UK SMOG Wannabes June

Inglewood my dream job is Richard attibrough's research assistant. Sigh - so different from my real life job. I wanted to be a doctor once (still do) but don't like gore. I would love the research side of things like genetics and auto-immune conditions but in a lab without the gore. I have worked in medical research and labs - I loved it but alas no money in it. Toss up between great job and no money or not so great job but living in comfort. My ethics have slipped since I left uni and it does make me sad. But as madonna says 'we are living in a material world' can't live off my ego alone.

It's 0356am...girls fed...back to bed (hopefully) :)

Hope The girls slept well for you, I was thinking about the colic situation thing your suffering with last night I really hope it improves soon !! Have the docs given you anything for reflux as well as colic, when the girls are distressed with the discomfort do they become more rigid almost stretch out like they are trying to arch their backs or is it knees in to the tummy? I had an awful first few weeks with ds 3 who I initially thought had colic but it was reflux !

I'm sure you have already thought of all this and I'm a bit late to the story here but just thought I'd ask ?!

What about a completely different brand of milk altogether ?

Hope it gets better soon for you and themxxx

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Originally Posted by threelittlemenandcounting

Hope The girls slept well for you, I was thinking about the colic situation thing your suffering with last night I really hope it improves soon !! Have the docs given you anything for reflux as well as colic, when the girls are distressed with the discomfort do they become more rigid almost stretch out like they are trying to arch their backs or is it knees in to the tummy? I had an awful first few weeks with ds 3 who I initially thought had colic but it was reflux !

I'm sure you have already thought of all this and I'm a bit late to the story here but just thought I'd ask ?!

What about a completely different brand of milk altogether ?

Hope it gets better soon for you and themxxx

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Hi, that's exactly it!! they stretch out when sore and go rigid, like trying to arch their backs! They vomit quite alot too. Ds2 had reflux and had gaviscon sachets, but with the comfort milk I can't use it as it makes it too thick. They are still unsettled alot of the time, but better since starting comfort milk. The HV told me to try them back on regular aptamil at 4mths, but wondering should either keep them on it? or try cow and gate and try the gaviscon powders (hear alot of good comments from mums about C&G). My friend who is a MW said aptamil traditionally was used for under weight and premmie's as it makes them put on alot of weight. That is quite true my boys were bruisers and my nephew, on aptamil. She also said with them being a bit early (4wks) their digestive system is immature, being a mth behind and that's why they are so unsettled at feeding. Gave up with colief drops as none of the colic meds helped (so dh convinced not colic, told him that goes for nothing) so not sure what to do, the boys were so easy to feed, even with ds2's reflux!

Thanks for thinking of us xx

Inglewood, if they are arching their backs i really think you should try and push for the ranitidene. It is so unfair for them (and you) to be in pain :( Trouble is docs are so hesitant for no justified reason. When ds2 was 3 months i literally marched down to the docs and shouted my baby needs ranitidene. They were a bit shocked and like ok mrs ?? we'll try it. I never looked back. If you switch to normal aptamil and gaviscon i have a feeling the problem will go away for a couple of days and then come back again. The aptamil brand though is definitely the best for colic/reflux as it is much less rich than others and is more easily digested. Oh i really hope things improve soon. X

Just to add, if it is knees to tummy then that is an immature digestive problem down below. Mine were both on domperidone for that (as well as the ranitidene for the asophagus problem). Oh it was hell before i got them properly diagnosed and treated. Why do they make babies suffer when no other age group has to?!

Inglewood it def sounds like reflux to me rather than colic, recently I aptamil is not as good as it used to ve and I've known quite a few unsettled babies on it, I'd try the gp and get real meds but def try a completely diff brand of milk altogether hope you have a good day xx

Hi everyone,

Charlie ~ Sorry the counselling hasn't been very helpful, but great to hear the antidepressants are helping - feeling in control of your emotions is half the battle I think! Your home birth sounds lovely, I am so pleased I got to experience it!

Inglewood ~ sounds like you are getting some good advice about the girls feeding, are they feeding any better? Love the pic on FB, they are really growing up!

LM ~ Hi, lovely to hear from you!

TLM ~ Hope your DD had a lovely bday :)

Indigo ~ I would defo recommend a home birth :)

I have always wanted a HB even with DS1, but DH was more on the cautious side and said lets have him at hosp and if all goes well we'll have our 2nd at home. DS1 was a week late and I had a wonderful birth and would have been prefect for me to have him at home so wish I had stuck to my guns!
I was two weeks late with DS2 and DS3 so had to be induced - was very upset with both as I desp wanted to have them at home and go into natural labour. So come DS4 I didn't get my hopes up at all and just resigned myself to the fact that I would probably be induced again. So I am STILL in shock that he arrived at home and I eventually got my long awaited home birth :)
I had planned to get organised on Sunday for my induction so no bags packed etc. I had a second sweep on the Friday but didn't think it would do anything! I woke at 5.30am on Sunday morning with twinges but by 7am I thought they were getting more regular, by 8am I was in the bath and they were between 5 and 10 mims apart. I got the boys breakfast and by 9am they were very regular and strong so I woke DH who had slept downstairs as he had been snoring! I said get up as we need to clean up I'm in labour!! I was hoovering and having full on contractions by the point - what a sight..lol!! I wanted the house tidy for when the MW's turned up, but I then realised I had forgot to ring the MW with all the tidying up! I told the boys the baby would be here soon and they had to be really good boys whilst I got baby out :)
I called the MW and they arrived at 10.30 am and my contractions were every 3 mins by this point.
Baby was born at 11.57am and it was a wonderful experience. The boys were playing outside (luckily the weather was nice) whilst I was labouring in the playroom. When I reached the third stage they went into the front room to watch a DVD, as soon a baby arrived they all came in and said hello before DH cut the cord. I was so proud of them for being so well behaved and loved the fact that they got to see baby when he had arrived, I'm hoping that will a memory that stays with them.
Overall it was a perfect experience and exactly as I would of wanted it.
I did struggle to deliver the placenta and it was very painful and it took nearly an hour so that held things up abit - me holding baby etc, I was in agony so couldn't hold him straight the way! But DH took baby and put him on his chest skin to skin and cooked the boys pizza for lunch :) The MW's were laughing as DH was serving pizza and holding a newborn baby! :)
By 2pm I had had a bath and was cuddled up with baby and the boys, completely in shock that he had arrived and he had arrived at home :) I feel very lucky to have experienced such a special birth as its my last and even luckier that my boys big and small were part of it all :)
I couldn't stop smiling on Monday as I was holding my baby and WASN'T at hosp being induced!!!!

So I'm thumbs up for home births :)

Baby is doing well, he's a hungry boy so feeling every 2-3 hrs but I'm sure he will begin to settle down in the next few days. Not getting loads of sleep so completely shattered but enjoying the newborn bit :) The boys love him so much.
We had lunch at John Lewis yesterday ( a tradition of ours, family outing to JL with new arrival :)) so feeling very tired today as we were out all day. Been a busy week and DH back at work on Monday so having a quite day at home tomorrow. DS1 not too well so skipping swimming lessons etc and chilling at home.
Just ordered my food packs online ready for the diet to start on Monday!! I can't wait to lose the weight, I still look pg at the mo!!
I did the school run today and realised how much I hadn't missed it or the people..lol! I love dropping the boys off but I can't be doing with all the other rubbish!

Ok better stop waffling and try to get some sleep! Night all xxx

P.s is the FB group defo private as it appears on my newsfeed???

Oh babymad, what a wonderful experience for you and well deserved after all you have been through!! You sound very content and i feel quite tearful (with happiness obviously) about that. You made me laugh when you said you forgot to call the mw! so glad they got to you on time and the image on my mind of dh cooking pizza and holding your tiny little man is so cute! Well done again to you and im glad you never have to suffer another pregnancy as i know you have a horrid time. Bubs will give you a great reason not to have to hang around and chat at the school gates for quite a while! X