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Go two & purple! Fx for you.
Clomid last night knocked me out (I took it at 7pm), then I woke up just after midnight hot & sweaty and couldn't sleep until 4am! Today I've been freezing cold BUT it's the coldest day so far this Winter. I worry my hyper metabolism is going to make me bounce back and forth between high and low E while taking the Clomid and not work optimally...
Do any of you guys know if I am swaying BOY! I have been taking the target brand prenatals I am about to run out. I will be attempting again at the end of next week. My prenatals I just noticed have soy in them should I switch to the women's one a day or will it matter?
I've always been a big coffee drinker and I have 3 boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Bear
I don't know anything about caffeine effecting implantation.... I've always had 2 to 3 cups a day and have always gotten pregnant the first try. :-)
Maybe I should start drinking coffee lol. I'm not a coffee person either.
Blue bear - I asked atomic about coffee as I drink 2 cups per day & she said that amount was fine for a blue sway. I was trying to cut back to 1, but really love my 2 so once atomic said 2 was ok, I didn't bother trying to cut back.
Nann - good to see you back in here. Wow, the amount of exercise you do makes me look so unfit lol. I struggle fitting my exercise in, that's why I've never exercised much before. My dh is rarely home in time to help with dinner/bath with kids. And as I do the bookwork for the business I am not that active during the day & am busy working. I do try to knock off work before its time to cook dinner to exercise though.
Gagirl - not sure sorry.
I think today is o day. Temp didn't rise this morning. We bd the last 3 nights, but haven't been able to fit any morning bd in, which is a shame, really wanted to bd this morning, but dd3 was already awake. Plan to bd again tonight.
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Thanks. I'm guessing it's why I had a girl first. Or one of the reasons why anyways. I'm also lucky enough to make my mom living close by and she stays at home to nanny my niece. So I have a built in babysitter for free basically. Allows me to go workout when I need to. I just need to keep my calories high and healthy with all this burning going onQuote:
Originally Posted by farmgirl33
I wasn't much of a coffee drinker when trying for either boy. I did drink falvoured milk with coffee in it most days but I'm not sure how much coffee they really contained, probably less than 1 instant.
I drank lots of tea, 2 to 4 cups per day.
A women's multi might have too much vitamin A for ttc. Can you get a different prenatal brand? I'm not sure how much soy it is so maybe don't worry. Soy is in lots of foods so I know I consumed it. I also conceived DS2 taking soy isoflavones.Quote:
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Purple thank you! Atomic said that it's not enough that will hurt my sway. Hope I'm on the right track with my sway. Also my weakness is sweets should I avoid all sugar?
Probably best to stick with tea for a boy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nann3r
I'm a sugahollic so I had lots of sugar. Those flavoured milks I drank were very high in sugar and I love cake, cookies and chocolate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gagirl0221
Gagirl, I don't think you have to avoid sugar altogether. I definitely ate sweets when we conceived DS1 and DS2. I had dessert almost every night when I got pregnant with DS2. I think it's your overall diet that matters more.
Good luck ladies that are attempting tonight or the next few days, cannot wait to hear some exciting news from you all, I will be attempting again March, April this year!
Gagirl, I really wouldn't worry about the trace amounts of soy in your prenatal. Sugar is fine so long as you plenty of fat & protein with it. And your body makes fat from sugar/carbs, NOT fat, and that sways blue via multiple mechanisms.
Nann, your fitness regimen is awesome! I'm in awe. I love both yoga and pilates too. I would also recommend avoiding coffee and drinking plenty of tea instead. Remember that many boys moms have so many strong blue friendly aspects going for them that they can 'afford' to do girl friendly things like drink tons of coffee, have only one attempt, take clomid etc and still get boy and after boy. But that doesn't change the fact that those tactics still sway pink.
I'm trying to get up the courage to ask a neighbour/colleague (married to a 40 year old woman with whom he has a 2 year old son, I have noromantic interest in him) if he'd be willing to be a sperm donor for me. I'm just not sure how best to broach the topic and if I should talk to him privately or invite both him and his wife to dinner or something? I'm pretty sure they had fertility struggles/took a while to conceive a THB due to her age and might not have another child, so I'm hoping they would welcome the opportunity of half siblings for their son. But I don't want to alienate anyone...suggestions? They know I have plenty of money & family etc support and I wouldn't require anything from them other than a once a year visit. If they want more involvement than that I'm totally open to that, whatever they feel comfortable with. I also love this guy's mom, she's an amazing woman and grandmother. He is her only child and I think she'd be pretty pleased...
It's soooo hard finding a good, KNOWN donor with the required/desired characteristics here when I don't speak the language as well as I'd like. I see men out in public that I would like to approach but I've yet to manage contact, especially as so often they have a wife/GF with them.
LOL at sugaholic purple! My pain meds make me crave sweets, especially anything fruity, like crazy. It makes hormonal cravings (excluding pregnancy) seem mild. I have gummy candy & popsicle addictions in particul but try to eat fruit instead as much as I can. Also I'm obsessed with pound cake and madeleines.
Honestly Maiden, I think I would be horrified if a female colleague approached my DH about being a sperm donor, especially if she knew he was married with kids. I would be extremely offended. I think you should stick to unmarried single men or a sperm bank. I hope I don't seem too harsh, but it's how I would feel. I would be much more open if my best friend approached me about being an egg donor or a surrogate, but not after my DH's sperm.
I agree with you there Essence. I would be very upset too if someone asked my husband to be a donor. I thought they had sperm donor clinics ect??? My aunty had to use a sperm donor and had a photo ect of the donor .
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Originally Posted by Blue Bear
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Originally Posted by Kmomofthree
This is a question I wanted to ask! does coffee caffeine really sway? because with my 3 boys I didn't drink coffee at all, I used to hate it! I still don't like the taste of it need it extreamly sweet and milky, but feel like I need it just to get through the day sometimes.
If you are ment to do the opposite what you did to get boys am I ok drinking it now?
You just want to be my clomid buddy lol jokingQuote:
Originally Posted by purple
I'd feel the same. I think the only situation I can see where I'd be at least somewhat okay with that was if one of his two best friends asked him to donate sperm because they had something wrong with theirs and couldn't have kids because of it. I just see it causing too many issues trying to use a known donor, especially one that is married with or without kids. It is far simpler and less complicated to just get an anonymous donor.Quote:
Originally Posted by essnce629
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Originally Posted by maidentomother
Does having side effects mean you know clomid is working, when I took my 1st round at 50mg I did not notice any side effects and it probably didn't work as still o'd late
Some people get hot flushes from it. I don't recall anything like this and it worked 3 times for me. Everyone just reacts a bit different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beautifulrainbow
Coffee is supposed to sway pink and tea sways blue. Atomic doesn't know the reasons exactly so it may not be the caffeine in coffee that sways because there is caffeine in tea too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beautifulrainbow
Obviously lots of women who drink coffee still have boys and lots that drink tea have girls (my mum is a massive tea drinker and had 2 girls) but the stats show some sway factor for each drink.
Maiden, have you been using an anonymous donor sperm at the moment? I agree with the others that is would probably be a bad idea to ask. I'm sorry it is so hard to find a known donor. My sister will also be having a baby at some point with donor sperm but she will have to get it anonymously as the close male friend she has didn't want to donate (I'm not sure the reasons). She has already been advised that the best option is to use IVF as they don't like to waste donor sperm on insemination, but it is hard to get donors in Australia because they are not allowed to be paid.
IMO Tea is more blue friendly because it often contains antioxidants and/or herbs. Coffee is basically devoid of nutrients making it more pink, plus I think some people use it to curb hunger which would also sway pink because that would decrease caloric intake. Coffee also tends to have more caffeine in it than tea and most people usually just have a small cup of tea versus a large cup (or 2 or 3+) of coffee which I believe to be more pink friendly since caffeine in large amounts is unhealthy. Just my two cents on the coffee vs. tea debate. :)
My husband is a huge caffeine drinker, a couple large cups of coffee a day, then usually a Rockstar energy drink every work day as well, then in the evening he drinks iced tea. This does not bode well for my blue sway :( But I guess you can't control everything but I don't drink caffeine at all, minus maybe one cup of RRL tea a day, so maybe I can counteract him, lol.
beautifulainbow, I would not base anything on MY symptoms bc I am a freak of nature, but since many people do get symptoms on Clomid the fact that you didn't notice any may mean it had less of an effect. But even though you Oed late, maybe you wouldn't have Oed at all without the clomid? So I wouldn't necessarily assume NO effect.
I would NEVER EVER use a anonymous sperm donor. Sperm banks don't provide enough info for me - I have to meet the man in person. I was created by AI using a known donor (who WAS married with a child at the time), so I know how lucky I am to have known my bio father. I think it is extremely unethical IMO to have children without allowing them contact with their genetic parents.
When I was married I think I would have been okay with my DH giving sperm to a friend, provided I approved. But I know I don't have a 'normal' attitude, I am very difficult to offend, so unfortunately I'm not surprised to hear your opinions. I definitely don't want to offend anyone...and I appreciate the honesty. Though I really wonder if you were in my shoes, would you be happy to use anonymous sperm? Also frozen sperm is not nearly as good as fresh.
I am currently using a known donor but he is not ideal and has a genetic form of hypothyroidism. My other option is to try to pick up guys at clubs...I would have to be totally upfront which is a little awkward! I think it's worth trying, I'd be doing it already if my pain were more manageable.
I'm all for using a sperm donor you know. I totally get that for sure. But it's def not going to be my husband! I think it's more appropriate to use someone single OR if you want to use a married mans sperm you talk to his wife and him, not just him. That's just my two cents! I would just struggle knowing my husband has another child with another women. All with good intention of course. No foul play. I would just struggle with the idea of that. Personally. :)
Maiden I'm not talking to you btw! I'm talking to people in general :) I read my post and realized that sounded like a direct response to you and it def wasn't just to clarify! :p
Totally appreciate the honesty! I would never want to make another woman feel uncomfortable. I would never want to stress a marriage. I realise people can't help how they feel so even knowing it's good intentioned doesn't necessarily help.
I really like his wife too, so I'd especially not want to upsrt her.
Well I def think going that route is better than picking up guys at clubs! :) that would be really awkward. And you know little about them in such a short time ya know?
Maiden you are saying your sperm doner is not ideal.. May may still end up with a child with Abnormalities. Nothing wrong with my hubby and I, but we have ended up with 3 boys with ADHD, type 1 diabetes and learning difficulties.
Has anyone here used injectibles? I'm debating moving to those from clomid but they're so expensive. Clomid is $20 and they're $600 but the chances go from 8-10% to 15-20%. Af is due tomorrow and I'm feeling symptoms so getting depressed. Especially after the false hope of the cp last month.
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I'm so annoyed. I was POSITIVE that O day was yesterday. My ewcm is gone, my cervix was high and out of reach.... by yesterday evening it lowered a little bit so I was sure it had happened. This morning... no temp spike. And my cervix is high again. I'm still having intense cramps, cm is creamy.
I'm quite annoyed that I missed my positive opk.
Anyway, what I'm worried about is that our one attempt was too much of a cut off. We dtd Sunday night.... I had ewcm and cramping. (My cramping doesn't usually last this long). So today is Wednesday and I haven't O'd yet. The e4d rule would put us at dtd tomorrow right? But if I O today then it'll be too late and I just have to hope that the spermies lived long enough to catch the egg? I'm nervous because we've been doing FR and he even released 4 hours before our attempt... and then when we dtd he released shallow. So now I'm scared that there wasn't enough.
I know I probably just need to chill out. Thanks for letting me vent lol
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Keep your hopes up Quinn your not out yet.
Maybe you could justify the injectibles just for one cycle, taxmas is coming you know :), just so you could give yourself peace of mind that at least you tried it.
Quinn I've got my FX so tight for you! I so hope you get a BFP this cycle!!
Kmomofthree, sometimes the temp rise can be a bit delayed as BBT is not 100% accurate in pinpointing O day (although it's way better than just using OPKs). Your body may also have geared up to O then didn't for whatever reason. It IS possible to get pregnant with an O-3 attempt even with second batch. With my second loss, we had conceived with an O-2 attempt and DH had released 5 or 6 hours prior (didn't know he'd helped himself until after we'd DTD). I'd just stick with the E4D pattern because if you O'ed today and you DTD today, then you'd end up with two attempts in the fertile window. If you end up with just the O-3 attempt then that's pink friendly because there would be fewer swimmers left.
Ok thank you. I just needed reassurance. Each time we've ever ttc we just dtd all the time... and I have all boys. It's hard for me to imagine one single attempt working.
Nann, I trust my intuition 100% and I am SUPER decisive; I feel confident in my assessment of 99% of people in under 15 minutes of interaction. Often within seconds. So I don't need much time at all! I'm really good at picking up....or at least I used to be, in the US, I haven't tried here yet. But I have a lot of confidence so if there is someone appropriate I have a good shot. Bringing up the sperm donor issue isn't something I relish but I have nothing to lose and there's no real bad outcome. I can handle rejection.
Ive also seriously considered trying gay clubs, as I'd love to have a rainbow family. And in that scenario a gay couple may/should feel less threatened/concerned about sperm donation stressing their relationship, I would think?
Beautifulrainbow, of course it wouldn't be the end of the world but I would prefer to avoid as many genetic health issues as possible. I already have a dominant autoimmune condition (rheumatism) so I'd prefer not to have his gluten intolerance/hypothyroidism which is also dominant autoimmune. Mental health issues don't bother me though, they generally correlate with high intelligence so often a good thing, plus they make people interesting. I don't necessarily consider them flaws like I do many more visible/physical aspects. Since I have the opportunity to choose my donor (which I wouldn't to the same extent if married) I want to make the most of that by making the best choice. So my situation isn't really comparable to a married couple's.
Quinn, I used injectables last month and had a great response, 4 mature eggs, great hormone levels, lining, nice 14 day LP, followed by the heaviesr, most normal AF I've had since I started swaying pink. I had 5 days low dose FSH (Gonal F) injections. See last month's chart for more details. Unfortunately my donor was unable to successfully ejaculate until at least 6 hours after I Oed which is probably the primary reason I didn't get a BGP. His hypothyroidism negatively affects his sperm too.
Kmom, that is soooo frustrating I had a cycle in which the same exact thing happened to me except I Oed a lot later in my cycle, later than is normal for me even as a naturally late Oer. Our bodies can really mess with us when swaying & TTC, and it's common to have an O fakeout, so to speak. Ive learned that temps are usually much more reliable than other signs. I wouldn't attempt until tomorrow but I would definitely attempt tomorrow in case you don't O for another day or two which unfortunately is always possible. Though I hope you see a big temp spike tomorrow!
I have missed the e4d rule, what is this either please explain or copy the link for it for me please
Well I ovulated yesterday cd16!! Clomid has definitely helped my ovulation I just hope I get a bfp