house, so I am not real active online right now. But I read when I get a chance.
I am still sending prayers for some "finalization" to you spinning. I was not aware MTHR could cause defects in a fetus. I am positive for one aspect of MTHR and a second different clotting factor. It's why I take anticoagulants during pregnancy. I would be pretty irritated as well if they didn't test me during a prior loss for something that basic. My first thought was a balanced translocation, but I am sure they either already tested you and DH or plan to in order to see if that is the problem. It was one of the things they tested us for, since it can be a silent issue. But, again, I am so sorry you are having to deal with all the questions and heartbreak that comes with it.
I am happy to say that I have not used my Doppler in four days. I went through a period for a while where I was flipping out. I dunno why it was so much stronger, but I was using it daily. I can feel her more often now and am less concerned with finding her heartbeat. She must be getting stronger, her kicks are more obvious, even through my placenta. I am excited to see her (and, naturally, reconfirm she IS still a she!) and make sure all is well with her on the 28th. I have been doing shopping and even placed a HUGE cloth diaper order with my favorite WAHM. I am picking out some fabrics and designing some embroidered diapers. Diapers are one of my favorite parts...I am getting my second son some cute embroidered ones as well. He is no where close to being out of diapers (I am even concerned that my oldest will still be in diapers by the time this one comes in may...training is a huge bust so far). But anyway. Just giving a little update :) Anyone else doing baby shopping? Or window shopping since its Christmas and funds are low?
hot dog-
I also wondered if i should have been on lovenox but the clotting factors seemed to be low?? so they said just the baby aspirin would suffice for that.
I was just looking over our binder of info from the last testing round and i just realized the karotyping results said normal BUT they say this result does not exclude possibility of subtle rearrangements below the resolution.. so we could have missed a translocation apparently which is I guess why they suggested a microarray
Me too, hotdogz!! Is your WAHM diaper-maker a local gal, or does she make diapers for a broader audience? I am getting so excited about picking out cute new fluff! DH did make a good point yesterday, though, when he asked, "Wouldn't it be a lot more cost effective to re-use Wyatt's old newborn diapers?" They are all gender-neutral (because we were Team Green with him), so there really is no excuse not to use them! Sigh. Can anyone think of a good reason for me to buy some more? Anyone?? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hotdogz&boyz
Cramps in the legs are super common and there are lots of things that cause them when pregnant. Try adding salt into your diet, drink plenty of water and give it a massage and stretch. BUT if you notice swelling or tenderness in your leg, contact your doctor in the rare chance it is a clot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimby
It is tender to touch but doesnt feel like its on the skin. Sort of feels bruised when I touch it. It seems to be better the more I walk around.. I might just call health direct and see what they say... I hate being paranoid but Id rather check it out. I havent been getting cramps, it just seems weird to just happen out of the blue.. Thanks for the advice Cinss & Hotdogz xQuote:
Originally Posted by hotdogz&boyz
Off to the Dr's just to get it checked, I didnt want to wait till after Christmas just in case. I called Health Direct and they said see a doc in the next 24 hours. Better to be safe I guess.
Yep definatly better to be safe :) goodluck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimby
Doc wants me to get an ultrasound just to be safe so she booked a scan for me at 4.30 - Im happy that at least I'll know so will stop worrying.. I wonder if the tech will look at bubs if I ask nicely lol
I'm fine :) No DVT but Im broke! Cant believe the cost of the scan!! I didnt ask the lady to take a peek at bubs, I was dropping hints but she didnt offer.. ah well.
aah well, peace of mind = priceless :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimby
Glad there are no clotting issues bimby! It's better to feel safe and sure than worry.
And spinning, yeah, I would guess they decided on microarray to check more subtle issues. Which, I would think would be more likely to be the problem because you carry the babies for so long. I have an online friend whose husband had a balanced translocation, but it's a "major" one (classic two-chromosomes are switched in location) and her babies with the wrong translocation are lost between 4-8 weeks. So I would venture to say IF that is the issue, it's more subtle in nature. I would certainly ask the doc about lovenox. I also take aspirin during pregnancy (lovenox in the am, aspirin in the pm). I also had a healthy pregnancy before they found the clotting issue, so it doesn't mean it's not part of your issue. Forming small clots in the placenta can lead to all sorts of issues (mine were large clots that caused very early miscarriages). I hope it's not insensitive of me to be talking about it with you. I just want you to have some answers. I remember feeling so hopeless when we lost our fourth baby in the same year. I thought I would never be pregnant again. Especially since everything seemed fine with getting pregnant and the problem was keeping them instead. So I got a (very) small taste of that feeling of confusion and hopelessness. I know yours is 100 times stronger and don't pretend to know how it feels. But I do hope they test absolutely everything possible to find out what is wrong and get you a healthy daughter.
And TTP, my CD lady had a larger-reaching store until very recently. Her diapers were sold all over the USA and Canada. She lives in Washington state. But she is in the process of transferring it to someone else (she and her mom did it and her mom was having arthritis issues and she has three small children and it was getting too big for them). So it is closed until the summer. But I have (literally) 50 diapers made by her for my boys and really want some girly ones. So I emailed her and asked if she could make some. And she said yes. But I only ordered 4 small. I am not getting any "newborn" diapers. We also have a rather gender neutral stash for that stage, so I am not adding to it. But her smalls will last til 4ish months, her mediums til 8mo, her larges til 2+ depending on child-size. So I got 4 small, 4 medium, and 8 large :)
Hotdog - thank you so much for the insight. That actually makes sense that maybe thats why I carry them longer.
It's not insensitive at all. I am pretty realistic about it. Especially after two times. I just feel like no one is helping me (professionally) or giving me any assurances which is where I so frustrated. I know really they are just waiting for the results which just seems like a lifetime right now. I made an appointment with a peri at Duke who is supposed to be good, an RE there and a reproductive immunologist and a genetic counselor.i was also told a hematologist might help. Right now I'm focusing on what's wrong or potential issues and I think that's keep me from going down to a really depressed state. Once I have all the test results and I've talked to them all I want to do a phone consult with dr potter at hrc just so I can look forward to that for next year.
Does anyone know what I can use for acne that is safe?? Im suffering badly again and I cant stand it!! I usually use a low dose (2.5%) benzac cream but it says check with doc if pregnant or b//feeding so that concerns me.. Anyway, anyone know of a fairly natural remedy I could try?? Ive tried vinegar thinking it would kill the bacteria like my cream did but it doesnt seem to work :(
Spinning, when is your appt with the Peri?? xx
My forehead has totally broken out with this pregnancy that I can't wear liquid foundation anymore. I don't know if there is any kind of medicated scrub or lotion we can use while being pregnant. I just plan on going after it after I have my baby. I hope you can find something to help though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimby
The acne has killed me this pregnant. Never had it with any of the boys. I swear this acne on my face is worse than I was when I was a teenager. I have very few large breakouts, but tons of little tiny ones that you can still see on my forehead, cheeks, chin, and behind my ears. Sounds so disgusting. I haven't been able to find anything to help it, but I use a clarisonic with my regular face wash and it finally seems to be helping. I will be stalking for more remedies.
That rotating facial brush is clarisonic right? I though of trying one of those brushes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandles
I use an organic face wash, two kinds. One is green a d herbal, the other is a charcoal base. I didn't get acne this time though, thank goodness. Mine was horrendous with the first two. I would suggest trying natural treatments like lemon and other things!
Yes, and it's awesome!!! A little pricey, but totally worth it! It removes the dead flakey skin and leaves your skin feeling so soft (minus the darn acne, lol!). I use it at least once a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly Spirit