Pink swayers' December thread

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

I can't figure out what's going on with my temperature. Anyone here ever get an ovulation dip? My temp keeps going down and down - that's never happened to me before O - I hope this means O's about to happen!

DH and I had another attempt last night. I still have tons of EWCM, cramps and cervix is SHOW. I'm really praying I get that +OPK today. I used an ic with FMU, but it was negative. I'm going to hold my pee all morning and take a better test around 1. :fx:

After all my talk about skipping rephresh this attempt, I'm actually considering adding it back in. I used 1/2 tube 2 nights ago a few hours before dtd because we hadn't finished our FR plan. Now, 2 days later, I'm thinking of using another fingerful to top up what's in there. It's just that I have sooooo much ewcm and even when I take both zyrtec and benedryl it doesn't seem to touch it, so I'm worried with that and without 7 days of frequent release my chances of a boy are still quite high. What do all think?

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I always get a dip at O, see my chart.

With my first two boys, I had so much EWCM that when O would arrive or be emment, it would feel like I started my AF and I would go check my panties to make sure. It would be globs of EWCM gross! With our last two boys, still had EWCM, but no where like with the first two. Now even before swaying, like almost nothing when is comes to EWCM, so I am hoping this will help me get my girl. I use Benedryl and this is the first cycle I tried RePhresh just to make sure it is gone, so all this being said, I definitely think EWCM got me my boys. I might not use as much RePhresh or Replens next cycle if I am not pregger, but I do think I will still use it because I have to get rid of the EWCM even if it is just in my head that it is even there LOL!!!

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Originally Posted by Out of the Blue

Also, I was (and have been) getting cramps after DTD (way before and continuing through O time), almost like the sperm were up there, reporting for duty and having a party while wating for the egg...Felt like there was a lot of debauchery goin' on up in there a few hrs after DTD.

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Originally Posted by auroara78

Mocha, if the Rephresh feels right because of the EWCM I'd say do it...i am of the opinion that tons and tons of EWCM sways boy, but that may be because I used to be an EWCM factory queeen...and well....I have boys :)

Jamie, re: emotions and accepting them, I feel the same way. When I first came on IG and read all the posts about really being disappointed with having a boy, or mothers who could not imagine how they'd ever bond with their sons, it raised all sorts of emotions in me and I became very protective of my sons and the idea of mothering them, and that led me to this weird stance that while I still wanted a girl, I'd never regret another boy if I had him. I don't know why reading those posts struck such a raw nerve in me (everyone has a right to her emotions, and who I am to judge how they feel about their children?) but it just really disturbed me, and it made me lean the opposite. I DID experience sadness that DS2 was indeed a boy, but reading those very sad negative posts about raising boys on IG brought the Mama Bear out in me and I had convinced myself that another boy would be fine, just great. That I just wanted a 3rd child.

Well...now I've come to the conclusion that while I would definitely love another boy, I would BE sad. It would be a dream lost if I did not get a little girl, and get to experience that. It is really hard admitting that to myself, because I have this weird pride issue with my boys. I love them to pieces, as I'm sure we all love our boys to pieces....but it would beyond amazing to have a daughter!

Lemon, you did do a lot of DTDing but a lot of rephresh too! I think if you got pregnant, it could very well be a girl. Is it new moon where you are at? It's not new moon in Virginia until Christmas Eve at 11:30 ish pm.

Rainbowflower, did you not get any attempts at all in this cycle?

Amari, are you out there, lurking? Back from Mexico yet?

Jen, the 2WW is maddening! I always feel liek time gets slowed down while in it! Hehe!

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I so agree with you auroara, I too had the same feeling when I read all the negative posts on IG on gender disappointment. I could never feel that way about another boy. It too made me more vigilant in making my boys know how much I love and wanted each and every one of them. Like you say, I will be sad that my girl dream is over, but so happy for another baby in my life. I think I am baby addicted to tell you the truth LOL!!!

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Originally Posted by lemon2012

PS: does anyone feel pressure in their butt,...(sorry if tmi but I figure this is the place to ask!) or actually feel and see if it is swollen down there?
I am just wondering if there is something wrong with me. I get wicked o pains as well, the last thing I want to do is have sex.

Thanks everyone!
The moon is new too:)

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Yes, I feel that pressure when I O. I wondered if it was normal or not. I have severe abdominal pains as well, so much that I don't want to DTD. Baby making just should not be that painful LOL!!!

Well, would you all care to look at my chart (siggy)? I am not sure if I Oed when it said I did or not. Yesterday, I had what I think could be an implantation dip, but according to my chart that would just be 4DPO and isn't that too early?

kraizydaizy - it's possible you can have an implantation dip as early as 3 dpo, so that could be what it was!

So, I ended up using the rephresh - just a finger full. I'm not going to bring it with me on my trip, so that will be the last time I use it this cycle. I just don't want to have regrets that I didn't do enough this cycle, and this ewcm is out of control, so I feel like I need to do a few more swaying tactics than I planned. Hopefully it won't stop me from getting my BFP. We definitely won't JAD - I'll just let myself fall asleep after dtd. I may not use the antihistamines as well tonight - well, maybe just the zyrtec (I'll see how much ewcm I have by suppertime, when I normally take it) but definitely not both that and benedryl.

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Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy

Well, would you all care to look at my chart (siggy)? I am not sure if I Oed when it said I did or not. Yesterday, I had what I think could be an implantation dip, but according to my chart that would just be 4DPO and isn't that too early?

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It looks like you've got this 4dpo dip in quite a few of your charts. I have the same type of dip most cycles at 2-3 dpo. :fx: that this is an imp dip for you!!! :cheer:

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Originally Posted by rainbowflower

is your DH releasing on the alternate days?
the OPKs are unlikely to be wrong, but perhaps you OV a bit later after the pos OPK than most? or maybe it's just bad luck that you haven't had a BFP yet. temping would tell you for sure when you OV

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Yes he releasing the alternative days,yeah i cant temp i have to be up and ready for battle with my youngest and i really cant be bothered,and im thinking its either later or even before the +opk but normally after 2 days of +opks i get o pains so who knows?

I just did my OPK, and it was much darker than yesterday, but still not +. I even wasted a digi just to make sure it was negative, and got an empty circle :(. I still think O is close, though. I have a feeling my surge will come overnight or tomorrow. I'll be traveling during my normal testing time tomorrow so I'll do a test with FMU then either try to test at the airport before our flight, or when we get to MIL's house around suppertime.

DH is working from home today so we sneaked in an extra BD session this afternoon. We'll dtd again tonight, then hopefully find a place to dtd at MIL's house tomorrow night.

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

kraizydaizy - it's possible you can have an implantation dip as early as 3 dpo, so that could be what it was!

So, I ended up using the rephresh - just a finger full. I'm not going to bring it with me on my trip, so that will be the last time I use it this cycle. I just don't want to have regrets that I didn't do enough this cycle, and this ewcm is out of control, so I feel like I need to do a few more swaying tactics than I planned. Hopefully it won't stop me from getting my BFP. We definitely won't JAD - I'll just let myself fall asleep after dtd. I may not use the antihistamines as well tonight - well, maybe just the zyrtec (I'll see how much ewcm I have by suppertime, when I normally take it) but definitely not both that and benedryl.

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I did not know that Mochagirl. I have my fingers crossed it is an implantation dip.

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Originally Posted by Out of the Blue

It looks like you've got this 4dpo dip in quite a few of your charts. I have the same type of dip most cycles at 2-3 dpo. :fx: that this is an imp dip for you!!! :cheer:

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Outoftheblue, since I have had many previous dips like this, more than likely it's just like the previous ones I think? Surely I have not been getting to the implantation all these months and then it not sticking?

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Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy

Outoftheblue, since I have had many previous dips like this, more than likely it's just like the previous ones I think? Surely I have not been getting to the implantation all these months and then it not sticking?

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That was the same exact ? I was asking myself yesterday when I saw my dip in all my charts but In my case, I don't think it was an imp dip w/my bean not sticking b/c I wasn't TTC on those cycles and we were careful. I'm thinking it's probably just a natural dip in our cycle but :fx: still for you. Isn't the 2ww just maddening!?! I'm either 6, 7 or 8 dpo today so we're close!

progesterone levels do drop after a few days - that looks like a normal chart shape to me
it hasn't dropped below coverline and it's too early to be an implantation dip - that normally happens at 7 or 8dpo, but can be 5dpo at earliest
generally the "shape" of a chart during the 2ww gives no clues as to what is happening in relation to conception

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Originally Posted by rainbowflower

progesterone levels do drop after a few days - that looks like a normal chart shape to me
it hasn't dropped below coverline and it's too early to be an implantation dip - that normally happens at 7 or 8dpo, but can be 5dpo at earliest
generally the "shape" of a chart during the 2ww gives no clues as to what is happening in relation to conception

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Thanks for the information rainbowflower. I really appreciate it!!!! I keep trying to dissect each and every twinge and temp I get LOL! It is crazy trying to figure it all out! I hope my temps stay high cause that means you are more likely pregnant right?

no problem ;) I used to analyse every single new temp/sign when I started temping too :)

my OPK seems to be starting to get darker!! not sure how long it will take to get a proper positive, in the past it has varied from 2 days to 5 days... but I was taking vitex and BF less this cycle so maybe it'll be on the shorter side of things

Yay, rainbow! My OPKs have been almost the same for days now - dark enough that I think O is imminent, but not dark enough to be +. It's getting veeeery frustrating. To confuse things more, I had two ICs that looked *almost* positive yesterday. My cervix is still SHOW and as far as I can tell I still have EWCM.

My temp's gone up a little today - not enough to be a spike since it's still below my usual coverline, but enough to be noticeable after that dip I had the last 2 days. If it keeps climbing, I wonder if FF will give me crosshairs again without a +OPK?

how far apart did you test? it could be that the peak of the surge happens between the two
for me, I usually OV when my temp rises back up from the pre-OV dip (i.e. not the initial temp rise back up to normal pre-OV levels, but the day of the second rise)

I've been testing constantly the past couple of days - probably once every 3-4 hours, but I only use the good tests in the early afternoon. I have two different types of ICs - both looked almost positive last night but are far fainter this morning (maybe because I used FMU, which isn't recommended). I also took a First Response test today at the same time as the IC, and it's definitely darker than yesterday's 2pm test. Is it possible the ICs and the FR are detecting different parts of the surge? I have ONE digi left, which I'm saving to use later today - probably at the airport.

Hey all,

DH and I DTD last night, though I think now we should wait closer to O, oh well, he wanted to and I didn't want to turn him down to make him supsicous...lol....so we've had sex this week twice already (that's a lot for my poor hubs, LOL) on Sunday and then last night right when it became Thursday (just past 12 am) so far that was 7 days & 4 days out from O, I doubt anything will come of that DTDing...the plan is to pin him down for the 23rd and 24th. Since I O on Christmas Day itself, I don't want to BD on the 25th after we get home from Stafford because he'll prob be too tired...so we gotta do it Christmas Eve or Christmas morning, but Christmas morning can be tough...so hoping for the 23rd and 24th, and I may use 1/2 appliator or a fingerful of represh...still on the fence...I am trying to go with my gut feeling!

These next few days are going to be crazy gettin ready for Christmas!

Question about Zyrtec:

I am starting to produce some nice EWCM (just what I wanted for Christmas....LOL)

For our failed attempt in Oct i used Zyrtec 2 hrs before we attempted to BD that it dried me up sooo much that DH couldn't even get it going and because his sex drive is so low already, he lost his way as it were, and we couldn't even have sex! I keep reading about how Zyrtec is great and may be better for a sway than rephresh, so my question is:

if we BD, could I right afterward take zyrtec and it would it work in time or do I really need to take it before BD'ing to have effect? Like I said, the last thing I want is to be so dry he can't even do anything...that would definitely result in a BFN, hehe.

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Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy

I hope my temps stay high cause that means you are more likely pregnant right?

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If they stay up for 15+ days, I think you're in business :cool: but you'll probably get a +HPT before then...

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

If it keeps climbing, I wonder if FF will give me crosshairs again without a +OPK?

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If so, you're totally covered BD-wise :cool: :agree:

Have you left yet? Have a safe trip there!

Auroara, I think that's great that you got another BD in! I hope you got that jersey for DH b/c maybe that'll make him rally if he knows it's coming (but only if he'll BD w/you, lol!)...

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Originally Posted by auroara78

I am starting to produce some nice EWCM (just what I wanted for Christmas....LOL)

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As far as Zyrtec goes, I’m not sure and have never included it in my sway. I thought I heard that it takes about 2 hrs to kick in and I don’t think it would have much affect if you took it after BD.

Anyone else have any Zyrtec advice for Auroara???

Aurora~ I Don't know if it would make a difference before or after but what about adding a little sylk- its supposed to sway girl and some think it helps you get preggo. You only need like a drop. DH and I tried it for fun used too much it was hysterical....

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Originally Posted by HopeandDreamG

Aurora~ I Don't know if it would make a difference before or after but what about adding a little sylk- its supposed to sway girl and some think it helps you get preggo. You only need like a drop. DH and I tried it for fun used too much it was hysterical....

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I can only imagine! Hehh, well problem with sylk I'd have to order it and it won't be in time for my BD'ing!

the thing with my husband is if i change one tiny little thing, his liabdio goes out the window! He's got a tempermental peter, what can I say? :bigsmile:

I'm trying to make this the best sway i can without scaring away my hubs....i just hope we can get two more attempts in before sunday, but that'd make 4 times we'd BD in a week, and that's a lot for him....

and about the jersey....hmmm, still need to find one...sigh

This TWW wait is terrible, but at least I have all this Christmas stuff to do LOL!! I had a big temp dip today, which went below coverline, is that bad?

Hi everyone I hope this is my last af until I get a bfp at the end of Jan!!!! PLEASE!!!!!! I will be due to O on the 9th of jan, I hope that everyone gets their BFP !!

Hey ladies - I made it to Nova Scotia. Our trip went as smoothly as a trip with 3 kids under 6 can go, though our flight was delayed about an hour. When we went to leave our house this morning we discovered our van had been broken into. Luckily we have nothing worth stealing, so they only took a parking pass for the university dh works at and our book full of DVDs. I'm a little annoyed about the DVDs - there were probably about 40 in there, and were pretty much all the kids' DVDs we own.

Anyway, still no +OPK. I took one at the airport around 12:30, and it was dark, but not +. So...somehow dh and I need to dtd tonight. So far, the kids are not going to sleep - it's 1.5 hours past ds's bedtime and he's awake and raring to go. I have a bad feeling he's going to end up sleeping in bed with us tonight, which is going to make dtd pretty much impossible. Not sure what to do. If O doesn't come for 3 more days, which is possible, we NEED to get more attempts in. Aaaahhhhh! I'm also stressed about food now. We had meat lasagna for supper, and though I tried to take the tiniest portion possible I can't help but panic about all the protein and sodium I'm eating. It's only going to get worse as the days go by too. PLEASE come soon, O!

HI everyone,
Not sure how much input I have to help anyone.
Zyrtez, is it the same as Benedryl? reactine?

I guess I only relied on rephresh and I have no idea how much I used...other than in total over the course of a week
I do think I washed it all away....but that is because of previous attempts with it while also dtd shallow. This month we dtd full on and on O day.,....twice!
Please tell me that timing does not matter!!!!!!!!!!!
I had started to give up on the diet but now I really cannot handle it.
Olives, bread, cheese.....I ate it all for dinner!
What is done is done I guess!
My next o is the middle of January and right now that seems a long way away.
I do not want to try again next month but I am also afraid of being preg and losing my dream girl as so many of you have said. However, at the same time, I feel nervous about my sway. I think that is normal though.

It is funny bc DS 2 was an oops baby and he was a one shot two day cut off while breastfeeding...we always said he should have been a girl. So, really, there is no guarantee!

Mocha...yeah, you got there safely!
I would see if you can try in the early am....?????
At this point a little lasagna and sodium cannot change your entire environment and you have so many other things swaying!
So, I gather the bathrooms on the plane were too small??? lol!
Besides, I always wake up nightly with one kid or the other!!!! I doubt in a new surrounding they will sleep all night long and if they do.....hmmm, quietly,...oh dear, I cannot believe I am writing this. lol! You do what you have to do!!!

KD, the 2 ww will fly by once Christmas and more activities hit!
I cannot even remember what dpo I am !

pinkin2011.....Did you just get af? Or, are you planning on your jan attempts???

auroara....it sounds like you have some challenges.
I am actually surprised by DH. He is usually only active if I engage in it and he could take it or leave it. He has done so well just coming up for the challenge! I am not sure how he will feel about me posting this...lol!

Hope...I hope you are looking forward to Christmas and your Jan attempt!!

Merry Christmas everyone in a few days!
GOOD LUCK!

Lemon - Reactine is the same as Zyrtec. As far as I can tell, we don't have Zyrtec here in Canada, but the active ingredient in reactine is the same - cetrizine. Benedryl is something different, and you can actually take it at the same time as reactine, but be aware it will knock you out. I only take it an hour before BD at most because I can't stay awake longer than that once I take it. Reactine is non-drowsy and lasts 24 hours.

And no, we didn't join the mile-high club :rofl:. I still have no idea how we'll dtd, but we'll try our best to find a way. Early morning doesn't work because our boys are early birds - ds3 often wakes up at 5:30!

Ok, I just went to check my cervix for the first time in many hours, and it seems to be getting firmer and lower, though it's still quite open. My cm seems to be almost creamy too. I did find one glob of ewcm way up high that had a teeny, tiny streak of red blood in it - ovulation spotting??? I'm starting to get hopeful that maybe I O'd today!!! I never did get that +OPK, but one of the ICs I took last night was almost positive. Maybe I surged overnight? Oh please, please let this be the case! I guess tomorrow's temperature will tell, but I suppose we'd better dtd just in case....

Hi Lemon, Yes I just got af and our first real attempt will be in jan around the 9th I think. I am sticking pretty well to the diet I have been sick so that helps I guess!! I am using Rephresh every 3 days after af and I am taking Vitex and Saw Palmetto.. D/H started his releasing today TWICE today and will be once or twice everyday until I get my + opk I am going to just have one attempt but I want d/h to of released twice in 24hrs before our attempt.. Then a j and d I will do. will see how I go!!

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Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy

This TWW wait is terrible, but at least I have all this Christmas stuff to do LOL!! I had a big temp dip today, which went below coverline, is that bad?

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Ohhhh...That dip looks like it could be an imp dip! I probably already asked you but I'm a scatter-brain lately...when are you planning on testing?? If it is an imp dip, I think you could see something + as soon as 24-48 hrs after this but it would depend on how sensitive the test is. I'm really excited to watch your chart to see what happens!!! :luck: :pinksperm: :luck:

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Originally Posted by pinkin2011

Hi Lemon, Yes I just got af and our first real attempt will be in jan around the 9th I think. I am sticking pretty well to the diet I have been sick so that helps I guess!! I am using Rephresh every 3 days after af and I am taking Vitex and Saw Palmetto.. D/H started his releasing today TWICE today and will be once or twice everyday until I get my + opk I am going to just have one attempt but I want d/h to of released twice in 24hrs before our attempt.. Then a j and d I will do. will see how I go!!

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Sounds like a super plan, Pink!!!

I'm really going crazy here. My cervix is still WIDE open this morning (though relatively low and firmer), but my OPKs seem to be getting lighter (with FMU, anyway). I'll test again at mid-day and hope for a better result. My temp was down this morning or I might still be hopeful I O'd yesterday. However, I'm sleeping in a cold room here, so the temps may be off because of that. We're also dealing with a slight time difference. The first time I took my temp was at 5am local time, but only 4am back home - it was 35.83, lower than ever before - usually I'm over 36! But then I started thinking maybe I'd been sleeping with my mouth open and that combined with the cold air made it unnaturally low, so I temped again at about 7:30am local time, or 6:30 at home, and it was 36.23, which is right in line with my normal pre-O temps, so that's the one I used on my chart.

Anyway, we did manage an attempt last night. Once the kids finally passed out, around 10pm, they were out like lights, so we managed a quiet session in the room with them :oops:. I was really hoping that would be the last attempt, but if I don't get that OPK today we'll need to do it again tonight. I'm also starting to worry that I didn't bring the rephresh with me and now we've been dtd for days and I'm worried my ph is getting too high. I don't know if it merits a trip in the newly fallen snow with no snow tires (in a VERY hilly city) to a store to try to find some, or if I'm ok just downing tons of the CL I secretly packed. Thoughts? I'm also taking Baby Aspirin, which should lower my ph a bit.

Glad you all made it to N.S. safely, Mocha. Were you able to BD last night or this a.m.? I just saw your chart and I'm thinking travel delayed your O maybe (?) so you'll probably do it today :luck: :fingers: I'm hope you're feeling okay as I know you've been down about the lack of control over food, BD locations/times, etc. :HH: I'm sending you TONS and TONS of O VIBES!!!

Edited to say: we must have been posting at the same time, MJ!

Okay, 1st off I'm kind of jealous, of the snow, Mocha! I'm usually a "palm trees and sand" kind of girl but for Christmas time, I love it. We'll not be getting ANY snow where I am :(

:agree: Glad you got a BD session in!!! Really try to get another in today if you can!

RepHresh-wise, when was the last time you used it? If you choose not to get more, you could always kind of "scoop out" the EWCM before BD as that would help some. Since I've never used CL or aspirine, I'm not sure...Anything I'm not including goes right in one ear and out the other for me :oops: Also as you've said before, the RepHresh may make it too difficult for you to get preg, especially if you're not BD at the right time.

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Originally Posted by lemon2012

Please tell me that timing does not matter!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lemon, IMO timing does not matter for gender, only for getting preggers :wink: Don't worry, girl!!!

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Originally Posted by lemon2012

So, I gather the bathrooms on the plane were too small??? lol!

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Lol! :)

Auroara....Did you get that jersey for DH yet??? :)